Connacht Rugby Thread - Part III - The Violence of the Lams

Zzippy · 10-01-2016 4:29pm

Looking at the first "try" again, Masterson has to apply downward pressure for the ball to pop up like that. That's a try for me. Second one is more marginal, last camera angle shows he probably did lose control. My Irish is rubbish but I did hear "hometown decision" from the studio analyst there...

freyners · 10-01-2016 4:30pm

connemara man wrote:

If that's the argument it should be a try no? As any pressure on a loose ball in the goal area is a try I think? I may have a law mixed up in my head

That's what I thought. Apparently not but I'll let some others weigh in.

Tigerandahalf · 10-01-2016 4:31pm

Finlay Bealham doing well since he switched to LH. He has dominated Samson Lee - no mean feat.

Masterson's was a try for me. He didn't touch it down the first tine but the ball clearly went back and he then touched it down for a try.

Healy's wasn't a try. Lost control. That is such a hard skill. You need big hands to be able to hold the ball like that in one hand and get it down.

Crimsonforce · 10-01-2016 4:31pm

Tg4 guys saying absolute home town decision by the tmo

The Rape of Lucretia · 10-01-2016 4:32pm

connemara man wrote: »

If that's the argument it should be a try no? As any pressure on a loose ball in the goal area is a try I think? I may have a law mixed up in my head

If you are holding the ball, its a try if you 'touch' the ground.
If you are not holding the ball, its a try if the ball is on the ground, and you 'press down'. Touching the ball is not enough in this case, but touching the ground is enough if you are in full control of the ball.

CMOTDibbler · 10-01-2016 4:34pm

connemara man wrote: »

If that's the argument it should be a try no? As any pressure on a loose ball in the goal area is a try I think? I may have a law mixed up in my head

You're right. Looked at it a few times now and I'm not really definite there was downward pressure. The ball was bouncing up and at best you could only say he got glancing contact.

Bazzo · 10-01-2016 4:35pm

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

If you are holding the ball, its a try if you 'touch' the ground.
If you are not holding the ball, its a try if the ball is on the ground, and you 'press down'. Touching the ball is not enough in this case, but touching the ground is enough if you are in full control of the ball.

Well the ball went backwards so he either

a)grounded it. Try, or
b) didn't ground it, knocked it backwards, proceeded to ground it. Try.

wp_rathead · 10-01-2016 4:35pm

ah second silly mistake by Marmion
Bundee needs to cool it

Padkir · 10-01-2016 4:35pm

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

TMO was spot on for the second call. Don't know how the ref was thinking it was OK before he was called back on it.

This is definitely going down to the wire too.

I think he just wanted to give it because he thought the first one was a wrong call...

molloyjh · 10-01-2016 4:35pm

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

If you are holding the ball, its a try if you 'touch' the ground.
If you are not holding the ball, its a try if the ball is on the ground, and you 'press down'. Touching the ball is not enough in this case, but touching the ground is enough if you are in full control of the ball.

Yeah Masterson touched the ball when the ball was touching the ground, but he does not have any control or downward pressure. I wouldn't have awarded that either. I'd have been harder pressed to make a call on the second one, but I'd be hard pressed to argue the decision too.

Zzippy · 10-01-2016 4:35pm

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

If you are holding the ball, its a try if you 'touch' the ground.
If you are not holding the ball, its a try if the ball is on the ground, and you 'press down'. Touching the ball is not enough in this case, but touching the ground is enough if you are in full control of the ball.

If the ball is loose and you touch the ball hard enough that it bounces up off the ground, that's enough downward pressure to award a try.

The Rape of Lucretia · 10-01-2016 4:35pm

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

You're right. Looked at it a few times now and I'm not really definite there was downward pressure. The ball was bouncing up and at best you could only say he got glancing contact.

A bouncing ball is not on the ground.

wp_rathead · 10-01-2016 4:37pm

stupid from Aly

aimee1 · 10-01-2016 4:37pm

thats just thick from muldowney

CMOTDibbler · 10-01-2016 4:39pm

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

A bouncing ball is not on the ground.

There is a point when a bouncing ball is on the ground.

I'm not arguing that it's a try btw. Close call but he never seemed to trap the ball which would confirm downward pressure.

10-01-2016 4:39pm

Two pathetic kicks in less than a minute.

wp_rathead · 10-01-2016 4:40pm

all from two sloppy kicks by Ronaldson...

10-01-2016 4:40pm

Woeful.

Game should have been over at HT... Losing within 5mins.

Clegg · 10-01-2016 4:40pm

Well that's crap from Connacht.

Inspector Coptoor · 10-01-2016 4:41pm

For feck sake

That's just terrible.

Poor kicking and poor scramble defence

Zzippy · 10-01-2016 4:41pm

Too casual by Ronaldson, need to clear your lines quicker than that

vienne86 · 10-01-2016 4:41pm

Ah dreadful sequence there by Connacht. Lots of errors.

Crimsonforce · 10-01-2016 4:41pm

Brainfarts.

Game should have been dead and buried at half time

CMOTDibbler · 10-01-2016 4:42pm

Handy penalty there.

wp_rathead · 10-01-2016 4:43pm

13-13
c'mon tafuq

OldRio · 10-01-2016 4:44pm

Great stuff.

Utopia Parkway · 10-01-2016 4:44pm

Connacht have been brutal in the red zone recently. Getting in plenty of good positions but not converting them into enough tries.

wp_rathead · 10-01-2016 4:44pm

GMAN BUNDEE

Zzippy · 10-01-2016 4:44pm

Well done Bundee!

Diabhal Beag · 10-01-2016 4:45pm

Fair play to Ronaldson there and Aki

OldRio · 10-01-2016 4:46pm

P1ease

LuckyGent88 · 10-01-2016 4:46pm

So close again. Great pressure though.

Bazzo · 10-01-2016 4:46pm

That's more like it. Have to stop checking this.. player is about a minute behind...

Zzippy · 10-01-2016 4:47pm

Hometown decision!!!

vienne86 · 10-01-2016 4:48pm

Ah that was clever by TOH.

OldRio · 10-01-2016 4:49pm

Great pressure by Connacht

Clegg · 10-01-2016 4:49pm

Stupid from Healy.

wp_rathead · 10-01-2016 4:49pm

Hmmm maybe Healy shouldnt have kicked that

aimee1 · 10-01-2016 4:49pm

why kick there ffs?

vienne86 · 10-01-2016 4:50pm

Ronaldson - great kick.

connachta · 10-01-2016 4:50pm

Craig's brillant!

vienne86 · 10-01-2016 4:51pm

connachta wrote: »

Craig's brillant!

Healy's brilliant!

wp_rathead · 10-01-2016 4:51pm

Healy pace again

d-gal · 10-01-2016 4:51pm

TOH must be well pissed off that he's not in the Irish training squad. Been the best fullback in Ireland this season. Some who are ahead of him (think Munster) is an absolute joke

Btw, anyone else think Muldoon needs to shut up some times? Seems to annoy a lot of refs and throws his hands up in the air a lil too often. Muldowney constantly trying to calm him!

Hagz · 10-01-2016 4:51pm

Just keep dishing it out to Healy.

wp_rathead · 10-01-2016 4:52pm

Dillane lucky not a yellow

Diabhal Beag · 10-01-2016 4:53pm

You can tell he only didn't hand out a card to save his College Road parking privileges.

Bazzo · 10-01-2016 4:53pm

Surely Marmion was held before that penalty? You could see his jersey pulling away as he was trying to run at the ball.

wp_rathead · 10-01-2016 4:54pm

peach of a kick by Carty
he has been very good

vienne86 · 10-01-2016 4:54pm

Some smashing kicking for territory by Connacht.

Connacht Rugby Thread - Part III - The Violence of the Lams

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