Connacht Rugby Thread - Part III - The Violence of the Lams

ClanofLams

Now get the f**kin restart right! Also Matt Healy is class!

Diabhal Beag

Connacht twitter better not jinx us again

Borders no.2

F me what a miss.

Swan Curry

hahaha holy **** he didn't

i think someone's a bit upset

Buer

F*ck sake Carty.

wp_rathead

****e Jack Carty ya need get them ones mate

ClanofLams

ah jaysus carty

connemara man

Where on the pitch was the conversion?

Swan Curry

connemara man wrote: »

Where on the pitch was the conversion?

Just to the right of the posts, very easy

Borders no.2

I don't trust this ref. I see a dodgy penalty coming here.

Buer

connemara man wrote: »

Where on the pitch was the conversion?

Took it from about 5m to the right hand side (looking at posts) on the 22.

wp_rathead

Swan Curry wrote: »

Just to the right of the posts, very easy

Wasn't VERY easy. About 10 metres from right hand post. But he should be getting them

****e penalty for Brive now

Euphoriasean

Ah hear!!

Buer

And there's the penalty....kick here to win it for Brive.

Inspector Coptoor

Ref giving them chance to win.

Shocking

Buer

Oh that's bitter.

Diabhal Beag

Only Connnacht could've lost that match.

Buer

Inspector Coptoor wrote: »

Ref giving them chance to win.

Shocking

Would need to see if again but on first look, the Connacht scrum was under pressure and creaking when the thing went down.

connachta

Who cares? with 20 points we would be through away QF anyway. Not important AT ALL

Borders no.2

We deserved that defeat. Absolutely chronic performance. We could still win the group next week but once again throw away a situation where a win was inevitable to a draw and where we just needed to keep it tight for the draw we mess up again.

BrokenMan

Basic errors have now cost us 2 important games.
Things need to turn around very quickly or the season will slip away.

irishbucsfan

The great news is that thanks to Enisei's antics up on the geordie shore, Connacht just need a win next week to go through as group winners.

wp_rathead

13 points left out there by our place kickers AND we played muck
How we got a LBP is beyond me tbh ha

Muldoon was immense though - deserves special praise

irishbucsfan

connachta wrote: »

Who cares? with 20 points we would be through away QF anyway. Not important AT ALL

All the group winners get home QFs, do they not?

EDIT: No, I am stupid

Zzippy

wp_rathead wrote: »

Wasn't VERY easy. About 10 metres from right hand post. But he should be getting them

****e penalty for Brive now

If they had a halftime competition on a windy night at the Sportsground some lad in a pair of runners would kick that. Inexcusable!

If there's any consolation from this it's that we surely can never play so badly again. What utter tripe! Whatever money we free up from the Henshaw move simply HAS to go on a reliable kicker.

Borders no.2

connachta wrote: »

Who cares? with 20 points we would be through away QF anyway. Not important AT ALL

Extremely important, we are playing Scarlets in 2 weeks and we are stuck in a complete rut. We are losing games we should have cruised, we are back to our old habit of losing games at the death. I'm seriously concerned by the pile of muck we served up there tonight.

3 tries to nil and we find a way to lose against a piss poor patched up Brive side.

aimee1

thats well tough. But beat enisei and hope newcastle beat Brive

Borders no.2

irishbucsfan wrote: »

All the group winners get home QFs, do they not?

No 5 group winners and we could be number 5. By my calculations we now need Newcastle to deny Brive a 4 try bonus which they probably should do to win the group. That will more than likely get us 5th seed and an away quarter final. If we win that it would be a home semi-final but far too worried about that performance at the moment to worry about that.

connachta

Borders no.2 wrote: »

Extremely important, we are playing Scarlets in 2 weeks and we are stuck in a complete rut. We are losing games we should have cruised, we are back to our old habit of losing games at the death. I'm seriously concerned by the pile of muck we served up there tonight.

3 tries to nil and we find a way to lose against a piss poor patched up Brive side.

Frustration makes you better. What happened twice won't happen thrice. Especially without away refereeing

aimee1

connachta wrote: »

Frustration makes you better. What happened twice won't happen thrice. Especially without away refereeing

you cant blame refs when your team miss 5 kicks was it?

Borders no.2

aimee1 wrote: »

thats well tough. But beat enisei and hope newcastle beat Brive

Bad as the finish was getting within 4 was important as it gives us the better of the head to head if we are even on points. 5 points any which way against Enisei and Brive don't get a 5 pointer away to Newcastle and we win the pool.

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BrokenMan

connachta wrote: »

Frustration makes you better. What happened twice won't happen thrice. Especially without away refereeing

Ah come on the ref had nothing to do with that mess.

connachta

Borders no.2 wrote: »

No 5 group winners and we could be number 5. By my calculations we now need Newcastle to deny Brive a 4 try bonus which they probably should do to win the group. That will more than likely get us 5th seed and an away quarter final. If we win that it would be a home semi-final.

Exactly! We would have been in the same situation with 22 points (a win without BP today) 20 (a draw) or 19 (as we should be next week).
Whatever Brive does next week we'll be last pool winner or one of the best 2nd. Which means away QF.

No regret tonight, a huge win : 3 tries, no injuries (JHW concussion aside)

Borders no.2

connachta wrote: »

Frustration makes you better. What happened twice won't happen thrice. Especially without away refereeing

The problem is it keeps happening dating back to Cardiff away. We should have cruised that game. We had an unlucky break in terms of scrum halfs but it was a game we should have had wrapped up, Ulster we had the impetus to at least get a draw and the last couple of weeks is hard to explain how we've screwed them up.

I won't be feeling any way confident if it comes down to the wire against Scarlets.

Clegg

Contriving to lose at the death in successive fixtures is a bit of a concern.

connachta

aimee1 wrote: »

you cant blame refs when your team miss 5 kicks was it?

I didn't blame him, just implied tied games will come to the right side at home more easily. No pressure

connachta

Borders no.2 wrote: »

The problem is it keeps happening dating back to Cardiff away. We should have cruised that game. We had an unlucky break in terms of scrum halfs but it was a game we should have had wrapped up, Ulster we had the impetus to at least get a draw and the last couple of weeks is hard to explain how we've screwed them up.

I won't be feeling any way confident if it comes down to the wire against Scarlets.

I am. Except Muldowney tired, I can't see any of our 1st team players having played bad tonight.

Muldoon and Carty brillant, TOH Healy Aki and Poolman good, McCartney and Dillane ok

Add White, Ronaldson, Marmion, Buckley-with-gametime-after-injury, maybe Henshaw, and Jake Heenan. And that will be a completly different story against Scarlets.
Keep it cool

Billysays no

wp_rathead wrote: »

13 points left out there by our place kickers AND we played muck
How we got a LBP is beyond me tbh ha

Muldoon was immense though - deserves special praise

Wouldnt normally agree with that but as muck went john was one of the few who managed to clean his face

Padkir

If that was a league game I think the tears would have been out by the end of it...

aimee1

connachta wrote: »

I didn't blame him, just implied tied games will come to the right side at home more easily. No pressure

but if connacht took the multiple opportunities then your home team theory [ i think thats what you are saying here] doesnt come into it.

how many times have connacht now done this?

Zzippy

connachta wrote: »

I am. Except Muldowney tired, I can't see any of our 1st team players having played bad tonight.

Muldoon and Carty brillant, TOH Healy Aki and Poolman good, McCartney and Dillane ok

Add White, Ronaldson, Marmion, Buckley-with-gametime-after-injury, maybe Henshaw, and Jake Heenan. And that will be a completly different story against Scarlets.
Keep it cool

Carty brilliant? You must be joking... one good break. Poor kicking from hand, and that miss at the end! Brilliant my ar$e...

Billysays no

connachta wrote: »

I am. Except Muldowney tired, I can't see any of our 1st team players having played bad tonight.

Muldoon and Carty brillant, TOH Healy Aki and Poolman good, McCartney and Dillane ok

Add White, Ronaldson, Marmion, Buckley-with-gametime-after-injury, maybe Henshaw, and Jake Heenan. And that will be a completly different story against Scarlets.
Keep it cool

connachta, you continue to miss the point. we add a player here, we lose a player there. who gives a crap. my opinion about one player is as relevant as your opinion about another player. reality is win or lose. and tonight really brought that point home.

is it leader, is it toh. so many would say toh these days. who cares. its not about leader, its not about toh, its about the team. we are losing for a reason. lets start there

connachta

Zzippy wrote: »

Carty brilliant? You must be joking... one good break. Poor kicking from hand, and that miss at the end! Brilliant my ar$e...

Kicks from hand were ok. One conversion and one restart are the only points you can reproach IMO.

Zzippy

connachta wrote: »

Kicks from hand were ok. One conversion and one restart are the only points you can reproach IMO.

No they weren't, he kicked one away when we had turnover ball and their defence wasn't set, he kicked more straight down their throats, he didn't pin them back at all, the restart was awful and the conversion was unforgivable. He was a long way from brilliant, not even ok as you seem to have downgraded him to...

connachta

Billysays no wrote: »

connachta, you continue to miss the point. we add a player here, we lose a player there. who gives a crap. my opinion about one player is as relevant as your opinion about another player. reality is win or lose. and tonight really brought that point home.

is it leader, is it toh. so many would say toh these days. who cares. its not about leader, its not about toh, its about the team. we are losing for a reason. lets start there

Disagree
Henshaw and Heenan for exemple can turn a game by themselves.
What I'm saying is that as we were so so close to win away to Cardiff, Scarlets and Brive, if you add the home advantage + a few quality players to full fitness, we should be ok.

I think you all overestimate the "psychological" part (which is true, but only one element among others)

BrokenMan

connachta wrote: »

Kicks from hand were ok. One conversion and one restart are the only points you can reproach IMO.

Are you forgetting about the pass to Muldowneys laces straight after coming on.

connachta

Zzippy wrote: »

No they weren't, he kicked one away when we had turnover ball and their defence wasn't set, he kicked more straight down their throats, he didn't pin them back at all, the restart was awful and the conversion was unforgivable. He was a long way from brilliant, not even ok as you seem to have downgraded him to...

He was brillant in open play.

connachta

BrokenMan wrote: »

Are you forgetting about the pass to Muldowneys laces straight after coming on.

Oh, I thought it wasn't him... Apologies, that was bad indeed

connachta

Whatever you think about Carty, you can't deny our backline was very fluid tonight, TOH Healy Aki and Poolman are well up to it. Add Henshaw and Ronaldson. I'm confident about this.

Billysays no

connachta wrote: »

Whatever you think about Carty, you can't deny our backline was very fluid tonight, TOH Healy Aki and Poolman are well up to it. Add Henshaw and Ronaldson. I'm confident about this.

i just so dont agree. toh was rubbish. we have no working centre partnership. both mcginty and carty are awful. otherwise i agree. but i'm just not sure whats left to agree with.