Palestinian youth fly the Tricolour while stopping the IDF entering their communities

timthumbni

end of the road wrote: »

irish patriots care. among others.


he's telling the truth though, infact i'd replace scum with vermin myself

If by others you mean some dirty looking burger bar in Iran then I won't lose much sleep.

So let me get this straight all the BA/RUC etc murdered by the IRA were not scum, (as described by junkyard Tom) they were actually just vermin according to you.

Is this the standard republicans have lowered themselves to now??? Can we all play this game???

Well, I suppose it makes a change from you suggesting the garda might use "lethal force" against those residents in Dublin objecting to the council putting in a halting site overnight beside them. You will forgive me for not taking you too seriously.

Junkyard Tom

timthumbni wrote: »

I was more referring to young Toms rather sweeping "scum" description.

You're aware of the Glennane Gang? What would you call a bunch of murderers recruited from the UDR and RUC? I wouldn't mind so much if they'd actually been killing Republicans but these degenerates went after civilians and they chose their victims carefully:

in all but one case they were “upwardly-mobile” Catholics who were – either through their own enterprise or hard work – lifting their economic and political aspirations.

“LETHAL ALLIES: British Collusion in Ireland” - Mercier Press

Nodin

timthumbni wrote: »

Is this the standard republicans have lowered themselves to now??? Can we all play this game???

...........

They have some considerable distance to go to reach the level of yours.

Azalea

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

So two kids weren't murdered in Warrington then? Maybe you'd better contact their parents and inform them of that.

And while you're at it I suppose a bunch of civilians weren't murdered in Enniskillen in 1987?

Of course they were. Who said they weren't?
What a non sequitur - "loyalist paramilitaries and elements of the security forces were part of the picture too... So you're saying IRA atrocities didn't happen?!"

Nodin

Azalea wrote: »

Of course they were. Who said they weren't?
What a non sequitur - "loyalist paramilitaries and elements of the security forces were part of the picture too... So you're saying IRA atrocities didn't happen?!"

Some will say anything to avoid discussion of Israeli activity.

timthumbni

FalconGirl wrote: »

Why is that so hard to believe? My generation and many others came along after the worst of the troubles. We don't hold that bitterness. Have to admit the mural to Steve 'Top Gun' McKeag was disgusting. How would any decent citizen want that in their community? Celebrating the life of a man who killed so many innocents to this day, I could only look on in disgust. How is the North supposed to truly move forward with ****e like that painted on walls? It made me realise some truly don't want to.

No, I just thought it funny that you were amazed by the height of the walls that's all. We aren't really talking Great Wall of china here but whatever. I suppose if you never saw them before they would seem odd.

Regarding the murals I agree. Are you referring to all murals or just that particular loyalist one though? I assume you went on one of those bus tours or troubles tours they do in Belfast. Did you not see any republican murals as you passed through the falls etc?? It's those type of murals that are the highlight of those tours (or lowlight) if you will. Tourists love that sort of crap. Is the Adams leader, visionary, God one still up?

NoCrackHaving

It's bizarre the amount of sheer head in the sand posts about loyalist and British army and RUC atrocities. There was no PIRA equivalent to the Shankill Butchers or the romper rooms but the way some posters go on its as if the loyalist and security forces were angels compared to the republican s.

Azalea

NoCrackHaving wrote: »

It's bizarre the amount of sheer head in the sand posts about loyalist and British army and RUC atrocities. There was no PIRA equivalent to the Shankill Butchers or the romper rooms but the way some posters go on its as if the loyalist and security forces were angels compared to the republican s.

It's ignorance - being raised to believe the troubles = republicans and nobody else. It's surprising for a place like Boards, where people are more intelligent and educated than on your average other forum.

timthumbni

Azalea wrote: »

It's ignorance - being raised to believe the troubles = republicans and nobody else. It's surprising for a place like Boards, where people are more intelligent and educated than on your average other forum.

I laughed at this post, especially when you look at the other thread about the so called "educated" students in Cork. Excellent.

ironingbored

Would strongly recommend looking up Miko Peled, grandson of one of Israel's founding fathers, son of IDF General Matti Peled and himself a former soldier. He is now a peace campaigner and fervent supporter of the Palestinian cause. His "Zionist" credentials are beyond reproach.

Here's one of his speeches this year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05nh1asqU9o

Junkyard Tom

timthumbni wrote: »

I laughed at this post, especially when you look at the other thread about the so called "educated" students in Cork. Excellent.

Thick paddies is it Tim? You play the 'moderate' unionist really badly.

Azalea

timthumbni wrote: »

I laughed at this post, especially when you look at the other thread about the so called "educated" students in Cork. Excellent.

What's so funny about it?
One incident doesn't prove anything. University students aren't always intelligent.

timthumbni

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Loyal/unionists have built a culture around not moving on, they spend half the summer dressing up and marching around the place to commemorate battles that took place centuries ago ffs. Fenian-hater Tim there enjoys an old drum banging session in the summer.

Really Tom????? I'm not musical at all. Couldn't play a note.

Regarding "fenian hater" as only you could so eloquently put it, I'm not into religion so don't really know why you would say that. You do realise that having a disdain for the murdering, inadequate losers of the IRA (yes, I can name call as well) does not really correspond with hating nationalists and/or Catholics don't you????? Though I sense you may not realise this.

I sense a lot of anger in you though Tom. I don't think that could be good for you health wise. Lol. Keep going though. With your sort of people around I really believe a so called "united" Ireland must be just around the corner. (Snigger.)

NoCrackHaving

timthumbni wrote: »

Really Tom????? I'm not musical at all. Couldn't play a note.

Regarding "fenian hater" as only you could so eloquently put it, I'm not into religion so don't really know why you would say that. You do realise that having a disdain for the murdering, inadequate losers of the IRA (yes, I can name call as well) does not really correspond with hating nationalists and/or Catholics don't you????? Though I sense you may not realise this.

I sense a lot of anger in you though Tom. I don't think that could be good for you health wise. Lol. Keep going though. With your sort of people around I really believe a so called "united" Ireland must be just around the corner. (Snigger.)

Do you the same disdain for loyalist, RUC and British army murderers?

end of the road

timthumbni wrote: »

Really Tom????? I'm not musical at all. Couldn't play a note.

Regarding "fenian hater" as only you could so eloquently put it, I'm not into religion so don't really know why you would say that. You do realise that having a disdain for the murdering, inadequate losers of the IRA (yes, I can name call as well) does not really correspond with hating nationalists and/or Catholics don't you????? Though I sense you may not realise this.

I sense a lot of anger in you though Tom. I don't think that could be good for you health wise. Lol. Keep going though. With your sort of people around I really believe a so called "united" Ireland must be just around the corner. (Snigger.)

you don't need to have a musical note to bang the old drum.

timthumbni

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Thick paddies is it Tim? You play the 'moderate' unionist really badly.

Calm down dear. You really are getting quite hysterical and paranoid.

No, I also find the British students here in Northern Ireland and others in the UK mainland to be equally as stupid. More making the point that more or less anyone can be a student nowadays and it certainly doesn't necessarily equate with intelligence.

And btw Tom what's with all these imagined insults you keep going on about? "Fenian hater, thick paddies" these are your words Tom. No one else has mentioned these disgusting slurs.. Why do you keep bringing them up yourself??? I sense a lot of self loathing in your posts.

timthumbni

Azalea wrote: »

University students aren't always intelligent.

Amen brother.

Junkyard Tom

timthumbni wrote: »

And btw Tom what's with all these imagined insults you keep going on about?

I can read between the lines Tim. Your posts are drenched in bitterness.

timthumbni

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

I can read between the lines Tim. Your posts are drenched in bitterness.

Paranoid. Exhibit A. ;-)

Azalea

timthumbni wrote: »

You do realise that having a disdain for the murdering, inadequate losers of the IRA (yes, I can name call as well) does not really correspond with hating nationalists and/or Catholics don't you?

Of course it doesn't, but you point blank refuse to condemn loyalist paramilitaries or atrocities by elements of the security forces. This indicates having less of a concern for other aspects of the bigger picture that was the troubles. Of course there are republicans who refuse to condemn IRA atrocities too, but you're not coming across as that different to be honest - just coming from a different perspective.

You are throwing insults at people too, and resorting to a childish style of posting, so you're not in a position to complain about others name-calling, to be honest.

Fratton Fred

Nodin wrote: »

The West Lemon.

Should we call it Keith?

Junkyard Tom

timthumbni wrote: »

...

Bitterness. Exhibit A.

timthumbni wrote: »

If I'm honest I wouldn't want a Sinn Fein councillor teaching my child.

Catherine Seeley had been a teacher at the Belfast Boys' Model School, but she left after being subjected to abuse.

Pupils at the Belfast Boys' Model school have been rallying behind Catherine Seeley after she was subjected to a litany of threats and online abuse

belfasttelegraph.co.uk

I'm done here. Enjoy.

timthumbni

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Bitterness. Exhibit A.





I'm done here. Enjoy.

Searching through a complete strangers old posts. Paranoia. Exhibit B. Lol.

Sad Tom, sad.

partyguinness

the evasion_kid wrote: »

Gas isn't it,game of flegs.as a side note I met a lot of Israelis around south east asia who just finished their army service and a lot of them would ask me if i was a Republican,don't think they're particularly fond of the Irish.

I hear you. I was on a tour in Mexico years ago and there was 2 Israeli ladies who went out of their way to blatantly ignore myself and my buddy in our classy Celtic jerseys...:o

But then they were ignorant to everyone so we didnt give a ****.

partyguinness

timthumbni wrote: »

Searching through a complete strangers old posts. Paranoia. Exhibit B. Lol.

Sad Tom, sad.

Backing up a point with old posts hardly comes under the definition of paranoia.

Loving the big spoon in your wee hand...(snigger...lol);)

timthumbni

partyguinness wrote: »

Backing up a point with old posts hardly comes under the definition of paranoia.

Loving the big spoon in your wee hand...(snigger...lol);)

Hold on. "Backing up a point" from a man who has just referred to all BA/RUC men murdered by the IRA as "scum" anyway is a bit ridiculous. He already has shown his credentials so to speak.

It's attitudes such as his which lead me away from the views of SF and fellow IRA apologists. Of course I wouldn't want my child exposed to such beliefs. And btw my kids go to an integrated education school in Northern Ireland. But sure ignore Toms republican based paranoia. There's a good lad. (Snigger)

partyguinness

timthumbni wrote: »

Hold on. "Backing up a point" from a man who has just referred to all BA/RUC men murdered by the IRA as "scum" anyway is a bit ridiculous. He already has shown his credentials so to speak.

It's attitudes such as his which lead me away from the views of SF and fellow IRA apologists. Of course I wouldn't want my child exposed to such beliefs. And btw my kids go to an integrated education school in Northern Ireland. But sure ignore Toms republican based paranoia. There's a good lad. (Snigger)

Calm down dear...all the sniggering and lols in your house today...people may start to think you are a bit mad or maybe just a little juvenile..;)

El Weirdo

El Weirdo wrote: »

Tiocfaidh Allah.

Ohhhhhhh damn, credit where it's due, that was good!

BlaasForRafa

Nodin wrote: »

Anything to say on the topic? other than the usual 'I don't support the settlements but sort of do' thing?

You got an answer to my questions rather than a one liner deflection?

NoCrackHaving

NoCrackHaving wrote: »

Do you the same disdain for loyalist, RUC and British army murderers?

Still awaiting a reply to this one. Interesting how Tim has gone very quiet the moment loyalist or security forces atrocities are mentioned.

Orangebrigade

It is a lost cause and I don't know why they bother, they aren't getting a state. What are they trying to teach us with the Irish tri colour? That they are on the side of losers in history? As that is what it basically amounts to.

Orangebrigade

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

You have no credibility. You conveniently forget all the sectarianism, discrimination, imprisonment without trial, and murder that caused the troubles. You're also an apologist for British colonialism and the brutality that accompanied it.

You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

lol nice rewriting of history.

the evasion_kid

partyguinness wrote: »

I hear you. I was on a tour in Mexico years ago and there was 2 Israeli ladies who went out of their way to blatantly ignore myself and my buddy in our classy Celtic jerseys...:o

But then they were ignorant to everyone so we didnt give a ****.

Myself and a friend were sitting in a restaurant that opened out onto the street I think it was in koh samui and a group of them came down the road,some Thai young fella was trying to sell them a boat trip or something and typical of them they were haggling like fcuk with no intention of buying it,anyways it turned a bit nasty and they pushed him into a stand outside a shop and went on down the road laughing,I happened to make eye contact with him when he got up and just gave a shake of my head,but this fella had a look of pure evil,I remember saying to my mate "that's not over" and off he went to get his entourage who passed by us with axes and sticks on they're way to catch up with them....somehow I don't think krav maga was going to help them that night.

end of the road

Orangebrigade wrote: »

It is a lost cause and I don't know why they bother, they aren't getting a state. What are they trying to teach us with the Irish tri colour? That they are on the side of losers in history? As that is what it basically amounts to.

they will get a state. israel will either explode or implode one day. overthrowing the sectarian paracitic orange statelet in NI was indeed a win.

Nodin

the evasion_kid wrote: »

Myself and a friend were sitting in a restaurant that opened out onto the street I think it was in koh samui and a group of them came down the road,some Thai young fella was trying to sell them a boat trip or something and typical of them they were haggling like fcuk with no intention of buying it,anyways it turned a bit nasty and they pushed him into a stand outside a shop and went on down the road laughing,I happened to make eye contact with him when he got up and just gave a shake of my head,but this fella had a look of pure evil,I remember saying to my mate "that's not over" and off he went to get his entourage who passed by us with axes and sticks on they're way to catch up with them....somehow I don't think krav maga was going to help them that night.

The song of the Thai people does not include the words "take crap from you" by all accounts.

Isn't krav maga designed for use on old women and people having guns pointed at them?

the evasion_kid

the evasion_kid wrote: »

Myself and a friend were sitting in a restaurant that opened out onto the street I think it was in koh samui and a group of them came down the road,some Thai young fella was trying to sell them a boat trip or something and typical of them they were haggling like fcuk with no intention of buying it...

Bet none of that happened, and you and your friend were drunk and brawling cos the child benefit money was running low?

I mean, you are an Irish person stereotyping Jewish people as being money mad, aren't you?

the evasion_kid

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Bet none of that happened, and you and your friend were drunk and brawling cos the child benefit money was running low?

I mean, you are an Irish person stereotyping Jewish people as being money mad, aren't you?

No Israelis are just a55holes...a generalisation...but I'll stand by it...with of course the odd exception

the evasion_kid

the evasion_kid wrote: »

No Israelis are just a55holes...a generalisation...but I'll stand by it...with of course the odd exception

Oh no, after all you met some of them in...where was it again...Thailand?

Speaking of generalisations, you probably hate that one about fellows who go to Thailand and what they're really after!

the evasion_kid

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Oh no, after all you met some of them in...where was it again...Thailand?

Speaking of generalisations, you probably hate that one about fellows who go to Thailand and what they're really after!

South america too....wouldn't know anything about that...plenty of willing backpacker ladies

steddyeddy

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Not fond of the Irish? I'd certainly take that as a compliment. In fact, I'd be very, very worried if they liked us.

No they're not really. I've known Irish people who traveled to Israel and get a hard time over it.

Nodin

steddyeddy wrote: »

No they're not really. I've known Irish people who traveled to Israel and get a hard time over it.

In what sense or form, might I ask?

steddyeddy

Nodin wrote: »

In what sense or form, might I ask?

A friend of mine plays in a band alongside other Europeans. He's the only one from Ireland and anytime they go to Israel he's the only one who's stopped again and again. He's also asked is he a republican.

Nodin

steddyeddy wrote: »

A friend of mine plays in a band alongside other Europeans. He's the only one from Ireland and anytime they go to Israel he's the only one who's stopped again and again. He's also asked is he a republican.

Ty.

steddyeddy

I meant to say he's stopped at the airport.

LordSutch

the evasion_kid wrote: »

No Israelis are just a55holes...a generalisation...but I'll stand by it...with of course the odd exception

Maybe? but they are a product of their geography, hemmed in as they are by hostile neighbours.

end of the road

LordSutch wrote: »

Maybe? but they are a product of their geography, hemmed in as they are by hostile neighbours.

well thats what they get for living where they do because a book said so. on land that a book said they must have

Nodin

LordSutch wrote: »

Maybe? but they are a product of their geography, hemmed in as they are by hostile neighbours.

...many of them are becoming the product of their own occupation. To occupy requires brutality. Do it often enough and long enough and there is a very good chance you will become a brute. A number of Israelis have written on the subject.

Iwasfrozen

end of the road wrote: »

well thats what they get for living where they do because a book said so. on land that a book said they must have

It's a bit more complicated than that and you know it. Jews are far more native to the Levant than Arabs.

Azalea

Any Israelis I know (granted, not many) are lovely people. I wouldn't assume most Israelis are aggressive as the state and military. I'd say it's more like most of them are just ordinary normal people trying to get on with their own lives.

end of the road

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

It's a bit more complicated than that and you know it. Jews are far more native to the Levant than Arabs.

its actually a bit more simple then what i wrote and you know it.