Boiler in utility room.

from_atozinc

Wearb wrote: »

I wouldn't go so far as to call him names. It is a simple mistake to make and I can still understand those reading. Those reading are not too bad, except for the temperature readings. Those could have been caused by poor cleaning, or damaged baffles.

I meant a picture with the front cover removed.

Oh ok. Sorry. I was too harsh. I thought he made a total balls of it..........So was just annoyed after handing over the money etc .

Is the co level of 60 a bit high ?

jimf

his analyser is set up to read efficiency at net instead of gross not a major issue except you are getting a false reading regarding the efficiency of your boiler

the co is not high but usually that boiler can be set quite well with a co in the region of 30ppm

from_atozinc

Hi. Took some photos just now. Not sure if they are what's needed.

from_atozinc

And of outside.

from_atozinc

Could not really locate this:

"Post a pic of where your oil line from the tank joins the first fitting in the boiler compartment"

agusta

There appears to be a timber panel on the right hand side of the boiler..,can this be easily removed.there will be a fitting behind this,maybe even a firevalve

from_atozinc

agusta wrote: »

There appears to be a timber panel on the right hand side of the boiler..,can this be easily removed.there will be a fitting behind this,maybe even a firevalve

Oh ok. I was thinking it would come in in left hand side.

Pics attached of right side.

agusta

There doesent appear to be a kerosene leak there or from the burner.Do you only get the smell when the boiler is running.Do you think its a combustion smell and not kerosene..,the top of the boiler looks abit sooted up then me...if its possible to take the top panel off the boiler and post a picture of where the flue connects into the boiler

from_atozinc

agusta wrote: »

There doesent appear to be a kerosene leak there or from the burner.Do you only get the smell when the boiler is running.Do you think its a combustion smell and not kerosene..,the top of the boiler looks abit sooted up then me...if its possible to take the top panel off the boiler and post a picture of where the flue connects into the boiler

Hi. Thanks.

Yeah, get it while it's running more so but it also lingers around afterwards.

I don't know the difference between a combustion smell and a kerosene smell. But the smell is just nasty , when you walk in to utility room, you are just immediately hit with the smell.

May not have a chance for that as starting kid routine now.

Billy Bunting

agusta wrote: »

There doesent appear to be a kerosene leak there or from the burner.Do you only get the smell when the boiler is running.Do you think its a combustion smell and not kerosene..,the top of the boiler looks abit sooted up then me...if its possible to take the top panel off the boiler and post a picture of where the flue connects into the boiler

I would agree with agusta, the boiler casing does show serious signs of sooting, stop using the boiler and get a professional out asap.

from_atozinc

Billy Bunting wrote: »

I would agree with agusta, the boiler casing does show serious signs of sooting, stop using the boiler and get a professional out asap.

Hi. Which picture are you referring to here ?

Billy Bunting

The second picture, the one howing the pump.

Case and wall sooted.

Billy Bunting

Picture 1 on post 104 also shows the snorkle covered in soot at high level.

from_atozinc

Billy Bunting wrote: »

The second picture, the one howing the pump.

Case and wall sooted.

Hi. This one ?

Are you talking about soot on back wall or on the boiler itself. EDIT : ignore this line !!!

agusta

both,soot has to come from somewhere

from_atozinc

agusta wrote: »

both,soot has to come from somewhere

And would this extra soot cause the smell

Billy Bunting

It would appear that your leaking products of combustion and so the burner is recurculating thos products and making matters worse, POC maybe leaking into that room, POC contain Carbon monoxide.

from_atozinc

Also. The service was done last week by the Oftec registered engineer. Cost was 110. Should the soot have been something he addressed ? Or is that outside service work.

from_atozinc

Billy Bunting wrote: »

It would appear that your leaking products of combustion and so the burner is recurculating thos products and making matters worse, POC maybe leaking into that room, POC contain Carbon monoxide.

Sh1t3. This does not sound good. What's POC.

Billy Bunting

In the picture on post 104 the snorkle (plastic hose)appears not to be connected, was it left that way ?

from_atozinc

Billy Bunting wrote: »

In the picture on post 104 the snorkle (plastic hose)appears not to be connected, was it left that way ?

I have not touched anything since the service anyway.

Are you talking about the bottom end or top end of it ?

Billy Bunting

Sorry but you need to stop using it and get a professional out its not something that can be sorted 100% on a discussion forum and it could be seriously dangerous.

from_atozinc

Billy Bunting wrote: »

Sorry but you need to stop using it and get a professional out its not something that can be sorted 100% on a discussion forum and it could be seriously dangerous.

I understand.

Any of ye in Galway !?

agusta

Im sure if you rang the guy that serviced it he will come back and sort it

from_atozinc

agusta wrote: »

Im sure if you rang the guy that serviced it he will come back and sort it

mmmmm, but how professional is he if he didn't notice this or just make me aware of it.

jimf

looking back over all the pics you posted I would have to agree with agusta and billy

also that bf hose left disconnected raises more questions than answers

from_atozinc

jimf wrote: »

looking back over all the pics you posted I would have to agree with agusta and billy

also that bf hose left disconnected raises more questions than answers

Thanks jimf.

Never easy : (

Wearb

Give your last service guy a call. Mention what has been discussed here. He may not like it, but if it were me, I would call back to sort it.

from_atozinc

Billy Bunting wrote: »

It would appear that your leaking products of combustion and so the burner is recurculating thos products and making matters worse, POC maybe leaking into that room, POC contain Carbon monoxide.

Hi, what is POC ?

Wearb

Fumes

Dtp1979

from_atozinc wrote: »

Hi, what is POC ?

Products of combustion

from_atozinc

jimf wrote: »

looking back over all the pics you posted I would have to agree with agusta and billy

also that bf hose left disconnected raises more questions than answers

Yeah. I double checked that hose again and it's just left there loose, seems strange. Looks like it's supposed to insert over the hole to the right of it.......but not sure.

Billy Bunting

from_atozinc wrote: »

Yeah. I double checked that hose again and it's just left there loose, seems strange. Looks like it's supposed to insert over the hole to the right of it.......but not sure.

This is a small utility room, it must take its air from outside via that hose unless it has sufficient perminent ventilation to the room.

OP, there are plenty of things we can tell you to try a fix on this but by the look of the boiler and the things that are not right you really mustnt play with this.

from_atozinc

Billy Bunting wrote: »

This is a small utility room, it must take its air from outside via that hose unless it has sufficient perminent ventilation to the room.

OP, there are plenty of things we can tell you to try a fix on this but by the look of the boiler and the things that are not right you really mustnt play with this.

Fair enough. Just spoke with the oil boiler service man. He said he left the grey pipe disconnected for a reason.

I mentioned the soot thing and he said that was there before he did the service.

He said he will call out.

agusta

from_atozinc wrote: »

Fair enough. Just spoke with the oil boiler service man. He said he left the grey pipe disconnected for a reason.

I mentioned the soot thing and he said that was there before he did the service.

He said he will call out.

He is correct about the grey pipe i would think.i think the guy who fitted the boiler originally didnt leave out the flue far enough outside the outside wall.there should be 2 inches between the cone of the flue and the outside wall.i dont think this is the case in your boiler.i.e ,post 105,first picture

from_atozinc

agusta wrote: »

He is correct about the grey pipe i would think.i think the guy who fitted the boiler originally didnt leave out the flue far enough outside the outside wall.there should be 2 inches between the cone of the flue and the outside wall.i dont think this is the case in your boiler.i.e ,post 105,first picture

Right. Yeah tis fairly welded up against the wall alright. But what difference would it make it if it was a tiny bit further out ?

jimf

if your service guy told you he left the hose off for a reason im betting he couldn't get the boiler to run properly because it was sucking in its own pocs


as for the soot issue if he knew what he was at this should be a red flag not to be ignored

again to voice the opinion of others do not use this boiler

agusta

It means the air intake vents on the flue for the grey hose are plastered into the wall.so the grey air intake pipe was never connected to burner from first day.The cone of the flue should be 2 inches from the wall to be able to use the grey hose.Instead your boiler is getting air from your utility from day one.Not ideal but it can work this way too.provided its getting a consistant supply of fresh air

Billy Bunting

You can also have the internal flue pipe split on these and the POC leaking back through the outer pipe back to the burner.

If the snorkle wasnt to be used it should have been removed and sealed

from_atozinc

Billy Bunting wrote: »

You can also have the internal flue pipe split on these and the POC leaking back through the outer pipe back to the burner.

If the snorkle wasnt to be used it should have been removed and sealed

I think he said something like he got better readings when the grey pipe was not connected.

from_atozinc

jimf wrote: »

if your service guy told you he left the hose off for a reason im betting he couldn't get the boiler to run properly because it was sucking in its own pocs


as for the soot issue if he knew what he was at this should be a red flag not to be ignored

again to voice the opinion of others do not use this boiler

In regard to the soot issue, I mentioned it to him and he said it was there before he looked at it at all.

I don't know much about this but is soot buildup removal etc even part of an oil boiler service

Walter Becket

Here's my twopence worth:
There's a lot of super q boilers installed under counters in utility rooms in my area a good few have soot like yours. I use my fga to check if they are leaking flue gas if they are the work top comes off and I repair the seal between the boiler and flue and test again. Be prepared to take off the work top or have it off for your service man when he comes. I know he should have checked and should have re-sealed the flue but it's you who it matters most to and your family who are breading the fumes including carbon monoxide, so get it fixed before you regret spending days talking to us guys about it.

from_atozinc

Also. Beside the boiler I have a condenser dryer and a washing machine.

At this time of year the condenser dryer is always feckin on. I'm sure this does not do much good for air circulation in this small utility room. It's kinda like a radiator in itself with the heat it gives off.

Would it be an idea to move the condenser dryer to another room. (On top of getting boiler looked at)

from_atozinc

Walter Becket wrote: »

Here's my twopence worth:
There's a lot of super q boilers installed under counters in utility rooms in my area a good few have soot like yours. I use my fga to check if they are leaking flue gas if they are the work top comes off and I repair the seal between the boiler and flue and test again. Be prepared to take off the work top or have it off for your service man when he comes. I know he should have checked and should have re-sealed the flue but it's you who it matters most to and your family who are breading the fumes including carbon monoxide, so get it fixed before you regret spending days talking to us guys about it.

Had a look quickly this morning at removing work top.
Never had to do this before.................but it seems to be all the one unit, so to lift the work top, I have to lift the whole of the top unit, including sink and all, is this right?

See attached pics, place is a bit of a mess.

Wearb

Don't be taking so much upon yourself in a rented house. Throw the responsibility back on the landlord.