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runnerholic wrote: »But only a handful of runners start when the gun goes off. It takes a while for all runners to cross the start line meaning that the chip time if measured from the gun will not give an accurate time for running the 5k. I can't believe that a club of Donore Harriers stature would run an event that didn't give an accurate time for all runners. I have to say I am disgusted with this and had I known that this was going to be the case I would not have bothered running.
There are loads of races are run like this. Particularly with smaller fields as the time between gun and start-line are pretty small.
Forget the watch. Go eyeballs out, beat some lad or lassie that thinks they can beat you and go home happy. You will remember these battles more than the times...........#oldschoolracing
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Well done C. There was official timing. Presume you received yours by email at this stage. However, it was a gun start rather than a starting mat. So your official chip time reflect the time from when the "gun" went off until you crossed the finish line.
Yeah, sorry had posted before I got my text with my 'official time'. We couldn't really hear the announcer at the start over the roar of the wind so we were under the impression that there wouldn't be any finish mat either.
It took a while to pass the start, it was an absolute mess, so I'm taking my watch time!
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I'm surprised to see you say that
but ok then!
I find my watch is generally 1-2 seconds faster than official times chip times, so maybe add that on?
You have to use that system I guess as otherwise people at the back of a big race like this would have a 1+ minute? disadvantage. Also (in order not to fool yourself) you'd have to be confident that you started your watch at the start line and not after....0 -
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Add your reply here.hot buttered scones wrote: »Felt justified in copping out of parkrun this morning due to the weather. Was on my way home from town when I saw some obviously tough b#st#$d pegging down Merchants Quay in Cork in shorts and a singlet. # ashamed. Will have to go for a run now.
It was lovely out in Tramore Park this morning - you know you are on a winner when the race mgr tells you to be careful of the puddles with hidden craters
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It's ok to use your chip time for your own Personal best purposes though. In a race like this where there was no start mat to give you a chip time )and a decent delay to get going), I think it's ok to use your watch time.
with one comment I get a PB...I find my watch is generally 1-2 seconds faster than official times chip times, so maybe add that on?
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and then its gone again oh well, *must do better next time* goes on my report card so 0 -
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I'm a bit stressed about the 5k tomorrow. More so than the marathon! This week has been a bit of a washout, literally and figuratively, in terms of running. I got out Tuesday, Wednesday for 30/45 mins, but nothing since. It was just too bad today even to go out for the 15 mins, so I'll just do a nice warm up before the race at 12 tomorrow. I'm hoping, against hope, for sub 25, but with the weather, and the course, I'd settle for just beating my 26:12 PB. Hopefully my calf will not explode!
Well done to all who raced today in JB, and hard luck to anyone doing Clonakilty. I know two people who were planning to do the marathon.0 -
I'm a bit stressed about the 5k tomorrow. More so than the marathon! This week has been a bit of a washout, literally and figuratively, in terms of running. I got out Tuesday, Wednesday for 30/45 mins, but nothing since. It was just too bad today even to go out for the 15 mins, so I'll just do a nice warm up before the race at 12 tomorrow. I'm hoping, against hope, for sub 25, but with the weather, and the course, I'd settle for just beating my 26:12 PB. Hopefully my calf will not explode!
Well done to all who raced today in JB, and hard luck to anyone doing Clonakilty. I know two people who were planning to do the marathon.
Don't worry to much as myles said 5 k's are for exterminating with another
Around the corner.:)0 -
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Fear not Chris! I was feeling the same after the parkrun last week but wait until you are back in a race environment. You will be grand!
Mini race report: Donore Harriers Jingle Bells 5k!
It feels like forever since the Marathon but when I got up this morning the routine felt really familiar. Usual breakfast of Porridge, Chia seeds and banana. Lounged around for a while and then got ready. Living to close to the start was a huge help, I donned a bin bag, left the house at 10:35am, jogged the first km to warm up, the walked up hill and was at the start line at 10:47am
Wasn't really sure how I was feeling about it, really wanted a PB but in these conditions? It had been hard enough in St. Annes last week and this was a lot worse. Met TFGR, had a little chat and then moved up a bit. I thought I had read that all buggies, walkers and people doing it with small kids should start at the back and that the start of race would be divided into time zones - none of this happened or if it did then I didn't see it. Perhaps I was spoiled by the race series.
The start was a bit of a shambles owing to the weather. There was a guy trying to make an announcement but we couldn't hear him above the wind. Word filtered around that there would be no timing. Great, I thought, what was the point? But then I copped myself on, I was just going to run and seeing as it felt like race conditions, even if there was no timing, I still had my Garmin. As it happened there was a mat at the finish and so we all got a gun time but it was hardly accurate as we had been told to take it very easy getting to the start line so we did! Kudos to all the volunteers who braved the conditions to get us underway and cheered us on throughout. It was bad enough to run in it, I can't imagine what it was like to have to stand around in it.
Km 1: 5:12min/km
I had thought about my pace before the race and had set my watch to 5:10min/km. Watch didn't beep during this km and I was conscious of not checking it too often so I pretty much ignored it until it beeped the km. Was happy enough that I had managed the first one nearly bang on pace.
Km 2: 5:14min/km
Spent most of this one trying to find someone to tuck in behind. The jingle of the bells was really lovely and I was enjoying it but I seemed to be on my own a lot. Still I was passing more people than were passing me so I was happy.
Km 3: 5:10min/km
Turned onto the Ordnance Survey Rd. Thought about what Meno had said and just put the head down. This was by far the most difficult part of the race, straight into the wind, I have absolutely no idea how I managed to stay on pace. Still passing people, still feeling good.
Km 4: 5:00min/km
On familiar ground now, looking out over Chapelizod. Still passing people, checked in with myself, breathing was much better than anyone around me, still felt good and even if I hadn't there wasn't much father to go so just pushed on.
Km 5: 4:37min/km
Well this was lovely, downhill to the end. Nothing much more to say about that.
Gun time: 25:35
Garmin time: 25:16
Happy with the way it all went and came through unscathed. Will have to go again for a chip timed PB but really glad I gave it my all today.
Editied to add: The mug is fabulous! Everyone is admiring it!!0 -
w00t! PB!
Though it was a lot tougher than the marathon!
The course was the Birdhill Turkey Run in Tipperary. I had planned to do it last year, but I think it was too horrible and wet. This year, there were ideal conditions. Not a breath of wind, no rain, and a nice chill in the air. You really could not have asked for anything better weather wise, especially after the events yesterday.
I had a fairly off week running wise due to the weather, so I had a small 1k warm up before the race at about 5k pace + 1 min. Legs felt okay, a bit shaky, as I was a bit nervous, more so than the marathon, which is down to the fact I put 18 weeks training into that, and I was effectively just strolling up to this without having done a 5k race in months, and no real fast running in the past 6 months. I walked to the line, chatted with a few runners, and got ready. It was a 12pm start, so I was hoping to be in at 25 past, no more than 26 past!
KM 1: 5:13
Wow. That hill. The first .7 km was fairly steep. 75m over the first .7, with a drop of 9 after the peak. I felt like that took a good bit out of me. I managed to keep pace steady, but perhaps, should have done it a bit slower, but I wasn't really expecting it, as it was the first time I had seen the course, let alone traveled it. I passed a good few people here, and picked my keep up with target of a girl in a blue top
KM 2: 5:11
Keeping it steady. I figured I wasn't going to be getting 25 mins today, as I would have wanted to be at 2km in about 9:30 to get to that. I think I was at 10:30 when I passed the 2k marker. I could see a bit of a hill for the .5k before the turn around to come back, so I was pacing myself for that.
KM 3: 5:20
That was a tough hill too. I lost a bit of time here, and said hello to a co-worker who was marshalling at the half way point. I was breathing fairly heavy here, so I just had to get myself to calm down a bit. It was only about 12 mins to go. I could do this! I'd worked my ass off the past 6 months, and while it wasn't for speed, I had the endurance built up.
KM 4: 5:18
Managed to keep it steady. I found this one the hardest. My breathing was the hardest it had been in months. I totally forgot what really pushing yourself is like. Jesus Christ! I was so used to going 2min/km slower than this for the easy runs, and nearly 1 min/km on the faster runs. A few up and downs here, I passed a few people who were ahead of me walking, so I resolved to just keep it up. 5 mins to go. That's all. Keep it up!
KM 5: 4:49
The first .3 was up that 10m descent from KM 1. I had this downhill in my head the whole last 2KM. I knew I could gain back some time here, and I definitely did. I thought I was going to fall, my speed increased so dramatically. A lovely .7km descent back into the village. As I got the the corner, I could see the finish line. The clock was ticking. 25:42. ****! I put the pedal down, and crossed the line (I think) at 25:59! Phew! Just under! My watch gave me a time of 25:50, so I was definitely under. I haven't seen official results yet, but I should be comfortably (that's a poor word choice) under 26, which is at least 14 seconds off my previous PB, plus it was way steadier, and on a tougher course that where I set that PB. I was fairly steady with the splits, with only 9 seconds between the fastest and slowest (not counting the sprint finish) so I was happy with that. There was nearly 50 seconds between the fastest and slowest in my previous PB, so that's a definite improvement.
Overall, I'm happy with it. I'd still like to get under 25 before the end of the year, and the Limerick parkrun debuts next week on what is a fairly flat course so I'll give that a go and see what I can do there.0 -
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Super stuff Chris well done. Hoping to break 26 mins myself great to see you doing in now for the sub 25 training
Thanks Kenny, A.
Official race time of 25:58, and 25:56 chip. Finished 25th out of 75 (not counting anyone who clearly walked, as there were about 75 of those too), so I'm happy enough to be in the top third. Wasn't a super fast field, but I'll take it 0 -
Ok gang of graduates, just in case any of you have missed the voting for A/R forum poster of the year, you can vote here
....not that I'm trying to suggest you should vote for any gal one in particular of course... 0 -
Ok gang of graduates, just in case any of you have missed the voting for A/R forum poster of the year, you can vote here
....not that I'm trying to suggest you should vote for any gal one in particular of course...
The tyranny of block voting former-novices
Worse than the Eurovision...0 -
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Well done everyone who raced at the weekend!!
Hah Singer! Lovely because the hell was nearly over (and I finally managed to pass the tiny little girl who was beside me for all of the 4th KM 
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So I'm presuming we're 45 mins easy today or did I miss the plan?0 -
I have another 5k race at the weekend, as the Limerick parkrun opens. I was planning the following.
Tuesday: 30 mins easy
Wednesday: 45 mins easy
Thursday: Rest
Friday: 15 mins slow
Saturday: Hopefully 25 mins fast
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Hi Folks,
Deepest apologies on the delay here my internet presence has been a little limited the last few days.
Will catch up on all the race reports from the weekend but by the looks of things some great performances despite Desmonds best efforts
In terms of training this week here is the plan
Monday|OFF
Tuesday|45 min easy
Wednesday| 1 mile warm up, 8x45 second hills, 1 mile cooldown
Thursday| 45 min easy
Friday| OFF
Saturday| 10 min warm up, 20 min tempo, 10 min warm up
Sunday| 80 min easy
Hills
For the hills the aim is to find something with a gradual incline for those in Dublin something along the lines of Kybher is the type of gradient we are looking at
Tempo
This is a word that can be a catch all for alot of different paces. For the aims of this though it is approximately the pace you can hold for roughly an hour so if you are running a 10k/10 mile around 60 minutes that is about the effort you want to be holding.
For anyone who doesn't really have a clue but has an idea of their 5k paces a good guide can be your 5k pace per mile + 25-35 seconds so if you are a 25 min 5k runner (8 min miling) your tempo pace will be roughly 8.30
The target will be to get people strong over the coming weeks and months with the aim to have you in good 5m-10k pace for the end of january however you will have enough strength work done to push that a little longer and still perform well.
As mentioned I will get through all questions and reports throughout the rest of today.0 -
Race report is finally up on my training log. Sorry for posting it so late, I've had trouble with my laptop at home!
Jingle Bells Race Report
Well done everyone running this, and anything else on Saturday!
Great to see Singer, Toulouse and Whoopsa at the race, and others in the pub afterwards. Dubgal, it was fantastic to hang out with you again. Really glad I went to Ryan's after! 0 -
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