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    #1202
    AndyBoBandy
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,275 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Don't move your points from BA to Aer Lingus.

    on Aer Lingus they are worthless. You'll most likely end up spending more cash for a flight, just for the privilege of using your Avios.


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    #1203
    dudara
    Registered Users Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    I just checked my account and it looks like a lot of my missing flights have been credited. Just need to go back through now and double check. Puts me quite close to Concierge


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    #1204
    mel.b
    Registered Users Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭mel.b


    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    Don't move your points from BA to Aer Lingus.

    on Aer Lingus they are worthless. You'll most likely end up spending more cash for a flight, just for the privilege of using your Avios.

    Can someone look up for me and tell me how much a GVA - SNN one way would be in AerClub?


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    #1205
    MayoSalmon
    Registered Users Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭MayoSalmon


    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    Don't move your points from BA to Aer Lingus.

    on Aer Lingus they are worthless. You'll most likely end up spending more cash for a flight, just for the privilege of using your Avios.

    Relax...you can move your Avios back and forth from BA to EI and vice versa as many times as you like


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    #1206
    AndyBoBandy
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,275 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    MayoSalmon wrote: »
    Relax...you can move your Avios back and forth from BA to EI and vice versa as many times as you like

    Yes you can, but it doesn't change the fact they are absolutely worthless on Aer Lingus though does it?

    And I an perfectly relaxed, but thanks all the same.


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    #1207
    AndyBoBandy
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    dudara wrote: »
    I just checked my account and it looks like a lot of my missing flights have been credited. Just need to go back through now and double check. Puts me quite close to Concierge

    I too am quite close to Concierge!

    We shall join forces, and look down upon the plebs together from an ivory tower.


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    #1208
    AndyBoBandy
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,275 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Cant even log into Avios.com as it keeps asking me to verify my details, which I keep doing, yet it keeps telling me it's invalid!!

    F**king joke of a system


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    #1209
    crisco10
    Registered Users Posts: 6,195 ✭✭✭crisco10


    How long does it take for the Silver packs to be sent out? I got notification on 13th June that I was Silver, but how long until I get the card in the post?

    Also, do you have to be getting an Aer Lingus flight to use the lounge/fast track?


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    #1210
    ironclaw
    Registered Users Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    crisco10 wrote: »
    Also, do you have to be getting an Aer Lingus flight to use the lounge/fast track?

    Yes.

    All airlines insist you are flying with them or one of their members to use their perks e.g. If you are flying Lufthansa and are a Senator, you are Star Alliance Gold, and hence would have access to an Air Canada or United lounge.

    With EI, you'd need to platinum to use a partner Lounge, which I assume is just BA lounges?


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    #1211
    jesus_thats_gre
    Registered Users Posts: 17,441 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    They told me a few weeks ago on Twitter that this couldn't be done!!

    Avios are worthless in most cases (I looked at a few random flights and it worked out more expensive to book it with cash + Avios, as opposed to just cash only)
    .

    Was going to transfer a chunk from my BA account - in the hope that I could upgrade a transatlantic flight later in the summer.

    Shall continue grinding on BA so.


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    #1212
    MayoSalmon
    Registered Users Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭MayoSalmon


    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    Yes you can, but it doesn't change the fact they are absolutely worthless on Aer Lingus though does it?

    And I an perfectly relaxed, but thanks all the same.

    They hold the exact same intrinsic value

    Have a read of this to better inform yourself on how to get value for your Avios

    http://www.headforpoints.com/


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    #1213
    MayoSalmon
    Registered Users Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭MayoSalmon


    jesus_thats_gre wrote: »
    Was going to transfer a chunk from my BA account - in the hope that I could upgrade a transatlantic flight later in the summer.

    Shall continue grinding on BA so.

    Sigh...You can upgrade. I have done it personally myself but you need to call them.


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    #1214
    AndyBoBandy
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    crisco10 wrote: »
    How long does it take for the Silver packs to be sent out? I got notification on 13th June that I was Silver, but how long until I get the card in the post?

    2 weeks (I've had 2 Silver cards sent, and they both took 2 weeks)
    crisco10 wrote: »
    Also, do you have to be getting an Aer Lingus flight to use the lounge/fast track?

    Yes for the lounge, and most likely yes for Fast Track.


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    #1215
    jesus_thats_gre
    Registered Users Posts: 17,441 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    Incidentally, I did ask a rep from AerClub if they would be offering some sort of status match in order to entice previously loyal customer back to the brand. I personally got bored of chasing Aer Lingus as opted to start flying BA instead - 28 flights so far this year.

    Still have Prestige status for another 6 months and I could be convinced to switch back given a lot of their issues seem to have finally been ironed out.


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    #1216
    jesus_thats_gre
    Registered Users Posts: 17,441 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    jesus_thats_gre wrote: »
    Was going to transfer a chunk from my BA account - in the hope that I could upgrade a transatlantic flight later in the summer.

    Shall continue grinding on BA so.
    MayoSalmon wrote: »
    Sigh...You can upgrade. I have done it personally myself but you need to call them.

    I called them yesterday and spent a good 10 mins pushing the guy.


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    #1217
    jesus_thats_gre
    Registered Users Posts: 17,441 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    MayoSalmon wrote: »
    Sigh...You can upgrade. I have done it personally myself but you need to call them.

    Just called them again and they are adamant that you cannot upgrade using Avios - I was speaking to an AerClub rep.


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    #1218
    L1011
    Registered Users Posts: 68,536 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    MayoSalmon wrote: »
    Sigh...You can upgrade. I have done it personally myself but you need to call them.

    Except it seems that the bulk of their staff are not aware that you can.

    The constant inconsistencies when we're told that something is set in stone are the biggest issue here.


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    #1219
    AndyBoBandy
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,275 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    L1011 wrote: »
    Except it seems that the bulk of their staff are not aware that you can.

    The constant inconsistencies when we're told that something is set in stone are the biggest issue here.

    Exactly,

    You can hear any number of versions of how the club is run depending who you speak to, which all points towards a severe lack of leadership of the programme.

    Quite embarrassing for them really. God help John Kavanagh if he ever interviews for another job outside Aer Lingus.

    "So John, looking through your CV, there appears to be a large gap from about mid 2016 to mid 2017! Can you tell us what you were up to during this period?"


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    #1220
    jive
    Registered Users Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    jesus_thats_gre wrote: »
    I personally got bored of chasing Aer Lingus as opted to start flying BA instead - 28 flights so far this year.

    Still have Prestige status for another 6 months and I could be convinced to switch back given a lot of their issues seem to have finally been ironed out.

    Same, still have status with EI but going with LH now because I was sick of having to chase. Only flying economy but ~€15k spend so far this year gone to LH rather than EI, have not had to chase points once.

    Flight times for my routes are roughly the same so no impact to me. I don't think I will be switching back, going to burn my BA/EI Avios and just continue with LH going forward; service is better.


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    #1221
    Yamanoto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭Yamanoto


    jive wrote: »
    Same, still have status with EI but going with LH now because I was sick of having to chase. Only flying economy but ~€15k spend so far this year gone to LH rather than EI, have not had to chase points once.

    Flight times for my routes are roughly the same so no impact to me. I don't think I will be switching back, going to burn my BA/EI Avios and just continue with LH going forward; service is better.

    Senator lounges in FRA & MUC in particular are pleasant spots to relax & something small like the purser onboard coming down for a quick chat & to check if you need anything are a nice nod to the fact that your loyalty has been noted.

    Anyways, back in AerClub world.....


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    #1222
    AndyBoBandy
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,275 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Yamanoto wrote: »
    Senator lounges in FRA & MUC in particular are pleasant spots to relax & something small like the purser onboard coming down for a quick chat & to check if you need anything are a nice nod to the fact that your loyalty has been noted.

    Anyways, back in AerClub world.....

    OT, but did you ever see that movie Up In the Air? And the bit when George Clooney gets his 10 millionth air mile, something like only the 3rd person to get it, and the captain came down and sat beside him to present him with his new card.

    Edit; he was Number 7


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    #1223
    AndyBoBandy
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,275 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Anyone else having issues logging into Aer Lingus?

    Suddenly can't log in as of this morning, so I called them and they said a number of 'guests' are having the same issue, and they'll send my details up to IT, which will take about a week!!

    Fantastic!!


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    #1224
    ironclaw
    Registered Users Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    Anyone else having issues logging into Aer Lingus?

    Suddenly can't log in as of this morning, so I called them and they said a number of 'guests' are having the same issue, and they'll send my details up to IT, which will take about a week!!

    Fantastic!!

    I have this issue intermittently. Likewise, you can't change your password and even if you do, you still can't log in. Took over a week to get right.


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    #1225
    AndyBoBandy
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,275 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    ironclaw wrote: »
    I have this issue intermittently. Likewise, you can't change your password and even if you do, you still can't log in. Took over a week to get right.

    About 5 minutes after speaking to them, I tried again and I was able to log in with my newly set password!!

    Someone in their IT dept. needs shooting!


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    #1226
    faceman
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,599 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    I've thrown in the towel with Aer Lingus loyalty now long haul. Despite 6 long haul flights this year including 1 business leg, I'm still 100 points short of status. I've started looking at using Ethiopia for LA flights.

    The US are pushing other countries to adapt US Preclear in their cities. Once that happens then Aer Lingus will have their work cut out for them maintaining frequent fliers.


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    #1227
    AndyBoBandy
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,275 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    faceman wrote: »
    The US are pushing other countries to adapt US Preclear in their cities. Once that happens then Aer Lingus will have their work cut out for them maintaining frequent fliers.

    this will surely be the nail in the coffin of Dublin & Aer Lingus positioning itself as the preferred hub & carrier to the states


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    #1228
    ironclaw
    Registered Users Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    faceman wrote: »

    The US are pushing other countries to adapt US Preclear in their cities. Once that happens then Aer Lingus will have their work cut out for them maintaining frequent fliers.

    You can pre-clear in a lot of places around the world actually. I've pre-cleared in Aruba and Toronto for example.

    I'd favor pre-clearence, no matter how cheap a flight is. The queues on the other end can be insane at times and with increased restrictions coming soon (Apparently), they will only get worse. I sat in a queue transiting from Mexico to Dublin in Newark, and it took 2.5 hours and vowed never to transit in the US again.


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    #1229
    L1011
    Registered Users Posts: 68,536 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    ironclaw wrote: »
    You can pre-clear in a lot of places around the world actually. I've pre-cleared in Aruba and Toronto for example.

    I'd favor pre-clearence, no matter how cheap a flight is. The queues on the other end can be insane at times and with increased restrictions coming soon (Apparently), they will only get worse. I sat in a queue transiting from Mexico to Dublin in Newark, and it took 2.5 hours and vowed never to transit in the US again.

    (some) Canada, (some) Caribbean, DUB/SNN and AUH are the entirety - not really "a lot" when there's 0 in South America, Asia, Africa, 1 in the ME and 2 in Europe.


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    #1230
    mx5ire
    Registered Users Posts: 274 ✭✭mx5ire


    faceman wrote: »
    I've thrown in the towel with Aer Lingus loyalty now long haul. Despite 6 long haul flights this year including 1 business leg, I'm still 100 points short of status. I've started looking at using Ethiopia for LA flights.

    The US are pushing other countries to adapt US Preclear in their cities. Once that happens then Aer Lingus will have their work cut out for them maintaining frequent fliers.
    I said something similar last week - the tier points for the more expensive T/A Low flights are the same as a usually much cheaper Plus fare, and earn half of an Advantage fare- which is still usually much cheaper. So despite spending more money and many more hours on green planes going to the US, you earn less than a cheaper fare to Europe. Another hole in their model. 

    Does anyone know how i figure out what category (Saver, Plus, Advantage) a ticket is when not purchased on the EI website ? I have what it says is an E class ticket - but using our corporate Concur system i dont know if its Saver, Plus etc. It says that i have a 20k baggage allowance - does that mean its Plus or Advantage ?


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    #1231
    goingnowhere
    Registered Users Posts: 4,171 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    Log on to the aer lingus website

    If it lets you select a seat for free then its plus or advantage

    Try to change the ticket, it will then show what was purchased initially

    This is assuming it was a web fare and not a GDS fare which if it is it may be a plus or not


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