Connacht Rugby Thread - Part III - The Violence of the Lams

Robbo

Forwards really are second best today.

Crimsonforce

Rodney ah no

BrokenMan

NiallBoo wrote: »

The penalty try?

Lifting a player in the scrum it's dangerous and illegal. Obvious penalty against treviso.

Missed that. You're correct.

Robbo

Crimsonforce wrote: »

Rodney ah no

The sooner he's eating soda farls the better.

b.gud

That's some response

Robbo

Nice finish by Mimsy.

As soon as we start playing our speed game, bingo. Nice conversion from Cooney as well.

Diabhal Beag

Hon Robb

b.gud

Cooney isn't a bad kicker at all.
Carr has been making good breaks all night

whatawaster

Score?

NTC

whatawaster wrote: »

Score?

Tra 19-21 Connacht

connachta

connachta wrote: »

thomond2006 wrote: »

connachta wrote: »

Well I'm puzzeled by Lam's team. It could cost us the win. Treviso spent the last two months preparing this. Can't wait to see Robb/Parata and THAT back-row in action though

It's not puzzling to me. The current form of both sides means the BP will probably be wrapped up after 50 minutes. I don't buy the 'two months preparing for this' argument, you don't go out to get deliberately hammered in three games straight. There's also a lot of starters in that injury list. It cannot cost a win as there is a very strong bench to come to save the day if needs be. The full team will play against Glasgow and then get a rest before (hopefully!) two playoff games.

Think you overestimate the gap between us and the Italians. I remember we were in serious danger after 60 minutes in Parma (Zebre).
I'm not confident about our scrum (AhYou/Loughney) our half-backs (Carty-Cooney), our lineout without Dillane/Aly, and our wingers for the defensive duties (Carr/Niyi). the point is it should be a high-scoring game, and if it bounces the wrong way, with a few more handling errors and soft tries conceeded, the bench could come in too late

Well, you all have to admit I was right with that post...

Robbo

Treviso are knackered now. Time to make this comfortable.

pollypigwash

Robbo wrote: »

Treviso are knackered now. Time to make this comfortable.

I've actually thought we look sluggish enough at times. Error count needs an abacus tonight

NTC

How did he not see 15 green?

westgolf

On a side note what schmuck was responsible for deciding that TG4 would only show our first half before cutting to the munster match ? Follow the table toppers doh !

Crimsonforce

To be fair treviso have played very very well...

molloyjh

westgolf wrote: »

On a side note what schmuck was responsible for deciding that TG4 would only show our first half before cutting to the munster match ? Follow the table toppers doh !

In what should be a foregone conclusion? Versus a seriously important game that isn't? Eh, no.

oneofakind32

Overtime Carr makes a break he has no support. You think at this stage, someone would have figured he might make a break and might need support.

Crimsonforce

Treviso could get a scrum penalty here and take a shot and win............

connemara man

WTF!

NTC

connemara man wrote: »

WTF!

Did treviso not drive up in that scrum?

pollypigwash

A terrible decision to go wide there. Should have secured the four points.

Countless wasted opportunities today

coco0981

Why did they run the ball after winning the lineout, there was only 30 seconds left ffs. Keep it tight and kick it out

Adbrowne

As good as connacht are playing,as good as they are to watch, the unwillingness to play percentage rugby from time to time has just come back to bite them big time.

Robbo

Jesus. That's a performance from 2 years ago.

Diabhal Beag

Those butchered chances in the second half made the difference. So many handling errors too. Poor Fionn didn't deserve to lose this.

DDC1990

Only watched the last 2 minutes but that was crazy stuff at the end. Thrown away!

Utopia Parkway

Beaten with the last kick of the game. Like the old days.

Crimsonforce

Crimsonforce wrote: »

Treviso could get a scrum penalty here and take a shot and win............

Spoke to soon.. wow, all that hardwork over the season and to fall at the last hurdle

Bazzo

That was a shocking performance ffs

connachta

Doesn't change much without the BP, we probably would have had to beat Glasgow anyway

DDC1990

Still in the playoffs though. Didn't realize that.

Funk It

Poor scrum by Connacht at the end, big call taking off McCartney I reckon. JP seemed to get manhandled as well.

Hope this is just a blip as thought this team had finally turned a corner. Glasgow game now crucial to claim a top 2 finish.

ClanofLams

Ugh.

It doesn't make a lot of difference in the grand scheme of things, home semi remains in connachts control. Poor performance, way too many errors and some complacency creeped in I think.

connachta

We didn't play that bad. They targetted it and played well. Predicted it could have happened if we were led after H-T. That was the case

wp_rathead

Peter Robb and Fionn Carr were both brilliant and didn't deserve to be on the losing side
Dissapointed in Tom McCartney, started pissing off Fitzgibbon which helps no one

Fair play to Treviso though has to be said- but Lam's gamble of not starting Muldoon, Bealham and Muldowney in the pack was very costly

Cosmo Kramer

coco1981 wrote: »

Why did they run the ball after winning the lineout, there was only 30 seconds left ffs. Keep it tight and kick it out

Went for all five. Ended up with one. The only thing you can say is that if they ended up with a four point win they were going to need to beat Glasgow to get a home semi final. Now they still need to beat Glasgow to get a home semi final so maybe it was worth the risk. Stupid from Blade to give away the scrum in that part of the field though.

pollypigwash

DDC1990 wrote: »

Still in the playoffs though. Didn't realize that.

Yes onwards and upwards. A terrible performance but a well timed kick in the hole. A fantastic achievement to get a semi-final all the same

Billysays no

Billysays no wrote: »

What you say is true. Even if Jack was fully fit he wouldnt have got home. It was just the ease with which Zebo made up the ground I thought was a bit of a worry. Treviso may be no great shakes but neither are they a total walkover. It is reassuring that there is a strong bench so if things do go a bit belly-up we should be able to correct it quickly. However I can see Treviso potentially leading the game at half-time. Its not a matter of cup half empty. Its a centre partnership that has never played together (though I have to admit being excited to see how it goes as I believe both players have huge potential) a front row and second row that is far from our strongest and the fitness questions over our 9 and 10. I don't see this game being the forgone conclusion it should be, thats all.

and there ya go

ClanofLams

Crimsonforce wrote: »

Spoke to soon.. wow, all that hardwork over the season and to fall at the last hurdle

How do you mean? Bad performance bad result but nothing really changed. Homi semi dependent on Glasgow game as was always likely to be the case.

BrokenMan

From 14 - 0 up to losing. Crazy stuff.
Looked at times like players were expecting things to happen instead of makinfb them happen. How many times did Carr make ground only to have no one to pass to. Blade had 2 chances to put players away in space and took the wrong decision and the less we say about that forward pass the better.

And not to be all negative. Play off place secured and still a home semi in our hands. Wouldn't have believed it at the start of the season.

connachta

wp_rathead wrote: »

Peter Robb and Fionn Carr were both brilliant and didn't deserve to be on the losing side
Dissapointed in Tom McCartney, started pissing off Fitzgibbon which helps no one

Fair play to Treviso though has to be said- but Lam's gamble of not starting Muldoon, Bealham and Muldowney in the pack was very costly

:angel:

Bazzo

connachta wrote: »

We didn't play that bad. They targetted it and played well. Predicted it could have happened if we were led after H-T. That was the case

Waaaaaay too many basic elements of play missing for that to be called anything other than playing badly. No matter how well Treviso play their highest level is still well below what any decent team should display.

Loughney and Rodney were both spanked in the scrum, that's a massive worry and it just goes to show you how underappreciated Buckley's scrummaging is.

Knock ons all over the place, on a lovely warm dry evening in Italy, what happened to all the skills that have been on display all season?

Some very iffy decision making.

Continuously letting backs get isolated when they make breaks.

No, not good enough for me, sorry.

connachta

connachta wrote: »

connachta wrote: »

thomond2006 wrote: »

connachta wrote: »

Well I'm puzzeled by Lam's team. It could cost us the win. Treviso spent the last two months preparing this. Can't wait to see Robb/Parata and THAT back-row in action though

It's not puzzling to me. The current form of both sides means the BP will probably be wrapped up after 50 minutes. I don't buy the 'two months preparing for this' argument, you don't go out to get deliberately hammered in three games straight. There's also a lot of starters in that injury list. It cannot cost a win as there is a very strong bench to come to save the day if needs be. The full team will play against Glasgow and then get a rest before (hopefully!) two playoff games.

Think you overestimate the gap between us and the Italians. I remember we were in serious danger after 60 minutes in Parma (Zebre).
I'm not confident about our scrum (AhYou/Loughney) our half-backs (Carty-Cooney), our lineout without Dillane/Aly, and our wingers for the defensive duties (Carr/Niyi). the point is it should be a high-scoring game, and if it bounces the wrong way, with a few more handling errors and soft tries conceeded, the bench could come in too late

Well, you all have to admit I was right with that post...

Again Bazoo, said it... It was very possible to happen, Injuries+rotations meant we were too far from our usual starting team

Cosmo Kramer

To get to the final now we'd probably now need to beat Glasgow at home twice in a row. It would be a big ask whoever we ended up against but that would be a massive task.

Despite Connacht's excellent looking scrum over the last couple of seasons there is a huge drop off in the standard of our props below White, Buckley and Bealham. Loughney can come on as a sub and maybe hold up a scrum for 15 minutes but that's about it. I don't know that Cooney is Pro 12 standard, never mind Champions Cup. Hopefully the new signing Carey can be brought up to standard fairly quickly and the likes of O'Donnell and the other academy props (if they're being kept on) can kick on sooner rather than later. As we saw tonight we're two injuries from disaster in the front row at any time.

ClanofLams

connachta wrote: »

Again Bazoo, said it... It was very possible to happen, Injuries+rotations meant we were too far from our usual starting team

Not being smart connachta but you tend to make negative predictions constantly including that connacht might only win 1 of the last 8 league fixtures and be caught by Cardiff Blues or something so ya know I wouldn't start calling yourself Nostradamus just yet.

BrokenMan

ClanofLams wrote: »

Not being smart connachta but you tend to make negative predictions constantly including that connacht might only win 1 of the last 8 league fixtures and be caught by Cardiff Blues or something so ya know I wouldn't start calling yourself Nostradamus just yet.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day

Robbo

connachta wrote: »

Doesn't change much without the BP, we probably would have had to beat Glasgow anyway

The Glasgow match could have worked out quite nicely for both sides as a bonus point draw had we not lost tonight. Not that I condone match fixing...

Billysays no

while i am a bit miffed at this result i am more miffed with carr. yes he breaks a line and carries. but he is not a team player. he simply runs his own lines. so i wish him the best but he's not for me. its how he always played rugby and he always looks good. he just needs to understand there are another 14 players on the field who are working for a team

thomond2006

thomond2006 wrote: »

It will. The Italian teams have phoned it in. In their three games since the 6N, Treviso have conceded 56, 38 and 47.

thomond2006 wrote: »

It's not puzzling to me. The current form of both sides means the BP will probably be wrapped up after 50 minutes. I don't buy the 'two months preparing for this' argument, you don't go out to get deliberately hammered in three games straight. There's also a lot of starters in that injury list. It cannot cost a win as there is a very strong bench to come to save the day if needs be. The full team will play against Glasgow and then get a rest before (hopefully!) two playoff games.

thomond2006 wrote: »

I know you like to be a glass half-empty poster on here but Treviso haven't a prayer in this. Connacht will put at least 40 on them. Now if Connacht also rested the players from the bench then maybe there would be a cause for concern.

thomond2006 wrote: »

Let's see the result. I'll be happy to admit I was wrong.