Destiny General Discussion Thread

TitianGerm

AdamD wrote: »

Couldn't you just do it the 'normal' way but at the end of the first bubble a 2nd guy takes the gaze, then everyone jumps out and 'wastes' the gaze once each. Then continue on as if you were doing it the usual way with 1 bubble/1 gazer?

The 6 players have to take the gaze every round.

AdamD

emmetkenny wrote: »

The 6 players have to take the gaze every round.

Doesn't appear to be so, the group I watched did 6 in the first run then killed him with the first orb of the second run. Just depends on whether you're allowed to lose it on any run without killing him/all six getting it.

@Cormac: No reason to not be 310 if you're doing challenge mode

GottaGetGatt

So basically this weeks challenge is to have all 6 players take the gaze at some stage? So the 2 orb method, the method which everyone was doing at the start needs to be done but it's 2 different gaze holders / set of orbs?

Generic Dreadhead

Well there you have it folks:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-12-08-bungie-talks-destiny-the-taken-kings-event-focused-future

"Derek Carroll: "With Taken King we are moving to a more event-based model - things like Festival of the Lost and Sparrow racing, which is our winter event, and then smaller events such as Iron Banner and Trials of Osiris every weekend.

"Rather than doing these giant, monolithic DLC packs, this way everybody who's an owner of Taken King can enjoy these things."

Generic Dreadhead

AdamD wrote: »

@Cormac: No reason to not be 310 if you're doing challenge mode

Not everyone in our Clan is No Lifing this game, and many of them Work Nights, have just had Babies and some even live in other Countries.

In fact there's only about 30 VERY Hardcore and another 30 or so Hardcore Players.

There's TONNES of reasons NOT to be 310, and those things are called "Real-Life Commitments" or "Other Games"

Mitch Connor

Cormac... wrote: »

Well there you have it folks:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-12-08-bungie-talks-destiny-the-taken-kings-event-focused-future

reckon destiny will be dying come March at best without a new raid

TitianGerm

AdamD wrote: »

Doesn't appear to be so, the group I watched did 6 in the first run then killed him with the first orb of the second run. Just depends on whether you're allowed to lose it on any run without killing him/all six getting it.

@Cormac: No reason to not be 310 if you're doing challenge mode

But if they killed him on the first orb of the second run there would be no way to transfer the gaze because he's dead :P

AdamD

Cormac... wrote: »

Not everyone in our Clan is No Lifing this game, and many of them Work Nights, have just had Babies and some even live in other Countries.

In fact there's only about 30 VERY Hardcore and another 30 or so Hardcore Players.

There's TONNES of reasons NOT to be 310, and those things are called "Real-Life Commitments" or "Other Games"

I specified 'if you're doing challenge mode'. If you're not even 310 why worry about it?

Generic Dreadhead

Mitch Connor wrote: »

reckon destiny will be dying come March at best without a new raid

Between people getting games at X-Mass and any Sales in January etc, that'll be it.

Will end up being a 1-day a week thing (on Tuesdays maybe)

But ya know, what, I'm ok with that.

I mean I'd LOVE new DLC (missions, strikes, Raids etc).

But if they put those resources on Destiny 2... I personally don't mind the game calming down a bit and playing other stuff (that was always Bungievisions intention)

At least we'll always have Drunk-PvP eh? :pac:

Mitch Connor

Cormac... wrote: »

Between people getting games at X-Mass and any Sales in January etc, that'll be it.

Will end up being a 1-day a week thing (on Tuesdays maybe)

But ya know, what, I'm ok with that.

I mean I'd LOVE new DLC (missions, strikes, Raids etc).

But if they put those resources on Destiny 2... I personally don't mind the game calming down a bit and playing other stuff (that was always Bungievisions intention)

At least we'll always have Drunk-PvP eh? :pac:

yeah, it's grand from a player perspective, moving to other games. But from a bungie perspective their player engagement is gonna drop massively, which is surely what they'd be working against happening.

Bohrio

AdamD wrote: »

Doesn't appear to be so, the group I watched did 6 in the first run then killed him with the first orb of the second run. Just depends on whether you're allowed to lose it on any run without killing him/all six getting it.

@Cormac: No reason to not be 310 if you're doing challenge mode

I completed this earlier today.

All you need to do is make sure everyone in the team takes the gaze, thats it.

Its very easy almost as easy as the warpriest. No need to worry about taking down all the orbs etc

Generic Dreadhead

Mitch Connor wrote: »

yeah, it's grand from a player perspective, moving to other games. But from a bungie perspective their player engagement is gonna drop massively, which is surely what they'd be working against happening.

I thin they are quiet happy for people to pop on 2 days a week most of the time, and grind a week a month (say for IB or SRL) and grind hard then for the next 9 months.

I mean if Destiny 2 Launches in September, that's actually really not quiet that far away. Especially if they start build the hype in April or something.

They are probably happy enough for there to be a gap of weeks/months with small spikes for IB, ToO, Weapons Balancing, New Live Events etc

I dunno, just speculating.

Mickeroo

Cormac... wrote: »

Well there you have it folks:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-12-08-bungie-talks-destiny-the-taken-kings-event-focused-future

I read that as "No more worthwhile new content before destiny 2"

Like sparrow racing might be fun, but rubbish like festival of the lost should be seen as no more than a novelty.

Generic Dreadhead

Mickeroo wrote: »

I read that as "No more worthwhile new content before destiny 2"

Like sparrow racing might be fun, but rubbish like festival of the lost should be seen as no more than a novelty.

I don't think there's any other way of reading it to be honest.

I can see it now: "That's right Guardians, we're adding a Taken-filled Devils Lair THIS March Woohoo!!!"

Generic Dreadhead

So who is up for Gogleballs later? I'd like to start at 7pm or so.

N0-Cal can confirm the time in your region, I'm sure that's about 7:45pm in the Pale :P

Kimbot

Ill give golg a bash if your running normal, hopefully im home around 7/7:30

sniper_samurai

Wont be able to get on until 8-8.30 tonight myself.

nocal

Cormac... wrote: »

So who is up for Gogleballs later? I'd like to start at 7pm or so.

N0-Cal can confirm the time in your region, I'm sure that's about 7:45pm in the Pale :P

7 pm in the Pale is 7 pm. Now 7 pm Cork time is...eh...maybe 7:20 - 8:10 pm.

Honestly, I only have an idea of what 5 minutes Cork time is...I do not now the exact delay profile to be applied.

I am guessing it will be closer to 7:20 as you will not be doing the nightfall.

I would be up for hard at 7 pm Cork time.

Mitch Connor

Cormac... wrote: »

So who is up for Gogleballs later? I'd like to start at 7pm or so.

N0-Cal can confirm the time in your region, I'm sure that's about 7:45pm in the Pale :P

I'll be on for it tonight - will be on from around 6 or so, will just be doing crucible bounties til we're good to go.

SolvableKnave

AdamD wrote: »

Doesn't appear to be so, the group I watched did 6 in the first run then killed him with the first orb of the second run. Just depends on whether you're allowed to lose it on any run without killing him/all six getting it.

@Cormac: No reason to not be 310 if you're doing challenge mode

Don't forget challenges can be run on NM too.

nocal

Reading up on the challenge, it looks as if a 2 orb strat might be the easiest way to do this. Probably the best balance between DPS'ing Golgoroth and fulfilling the challenge requirements.

First bomb holder becomes gaze holder number 3. Then go to 4,5,6.

Might get a bit hairy once the taken spawn, but it should be possible to finish him on the second pool at this stage.

Generic Dreadhead

nocal wrote: »

7 pm in the Pale is 7 pm. Now 7 pm Cork time is...eh...maybe 7:20 - 8:10 pm.

Honestly, I only have an idea of what 5 minutes Cork time is...I do not now the exact delay profile to be applied.

I am guessing it will be closer to 7:20 as you will not be doing the nightfall.

I would be up for hard at 7 pm Cork time.

Let's just say 8pm Pale-Time and I'll send a rider to the King of Cork to see what time that is here. So depending on how hard he pushes the horse I should be ok for 8pm Pale-Time

sniper_samurai wrote: »

Wont be able to get on until 8-8.30 tonight myself.

Fine but I'm putting a ban on discussing unrelated weapons, perks, armour, patches, etc for Golgoroth.

So get it ALL out of your system during the Tomb Ship Jumping Section :pac:

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I'll be on for it tonight - will be on from around 6 or so, will just be doing crucible bounties til we're good to go.

Playing some more Salvage eh?

nocal wrote: »

Reading up on the challenge, it looks as if a 2 orb strat might be the easiest way to do this. Probably the best balance between DPS'ing Golgoroth and fulfilling the challenge requirements.

First bomb holder becomes gaze holder number 3. Then go to 4,5,6.

Might get a bit hairy once the taken spawn, but it should be possible to finish him on the second pool at this stage.

+1 to this.

2-Pool all the way. 1 tether each time, have the Weapons of Light between the 2 pools.

You could even have Gaze Holder 2 jump in for a few seconds to get a clip of Sniper ammo off, then have them jump out and use Sleeper Simulate to 1-shot the 2nd Orb and then take the gaze. Ideal role for whoever has SS but not Black Spindle (levelled up)

Bohrio

Cormac... wrote: »

+1 to this.

2-Pool all the way. 1 tether each time, have the Weapons of Light between the 2 pools.

You could even have Gaze Holder 2 jump in for a few seconds to get a clip of Sniper ammo off, then have them jump out and use Sleeper Simulate to 1-shot the 2nd Orb and then take the gaze. Ideal role for whoever has SS but not Black Spindle (levelled up)

No need to do two pools, one is enough

Generic Dreadhead

Bohrio wrote: »

No need to do two pools, one is enough

I heard you in September :pac:

Mitch Connor

Cormac... wrote: »

Let's just say 8pm Pale-Time and I'll send a rider to the King of Cork to see what time that is here. So depending on how hard he pushes the horse I should be ok for 8pm Pale-Time



Fine but I'm putting a ban on discussing unrelated weapons, perks, armour, patches, etc for Golgoroth.

So get it ALL out of your system during the Tomb Ship Jumping Section :pac:



Playing some more Salvage eh?



+1 to this.

2-Pool all the way. 1 tether each time, have the Weapons of Light between the 2 pools.

You could even have Gaze Holder 2 jump in for a few seconds to get a clip of Sniper ammo off, then have them jump out and use Sleeper Simulate to 1-shot the 2nd Orb and then take the gaze. Ideal role for whoever has SS but not Black Spindle (levelled up)

Don't have a BS myself but my Sleeper is 317. Can deal with the second orb no problem.

I'd worry about getting from the pit, into position (R3? R1?) and getting the shot off for transferring the gaze though.

I'd say gaze holder one should (if possible) sleeper the second orb as soon as the gaze is transferred and then jump down themselves. Second gaze holder turns G originally and just stays up to ensure no issues (hopefully) in transferring.

nocal

Cormac... wrote: »

Let's just say 8pm Pale-Time and I'll send a rider to the King of Cork to see what time that is here. So depending on how hard he pushes the horse I should be ok for 8pm Pale-Time



Fine but I'm putting a ban on discussing unrelated weapons, perks, armour, patches, etc for Golgoroth.

So get it ALL out of your system during the Tomb Ship Jumping Section :pac:



Playing some more Salvage eh?



+1 to this.

2-Pool all the way. 1 tether each time, have the Weapons of Light between the 2 pools.

You could even have Gaze Holder 2 jump in for a few seconds to get a clip of Sniper ammo off, then have them jump out and use Sleeper Simulate to 1-shot the 2nd Orb and then take the gaze. Ideal role for whoever has SS but not Black Spindle (levelled up)

+1 to the bit in bold :pac:

Or..instead of distracting Golgy, you take his gaze. Then take L1 down, transfer the gaze. At 5 seconds transfer the gaze and take R1 down. Then you only have to transfer the gaze to 4,5 and 6.

Send my greetings to the King of Cork and ask him how that butler I sent him is working out?

Mitch Connor

Bohrio wrote: »

No need to do two pools, one is enough

In terms of overall time and DPS, I would say getting some second pool DPS in would take pressure off a possible enrage. We have got near that a few times on the one orb strat.

Generic Dreadhead

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I'd worry about getting from the pit, into position (R3? R1?) and getting the shot off for transferring the gaze though.

I'd say gaze holder one should (if possible) sleeper the second orb as soon as the gaze is transferred and then jump down themselves. Second gaze holder turns G originally and just stays up to ensure no issues (hopefully) in transferring.

For the 2nd Pool, you will be jumping out to R2, 1-shotting the orb, shooting him to get the Gaze, then moving to R1 (from R2).

Aiming R2 -> L1 (where I'll take Gaze-1) gives you a 135 degree line of sight on his back (more than enough)

Mitch Connor wrote: »

In terms of overall time and DPS, I would say getting some second pool DPS in would take pressure off a possible enrage. We have got near that a few times on the one orb strat.

Yeah, I blame Alcohol and Gaze-Puns

nocal wrote: »

Or..instead of distracting Golgy, you take his gaze. Then take L1 down, transfer the gaze. At 5 seconds transfer the gaze and take R1 down. Then you only have to transfer the gaze to 4,5 and 6.

Nah, F**k that, too different and new and confusing and hard and no....

Mitch Connor

Cormac... wrote: »

For the 2nd Pool, you will be jumping out to R2, 1-shotting the orb, shooting him to get the Gaze, then moving to R1 (from R2).

Aiming R2 -> L1 (where I'll take Gaze-1) gives you a 135 degree line of sight on his back (more than enough)



Yeah, I blame Alcohol and Gaze-Puns

Just not sure of the timing in terms of getting some decent DPS into him, jumping out, turning, aiming and taking the gaze (sometimes it doesn't go on first shot) - obviously we can give it a few runs to work on timing though.

Generic Dreadhead

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Just not sure of the timing in terms of getting some decent DPS into him, jumping out, turning, aiming and taking the gaze (sometimes it doesn't go on first shot) - obviously we can give it a few runs to work on timing though.

If you start the Run at L1 (by me), and ONLY shoot 1-clip of Sniper Ammo, Jump to L2, SS-1-Shot Orb L1, SS-Shot his Exposed Back, it shouldn't be a problem, just a have faith. Sounds complicated but you have 15 seconds overall.