Opinions on this lexus is250?

simdan

Hachiko wrote:

from what you are saying it wouldn't seem you ever drove one let alone owned.

What are you smoking dude? You need to stop

simdan

XR3i wrote:

its the japanese Mercedes

Cheers Alan! Lol

XR3i

simdan wrote: »

Cheers Alan! Lol

your welcome

Hachiko

simdan wrote: »

What are you smoking dude? You need to stop

simdan wrote: »

Haha, I'm not young and crazy enough to take a risk on either of these old cars for over 8k.. New cars are far more reliable, just lease with warranty for stress free motoring.

you dont have a clue do you? A used is250 is one of the most reliable used cars you can buy (even if they are old now), pretty much bullet proof. What is this 'risk' you are on about?

maybe you are mixing it up with its diesel brother.

simdan

Hachiko wrote:

maybe you are mixing it up with its diesel brother.

Yes because getting an IS220d or 200d is just like the 250 petrol?? Hilarious! I know it's bullet proof, maybe because I came from an integra type R before it, it wasn't an interesting enough drive for me. I had it for 8 months.

Believe what you want. You obviously love the car and that's fine with me..

166man

*unsubscribes.....

Hachiko

HandsomeDan wrote: »

If you buy this, it is pretty much a given that you will upgrade to an IS-F within 12 months.

Considering how many people own a ISF, quite a good chunk of them have previously owned a IS250.

....................
Name: Mark
Lexus: Lexus IS-F
Year: 2011
Location: Wiltshire

Hello Guys,

Currently running an is250 f-sport, however I pick up my IS-F on Monday, cannot bloody wait!!

................

Name: Andy
Lexus: ISF
Year: 2011
Location: Hampshire
had a 250 before my F. I loved it but wanted something with more poke. Looks like I achieved that.

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Name: Paul
Lexus: IS-F 500
Year: 2008
Location: Essex

Can't list my history, it's way to long, but my Lexus history is
IS 200 sport
IS 300 aero sport
IS 250-SE-L
IS-F
Had an M3 Eco, mercs, audis, amongst them
Wife has a RAV4 t5, I also have an 89-MR-2 T-bar, mk 1 and a GSR750.

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some well constructed parting words from a former is250 owner, all of this would resonate with me pretty much.


'I sold my IS250 today, sad to see her go, but I wasn't doing the mileage to justify the tax & insurance cost :crybaby: . It's been a good three years though, and lots happened - nothing that would put me off buying a Lexus again mind.

I remember...
fitting new tyres, and being impressed with just how well it can handle on high end rubber
finally learning what comfortable car seats feel like, rather than the super stiff Audi/VW fare
getting stuck on an extremely icy hill, then buying winter tyres
seeing fuel economy numbers that put the official ones to shame, with 49.5 mpg tank average at one point
changing the oil, and noticing how much the engine likes fresh oil
having to deal with 'persuading' the slide pins in the process of cleaning and lubricating them - why is this not part of the standard maintenance routine
changing spark plugs, and finding that the engine bay is well put together and worth appreciating
thinking how good the car looks with clean, polished & waxed paint. I could tell my car in the car park as 'the shiny one'
seeing my driving mature as the car doesn't push you to 'go faster' all the time, although it certainly can when the time comes :whistling:
Best of all though has been the reliability. I've not had to replace any light bulb - interior or exterior, no electrical bugs or crunchy mechanisms, no odd idling, smelly exhausts or iffy handling. Sure, there's the minor noise from the dash that everyone has, but it's not enough to make me dislike it.

So now all I have left is an oil filter tool, my set of winter tyres, a few tabs for the door cards. I'll be putting the first two on eBay unless someone on here would like them (PM).

To anyone reading this forum wondering about whether Lexus make cars that are real competitors to Audi / BMW - they certainly do, and for UK roads they outperform (other than in magazine advert spend :msn-oh:). The IS250 may not be the last word in performance, but for 99% of the time it's easily enough, and having a reliable, comfortable car that makes you relax rather than suffer when you drive is not to be sniffed at.'

Now then, where's that GSF catalogue!

Noccy_Mondy

So that's another thread on the ruined list......

Hachiko

how is on the ruined list, providing some damned evidence against other posters too much for you?

Noccy_Mondy

Hachiko wrote: »

how is on the ruined list, providing some damned evidence against other posters too much for you?

No, just having to read through the same drivel thread after thread is quite starting to grind off me. If I was harping on about Ford all the time, I sure as hell would be told to fcuk off under a rock.

Hachiko

Well unsubscribe so, no one telling you to read this. You are just poking your nose into everything I say looking for some response. Now how about going under that rock yourself.

have you read the title of the thread?

"Opinions on this lexus is250"

simdan

Hachiko wrote:

how is on the ruined list, providing some damned evidence against other posters too much for you?

Hey dude. Why are all of the owners you mention in the UK? This is an Irish forum. How many ISFs are in Ireland?

Thanks

colm_mcm

hachiko, I remember when you had your 2.4 Accord, you talked as if it was the best car ever built. Even when you got your Lexus first you sang it's praises on the Lexus owners club (of which I am also a member) . Now you have the Lexus you sing it's praises yet never mention your Accord any more, even in threads about Accords.
If you change cars to something else - will this happen all over again?

Noccy_Mondy

I have remained passive in this whole debacle, I haven't "poked my nose into everything you say". The only reason you're here is to boast about an ISF, you seen Lexus in the title, so off you went.

We could have a thread about a passat, a micra, even a thread about why the sky is blue, yet you'd find a reason to rave about your Lexus.......

Hachiko

I don't see the problem here, I am discussing the merits of a Lexus? that's all. I also am looking to sell it for another car, with a v8. Its not like I am brainwashed by Lexus.

Too many people don't know anything about the brand and are making ill formed comments.

If people don't want to read they don't have to.

Hachiko

simdan wrote: »

Hey dude. Why are all of the owners you mention in the UK? This is an Irish forum. How many ISFs are in Ireland?

Thanks

almost Everyone in Ireland buys a diesel, not many own a is250.

The owners club is dedicated to people who actually own them and make comments on what they drive, be it critical or complimentary.

Discodog

I clicked on this by accident. I spent 10 years selling Mercs & BMWs. Borrow the car & take it to a dealer & see how much they would offer for it. I wouldn't buy it for 3 grand.

I never knew that Motors could be better than After Hours

simdan

Hachiko wrote:

I don't see the problem here, I am discussing the merits of a Lexus? that's all. I also am looking to sell it for another car, with a v8. Its not like I am brainwashed by Lexus.

Hachiko wrote:

Too many people don't know anything about the brand and are making ill formed comments.

Hachiko wrote:

If people don't want to read they don't have to.

Huh, your random statements above did not answer anyone's questions? Are you in Ireland? As I have said on multiple occasions, I've owned 2 IS's

Hachiko

colm_mcm wrote: »

hachiko, I remember when you had your 2.4 Accord, you talked as if it was the best car ever built. Even when you got your Lexus first you sang it's praises on the Lexus owners club (of which I am also a member) . Now you have the Lexus you sing it's praises yet never mention your Accord any more, even in threads about Accords.
If you change cars to something else - will this happen all over again?

I have praised the Accord in more than a few threads! I suggested links for a poster a while back on a 2.0 Accord which subsequently got sold.

Hachiko

simdan wrote: »

Huh, your random statements above did not answer anyone's questions? Are you in Ireland? As I have said on multiple occasions, I've owned 2 IS's

If you owned 2 Lexus IS's you should know more than any that they are extremely reliable cars and making comments on it against a S class is totally rubbish.

simdan

Discodog wrote:

I clicked on this by accident. I spent 10 years selling Mercs & BMWs. Borrow the car & take it to a dealer & see how much they would offer for it. I wouldn't buy it for 3 grand.

This was my point at the start of the thread, but these guys are adamant it's worth over 8k.. They are calling me crazy!

Hachiko

Its a well specced Lexus, providing it has had documented service its worth at last 7k euro, It will not cause you any mechanical woes like many other luxury mid range cars. It's probably one of the best specced lexus for sale in Ireland I would gather but the tax is the killer for most.

Making comparisons to barges that cost £100k new is just nonsense.

simdan

Hachiko wrote:

If you owned 2 Lexus IS's you should know more than any that they are extremely reliable cars and making comments on it against a S class is totally rubbish.

If you actually read my comments you will see I never compared it to an S class. How could I, they are nothing alike??

You need to focus and read properly.

I also never said that the car didn't have a reliable engine.

I just said that your valuations were way off and for the same money you think it's worth you could buy a car better car.

Calm down.

Hachiko

Discodog wrote: »

I clicked on this by accident. I spent 10 years selling Mercs & BMWs. Borrow the car & take it to a dealer & see how much they would offer for it. I wouldn't buy it for 3 grand.

I never knew that Motors could be better than After Hours

A dealer has offered me £6.5k GBP for my car just to let you know, albeit a year newer. I gather this type of car is not popular in Ireland due to tax but it should not deter any potential buyers from what is a very good car.

simdan

Hachiko wrote:

Making comparisons to barges that cost £100k new is just nonsense.

You are crazy, you haven't understood anything.. I never made this comparison. Seriously, what drugs are you on??

Discodog

Hachiko wrote: »

Its a well specced Lexus, providing it has had documented service its worth at last 7k euro, It will not cause you any mechanical woes like many other luxury mid range cars. It's probably one of the best specced lexus for sale in Ireland I would gather but the tax is the killer for most.

Making comparisons to barges that cost £100k new is just nonsense.

Comparing it to a 325 is bonkers too - hardly a luxury barge & with a good resale value.

The prices are entirely dependant on what people will pay. Generally if a car remains unsold for long it's too dear. Good value cars are snapped up.

Hachiko

simdan wrote: »

If you actually read my comments you will see I never compared it to an S class. How could I, they are nothing alike??

You need to focus and read properly.

I also never said that the car didn't have a reliable engine.

I just said that your valuations were way off and for the same money you think it's worth you could buy a car better car.

Calm down.

you said quite clearly if you had a choice over a S class or a old 2007 is250 you would take the S class all day.

Clearly two totally different cars and two totally different cars to run financially. You said why risk either and just get a lease on a new car instead which is fair enough, but there is not many risks associated with a is250 gen II. Apart from petrol I cant see any outlandish running costs and mine is, 'old' as you call it.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

Hachiko wrote: »

have you read the title of the thread?

"Opinions on this lexus is250"

Well my opinion of the is250 is as follows

A over glorified , overpriced Toyota. Driven a few new and old and don't like them at all.

There are much better cars out there at that price range.

simdan

Hachiko wrote:

you said quite clearly if you had a choice over a S class or a old 2007 is250 you would take the S class all day.

I said if I 'had to' make a decision of spending €8k between these cars I would buy the S500. I followed that by saying it was not a comparison as the two cars are nothing alike and that your valuations were way off.

Your car might be worth £6.5k in the UK. In Ireland there is absolutely no demand for an is250, especially at over 8k.

Understand now?

Hachiko

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

Well my opinion of the is250 is as follows

A over glorified , overpriced Toyota. Driven a few new and old and don't like them at all.

There are much better cars out there at that price range.

such as?

a 320d?

Hachiko

simdan wrote: »

I said if I 'had to' make a decision of spending €8k between these cars I would buy the S500. I followed that by saying it was not a comparison as the two cars are nothing alike and that your valuations were way off.

Your car might be worth £6.5k in the UK. In Ireland there is absolutely no demand for an is250, especially at over 8k.

Understand now?

clearly the OP was interested in one, so some people may actually appreciate a Lexus petrol with a 2.5 V6 over a diesel.

Its a sad state of affairs when the tax rate is such in a country that it forces everyone to buy a diesel car.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

Hachiko wrote: »

such as?

a 320d?

Now now..... this thread asked "opinion of this car" as i quoted you. Not any other car.

Now, i gave my opinion and that's the end of the story. No way should you be bashing down peoples opinions just because you don't agree with them.

simdan

Hachiko wrote:

clearly the OP was interested in one, so some people may actually appreciate a Lexus petrol with a 2.5 V6 over a diesel.

Hachiko wrote:

Its a sad state of affairs when the tax rate is such in a country that it forces everyone to buy a diesel car.

Now that's a comment. Exactly, I love petrol engines but tax in Ireland has always been huge for large engined cars. The majority of Ireland drive small petrols or a diesel, this has been the case for many many years. It is sad.

Hachiko

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

Now now..... this thread asked "opinion of this car" as i quoted you. Not any other car.

Now, i gave my opinion and that's the end of the story. No way should you be bashing down peoples opinions just because you don't agree with them.

its a valid argument, you said there are better cars which is fair enough comment.

Say that Lexus could be got for 7k euro, which would be pretty decent going. What cars are out there in that level of specification that would be better?

Uncle Ben

simdan wrote: »

??

Is this your car or something? Why are defending the value so much?

I sold my father's 9 year old Mercedes S500 for €5k. I'd was far better equipped and one of the best cars I've ever driven. A super car while sitting in a leather bound arm chair, Pure luxury! €5k was the best I could get for the car because of the running costs were high. The car cost over €100k new, doesn't mean it keeps that value. The people who can afford these cars, don't want an old car, they just replace them every 5 years or so. It's all basic economics.

Ctr - alt- 4 gives you the € sign.

Hachiko

Thats the best thing I learnt from this thread.

Discodog

Hachiko wrote: »

A dealer has offered me £6.5k GBP for my car just to let you know, albeit a year newer. I gather this type of car is not popular in Ireland due to tax but it should not deter any potential buyers from what is a very good car.

cash or px ? & if px what against ?

simdan

Uncle Ben wrote:

Ctr - alt- 4 gives you the € sign.

Yeah, for some reason it looks like this when I post from my phone.

The command is actually 'alt gr' and '4' for the euro sign.

Ctrl and alt gives you alt gr

Discodog

166man wrote: »

I understand the basic economics there chap, I do have an honors degree in the subject...;)

I think it'd be very harsh to offer €4-5k for s car like that. A comparable BMW 325 wouldn't go for that. Sometimes you have to pay more for the cleaner car in the better spec.

I actually am thinking of buying one of these as my next car and if that was the case Id be looking at that one. Might try to get it for a little less than €8k. If it's well minded and similar ones are around the 6-7k price bracket it's worth near to that imo.

You'd hardly go to view a €100k car and because it was a big powerful car with limited demand, offer €50k would you?

Sums up the attitude in Ireland. Afraid to offend ? If you think that the car is worth say 7000 & it's been on sale for weeks, you would be made to start the bidding at more than 4000.

kissmyface

Hachiko wrote: »

Thats the best thing I learnt from this thread.

Here is the best thing you will learn from this thread Hach "With a mere 204 brake-horse-power available, progress is too leisurely to be called fast, but on the motorway in 6th gear the Lexus slow pace really becomes a pain. Uphill runs become power-sappingly mundane, while overtaking National Express coaches can become a long, drawn-out affair.” Not my words, Hach. The words of Top Gear magazine"

simdan

kissmyface wrote:

Here is the best thing you will learn from this thread Hach "With a mere 204 brake-horse-power available, progress is too leisurely to be called fast, but on the motorway in 6th gear the Lexus slow pace really becomes a pain. Uphill runs become power-sappingly mundane, while overtaking National Express coaches can become a long, drawn-out affair.†Not my words, Hach. The words of Top Gear magazine"

Lol! Ah the memories of this car have all been brought back.

Lol, I cannot stop laughing. Thank you so much!

acronym Chilli

kissmyface wrote: »

Here is the best thing you will learn from this thread Hach "With a mere 204 brake-horse-power available, progress is too leisurely to be called fast, but on the motorway in 6th gear the Lexus slow pace really becomes a pain. Uphill runs become power-sappingly mundane, while overtaking National Express coaches can become a long, drawn-out affair.” Not my words, Hach. The words of Top Gear magazine"

So it really is a pretty lumpen agricultural sort of a beast?

For 8k I'd buy 8 x mk 2 fiat puntos giving a total of 520bhp(!!!), then I'd use them like a team of horses to pull a chariot in which I would ride like Ben hur. Spirito di Punto!

Also means at motorway services I can simultaneously provide 8 cigar lighters to my posse.

Discodog

Are all Lexus threads this good ? Any chance that someone could pm me when the next one appears :pac:

colm_mcm

this is getting a bit silly...