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F...ing HSE inspectors

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    #32
    Kev W
    Registered Users Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭Kev W


    Penn wrote: »
    No, "didn't bother" would indicate that he didn't care if she was over 18 or not. "Presuming" implies he made a judgement call.

    Again, he was wrong both in doing so and in his judgement call, but I absolutely fail to see why you're treating him more harshly than someone who knowingly sold cigarettes to a 10 year old.

    Because the person who sold the cigarettes to a 10 year old had confirmed that they would be consumed by an adult. The OP'S did not.

    Also, as has been pointed out by others, referring to the people as "gob****es" when they did their job and the OP failed to do his is hardly conducive to sympathy.

    Did the OP think we would all pile on the inspectors for successfully doing their jobs?


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    #33
    overcharged
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 46 ✭overcharged


    Mr glorious gobs....te <snip> was the inspector on that terrible day.
    Now it's my turn to see if he obeys the law.
    Gonna follow him up in every detail.
    Road tax, insurance, tv licence etc
    I will be good citizen :)

    By the way I have no sympathy for
    smokers the sooner they die the better
    for the rest of society.


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    #34
    Deathwish4
    Registered Users Posts: 285 ✭✭Deathwish4


    All sympathy for the OP out the window now..


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    #35
    kidneyfan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭kidneyfan


    overcharged wrote: »
    Mr glorious gobs....te <SNIP>was the inspector on that terrible day.
    Now it's my turn to see if he obeys the law.
    Gonna follow him up in every detail.
    Road tax, insurance, tv licence etc
    I will be good citizen :)

    By the way I have no sympathy for
    smokers the sooner they die the better
    for the rest of society.
    Why are you angry with the inspector instead of the boss who scapegoated you?


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    #36
    overcharged
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 46 ✭overcharged


    Because he was initially the person who envisioned
    the whole successful situation.


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    #37
    Kirk Van Houten
    Registered Users Posts: 780 ✭✭✭Kirk Van Houten


    overcharged wrote:
    Mr glorious gobs....te <snip> was the inspector on that terrible day. Now it's my turn to see if he obeys the law. Gonna follow him up in every detail. Road tax, insurance, tv licence etc I will be good citizen


    Really showing everyone who the gobshoite is alright.

    If it was me I'd be more worried about getting a new job than seeking some sort of vengeance or revenge on someone who did their job properly in the first place - unlike yourself.


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    #38
    Kimbot
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,576 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    overcharged wrote: »
    Mr glorious gobs....te <SNIP>was the inspector on that terrible day.
    Now it's my turn to see if he obeys the law.
    Gonna follow him up in every detail.
    Road tax, insurance, tv licence etc
    I will be good citizen :)

    By the way I have no sympathy for
    smokers the sooner they die the better
    for the rest of society.

    So you would like me to Die eh?


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    #39
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,711 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Kev W wrote: »
    Because the person who sold the cigarettes to a 10 year old had confirmed that they would be consumed by an adult. The OP'S did not.

    http://www.hse.ie/eng/services/list/1/environ/Tobacco_Control.html

    It is illegal to sell tobacco products to anyone under the age of 18 years, even if they are for someone else.


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    #40
    Kimbot
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    Penn wrote: »
    http://www.hse.ie/eng/services/list/1/environ/Tobacco_Control.html

    It is illegal to sell tobacco products to anyone under the age of 18 years, even if they are for someone else.

    Yes but re-read what what in the article:

    The man's supervisor wrote in her statement that she told Mr Keogh he should not have sold the cigarettes "even though we both knew they were for her mother sitting in the car".

    So the supervisor admitted he knew the cigs were for someone else. Its up to the shop to sack the employee not the HSE.


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    #41
    overcharged
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 46 ✭overcharged


    I'm not looking for the job now, not for today anyway.
    His job was to control of tabacco sales.
    My volunteer job would be to find any
    detail in misconduct
    from this.


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    #42
    JohnC.
    Registered Users Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    Duiske wrote: »
    They can't throw the book at him/her. Its the business owners who are open to prosecution, not the staff.

    This is untrue. Both the owners and the individual who sold it can be prosecuted.


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    #43
    L1011
    Registered Users Posts: 68,848 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    overcharged wrote: »
    I'm not looking for the job now, not for today anyway.
    His job was to control of tabacco sales.
    My volunteer job would be to find any
    detail in misconduct
    from this.

    He did his job, properly
    You screwed up your job, hugely

    Go get another job and get over it


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    #44
    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,497 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Good to see this being enforced, sucks for OP but then he/she didn't do their job when they sold the product to somebody under age.


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    #45
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,711 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    jonny24ie wrote: »
    Yes but re-read what what in the article:

    The man's supervisor wrote in her statement that she told Mr Keogh he should not have sold the cigarettes "even though we both knew they were for her mother sitting in the car".

    So the supervisor admitted he knew the cigs were for someone else. Its up to the shop to sack the employee not the HSE.

    I'm not disputing that. I'm saying that in both cases, the employees sold to someone who was underage. In OP's case (even though he's now lost all sympathy from me with his latest posts), he thought the customer was over 18 and took the chance instead of asking for ID. In the case linked to with Mr.Keogh, the customer was 10 years old.


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    #46
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    My sympathy with the op has wained somewhat


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    #47
    overcharged
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 46 ✭overcharged


    Moreover I think that idiots like chain smokers
    damage themselves and die directly from
    results of smoking related illnesses.


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    #48
    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,497 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    overcharged wrote: »
    By the way there would be no problem if someone
    over 18 bought 66 packs of cigarettes?
    F....ing ridiculous.

    Course there wouldn't be....because the person over 18 is an adult and it is legal.

    You don't see an issue with selling drink or cigs to somebody who isn't an adult, what the heck is wrong with you?


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    #49
    kidneyfan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭kidneyfan


    overcharged wrote: »
    Moreover I think that idiots like chain smokers
    damage themselves and die directly from
    results of smoking related illnesses.
    So what? Just get another job and move on. The only person you should feel angry towards is your employer and that's only because you could get 10 grand out of this.


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    #50
    Kimbot
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,576 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    overcharged wrote: »
    Moreover I think that idiots like chain smokers
    damage themselves and die directly from
    results of smoking related illnesses.

    I have an idea for you, why dont you chain smoke ;)


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    #51
    wardides
    Registered Users Posts: 768 ✭✭✭wardides


    Is the Op the same Dutch lad who wanted to raise a family in a Porsche, on here last week? Striking similarities.


    Anyway, you're fault. Nobody else.


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    #52
    Kimbot
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,576 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Cabaal wrote: »
    Course there wouldn't be....because the person over 18 is an adult and it is legal.

    You don't see an issue with selling drink or cigs to somebody who isn't an adult, what the heck is wrong with you?

    This is exactly why he has no job now.


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    #53
    overcharged
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 46 ✭overcharged


    The law
    is truly ridicules.


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    #54
    Kev W
    Registered Users Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭Kev W


    overcharged wrote: »
    Moreover I think that idiots like chain smokers
    damage themselves and die directly from
    results of smoking related illnesses.

    Interesting theory. Cigarettes are bad for you, eh? You'd think someone would have brought it up before now.

    Best of luck stalking the inspector, that's probably going to work out really well for you.


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    #55
    Kimbot
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,576 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    overcharged wrote: »
    The law
    is truly ridicules.

    Pretty much like your spelling so.


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    #56
    overcharged
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 46 ✭overcharged


    By the way I sold the fags to the minor in hectic environment.
    It is not pretty straight forward, isn't it?


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    #57
    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,497 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    overcharged wrote: »
    Moreover I think that idiots like chain smokers
    damage themselves and die directly from
    results of smoking related illnesses.

    So because nobody took your side on getting fired for breaking the law you're going to throw toys out of the pram and call the smokers in this thread names?
    :rolleyes:

    Smoking causes smoking related health issues, no smoker is under no illusions about this. If they are then they've been living under a rock since the 1950's.

    But they are none the less adults and right now smoking is legal for somebody over 18 years of age. This may change over the next few decades of course but ironically upto a few days ago you had no problem making a wage off of setting a product you are being critical of.


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    #58
    Kev W
    Registered Users Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭Kev W


    overcharged wrote: »
    The law
    is truly ridicules.

    I would go so far as to call it preposteroise.

    So cigarettes are terrible but the law preventing the sale of cigarettes to minors is "ridicules"?


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    #59
    overcharged
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 46 ✭overcharged


    First of all dear english
    is my second langininiac so
    don't expect me to fully write
    in proper grammar :D


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    #60
    kidneyfan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭kidneyfan


    How long had you been working at that shop?


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    #61
    Kev W
    Registered Users Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭Kev W


    overcharged wrote: »
    By the way I sold the fags to the minor in hectic environment.
    It is not pretty straight forward, isn't it?

    "hectic environment "= a shop. Did you not know you would be working in a shop?

    What age are you?

    Was this your first job?


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