200hrs community service for 1/5 of a gram of Pot

One eyed Jack

DamagedTrax wrote: »

Even more shameful is how the establishment has brain washed multiple generations into lumping cannabis use in with heroin use because it doesnt fit in with pharma's agenda.

'drugs' my hole, you could be prescribed something by your doctor that will do you infinitely more damage than cannabis could ever manage.

@toptom if you've ever drank a single drop of alcohol in your life, you are a roaring hypocrite.

See that's the kind of conspiracy shyte talk that means we can never have nice things. There are many, many people who enjoy a smoke, who don't come out with that crap, and it's the minority that do, that give a negative impression of people who smoke cannabis. In moderation, it's no more harmful than any other substance you'd care to compare it to, but we've now got a situation where tobacco smoking is banned in public places, alcohol consumption is being strictly limited, and you honestly think anyone is going to legalise cannabis based upon the perception given of it by a small minority of smokers who are represented by a fcuking gimp in a hemp suit?

The difference between prescription drugs and non-prescribed drugs isn't just some "pharma agenda", it's because they are controlled by standards. Paddy with a bunch of hash plants in his spare room? Completely unregulated and uncontrolled.

Medusa22

Ah such a pity that I have to give up my occasional recreational....ahem, adventure since I moved to Cork and don't know anyone who can provide me with it. Perhaps someone could PM me if they live in Cork and know where I could avoid this sad fate

Bongalongherb

Medusa22 wrote: »

Ah such a pity that I have to give up my occasional recreational....ahem, adventure since I moved to Cork and don't know anyone who can provide me with it. Perhaps someone could PM me if they live in Cork and know where I could avoid this sad fate

You're better off the stuff to be honest, even though you are being sarcastic unless you grow your own with no commercial chemicals in your growing. The stuff they are selling in this country is pure sh!te sprayed with and mixed with nasty crap. Who knows what damage the mixed stuff will cause to a persons health down the road.

I'd never smoke that muck from the street, it's bad stuff.

Nodin

One eyed Jack wrote: »

We're even more fcuked as a society if we everyone disregards the possible consequences of their actions because they don't consider the consequences for other people in society. The woman in this case wasn't thrown into the prison system, she was given community service, y'know, serving the community, doing something that benefits society.

But we are fucked as a society, because many crimes go unpunished, virtually unpunished, ignored and so on, while people get shafted for minor "offences" like this. It's small minded ignorant policing of the worst order and a waste of court time and resources.

One eyed Jack

Nodin wrote: »

But we are fucked as a society, because many crimes go unpunished, virtually unpunished, ignored and so on, while people get shafted for minor "offences" like this. It's small minded ignorant policing of the worst order and a waste of court time and resources.

I don't think at all we're fcuked as a society on the basis of convictions for minor offences like this. Because other antisocial and criminal behaviour goes unpunished we should ignore the small stuff?

That really would be small minded, ignorant policing of the "can't see the wood for the trees" kind.

Yakult

Bongalongherb wrote: »

You're better off the stuff to be honest, even though you are being sarcastic unless you grow your own with no commercial chemicals in your growing. The stuff they are selling in this country is pure sh!te sprayed with and mixed with nasty crap. Who knows what damage the mixed stuff will cause to a persons health down the road.

I'd never smoke that muck from the street, it's bad stuff.

+1

More damage is done by prohibition. Poor quality, sprayed cannabis as opposed to home grown, 100% natural bud grown by people, not for profit. In the long run it will benefit the government to legalise it (or decriminalise) because their won't be so many problems caused by scum weed.

Nodin

One eyed Jack wrote: »

I don't think at all we're fcuked as a society on the basis of convictions for minor offences like this. Because other antisocial and criminal behaviour goes unpunished we should ignore the small stuff?

That really would be small minded, ignorant policing of the "can't see the wood for the trees" kind.

"unpunished" as in not prosecuted. Rather different to not being caught.

"Other antisocial and criminal behaviour"? She was having a joint, for fecks sake, not wrecking a pub and nutting gardai.

DamagedTrax

One eyed Jack wrote: »

See that's the kind of conspiracy shyte talk that means we can never have nice things. There are many, many people who enjoy a smoke, who don't come out with that crap, and it's the minority that do, that give a negative impression of people who smoke cannabis. In moderation, it's no more harmful than any other substance you'd care to compare it to, but we've now got a situation where tobacco smoking is banned in public places, alcohol consumption is being strictly limited, and you honestly think anyone is going to legalise cannabis based upon the perception given of it by a small minority of smokers who are represented by a fcuking gimp in a hemp suit?

The difference between prescription drugs and non-prescribed drugs isn't just some "pharma agenda", it's because they are controlled by standards. Paddy with a bunch of hash plants in his spare room? Completely unregulated and uncontrolled.

And legalisation, alongside regulation would solve all that.

by the way whats a hash plant?

Bongalongherb

I think this is supposed to be a hash plant ?. I never heard of one myself though.

One eyed Jack

DamagedTrax wrote: »

And legalisation, alongside regulation would solve all that.

Of course it would :rolleyes:

by the way whats a hash plant?

It's a plant. Use google if you're that badly stuck.


This thread is gone way off topic and has turned into another "legalise marijuana" discussion, and they usually end up going nowhere, so I'm out.

Bongalongherb

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Of course it would :rolleyes:


It's a plant. Use google if you're that badly stuck.

This thread is gone way off topic and has turned into another "legalise marijuana" discussion, and they usually end up going nowhere, so I'm out.

It's a Cannabis plant, they all are, but the hash is made from the leaves of the female Cannabis plant of which is normally discarded and then crushed to make cannabis oil - hash oil or moulded into a block.

Just like a person here said earlier... She could have gotten a lot worse in some far eastern country for that tiny bit, so she didn't do too bad. Like I previously said, as long as cannabis or hash is illegal in this country Ireland you will get a penalty of different degrees all depending on the judge.

There is such a thing as a hash-tag but not a hash-plant.

Rough Sleeper

One eyed Jack wrote: »

It's a plant. Use google if you're that badly stuck.

I think people know what you meant. Just like I knew what my Ma meant when I'd come back after getting jawed at a techno gig and she'd ask me how the "disco" was. When someone talks about hash plants I imagine little bonsai trees with 10-spots hanging from the leaves , all wrapped up in tinfoil. I know what people mean when they say "hash plant," it just sounds kinda silly and makes them seem a bit out of the loop, is all.

ComfortKid

One eyed Jack wrote:

No I don't agree, because I don't think there is any such thing as a victimless crime. If something is a crime, there will always be someone, somewhere, who pays for the commission of that crime.

This is possibly the most ridiculous thing I've ever read, not just on boards but anywhere, ever!

I'm smoking a joint right now in my bedroom, 1 joint. I'm going to go to sleep in a bout 20 minutes and wake tomorrow as normal.

Who is the victim of my "crime" ?

Please answer this question, although I doubt you can.

DamagedTrax

ComfortKid wrote: »

This is possibly the most ridiculous thing I've ever read, not just on boards but anywhere, ever!

I'm smoking a joint right now in my bedroom, 1 joint. I'm going to go to sleep in a bout 20 minutes and wake tomorrow as normal.

Who is the victim of my "crime" ?

Please answer this question, although I doubt you can.

everytime you have a spliff god kills a puppy. can you live with that?

meeeeh

Unless you grow it yourself or source it from a neighbour who is into ethical farming, you are essentially propping up criminal gangs. Weather that is happening exactly because marihuana is illegal is another story. Plus you are not paying taxes. So there you have it, this is your criminal damage.


Above isn't exactly 100% serious reply but when the miracle cure powers are promoted I do have to laugh at people. Last time I heard about it's miracle powers, some cookies, oils and tea were sampled at a seminar in some eco park (typical) and 15 pensioners ended in hospital with quite serious poisoning. (I can provide a link but I don't think many will understand the language).

drunkmonkey

ComfortKid wrote: »

I'm smoking a joint right now

Puff Puff pass!!

Ferris_Bueller

Jesus christ, that is ridiculous. I live around the area myself and regularly see news like this in the local paper and on that particular website, that judge seems like an absolute p***k to be honest, handing out ridiculous punishments for nothing offenses such as this. I don't see what harm that is causing to anyone at all, 200 hours as someone pointed out is 5 weeks work in a full time job, how does the crime fit the punishment in this situation?

I would have thought with all of O'Riordans talk about decriminalising certain drugs and the fact that a lot of modern countries seem to be easing up on their stance towards weed would influence the court decisions by guys like this but obviously not. It's a waste of the gardaís time, the courts time and now a waste of this mothers time to do the 200 hours service.

Out of curiosity, if I got a slap in a nightclub tomorrow night and reported it to the gardaí, what would they do about it? I'd guess nothing. But even if they did do something about it, what punishment would the guy get? I highly doubt it would be something as severe as this despite IMO the crime being 100 times worse. It's completely backwards that someone gets in so much trouble for having probably two joints on them, causing harm to nobody, yet there were probably 200 crimes worse than this committed in Naas that week alone. In another few years we will look back on cases like this and laugh that it was such an offence at the time, the laws need to be changed ASAP.

Austria!

One eyed Jack wrote: »

No I don't agree, because I don't think there is any such thing as a victimless crime. If something is a crime, there will always be someone, somewhere, who pays for the commission of that crime.

So you really think homosexuality was a crime with a victim in 1992, but in 1994 it was not a crime and there was no victim? That's absolutely, astoundingly stupid.

2Mad2BeMad

a fella i know got the same for punching a guard
says alot about the justice system

harry Bailey esq

Bongalongherb wrote: »

It's a Cannabis plant, they all are, but the hash is made from the leaves of the female Cannabis plant of which is normally discarded and then crushed to make cannabis oil - hash oil or moulded into a block.

Just like a person here said earlier... She could have gotten a lot worse in some far eastern country for that tiny bit, so she didn't do too bad. Like I previously said, as long as cannabis or hash is illegal in this country Ireland you will get a penalty of different degrees all depending on the judge.

There is such a thing as a hash-tag but not a hash-plant.

The Dutch Passion seed company have an Afghan Indica strain called hash plant.A close acquaintance of mine grew some and was very pleased with themselves