****e reasons for banning vaping in pubs

Gez69

So, went to my local today with an extra spring in my step because I just got my new iStick and Nautilus Mini (it's beautiful!). No sooner did I put the thing to my lips, however, was I urgently informed that they no longer allow vaping because they'd had a group of people in on Saturday night (arsehole night) who were all vaping except one among them who was actually smoking. Ban the arsehole smoking then, I hear you reasonably exclaim? Nope, just ban vaping altogether. Thank you and good night, I won't be going there again:mad:

GrayFox208

Gez69 wrote: »

So, went to my local today with an extra spring in my step because I just got my new iStick and Nautilus Mini (it's beautiful!). No sooner did I put the thing to my lips, however, was I urgently informed that they no longer allow vaping because they'd had a group of people in on Saturday night (arsehole night) who were all vaping except one among them who was actually smoking. Ban the arsehole smoking then, I hear you reasonably think? Nope, just ban vaping altogether. Thank you and good night, I won't be going there again:mad:

That's madness.

LeinsterDub

Gez69 wrote: »

So, went to my local today with an extra spring in my step because I just got my new iStick and Nautilus Mini (it's beautiful!). No sooner did I put the thing to my lips, however, was I urgently informed that they no longer allow vaping because they'd had a group of people in on Saturday night (arsehole night) who were all vaping except one among them who was actually smoking. Ban the arsehole smoking then, I hear you reasonably think? Nope, just ban vaping altogether. Thank you and good night, I won't be going there again:mad:

I don't get it. He was smoking in the pub? Or what?

Gez69

LeinsterDub wrote: »

I don't get it. He was smoking in the pub? Or what?

Yeah he was with the group who were all vaping and he was craftily smoking thinking he wouldn't be noticed or something.
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GrayFox208

These are the kind of pricks who say things like "j wouldn't use them yokes sure who knows what's in them like!!!!!"

seachto7

As a non smoker who gigs in pubs I can't stand the stink of e cigs. Horrible sweet smelling ones. I had to move away from two who were puffing away. I didn't say anything but think they should not be allowed at a bar but in a designated area.

sonny.knowles

Gez69 wrote: »

Yeah he was with the group who were all vaping and he was craftily smoking thinking he wouldn't be noticed or something.
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Sneaky f***ers.

GrayFox208

seachto7 wrote: »

As a non smoker who gigs in pubs I can't stand the stink of e cigs. Horrible sweet smelling ones. I had to move away from two who were puffing away. I didn't say anything but think they should not be allowed at a bar but in a designated area.

Better sweet than burned tobacco and paper. Some people in fairness are a little less self aware of where they are exhaling but you'll get the pricks. But it's not on to ban it because one sneaky cnut was trying to hide the fact he was smoking which is illegal.

seachto7

GrayFox208 wrote:

Better sweet than burned tobacco and paper.

True. I just found it have me a headache . A really sweet smell

Gez69

seachto7 wrote: »

As a non smoker who gigs in pubs I can't stand the stink of e cigs. Horrible sweet smelling ones. I had to move away from two who were puffing away. I didn't say anything but think they should not be allowed at a bar but in a designated area.

I wouldn't mind so much if they'd banned because people complained of the smell. People have always vaped here with no complaints though.

the untitled user

seachto7 wrote: »

True. I just found it have me a headache . A really sweet smell

Sounds like 90% of women's perfumes.

...And Justice

As someone that vapes, I think vaping should be banned in pubs. I have been used to going outside with the crowd for years and it doesn't bother me. Some of the liquids are quite smelly, liqua French pipe or Turkish is revolting to smell but beautiful to smoke.

All it takes are a few arseholes to ruin it for everyone

OldMrBrennan83

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GrayFox208

...And Justice wrote: »

As someone that vapes, I think vaping should be banned in pubs. I have been used to going outside with the crowd for years and it doesn't bother me. Some of the liquids are quite smelly, liqua French pipe or Turkish is revolting to smell but beautiful to smoke.

All it takes are a few arseholes to ruin it for everyone

It's a fair reason too. The owner could get in big trouble if people are acting the dick

Gez69

It's a real downer for me because I hate the whole thing of having to go outside to smoke or vape. When I was a smoker I would stay outside in all weathers so that I could just drink and smoke because I hate to just drink. So the vaping has been such a god send, to drink and vape in the comfort of a warm pub, but now I'm being forced out in the cold again. I know, everybody say ahhh. Staying at home now until the summer : (

macker33

seachto7 wrote: »

As a non smoker who gigs in pubs I can't stand the stink of e cigs. Horrible sweet smelling ones. I had to move away from two who were puffing away. I didn't say anything but think they should not be allowed at a bar but in a designated area.

Too bad and tough luck,
maybe i dont like womens perfume, think its ok that i should look for perfume to be banned? Maybe people with deodorant should be sent to a designated area.
Spoilt, trying to make rules for other people.

GrayFox208

macker33 wrote: »

Too bad and tough luck,
maybe i dont like womens perfume, think its ok that i should look for perfume to be banned? Maybe people with deodorant should be sent to a designated area.
Spoilt, trying to make rules for other people.

In fairness if someone doesn't like the smell of cigarettes you wouldn't say too bad and tough luck. Not everyone likes the smell and in a public place where not smoking/vaping is more socially exclusive than the latter really you should go outside. If someone asks me not to use it indoors I will oblige just out of general niceness.

JH_raheny

If they don't like me vaping in their pub then I don't like spending my money there and I go somewhere else, seem to always the worst anti-smokers that are also against vaping and I don't listen to the I get a head ache and it smells comments, I mean what's next, perfume, smelly feet, please don't fart, don't go for an after work beer but **** off home and have a shower before you're welcome here with your money

Trond

It'll always be possible to stealth vape with the right device and theres also always the door jacks ! I tend to vape outside so it doesnt bother me too much. Ive an ego one mini for the stealth side of things

Didihno

I think a vaping ban is coming, unfortunate for us but its unavoidable.
Even if the real science is proving second hand vape is perfectly fine, they'll ban due to 'nuisance' to the customers. And for those of who are still allowed to vape in our chosen establishments, please be respectful of others. Don't blow your vape into peoples faces.
For me, I'll vape where I can until I can't. And then I'll stop spending my money in pubs.
I like to drink nice beer, I like to vape. Its pretty much getting to the point that nice beer is disgracefully expensive anyway. For the odd time I go 'out out', I'll vape with the smokers.

Shinobollo

GrayFox208 wrote: »

In fairness if someone doesn't like the smell of cigarettes you wouldn't say too bad and tough luck. Not everyone likes the smell and in a public place where not smoking/vaping is more socially exclusive than the latter really you should go outside. If someone asks me not to use it indoors I will oblige just out of general niceness.

Hi
Are you the same Grayfox208 / Snake /calmdownbrah - that stiffed a number of contributors to this forum last year ?

If not apologies, but the user name is unusual enough to stick in the mind.

GrayFox208

Shinobollo wrote: »

Hi
Are you the same Grayfox208 / Snake /calmdownbrah - that stiffed a number of contributors to this forum last year ?

If not apologies, but the user name is unusual enough to stick in the mind.

Hi! No. Never had an account on boards before. I use GrayFox208 for everything! Adverts, email, etc. I don't find it unusual. Don't know what happened but it's not me that done it anyway man.

seachto7

macker33 wrote:

maybe i dont like womens perfume, think its ok that i should look for perfume to be banned? Maybe people with deodorant should be sent to a designated area.

If they're spraying it around the pub, yeah they should. Not a fan of people puffing their vaping dirty air in my face

Nichard Dixon

GrayFox208 wrote: »

Better sweet than burned tobacco and paper. Some people in fairness are a little less self aware of where they are exhaling but you'll get the pricks. But it's not on to ban it because one sneaky cnut was trying to hide the fact he was smoking which is illegal.

No need for either sweet or burned tobacco and paper.

QuinDixie

i am an ex smoker, never used e cigs. i have no issue with e cigs in pubs, cafes etc. I dont see why people have issues with vaping, if it helps people quit smoking, which is what society wants.
But the government is dreaming of ways to regulate and tax, so all vapers should hit the pub and enjoy this period of liberation.

Haznat

It all comes down to people being arseholes. Same mentality as people that don't own a car thinking no one should own a car or people who make shag all money thinking everyone else shouldn't make money either. Pure bitterness toward their fellow man.

JH_raheny

seachto7 wrote: »

If they're spraying it around the pub, yeah they should. Not a fan of people puffing their vaping dirty air in my face

You are aware that due to the pg/vg the exhaled air from a vaper is actually cleaner than what you exhale from just breathing

desbrook

While vaping is better for your health than smoking it's still nicotine addiction - a pointless and costly addiction. Finally after years of battling nicotine addiction via smoking and seeing results are we to reinvent it via vaping ?? No thanks . As an exsmoker I want the same controls on it. No advertising, no vaping in pubs and no glamourisation.

JH_raheny

desbrook wrote: »

While vaping is better for your health than smoking it's still nicotine addiction - a pointless and costly addiction. Finally after years of battling nicotine addiction via smoking and seeing results are we to reinvent it via vaping ?? No thanks . As an exsmoker I want the same controls on it. No advertising, no vaping in pubs and no glamourisation.

it's not costly at all as long as it doesn't get hit with mega taxes, I made a litre of liquid a few weeks back costing me 15 quid, that would last even the heaviest of vapers months,and for the addiction of nicotine itself it is no more addictive or harmfull than coffee, reason the ciggies are so hard to quit is all the other chemicals they mix in with the nicotine/tobacco in them to make them extra addictive.
Wether it is a pointless addiction or not can be discussed but it is just your opinion

QuinDixie

desbrook wrote: »

While vaping is better for your health than smoking it's still nicotine addiction - a pointless and costly addiction. Finally after years of battling nicotine addiction via smoking and seeing results are we to reinvent it via vaping ?? No thanks . As an exsmoker I want the same controls on it. No advertising, no vaping in pubs and no glamourisation.

there is nothing worse than a reformed whore.
they have given up smokes, so the fun stops for all smokers.

the untitled user

desbrook wrote: »

While vaping is better for your health than smoking it's still nicotine addiction - a pointless and costly addiction.

Actually you're wrong here. Nicotine in it's pure form is still a mild carcinogen but then so is everything you fry or cook in an oven. But increasingly we're beginning to see that it has a number of proven positive cognitive and mental health effects, I believe it's actually being explored in the treatment of Alzheimer's.

Arek

I always go outside to vape.

desbrook

QuinDixie wrote: »

there is nothing worse than a reformed whore.
they have given up smokes, so the fun stops for all smokers.

Fun ? What fun ? Being a nonsmoker is way more fun. I feel as satisfied as I used to just after a smoke all the time now. More money and feel better generally. I'm genuinely not trying to take anything from anyone.

JH_raheny

Maybe try and scroll back a bit and read out loud to yourself your last posts and then open your mind and look a bit further that the tip of your own nose

Gez69

desbrook wrote: »

Fun ? What fun ? Being a nonsmoker is way more fun. I feel as satisfied as I used to just after a smoke all the time now. More money and feel better generally. I'm genuinely not trying to take anything from anyone.

Just curious, why are you on a vaping forum?

sangsung

seachto7 wrote: »

As a non smoker who gigs in pubs I can't stand the stink of e cigs. Horrible sweet smelling ones. I had to move away from two who were puffing away. I didn't say anything but think they should not be allowed at a bar but in a designated area.

True. I hate when people say they don't smell. They fecking do.

Even my vape smells, and I vape unflavoured!

JH_raheny

everything has some kinda smell or odour but it seem like some people think it is ok to witch hunt on vaping because of a similarity to smoking

sangsung

JH_raheny wrote: »

everything has some kinda smell or odour but it seem like some people think it is ok to witch hunt on vaping because of a similarity to smoking

No. Some vape juices smell like rotten filthy socks, particularly the more expensive or "authentic" tobacco flavours. I vape, and I don't think it should be allowed everywhere.

In my case, my office mate vapes strawberry milkshake, and I'm getting a bit sick of the smell.

JH_raheny

Fair enough that YOU don't like the smell but should he also stop eating certain types of food in the office if YOU didn't like the smell of them.

Trond

Have soapbox, willing to travel :pac:

Shinobollo

We seem to have this argument / discussion every couple of months and there's never a "Winner"
Personally, I'd like to see a number of ridiculously expensive "high quality" perfumes and aftershaves banned indoors as they get right up my nose - so to speak.

It's really just a case of different strokes for different folks.

Now would ye all just pi$$ off and let me enjoy me pint and me vape in peace. :-p

Gez69

Oh my God, I can SMELL something!!!

Ban all noses.

JH_raheny

True, these arguments are like running in the special olympics. .. even if you win you're still retarded

moleyv

I always go outside. One group of friends, everyone smokes, so I'm outside all the time. The other group, none smoke or vape., so I don't want to be the one person inside vaping.

I don't care if people vape indoors, although I could see if someone was blowing huge clouds it would be a bit rude.

As for smell, I'd be more offended by a west coast cooler or a Guinness fart.

Peanut Butter

Everyone should just get along! if someone doesn't like it you shouldn't do it beside them if someone is beside you and you don't like them doing it ask them to stop! Everyone can get along that way no one likes being beside a smell they hate.

sangsung

JH_raheny wrote: »

Fair enough that YOU don't like the smell but should he also stop eating certain types of food in the office if YOU didn't like the smell of them.

I don't eat Asian takeaways in the office, because the place smells like vinegary **** afterwards.

Same reason I don't vape in the office. One colleague said to me "this place smells of rotten socks". So I stopped vaping my fave flavour.

Maybe you enjoy the smell of your vape, same way you used to enjoy your 20 benson clogging up your house. But it's still rude to blow that **** all over an enclosed space.

Celly Smunt

Surely it's just common courtesy not to vape in anyone's direction or vape in anyway that could impede on a non vaper?

Fine it smells, but I think we're also forgetting the effect of the vapour itself. The stuff forms fecking clouds indoors, and if I didn't vape the smell and the visual aspect of the act would irritate me.

We all used to have to step outside to have a smoke, I don't think that habit should generally be ignored. I never vape indoors anywhere, mainly because I'm chucking out clouds on my devices but also because its spreading into other people's space regardless of how ineffective it is to people health wise, its an irritant in a mental sense.

I don't think we should vape indoors just because we can, I think we should vape outdoors because its polite not to impede on peoples space.

As a vaper, I'd welcome an indoor ban but I'm not chasing for one. There's a time and a place for vaping and the office desk most certainly isn't one of them, not a hope I'd allow it in my workplace.

I should probably also add that I generally constantly stink of a bakery due to vaping, so it probably wouldn't matter if I vaped or not indoors, you'd smell me from the other end of the pub anyway.

neckedit

Reformed smoker, off them for 6 years...... miss them on a daily basis.
Would never use an E Cigarette. ....
I look like a big enough knob as it is......

_Brian

I'm a lifelong non smoker and the smoking ban was a dream come true. I would have chest problems and passive smoke would be a serious irritant.
I've not noticed any reaction to vamping smoke as in general it's very few vap indoors. However the smell of these things is very bad, often sickly sweet stomach churning stuff.

The problem I see is that some people vaping indoors are somehow feeling like they have beaten the system and arragantly puff the smoke into everyone's faces - like spoiled kids.

More and more places are banning it and TBH I'd welcome it.

bd2012

Ex 30 a day smoker for over a year thanks to vaping. Don't miss them at all. On a negligible amount of nicotine at this stage having dropped from 12 to 3 mg thanks to the customisable nature of the Vape experience. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

Back on topic I do tend to check with owner/ bar person first and respect their decision. If I can Vape I do it discreetly.

Gez69

My thread seems to have brought out the self righteous anti vapeing crew; what fun guys they are!