Destiny General Discussion Thread

Tazzimus · 02-06-2017 1:02pm

jonnycivic wrote: »

I'll be on over the weekend I'll bring you through it, not around later until about 11 or 12 tonight.

I might not be as available as I thought this weekend. I've a comp that's on Saturday instead of Sunday like I thought.
I'll be on til around 12 anyway but I can have a stab solo and see how I go if no one else feels like running it

gimli2112 · 02-06-2017 1:10pm

What's so hard about the quest? I remember it being a mare with people screaming at each other tbh but now everyone's got swords and 400 LL is it not a breeze?

SolvableKnave · 02-06-2017 1:19pm

PetKing wrote: »

If someone would drag Knave's carcass through now we'd be laughing!!

jonnycivic wrote: »

Knave doesnt have a spindle???????

I'll say this to both of you:

I am living proof that you do not need a Spindle. 18 years been playing this game and still have not encountered anything my trusty 1K Stare coudn't handle.

PetKing wrote: »

If someone would drag Knave's carcass through now we'd be laughing!!

I also need to do OP quest line. I'm at the first code enter stage. :rolleyes:

Still have yet to get the Nechro. :rolleyes:

Basically, you name it, I don't have it.

EDIT: And yes, I Destiny. Before anyone throws that gem out there. And if you do, I refer you to the embedded gif.

Kimbot · 02-06-2017 1:21pm

SolvableKnave wrote: »

I'll say this to both of you:

I am living proof that you do not need a Spindle. 18 years been playing this game and still have not encountered anything my trusty 1K Stare coudn't handle.

I also need to do OP quest line. I'm at the first code enter stage. :rolleyes:

Still have yet to get the Nechro. :rolleyes:

Basically, you name it, I don't have it.

Yeah but you have to reload your 1K :P

SolvableKnave · 02-06-2017 1:24pm

jonnycivic wrote: »

Yeah but you have to reload your 1K :P

On Goggleballs? Meh. I'm either holding gaze for damage phase or jumping out soon after to swap gaze.

Kimbot · 02-06-2017 1:24pm

SolvableKnave wrote: »

On Goggleballs? Meh. I'm either holding gaze for damage phase or jumping out soon after to swap gaze.

Warpriest says hello :P

SolvableKnave · 02-06-2017 1:34pm

jonnycivic wrote: »

Warpriest says hello :P

And he's usually tethered, which can? mess with Spindles no reload perk.

PetKing · 02-06-2017 1:41pm

SolvableKnave wrote:

Still have yet to get the Nechro.

Same.

jonnycivic wrote:

Yeah but you have to reload your 1K

I generally have to reload the Spindle because of enthusiastic jostling!! :P

Generic Dreadhead · 02-06-2017 1:52pm

jonnycivic wrote: »

Warpriest says hello :P

Jade Rabbit says hello right back :P

SolvableKnave · 02-06-2017 1:52pm

PetKing wrote: »

I generally have to reload the Spindle because of enthusiastic jostling!! :P

You'll go blind if you do it too often.

Dxvdbl · 02-06-2017 2:08pm

Can someone recommend weapons for the vault of glass raid? Last night was a disaster due to DPS, fairly limited atm to weapons like gally and Super Good Advice, any decent primaries myself and Linksenn could look into picking up to make this easier?

Kimbot · 02-06-2017 2:12pm

Dxvdbl wrote: »

Can someone recommend weapons for the vault of glass raid? Last night was a disaster due to DPS, fairly limited atm to weapons like gally and Super Good Advice, any decent primaries myself and Linksenn could look into picking up to make this easier?

THere isnt really too much that would do any good but if your up for a bit of grinding to get them then do the Scout Weekly bounty for PvP and hope for a burning eye to drop. Its a really good gun, was the one I was running last night with ye and has explosive rounds so helps with the oracles etc.

I was watching the stream last night and tbh it wasn't really DPS getting you guys as mush as it was bad luck with the templar teleporting.

SolvableKnave · 02-06-2017 2:15pm

Dxvdbl wrote: »

Can someone recommend weapons for the vault of glass raid? Last night was a disaster due to DPS, fairly limited atm to weapons like gally and Super Good Advice, any decent primaries myself and Linksenn could look into picking up to make this easier?

For everything up to Atheon, personally, a good Scout Rifle for your primary, and if it has Firefly, even better for those crit kills.

For Atheon, Ideally you want a raid primary to help with oracles, but a good sniper (1K Stare) or heavy (SGA) will make up for the lack of raid weapon.

Secondary, up to Templar, a nice void shotty or void fusion to help take down the minotaurs shields.

For Templar himself, it's a choice between shotty for his detain bubble, or sniper when you run out of heavy on you Gjally.

Your Heavy should be Gjally really, then maybe SGA if you DON'T get a raid primary from Templar.

PetKing · 02-06-2017 2:26pm

Dxvdbl wrote:

Can someone recommend weapons for the vault of glass raid? Last night was a disaster due to DPS, fairly limited atm to weapons like gally and Super Good Advice, any decent primaries myself and Linksenn could look into picking up to make this easier?

A good scout rifle is essential. And as Knave says, void shotgun and sniper. Gally and SGA should be fine for heavy.

gimli2112 · 02-06-2017 2:38pm

There's really no one gun you must have, there's always some reasonable alternative. It's not like back in the day where to do end game stuff for PvE "Level 30 and GH required" or for a very small window if you didn't have the Vex you were just goo on a crucible wall.

Dxvdbl · 02-06-2017 3:18pm

The burning eye looks amazing, i did that scout bounty and never got one. I have a thousand yard stare and a party crasher that i can use for secondary, SGA and Gally for heavy so really i'm just missing a decent primary, i was stuck using a hawksaw last night which isnt exactly ideal.

Kimbot · 02-06-2017 3:23pm

Dxvdbl wrote: »

The burning eye looks amazing, i did that scout bounty and never got one. I have a thousand yard stare and a party crasher that i can use for secondary, SGA and Gally for heavy so really i'm just missing a decent primary, i was stuck using a hawksaw last night which isnt exactly ideal.

Yeah run the bounty on each of your 3 characters every week for the burning eye, its the trials year 2 gun

The hawksaw is grand, as I said it wasnt lack of DPS killing you rather than just the templar getting his transport in

SolvableKnave · 02-06-2017 3:29pm

Dxvdbl wrote: »

The burning eye looks amazing, i did that scout bounty and never got one. I have a thousand yard stare and a party crasher that i can use for secondary, SGA and Gally for heavy so really i'm just missing a decent primary, i was stuck using a hawksaw last night which isnt exactly ideal.

Have a look at FWC this week, if you are able to buy from them. Their SR(The Wounded) this week has Explosive Rounds / Perfect Balance / Hidden Hand. Not a bad roll at all.

Had a look through the others, and , Faction wise, FWC is the best option. Again, if you are able to buy and have the funds to do so.

Dxvdbl · 02-06-2017 3:30pm

I'll give a run through on my hunter so tonight and see if i can get a lucky drop. I'm guessing that raid is on the back burner for a while after the disaster that was last night :P

Kimbot · 02-06-2017 3:30pm

SolvableKnave wrote: »

Have a look at FWC this week, if you are able to buy from them. Their SR(The Wounded) this week has Explosive Rounds / Perfect Balance / Hidden Hand. Not a bad roll at all.

Had a look through the others, and , Faction wise, FWC is the best option. Again, if you are able to buy and have the funds to do so.

That would be a really good scout actually

Generic Dreadhead · 02-06-2017 3:33pm

Dxvdbl wrote: »

I'll give a run through on my hunter so tonight and see if i can get a lucky drop. I'm guessing that raid is on the back burner for a while after the disaster that was last night :P

The Chaos Dogma Scout Rifle form Wrath of the Machine Raid is one of the best in the game imho, for general PvE and Boss DPS
Part of the reason I suggested doing that raid instead tbh.
Perhaps Hard Mode was a bit of a reach though and we should have done Normal mode 1st

For context, I rarely unequip the (legendary) Chaos Dogma nowadays for general PvE activities. It's very like the Jade Rabbit in a lot of ways and it's High Impact
I don't really but into this whole "Not maximum impact tier" sthick these lads do be recommending at all :P

jonnycivic wrote: »

I was watching the stream last night and tbh it wasn't really DPS getting you guys as mush as it was bad luck with the templar teleporting.

Ehhhhhhh.... debatable
As much as it would be easy to put it all down to that and Optimus having issues, I was looking at the Templars health the whole time.

After me and Conovar put our ~16x Sleeper Rounds into his Tethered face, you would see the health bar go down like 40%, then we'd whittle away another 30% but taking 3 times as long, and by then he was just "f**k this" -> 4th/5th/ teleport & Huge Mobs

If we don't kill him faster, the survivability factor for Optimus and then us becomes an issue.

Kimbot · 02-06-2017 3:38pm

Generic Dreadhead wrote: »

Ehhhhhhh.... debatable

Well i watched 4/5 of the initial runs and that was your issue, you had him down to approx 1/4 health left when he teleported which is not bad at all with 3 lads that are new to it. Their primary shouldnt really matter because you'll use your heavy and sniper till the ammo runs out then take an ould heavy/special synth and go again.

Kimbot · 02-06-2017 3:39pm

Oh yeah may I also point out that 2 of the DPS lads need to throw their grenades either side of the pillar in front that should clear a good few ads.

Generic Dreadhead · 02-06-2017 3:43pm

jonnycivic wrote: »

Well i watched 4/5 of the initial runs and that was your issue, you had him down to approx 1/4 health left when he teleported which is not bad at all with 3 lads that are new to it. Their primary shouldnt really matter because you'll use your heavy and sniper till the ammo runs out then take an ould heavy/special synth and go again.

Nah, it did look and feel like that earlier. But as time progressed we realised the reason Optimus was dying so much was cause he was getting team shot by 40x mobs cause we were taking so long.

Any runs where we did not have all 5 of us with Full Secondary, Heavy and super was a f**king bust tbh. Should have just sat still for 5 mins instead. Then we'd get unlucky, the one time we would be ready and charged Optimus would have an issue after we'd used Supers / Heavies etc

As I said, I'd LOVE to say DPS wasn't an Issue. But it was. Plus, we were short on Bubbles/Tethers too. Just overall, not optimised really.

I don't think the Primary weapon is the DPS issue, nor the 1KYS, More so the lack of Sleeper tbh. Pity you can't trigger that quest in any guaranteed way

Actually, our 1st run was really, really good. Got to like 30% health fast. Pity we couldn't recapture that lightining in a bottle. We should have only done runs every 5 mins or so when fully charged.

Best bet ProjectUdyr would be just to lick your wounds and go do WotM start to finish on Normal mode and hope for some decent LL drops and a lovely Chaos Dogma off the final boss. Plus you can do the Monitors, get your Outbreak Prime quest and learn the raid.

Kimbot · 02-06-2017 3:46pm

Generic Dreadhead wrote: »

Nah, it did look and feel like that earlier. But as time progressed we realised the reason Optimus was dying so much was cause he was getting team shot by 40x mobs cause we were taking so long.

Any runs where we did not have all 5 of us with Full Secondary, Heavy and super was a f**king bust tbh. Should have just sat still for 5 mins instead. Then we'd get unlucky, the one time we would be ready and charged Optimus would have an issue after we'd used Supers / Heavies etc

As I said, I'd LOVE to say DPS wasn't an Issue. But it was. Plus, we were short on Bubbles/Tethers too. Just overall, not optimised really.

I don't think the Primary weapon is the DPS issue, nor the 1KYS, More so the lack of Sleeper tbh. Pity you can't trigger that quest in any guaranteed way

Well how about doing the templar in 2 stages then, take a couple of the higher lads with the DPS in and rinse to get 1 or 2 through to the next section then jump back in and do it again with the remainder then continue on. They will get drops from templar that will help out through the raid. Oh if your doing Wotm then do a monitor run on normal :P

sniper_samurai · 02-06-2017 3:49pm

Generic Dreadhead wrote: »

Best bet ProjectUdyr would be just to lick your wounds and go do WotM start to finish on Normal mode and hope for some decent LL drops and a lovely Chaos Dogma off the final boss. Plus you can do the Monitors, get your Outbreak Prime quest and learn the raid.

I'm looking to do this tonight, after iceninja, Yakuza and Tazzimus we still have 2 open spaces. Will be looking to start around 8-8.30.

Generic Dreadhead · 02-06-2017 3:49pm

jonnycivic wrote: »

Well how about doing the templar in 2 stages then, take a couple of the higher lads with the DPS in and rinse to get 1 or 2 through to the next section then jump back in and do it again with the remainder then continue on. They will get drops from templar that will help out through the raid. Oh if your doing Wotm then do a monitor run on normal :P

Yupppp, realising now that between last Night and Friday last week I may have bitten off more than I can chew with the Raid choices :pac:

Sure then when it is all going swimminlgy I'll suicide anyway :rolleyes:

(Experience & Loadout) > Light Level

sniper_samurai wrote: »

I'm looking to do this tonight, after iceninja, Yakuza and Tazzimus we still have 2 open spaces. Will be looking to start around 8-8.30.

Would you be willing to take the two lads along? If someone drops out, let me know. You may be very experience light though.

Kimbot · 02-06-2017 3:51pm

Generic Dreadhead wrote: »

Yupppp, realising now that between last Night and Friday last week I may have bitten off more than I can chew with the Raid choices :pac:

Sure then when it is all going swimminlgy I'll suicide anyway :rolleyes:

(Experience & Loadout) > Light Level

Im sure there will be enough of us on over the weekend to do that man, should take feck all time in fairness.

Generic Dreadhead · 02-06-2017 3:54pm

jonnycivic wrote: »

Im sure there will be enough of us on over the weekend to do that man, should take feck all time in fairness.

I have some serious notions about whats achievable until I go into a Raid and have some sense slapped back into me

sniper_samurai · 02-06-2017 3:54pm

Generic Dreadhead wrote: »

Yupppp, realising now that between last Night and Friday last week I may have bitten off more than I can chew with the Raid choices :pac:

Sure then when it is all going swimminlgy I'll suicide anyway :rolleyes:

(Experience & Loadout) > Light Level

Would you be willing to take the two lads along? If someone drops out, let me know. You may be very experience light though.

Should be fairly ok for WotM normal, we have 3 people who know the raid between Yakuza, iceninja and myself. Get them to friend me on psn.

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