Destiny General Discussion Thread

jcd5971

i love the grenade mods, nothing beats goading in an attacker when he has you low health only for him to see you eat your grenade and back to full health before ****ing him up

SeanHarty

PetKing wrote: »

Earned a bright engram at the start of an IB match earlier. That golden wing like symbol remained emblazoned on the screen for the rest of the game. Annoying glitch I haven't encountered before.

happened me as well, not great!

gimli2112

PetKing wrote: »

Earned a bright engram at the start of an IB match earlier. That golden wing like symbol remained emblazoned on the screen for the rest of the game. Annoying glitch I haven't encountered before.

I'd probably back out and take the loss rather than adding a few unnecessary points to my blood pressure.

Mitch Connor

jcd5971 wrote: »

i love the grenade mods, nothing beats goading in an attacker when he has you low health only for him to see you eat your grenade and back to full health before ****ing him up

or.... as I have done more than once - throw the grenade into the wall infront of myself, suiciding, cause I stopped the eating process a split second too soon.

I'm not a good player.

gimli2112

I haven't even tried to eat a grenade. There's too much going on with people shooting at me to consider such advanced tactics.

PetKing

gimli2112 wrote:

I haven't even tried to eat a grenade. There's too much going on with people shooting at me to consider such advanced tactics.

That twirling dodge reload as a Hunter while engaging an opponent makes me feel like a PvP god

Mitch Connor

Found this article very good:

https://kotaku.com/top-players-weigh-in-on-the-good-and-bad-of-destiny-2-p-1819364710

Datto, Triple, SirD and Mr. Fruit.

Mitch Connor

PetKing wrote: »

That twirling dodge reload as a Hunter while engaging an opponent makes me feel like a PvP god

i just find it to be an elaborate death animation when I use it.

Its actually very useful but its completely different to shadestep. I use it a lot to back out of long range engagements when I'm losing, whereas shadestep could be used more aggressively. Its good for peaking corners/gunfights then realising you're screwed but managing to get out of there.

SolvableKnave

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Found this article very good:

https://kotaku.com/top-players-weigh-in-on-the-good-and-bad-of-destiny-2-p-1819364710

Datto, Triple, SirD and Mr. Fruit.

After reading that, I have a slight uneasy fear growing in me that future decisions on PvP modes / playlists / team sizes / balancing will be taken with PC in mind only, or at least with PC being the 85% focus for the decisions.

Mitch Connor

SolvableKnave wrote: »

After reading that, I have a slight uneasy fear growing in me that future decisions on PvP modes / playlists / team sizes / balancing will be taken with PC in mind only, or at least with PC being the 85% focus for the decisions.

quite possibly. Team Size/Playlist may not be an issue from that respect, but they absolutely have to consider console and PC completely separate for gun balance, which I have to assume they are smart enough to do.

The article echoed my thoughts on 4vs4 and the weird middle ground of nothingness that Bungie have placed themselves in. Its not eSports/Comp, and also isn't the fun power fantasy that Destiny1 was.

jcd5971

6v6 control/clash make PvP great again.

dudeeile

jcd5971 wrote: »

6v6 control/clash make PvP great again.

I'd prefer if they made all the PvE stuff in 4's to be honest, it's the differing sizes that bugs me the most.

I do think we will see 6's back in PvP when a lot of casuals start dropping off.

Mitch Connor

dudeeile wrote: »

I'd prefer if they made all the PvE stuff in 4's to be honest, it's the differing sizes that bugs me the most.

I do think we will see 6's back in PvP when a lot of casuals start dropping off.

I think they should bring 6s back for QuickPlay and keep comp 4vs4.

I don't think 6s wouldn't work on any map in D2. It doesn't feel like 'Distant Shore' is any more spacious than the new D2 maps. If Shores of Time can work in D2, why can't 6s on that map work in D2?

Kimbot

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I think they should bring 6s back for QuickPlay and keep comp 4vs4.

I don't think 6s wouldn't work on any map in D2. It doesn't feel like 'Distant Shore' is any more spacious than the new D2 maps. If Shores of Time can work in D2, why can't 6s on that map work in D2?

There are a few maps that would be chaos in 6v6 tbh, I'm liking the 4v4 for the most part.

gimli2112

Most my favourite COD maps were smaller than D2 maps and worked with 6v6. Some of them were bedlam.
D2 maps would be fine for 6v6 I think.

Kimbot

gimli2112 wrote: »

Most my favourite COD maps were smaller than D2 maps and worked with 6v6. Some of them were bedlam.
D2 maps would be fine for 6v6 I think.

Rust been the worst for 6v6 in fairness :P

dudeeile

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I think they should bring 6s back for QuickPlay and keep comp 4vs4.

I don't think 6s wouldn't work on any map in D2. It doesn't feel like 'Distant Shore' is any more spacious than the new D2 maps. If Shores of Time can work in D2, why can't 6s on that map work in D2?

I'm sure someone on the other discussion site is already working on overlaying the two maps, the new version does seem smaller.

Would it be that hard to add a multiplier to maps to increase sizes to accommodate the extra players, nothing else would need change except maybe an extra power ammo brick or two.

gimli2112

jonnycivic wrote: »

Rust been the worst for 6v6 in fairness :P

God I loved Rust, probably because it hardly came up in the rotation but yeah Rust and Shipment would be two that would have you in a tizzy.

Mitch Connor

dudeeile wrote: »

I'm sure someone on the other discussion site is already working on overlaying the two maps, the new version does seem smaller.

Would it be that hard to add a multiplier to maps to increase sizes to accommodate the extra players, nothing else would need change except maybe an extra power ammo brick or two.

A multiplier to increase the physical size of the map?

I would imagine they would have to manually change the map and spacing to make them bigger.

I just don't think it is really needed.

I think Vostok, Dead Cliffs, Fortress, Midtown and Distant Shore, at least, are big enough for 6s. Especially if you think back to 6s on Anomaly or Cauldron for example.

Anomaly was only added to the 6s playlist late on in Destiny, was 3s before and frankly a ****fest when played in 6s.

Mitch Connor

AdamD wrote: »

Anomaly was only added to the 6s playlist late on in Destiny, was 3s before and frankly a ****fest when played in 6s.

I always enjoyed it to be honest.

SolvableKnave

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I always enjoyed it to be honest.

Have to agree. Spawning at A and running up to the stairs to lob a grenade or Nova on to B. Great fun.

Mitch Connor

SolvableKnave wrote: »

Have to agree. Spawning at A and running up to the stairs to lob a grenade or Nova on to B. Great fun.

Spawing at C, running to the opening across from the boxes, lobbing a grenade up onto the catwalk.

jcd5971

I seem to recall anomaly was hated by trials carriers etc, but loved by the less skilled of us.

Obviously in some ways the map lended itself to a more casual play style, I could see it working to be honest in d2.


Also agree with dudes point.

Make it all 6s or all 4s pve and pvp

dudeeile

Mitch Connor wrote: »

A multiplier to increase the physical size of the map?

I would imagine they would have to manually change the map and spacing to make them bigger.

I just don't think it is really needed.

I think Vostok, Dead Cliffs, Fortress, Midtown and Distant Shore, at least, are big enough for 6s. Especially if you think back to 6s on Anomaly or Cauldron for example.

Well yeah I kinda over simplified to be fair but it wouldn't require a re-inventing of the wheel either. The only map so far that I think could work with FOUR extra players might be the raid one. That's a whole other team to accomodate and the maps are already set that you are only ever really roughly two to three corners from another engagement

dudeeile

jcd5971 wrote: »

Also agree with dudes point.

Make it all 6s or all 4s pve and pvp

Whoooooah, don't misquote me there chief!

I'm pro all 4's, anti 6's but can still see 6's being introduced in PvP

Kimbot

dudeeile wrote: »

Well yeah I kinda over simplified to be fair but it wouldn't require a re-inventing of the wheel either. The only map so far that I think could work with FOUR extra players might be the raid one. That's a whole other team to accomodate and the maps are already set that you are only ever really roughly two to three corners from another engagement

That map reminds me of the one in D1. catherdal of dusk i think it was. Just basically 2 longish run ups to the middle and everyon fighting it out there for b.

ginger_hammer

General question - when I go to a planet for a public event I see 5-6 other random people in the Roster - then we complete the public event and I look at the map for the next one on the same planet then fast travel to it. However this seems to get rid of everyone on the Roster and I'm alone doing the next public event. Is this normal? Should I not fast travel?

gimli2112

yeah you are likely to be travelling to another session, same map/location but a different part of the internet, if that makes sense.
Depending on the Public Event I'll often fast travel to the same location I just completed the PE on. Sometimes you run into the same PE immediately that is being completed in that space.