Destiny General Discussion Thread

nocal

I reckon an easier strat for Golgoroth will appear during the day.

It might be possible for example to have 3 gaze grabbers per run. On the the third one, destroy all the orbs (or not).

Next run use the 3 orbs for DPS that were not used the first time and the other 3 guardians to grab the gaze.

It might even be possible to use one orb per run and rotate the gaze holder and orb used. Time will tell.

gimli2112

Cormac... wrote: »

Torn between having a BAD experience with that NF that turned me off NFs and wanting to try roll the dice to get some of dem new Exotics yo!

Just post your login details and one of us will run them for you..... or delete all your stuff.

Are new exotics live? Has the weapon patch dropped?

sniper_samurai

gimli2112 wrote: »

Are new exotics live? Has the weapon patch dropped?

Not until the patch drops later.

Kimbot

gimli2112 wrote: »

Just post your login details and one of us will run them for you..... or delete all your stuff.

Are new exotics live? Has the weapon patch dropped?

They will be ready at beer o clock

nocal

Cormac... wrote: »

Torn between having a BAD experience with that NF that turned me off NFs and wanting to try roll the dice to get some of dem new Exotics yo!

Yes but 3 hunters....not the ideal combination for the nightfall last time.

I find that there can be sweaty moments in the nightfalls these days. But the right combination and a bit of co-ordination and persistence and they are not a problem.

sniper_samurai

jonny24ie wrote: »

They will be ready at beer o clock

Its always beer o clock though.

gimli2112

nocal wrote: »

Yes but 3 hunters....not the ideal combination for the nightfall last time.

I find that there can be sweaty moments in the nightfalls these days. But the right combination and a bit of co-ordination and persistence and they are not a problem.

Yeah with light levels where they are the NFs are ok if you have three - you can get unlucky in a few spots. Soloing seems harder though. The Brothers is pretty handy too as there's a couple of cheese spots for the boss battle.

TitianGerm

New start just appeared.

No need to take down six orbs in one go.

Player A takes gaze as usual and calls out at 10. A then swaps gaze to player B.

Player C, D, E and F damage for the first two rounds as normal jump out at 10 seconds on Player B Gaze and then swap the gaze between themselves while out of the centre.

Reset go again.

The mechanic is that all 6 players must take gaze before losing Gaze.

Mitch Connor

emmetkenny wrote: »

New start just appeared.

No need to take down six orbs in one go.

Player A takes gaze swaps to player B. Player C, D, E and F jump out at 10 seconds and then swap the gaze between themselves while out of the centre.

Reset go again.

The mechanic is that all 6 players must take gaze before losing Gaze.

So can you one orb it after that then? hmmmmm. So all 6 orbs don't need to go down?

Kimbot

gimli2112 wrote: »

Yeah with light levels where they are the NFs are ok if you have three - you can get unlucky in a few spots. Soloing seems harder though. The Brothers is pretty handy too as there's a couple of cheese spots for the boss battle.

NF's are easy to Solo :P

TitianGerm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

So can you one orb it after that then? hmmmmm. So all 6 orbs don't need to go down?

Yes you can one orb it as well.

A takes gaze as usual. B, C, D, E and F in the pit. A calls 10 and everyone jumps out.

B then takes gaze, C takes straight away and so on.

gimli2112

jonny24ie wrote: »

NF's are easy to Solo :P

Still remember Tanicks Year one, lightswitch. Had Tannicks down to a sliver of health and a Captain one hit punched me in the face. Back to orbit. Not happy. :eek:

sniper_samurai

Dropping another emblem and guaranteed 320 drops inc another artifact.

Generic Dreadhead

Sexy new Playstation Messages App (for Chat Rooms) for iPhone,

Mitch Connor

sniper_samurai wrote: »

Dropping another emblem and guaranteed 320 drops inc another artifact.

read it is a Chest Piece this week, along with the artifact.

sniper_samurai

Mitch Connor wrote: »

read it is a Chest Piece this week, along with the artifact.

Think its just random from Golgoraths loot table. Seen others say they got gauntlets.

johnnybucks

Mitch Connor wrote: »

elvel is level spelled incorrectly.

I would argue people will gravitate towards the weapon meta that has the highest chance of victory rather than a personal preference most of the time.

also, I wasn't arguing Firebase is a sidearm map - merely pointing out that there isn't another map which you would describe as primarily a <insert gun type here> map. Tell me which map is primarly a shotgun map, for example? Or Fusion map? The fact you can say a level is primarily a sniper map would indicate there is a problem with the weapon. There are maps in which a mix of weapons are viable, but I would argue the twich scoping ability and AA of snipers makes them too viable in too many situations.

Tell me which map is primarly a shotgun map?:
- Anomoly
- Caludron
- that stupid ToO one witht the pipes.

Just catching up on this read and it sounds like you are just getting whooped adn cant take a good beating....

In every shooting game a snipe is on a one shot head shot, do you complain in Halo when you are sniped or in Gears or any other CoD?

No stop moaning about metas and enjoy the blooding game.

Sorry about the Rant but this got up in my títs.....:mad:

sniper_samurai

Cormac... wrote: »

Sexy new Playstation Messages App (for Chat Rooms) for iPhone,

Same with Android. They've seperated out the messages to a new app, if you want to keep getting psn messages on your phone you will need to install it.

Can now use and view stuckers from your phone.

Generic Dreadhead

Is Golgoroths ENRAGE timer based on overall time spent on the encounter (5 or 10 mins etc), or number of times you take his gaze (initially) and lose it (6 cycles etc)?

I'm thinking something like 2, 3 or 4 pools would be best.

Before the demise of the Multi-pool strat before we had some great success with 4-pool (L1, R1, L2, R2)

sniper_samurai

Cormac... wrote: »

Is Golgoroths ENRAGE timer based on overall time spent on the encounter (5 or 10 mins etc), or number of times you take his gaze (initially) and lose it (6 cycles etc)?

I'm thinking something like 2, 3 or 4 pools would be best.

Before the demise of the Multi-pool strat before we had some great success with 4-pool (L1, R1, L2, R2)

Timer, just like all the other raid bosses.

Generic Dreadhead

sniper_samurai wrote: »

Timer, just like all the other bosses.

Hmmmm, now to just work out the optimum number of pools before all of the guys in the Pit are out of Black Spindle Ammo so

AdamD

Think its 10 minutes

sniper_samurai

Cormac... wrote: »

Hmmmm, now to just work out the optimum number of pools before all of the guys in the Pit are out of Black Spindle Ammo so

Definitely two. You can hold 21 bullets without an armour perk and usually get 9-12 shots per gaze.

TitianGerm

johnnybucks wrote: »

Tell me which map is primarly a shotgun map?:
- Anomoly
- Caludron
- that stupid ToO one witht the pipes.

Just catching up on this read and it sounds like you are just getting whooped adn cant take a good beating....

In every shooting game a snipe is on a one shot head shot, do you complain in Halo when you are sniped or in Gears or any other CoD?

No stop moaning about metas and enjoy the blooding game.

Sorry about the Rant but this got up in my títs.....:mad:

I think your a little over the top there Johnny.. All he said is a sniper should not be a viable option at close range (which it shouldnt)

Another point that was made was every gun in the game has been nerfed bar snipers. Snipers need a small nerf too now.

I personally would add a short delay to ADS time, reduce the overall ammo you can carry in PvP and maybe add a slight sway to the scope when scoped in for a long period or reduce Aim Assist.

Just to clarify the above - I'm **** with snipers and I can still do fairly OK with them.

Generic Dreadhead

sniper_samurai wrote: »

Definitely two. You can hold 21 bullets without an armour perk and usually get 9-12 shots per gaze.

So on that Basis, you have the 1st person who gets the Bomb take the Gaze the 3rd time, and then just (essentially) waste the last 4 orbs?

The 2nd person who gets the bomb just has to jump away

johnnybucks

emmetkenny wrote: »

I think your a little over the top there Johnny.. All he said is a sniper should not be a viable option at close range (which it shouldnt)

Another point that was made was every gun in the game has been nerfed bar snipers. Snipers need a small nerf too now.

I personally would add a short delay to ADS time, reduce the overall ammo you can carry in PvP and maybe add a slight sway to the scope when scoped in for a long period or reduce Aim Assist.

Just to clarify the above - I'm **** with snipers and I can still do fairly OK with them.

But again Emmet, nobody has any issues in every other FPS shoot, halo the snipe is a shotgun up close, in Gears you can do the same if you are skilled.

I feel that he is saying that snipers are to easy to use and that is why everyone is using them.

They are the most frustating gun in the game.... but get them right and they are the best. I wouldnt nerf the sniper I would bring up sidearms and fusion rifles to better include them but if you cant use one dont moan about them.

And if you dont like it play a different game. The game mechanics in this are so flush we will find anything to moan about....

OptimusTractor

Cormac... wrote: »

But you won't win many games of Control with 6 snipers 99% of the time.

Sounds like a Boards 3am Saturday morning anyone for PvP Challenge.

AdamD

Couldn't you just do it the 'normal' way but at the end of the first bubble a 2nd guy takes the gaze, then everyone jumps out and 'wastes' the gaze once each. Then continue on as if you were doing it the usual way with 1 bubble/1 gazer?

TitianGerm

johnnybucks wrote: »

But again Emmet, nobody has any issues in every other FPS shoot, halo the snipe is a shotgun up close, in Gears you can do the same if you are skilled.

I feel that he is saying that snipers are to easy to use and that is why everyone is using them.

They are the most frustating gun in the game.... but get them right and they are the best. I wouldnt nerf the sniper I would bring up sidearms and fusion rifles to better include them but if you cant use one dont moan about them.

And if you dont like it play a different game. The game mechanics in this are so flush we will find anything to moan about....

COD was rife with complaints about Snipers. I never played Gears multiplayer and only played a little Halo multiplayer so can't comment there.

That's my point though I very rarely use Snipers but when I do I can still pick off headshots very easily.

Generic Dreadhead

AdamD wrote: »

Couldn't you just do it the 'normal' way but at the end of the first bubble a 2nd guy takes the gaze, then everyone jumps out and 'wastes' the gaze once each. Then continue on as if you were doing it the usual way with 1 bubble/1 gazer?

You'd be running a bit close to the ENRAGE timer then in my experience if you're doing it with a team who isn't all very experienced and 310+ and have Black Spindle.

Personally I prefer to work on strategies that the everyman can do as it makes it easier when you have people come and go in different Raid groups.

Working on a strategy which requires enough DPS to ensure you DON'T enrage using 1-orb is fine if we're running it with some of our most experienced players, but then people become TOO reliant on that and you have 2 new players come in or someone on their Alt who is 305 or something and then it all starts going to s**t.