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Is there life after death?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Nodin wrote: »
    Me too. Maybe our feet belonged to famous explorers in a previous life.
    Maybe you got one foot and I got the other, that's why we get lost in the first place.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 323 ✭✭emigrate2012


    I have never been entirely sure why this sentence always comes up in this subject. It's relevance here escapes me.[/quote]

    Well, life after death, the soul and all that ****, it's all energy right? Hence why it tends to come up, if there's any scientific basis for life after death, some forms of consciousness after the body gives out, I'd wager that'll have something to do with, none of this God bollox.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭TomBtheGoat


    I think in my past life I must of been a English teacher because youre use of "tae" instead of "to" makes me want to throw a Chalkboard Eraser at you're illiterate head.

    It's also quite possible that you were a Nazi in a past life...:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    It's also quite possible that you were a Nazi in a past life...:pac:
    A proofreader for the Nazi propaganda department.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    no




    naxt!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,908 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    I stopped reading at the first use of tae


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    Listen up meatheads,

    Regardless of your, yore, youre or fcuking you are, one thing is certain..

    Nobody is getting out alive.. and you can take that to the bank.










    Is there any more tae in the pot..?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    not yet wrote: »
    Is there any more tae in the pot..?

    Ask Yer Ma :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭Trent Houseboat


    The only thing of value in this thread is the information that not many people have read Irvine Welsh novels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Hagar7


    P4DDY2K11 wrote: »
    Your use of the word "tae" instead of to has made me way angrier than it should have!
    You must get angry very easily then,dae ye want me to gie ye a wee hug.:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Hagar7


    This might be the same case as the OP..


    Many thanks for that,she even looked like the mother of the Suttons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    RustyNut wrote: »
    Ask Yer Ma :D

    Kind of hard considering she's brown bread, which leads me back to tae....ah, a nice cup of tae and homemade brown bread.

    Now on D'other hand if the OP is correct my Ma is probably making brown bread somewhere in India as we speak.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Hagar7


    Yet strangely you did not know anything well enough to avoid taking the wrong turn in the first place.

    But you were not without any experience at all. You did, after all, get from where you were staying on the first and second day.... to the film. And you would also have taken in some of the area getting TO that place you stayed in the first place too

    So getting from there BACK again is hardly a miracle is it?

    That said however many towns are built to a similar standard. When you know one you know much about others too. This can also lead one to very much feel like they have been somewhere before despite being sure they never were.

    So nah, not seeing anything particularly amazing about your experience here, let alone reasons to assume "Life after Death".



    I have never been entirely sure why this sentence always comes up in this subject. It's relevance here escapes me.
    On the way into,(I'd better say into instead of intae,there's a strange lot on this thread) town,we came by bus,I was too busy chatting to be bothered about which direction we came in.
    The first day I was sleeping on the bus after a long journey from Glasgow to Belfast on the boat.
    I hope you find this explanation satisfactory,I doubt if the Spanish Inquisition was any harder......don't mention the Inquisition.!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭Eoin247


    Ok guys, I know everybody's thinking it so I'll just address the elephant in the room...

    Irish water


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    Hagar7 wrote: »
    You must get angry very easily then,dae me to gie ye a wee hug.:)

    Translated as:

    Do you want me to give you a Glasgow kiss..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Hagar7


    RustyNut wrote: »
    The real question is, is there life before death in Ballyjamesduff :D

    Good point Rusty,I've looked at Ballyjamesduff on Google Earth,nothing seems to have changed much tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    Eoin247 wrote: »
    Ok guys, I know everybody's thinking it so I'll just address the elephant in the room...

    Irish water

    Ah ya will ya will ya will..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,363 ✭✭✭nozzferrahhtoo


    Hagar7 wrote: »
    I was too busy chatting to be bothered about which direction we came in.

    Irrelevant. You made the trip around the town _at least_ twice. Once to get there in the first place. And once on the way to the cinema or wherever it was. Busy or not, you would be very surprised how much the mind takes in about it's surroundings. Even when asleep on bus journeys you are not actually asleep the whole time, you wake up periodically and look around. Whether you realize it or not. And on top of all that, as I said, there is a pattern and structure to how many places are built so when you have been in 2 or 3 towns, you can have the basic parameters to muddle your way through other towns too.
    Hagar7 wrote: »
    I hope you find this explanation satisfactory

    Not really for the reason I explain above. But even then still not really. See the MAIN problem I have with claims about things like reincarnation is that they invariably always take the same form. That is basically someone has information of some sort in their brain.... and they do not know how it got there.

    Sometimes it is a story like yours where you seemed to know your surroundings but were not sure how. Sometimes it is some story about an 8 year old child who has some basic proficiency in a language no one is sure how she learned. But the format is ALWAYS the same "Person X knows Data Y and we do not know how".

    And people LEAP from that to "Therefore reincarnation". Basically that are saying "Because we can not explain it.... we CAN explain it!" and that is a nonsense. We had a user around here peddling that nonsense quite heavily sometime last year. Eventually I asked him to offer his BEST example of reincarnation and what he came up with was so embarrassingly bad, and I tore it to shreds, that a few days later he simply closed his account and left the forum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    As I say to my hens.

    Life's a cnut and then you're someone's rogan josh.




    Never had any disagreement


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Hagar7


    Irrelevant. You made the trip around the town _at least_ twice. Once to get there in the first place. And once on the way to the cinema or wherever it was. Busy or not, you would be very surprised how much the mind takes in about it's surroundings. Even when asleep on bus journeys you are not actually asleep the whole time, you wake up periodically and look around. Whether you realize it or not. And on top of all that, as I said, there is a pattern and structure to how many places are built so when you have been in 2 or 3 towns, you can have the basic parameters to muddle your way through other towns too.
    Not really for the reason I explain above. But even then still not really. See the MAIN problem I have with claims about things like reincarnation is that they invariably always take the same form. That is basically someone has information of some sort in their brain.... and they do not know how it got there.

    Sometimes it is a story like yours where you seemed to know your surroundings but were not sure how. Sometimes it is some story about an 8 year old child who has some basic proficiency in a language no one is sure how she learned. But the format is ALWAYS the same "Person X knows Data Y and we do not know how".

    And people LEAP from that to "Therefore reincarnation". Basically that are saying "Because we can not explain it.... we CAN explain it!" and that is a nonsense. We had a user around here peddling that nonsense quite heavily sometime last year. Eventually I asked him to offer his BEST example of reincarnation and what he came up with was so embarrassingly bad, and I tore it to shreds, that a few days later he simply closed his account and left the forum.
    Bunkum Mr Watson,when you are 8 years old the brain doesn't take in as much as a 1 year old does,another point,explain to me how a 4 year old child can live in France,never out of the country and his mum n dad take him to the local flea pit market where he then informs his parents he'd been there before,he also knew all the streets and what was there before and then described places only historians knew about.
    How can you explain a young 5 year old boy in Arizona who can speak 6 different languages despite never learning them in his short life.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,363 ✭✭✭nozzferrahhtoo


    Hagar7 wrote: »
    when you are 8 years old the brain doesn't take in as much as a 1 year old does

    Erm I never said it does :confused: and nothing I DID say requires that it does :confused: So I am not sure what your point actually is here.
    Hagar7 wrote: »
    explain to me how a 4 year old child can live in France,never out of the country and his mum n dad take him to the local flea pit market where he then informs his parents he'd been there before,he also knew all the streets and what was there before and then described places only historians knew about.

    You are kinda proving my point for me above about the whole "This kid has this information and you must explain how" format that all reincarnation claims rely on. There are any number of ways children can obtain information, I could throw out numerous possibilities, but I can not substantiate any of them. Nor can you.

    The point however is that a lack of alternatives does not make another unsubstantiated fantastical alternative true. Or even credible. EVERY single time I see the subject come up it is the same thing. EVERY time the people who want reincarnation to be true simply say "This person had this knowledge and we do not know how they came to have it".

    And they act like because we do not know... that actually means we know. And that is truely nonsense thinking. Whenever your conclusions are based on "Because we can not explain it.... we can explain it" then you need to rethink your conclusions.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭asherbassad


    I think in my past life I must of been a English teacher because youre use of "tae" instead of "to" makes me want to throw a Chalkboard Eraser at you're illiterate head.

    'a' English teacher?

    'youre' use of.....?

    'you're' illiterate head?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    I'd imagine after you die you have similar experiences to what you had before you were conceived.

    As someone who is completely agnostic about what lies beyond the veil, and certainly not a believer in 'life after death', I think it's poor reasoning to suggest that not remembering anything prior to conception is evidence that there was nothing.

    None of us recall being 6 months old, soiling our nappies and feeding from our mother's breasts either, but we know it happened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭Conall Cernach


    Hagar7 wrote: »
    Bunkum Mr Watson,when you are 8 years old the brain doesn't take in as much as a 1 year old does,another point,explain to me how a 4 year old child can live in France,never out of the country and his mum n dad take him to the local flea pit market where he then informs his parents he'd been there before,he also knew all the streets and what was there before and then described places only historians knew about.
    How can you explain a young 5 year old boy in Arizona who can speak 6 different languages despite never learning them in his short life.
    They're fairy changelings. Or maybe there has been a glitch in the Matrix and the child has been uploaded with the wrong data. These explanations are just as plausible as reincarnation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    quote="Hagar7;97700259"]......life after death.
    As an 8 year old kid in Scotland,back in 1958,my grandmother who hailed from Lisburn,took me tae Ballyjamesduff.
    On the second day I was there a cousin who lived there asked me if I wanted tae go tae see The Dambusters,I said fine,no problem.
    Halfway through the film he took unwell and said he had tae go home and said would I be okay finding my way back tae where we were staying and I said I would be fine.
    Anyways,come the end of the film I started tae head to where we were staying,or at least I thought I did,there were four different ways out of the town and I chose the wrong way.
    Strange as it might seem,I wasn't in the slightest bit scared and each street I came tae,I knew it as if I had been there before,even before I turned a corner I knew what was ahead of me which was odd because I'd never been in Ireland in my life.
    Has anyone else ever encountered anything like it before?
    I recall seeing this woman on tv a couple of years ago which I found interesting and extraordinary.

    [/quote]

    I reckon you just got lost bud.Lovely place to pass through, wouldn't like to live there though. Its hardly as sketchy or vast as somewhere like Kingston Jamaica or Marseilles France.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 178 ✭✭BenedrylPete


    I think in my past life I must of been a English teacher because youre use of "tae" instead of "to" makes me want to throw a Chalkboard Eraser at you're illiterate head.

    Dont mind those people correcting your use of 'you're'.
    Concentrate on 'of been' as it is at least 15,000 times more annoying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    I don't believe there's an afterlife. But I totally understand why people do. I think we humans just cannot get our head around not existing. It's outside our understanding. We can't envisage the world rolling on with us not in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭captbarnacles


    Tarzana2 wrote: »
    I don't believe there's an afterlife. But I totally understand why people do. I think we humans just cannot get our head around not existing. It's outside our understanding. We can't envisage the world rolling on with us not in it.

    Who's this we? I can.

    Sadly or happily depending on your point of view, the world will get on just fine without any of us.


  • Site Banned Posts: 12 JulianSNZ


    No! There is no life after death. This is the only life you've got, Make the most of it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    Who's this we? I can.

    Generally. Your mileage may vary.


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