deactivated gun

nickyl1

got an old single barrel hammer action shotgun that was owned by my cousin for years deactivated by paul walsh in gorey and he left it so the opening lever and the hammer are just loose and do nothing and the gun doesnt stay closed and the hole where the firing pin was drilled out is so big that when you close the gun the ejector gets caught in the hole, the gun didnt need to be deactivated to this extent did it ?

juice1304

no, not really, he simply could have drilled 6 holes in the barrel, welded a pin in the barrel welded the firing pin hole cut the bolt etc.. the same way as its done here in germany they can still dryfire then etc..

Cass

nickyl1 wrote: »

....... the gun didnt need to be deactivated to this extent did it ?

As it's never going to be used again what difference does it make in regard to the level of deactivation?

Deactivation, to me, means that the gun is altered to the extent that it can never be used again. It's why anyone thinking of having it done needs to consider it carefully before having it done. I mean if it was a half arsed job that could be undone by anyone with a basic understanding of what needs done it'd make deactivation pointless.

outdoors247

Surely you would want the gun to stay closed .I mean that wouldent be a danger to leave the gun closing properly

nickyl1

could a mod close the thread please

renas

guys i heard there is a shop in ireland who are selling deactivated guns, can anyone point my on to website or name of it, appreciate

Grizzly 45

By rights under the new EU law that now has to be sent to the UK to be certified as a correct proof house standard deactivation. In fact under EU law now the gun shouldnt even open in any shape or form,nor can the hammer cock.In fact it should be a noe nothing better than a high tech and awkward club.:rolleyes:
Thats just in case you want to sell it of course or inherit it to anyone else in your fammily:rolleyes:Or in case your local ISIS terrorist needs one to convrt for a mass shooting someplace.:rolleyes:

renas

well its so stupid since irish have nothing to do with it ,laws are of he reality here already so having this kinda bull**** and restricting those who just love firearms are total bulls crap, lets remember .. first of all people are killing others not guns, why the **** they need deactivated guns if they can get anything they want already, its freaking proven guys, just look around !!!!!

Gatling

Have a look at hobbyairsoft they had some nice denix guns recently based in Ballymonunt in Dublin

renas

thanks mate, will do

gunny123

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

By rights under the new EU law that now has to be sent to the UK to be certified as a correct proof house standard deactivation. In fact under EU law now the gun shouldnt even open in any shape or form,nor can the hammer cock.In fact it should be a noe nothing better than a high tech and awkward club.:rolleyes:
Thats just in case you want to sell it of course or inherit it to anyone else in your fammily:rolleyes:Or in case your local ISIS terrorist needs one to convrt for a mass shooting someplace.:rolleyes:

Whats going to happen when the uk are finally out of the eu ? Does it go to Germany instead ?

A friend of the boss was into amateur dramatics, he asked a gundealer he knew if he would sell him an old deactivated shotgun. The dealer gave him a perfect single barrel and told him to deactivate it himself. He was like a duck in thunder going around with a live shotgun in the back of the car. Anyway he brought it into the job, and i milled a 10mm wide slot in the barrel the length the fore end covered, welded up the firing pin hole and welded a lump of steel into the middle of the barrel.
He brought the thing to the local cop shop and they were happy for him to have it.

plinker66

New standards for deactivation of firearms. Here is one that the FCP weren't informed about
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32018R0337&from=EN

Grizzly 45

Those deact standards are already being questioned in the UK and are causing problems already EU wide.
The FCP mightnt have heard of them but Firearms United had that info on the thread "more crap on the way" over a year ago here on boards.ie.
But then again if FU Irl might be considerd for a position on the FCP...The FCP wouldnt be so uninformed of events in the EU.😕

BattleCorp

^^^^^^^^

TO be fair, the FCP would have no say on this regulation.

Once a regulation is agreed at EU level, that's it. Done and dusted. It has to be transcribed into National legislation no matter how p1ssed off we are.

Grizzly 45

They might have had a say if they had known WTF is going on at the EU level..Instead of squabbling like a bunch of bitches and throwing lawsuits at each other and trying to be the king of the hill.Seems no one can get it into their heads, that the decisions are being made on the EU level and not at the Dail anymore .

Grizzly 45

gunny123 wrote: »

Whats going to happen when the UK are finally out of the EU? Does it go to Germany instead?

A friend of the boss was into amateur dramatics, he asked a gun dealer he knew if he would sell him an old deactivated shotgun. The dealer gave him a perfect single barrel and told him to deactivate it himself. He was like a duck in thunder going around with a live shotgun in the back of the car. Anyway, he brought it into the job, and I milled a 10mm wide slot in the barrel the length the fore end covered, welded up the firing pin hole and welded a lump of steel into the middle of the barrel.
He brought the thing to the local cop shop and they were happy for him to have it.

The first part, if we don't have someone capable of deacting stuff in Ireland, probably send it to an EU country that can do it.And issue paperwork for this as well. Second, the job you did is totally fine by anyone's standard.That's an old spec UK or German deact.BUT not good enough for the EU nowadays.Now it must be welded up so much,it would be a high tech ungainly club!And you must, of course, provide an EU acceptable cert that it is so!Lest Abdul, the terrorist acquires it and reactivates it!If he is that good, why not just build a SBBL from scratch with less hassle?:rolleyes: But what can you expect from a bunch of Socialist micromanaging burro crats who dictate our vacuum cleaners power,or bananas and cucumbers straightness, and whether your grannies pot of jam sold at the village fair is a preserve or a jam??

plinker66

Min cost of compliance to deactivate to these standards will be 250 to 300 euro. So no more holding on to grandpappies old shotgun as a keepsake without paying well for the privilege

Grizzly 45

No, you can keep it as such, but if you sell, loan, or inherit it.It has to be new spec EU deact certified.IOW,can you see lots of people lining up across the EU to comply with this??:rolleyes:

garrettod

It's regulation like this, that discourages people from complying with regulation :rolleyes:

Laws and rules should me made easy to abide by, without significant cost or inconvenience to those who are asked to obey them. Pretty simple stuff really....