Connacht Rugby Thread - Part III - The Violence of the Lams

Bazzo

ThisRegard wrote: »

I asked this the other night, but it looked like a compound fracture to me, what I thought looked like his bone was protruding from his leg. If it was, he won't be coming back any time soon.

Really? Didn't notice that myself, in fact I thought he went down with relatively minor contact with anyone. It looked/sounded painful but I'm hopeful it's something a bit more minor than a compound fracture.

ThisRegard

Yeah, me too as I rewound a couple of times to see what happened. And between the reaction of the other players, and what looks like bone in this photo, it had me thinking it's a compound fracture.

S12b

ThisRegard wrote: »

I asked this the other night, but it looked like a compound fracture to me, what I thought looked like his bone was protruding from his leg. If it was, he won't be coming back any time soon.

I thought the exact same thing and was screaming at the broadcasters to take the camera off him, I thought half his leg bone was sticking out of his thigh.....but thankfully it was just a piece of brown tape from his thigh strapping sticking up at a funny angle.

ThisRegard

Ah, I was hoping it might have just been tape, here's another photo. Don't mind the big finger pointing to it as I was having this same discussion with someone at the time.

Bazzo

Hmm, maybe, I'm still not convinced. A break to the femur is really rare because it's one of the thickest bones in the body and I'd imagine a compound fracture would be pretty much unheard of.

I think more likely we're looking at ligaments/tendon damage here which as we know can be painful as ****(POC) and can happen without much contact as well. Hopefully he's alright anyway as he's been one of the standouts of the season for me.

S12b

Bazzo wrote: »

Hmm, maybe, I'm still not convinced. A break to the femur is really rare because it's one of the thickest bones in the body and I'd imagine a compound fracture would be pretty much unheard of.

I think more likely we're looking at ligaments/tendon damage here which as we know can be painful as ****(POC) and can happen without much contact as well. Hopefully he's alright anyway as he's been one of the standouts of the season for me.

I suppose all we can do is hope they can fix whatever the damage was and get him back on the pitch better than ever.....I'd say Eoghan is the standout candidate to our next long term captain....just a natural leader.

And to put a positive spin on it, while a player never wants to miss months at a time with a serious injury.....it will give him a prolonged period of time to focus on the gym and the body. He clearly has the brains so an extra 3 or 4kgs of muscle could be just what he needs to drive on to the national set-up.

Zzippy

Bit macabre looking for a protruding bone! I thought it was a knee injury, almost certainly torn ligaments. If he's lucky just medial/collateral, but quite possibly ACL. Hopefully back for the start of next season. He's been a revelation this year, I thought he was outstanding in may games but particularly Ospreys away. Best of luck to him with the recovery

MarinersBlues

My first thought when I saw the way his knee moved was ACL.

NiallBoo

Bazzo wrote: »

Hmm, maybe, I'm still not convinced. A break to the femur is really rare because it's one of the thickest bones in the body and I'd imagine a compound fracture would be pretty much unheard of.

This.

They also would have been much quicker to get him off the pitch if it had.
Fractured femurs have a pretty high mortality rate (lots of internal bleeding and what-not).

connachta

Zzippy wrote: »

Bit macabre looking for a protruding bone! I thought it was a knee injury, almost certainly torn ligaments. If he's lucky just medial/collateral, but quite possibly ACL. Hopefully back for the start of next season. He's been a revelation this year, I thought he was outstanding in may games but particularly Ospreys away. Best of luck to him with the recovery

no not ACL:mad::mad:

evil_seed

was the official word not that it was a knee injury but xrays were inconclusive do anything and more scans were to be done

Zzippy

Yep, knee injury was the initial word, confirming what looked like it on tv. I'll be very surprised if it's not ACL. Best case scenario for that is probably return in 8 months depending on how surgery/rehab goes.

connachta

Zzippy wrote: »

Yep, knee injury was the initial word, confirming what looked like it on tv. I'll be very surprised if it's not ACL. Best case scenario for that is probably return in 8 months depending on how surgery/rehab goes.

I just hope he'll be fully fit for the 1st ChampionsCup game in October

ClanofLams

connachta wrote: »

I just hope he'll be fully fit for the 1st ChampionsCup game in October

That's the spirit!

Zzippy

connachta wrote: »

I just hope he'll be fully fit for the 1st ChampionsCup game in October

Right, who are you, you optimistic sod, and what have you done with Connachta?!!

connachta

Zzippy wrote: »

Right, who are you, you optimistic sod, and what have you done with Connachta?!!

Sorry about that, I can't help dreaming about Vunipola VS Masterson behind the scrums, will be grand:pac:

Diabhal Beag

I'm hoping we get Wasps. Dai Young has a stupid name and I hope we tear them to bits exclusively because of it.

former total

Zzippy wrote: »

Right, who are you, you optimistic sod, and what have you done with Connachta?!!

It is connachta. He's just so pessimistic that he's assuming Masterson will be at one of the other provinces, playing Champions Cup...

connachta

former total wrote: »

It is connachta. He's just so pessimistic that he's assuming Masterson will be at one of the other provinces, playing Champions Cup...

didin't think about that one, I regret:D

Billysays no

So top of the pro12. Now I don't know about anybody else but this week is the first week that I dream of better. Yes it has been a hugely successful season. So its time to dream. But then its time to worry. So yes we are top of the pile. I think we are getting to the point of a dream. But its the same for the players. Yes they have worked their hearts out for this but (being a bit of a golf dude) its so hard down the finishing straight to finish the argument. This is when the supporter becomes important.

oneofakind32

Lads, we are top of the league and we are still worried about not making the Champions cup. Do you think Munster and Leinster fans are losing sleep over not making the champions cup? They are not, it hasn't even crossed their mind yet. Connacht's lack of complacency will stand to them in the coming weeks.

If we get a home semi(in either the pro12 of challenge cup) what are the chances of Salthill being used? Ticket sales are on the up, Leinster and Munster at home are guaranteed sell outs. Having a semi at the sports ground would mean loosing out on potential ticket sales. And, if I'm not mistaken, a pro12 semi final venue needs to accommodate 10,000 fans. It would also serve as a good test run for Salthill as a potential World Cup venue.

oneofakind32

Sorry to bring up Henshaw again but they talked about him a bit on this week Egg Chasers Rugby podcast. I have to say, I didn't feel too aggrieved about it up until now but the more I think about it, the more it stinks.

Yeah, Robby made his own decision, but maybe the IRFU should not have given him the option. Leinster certainly were trying to woe him but I find it very hard to believe the IRFU were completely impartial. Someone, somewhere in the IRFU must have given him a nudge.

If it was the reverse situation what would happen? Do you think if Gary Ringrose or Ian Madigan for whatever hypothetical reason wanted to come and play for Connacht that Leinster and the IRFU would be half as accommodating?

All this talk of more player movement is complete BS. They are only going one way. Then they wonder why players leave then when they don't get game time. If you had left Keatly at Connacht 4 years ago you could argue that both Munster and Connacht would be in a better position now.

We have to make the most of our opportunity this season because I'm worried that our squad could be gutted over the summer and we might not get a shot at silver ware again for a long time. Winning a home semi in front of a big crowd in Salthill would send a real message to the IRFU and the Irish media that "We are not here to take part, we are here to take over" as Conor McGregor said.

Zzippy

oneofakind32 wrote: »

Lads, we are top of the league and we are still worried about not making the Champions cup. Do you think Munster and Leinster fans are losing sleep over not making the champions cup? They are not, it hasn't even crossed their mind yet. Connacht's lack of complacency will stand to them in the coming weeks.

If we get a home semi(in either the pro12 of challenge cup) what are the chances of Salthill being used? Ticket sales are on the up, Leinster and Munster at home are guaranteed sell outs. Having a semi at the sports ground would mean loosing out on potential ticket sales. And, if I'm not mistaken, a pro12 semi final venue needs to accommodate 10,000 fans. It would also serve as a good test run for Salthill as a potential World Cup venue.

Have you looked at the table? I'd say Munster fans would be worried enough... you're right though, we should not be even thinking like that from top of the table.

Also, no chance of Salthill being used. The GAA agreed to their stadia being used for RWC23 if the bid is successful. There is no agreement for games before that.

thomond2006

oneofakind32 wrote: »

Yeah, Robby made his own decision, but maybe the IRFU should not have given him the option. Leinster certainly were trying to woe him but I find it very hard to believe the IRFU were completely impartial. Someone, somewhere in the IRFU must have given him a nudge.

Henshaw would have done a Sexton 2013 and said 'Screw this, I'm off". The IRFU aren't in a position to play this kind of hardball anymore.

calico77

oneofakind32 wrote: »

If it was the reverse situation what would happen? Do you think if Gary Ringrose or Ian Madigan for whatever hypothetical reason wanted to come and play for Connacht that Leinster and the IRFU would be half as accommodating? .

If a prominent player wished to stay in Ireland but at a different province (who wanted him) then i doubt the IRFU would block it if he had viable options abroad.

errlloyd

oneofakind32 wrote: »

Lads, we are top of the league and we are still worried about not making the Champions cup. Do you think Munster and Leinster fans are losing sleep over not making the champions cup? They are not, it hasn't even crossed their mind yet. Connacht's lack of complacency will stand to them in the coming weeks.

As a Leinster fan at this stage last season I was ****ting bricks.

b.gud

errlloyd wrote: »

As a Leinster fan at this stage last season I was ****ting bricks.

Would I be right in saying that ye weren't top of the table at this stage though?

sydthebeat

b.gud wrote: »

Would I be right in saying that ye weren't top of the table at this stage though?

at this stage we were 3rd, 3 points off 1st and 2nd, though glasgow had a game in hand

but we were playing rubbish rugby

4 rounds later we were 5th

former total

sydthebeat wrote: »

at this stage we were 3rd, 3 points off 1st and 2nd, though glasgow had a game in hand

but we were playing rubbish rugby

4 rounds later we were 5th

But we were never in any real danger of missing out on Europe. Got a sh*tty enough pool draw though... and actually, that's what Connacht should be focussing on, every place they slip down increases their chances of a hellish draw next season.

sydthebeat

former total wrote: »

But we were never in any real danger of missing out on Europe. Got a sh*tty enough pool draw though... and actually, that's what Connacht should be focussing on, every place they slip down increases their chances of a hellish draw next season.

to be honest... ANY draw in the champions cup next season for connacht is going to be a hellish draw.

Look at this years competition, 1 group was won by the tier 4 team.
2 groups won by tier 3 teams. 2 tier 4 teams making the quarters.
3 tier 1 teams NOT making the quarters....

there is no draw thats easier for connacht the way the competition is structured now.

they should be solely focused on pro12 play off placing and be aiming for silverware.

b.gud

Connacht v Ospreys
At Sportsground, 7.35pm Live on TG4
Referee: George Clancy (IRFU, 76th competition game)
Assistant Referees: Andy Brace, John Carvill (both IRFU)
Citing Commissioner: Tim Lowry (IRFU)
TMO: Jude Quinn (IRFU)

KBurke85

b.gud wrote: »

Connacht v Ospreys
At Sportsground, 7.35pm Live on TG4
Referee: George Clancy (IRFU, 76th competition game)
Assistant Referees: Andy Brace, John Carvill (both IRFU)
Citing Commissioner: Tim Lowry (IRFU)
TMO: Jude Quinn (IRFU)

Damn It

connachta

KBurke85 wrote: »

Damn It

if he's a homer like he was in the RDS, it's ok:p

calico77

connachta wrote: »

if he's a homer like he was in the RDS, it's ok:p

Not if connacht play like they played in the RDS

wp_rathead

I'm pretty worried about Webb and Underhill vs Blade and a non-specialist openside (assuming Heenan is out)

Also Sam Davies is a very competent OH

No injury update from Connacht yet?
Could do with Cooney bein back on bench

connachta

Feel this one badly is Marmion+Heenan+Ronaldson aren't in.
They can change the game in our favour

connachta

Connacht rule Masterson out for season, awaiting results of extent of knee injury. Heenan(hip)Ronaldson (knee) McKeon (ankle) monitored. Linley McKenzie

Digifriendly

b.gud wrote: »

Connacht v Ospreys
At Sportsground, 7.35pm Live on TG4
Referee: George Clancy (IRFU, 76th competition game)
Assistant Referees: Andy Brace, John Carvill (both IRFU)
Citing Commissioner: Tim Lowry (IRFU)
TMO: Jude Quinn (IRFU)

Remember its TG4 via red button on Saorview/UPC/Virgin (advertised as such on TV listings) and almost certainly will not be on satellite.

connachta

Gents
@kellyhaimona
@EoghanMasterson @connachtrugby wishing you all the best and a speedy recovery!!!!
EoghanMasterson
Thanks so much to all who sent messages after yesterday's game. In particular staff and players of @ZebreRugby who helped me with my injury.

former total

Digifriendly wrote: »

Remember its TG4 via red button on Saorview/UPC/Virgin (advertised as such on TV listings) and almost certainly will not be on satellite.

Virgin (UPC) are carrying it on channel 602, normally reserved for "Cúla4".

This Saorview red button is a new one on me, I have Sky so I'll be giving it a lash.

TG4.ie will also be streaming it.

Number 137

Very disappointed for Masterson. Watched him a few times as a youths player and he was clearly very talented even then. Hopefully his recovery and rehab go well and he'll be back even stronger next season!

oneofakind32

I'v got it Bein Sports USA here this weekend with English commentary, thank god. So TG4 have figured out the red button, I don't suppose they would have English commentary under the blue button, like S4C? They could put Rob Murphy and the GBFM boys on there, save us trying to sync the radio and the TV.

Billysays no

oneofakind32 wrote: »

I'v got it Bein Sports USA here this weekend with English commentary, thank god. So TG4 have figured out the red button, I don't suppose they would have English commentary under the blue button, like S4C? They could put Rob Murphy and the GBFM boys on there, save us trying to sync the radio and the TV.

To stream BEIN to your PC just download KODI to your PC and follow the youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-JB3cBJLV4 which shows how to configure and play the streams in KODI

b.gud

http://inpho.ie/assignment/Connacht-Rugby-Squad-Training-Tuesday/UiWGkB_9Wgmce6cCV0X57w..a?ts=yYhc6xlZWfC1onqJnRQIWw..a

A few things I noticed from these photos
Looks like Ronaldson was taking some part in training.
Romaine is training with the senior squad
Roux and Finn both look to be taking part in training
Heenan looks to have sat out todays session
Perhaps the biggest shock of all is that it seems to be bright and DRY! :eek:

connachta

please Heenan and Roux!!!!!!

wp_rathead

Fecking Animal:



Anyhow: Roux's ankle still looked heavily strapped - rather not rush him back if can be avoided. Aly and Marshall in second row seem decent partnership. Looks like George gonna be needed at 8 with Masterson and McKeon out so we could well see Romaine make debut off the bench to cover second row?

James Connolly 7 and George 8 with Sean O'Brien on bench?

Bazzo

wp_rathead wrote: »

Fecking Animal:



Anyhow: Roux's ankle still looked heavily strapped - rather not rush him back if can be avoided. Aly and Marshall in second row seem decent partnership. Looks like George gonna be needed at 8 with Masterson and McKeon out so we could well see Romaine make debut off the bench to cover second row?

James Connolly 7 and George 8 with Sean O'Brien on bench?

Is McKeon injured?

wp_rathead

Bazzo wrote: »

Is McKeon injured?

https://twitter.com/linleymackenzie/status/702117122508464128

Bazzo

Oh, ok. Hopefully it's something minor and he's back soon. He played 80 minutes at the weekend didn't he?

Seems like just when we're getting back to full strength the injuries start rolling in again....

MarinersBlues

Right lads here we go. Hopefully this will steer conversation into a realistic vein rather than overly pessimistic/optimistic.

Worst case scenario as I see it - we are finish just outside the top 4.
Any win against Ospreys or Edinburgh virtually guarantees top 6 and a great shot at top 4.

I am REALLY looking forward to the next few weeks.

Pos Team Current R16 R17 R18 R19 R20 R21 R22 R9 R12 Total
Ospreys (h) Edin (a) Leinster (h) Ulster (a) Munster (h) Treviso (a) Glasgow (h)
1 Connacht 50 1 4 1 1 4 5 1 67
Zebre (a) Ospreys (h) Connacht (a) Munster (h) Edin (h) Ulster (a) Treviso (h) Glasgow (a)
2 Leinster 48 5 4 4 4 4 1 5 4 79
Edin (a) Treviso (h) Ospreys (a) Blues (h) Glasgow (h) Dragons (a) Munster (a)
3 Scarlets 48 4 5 1 4 1 4 1 71
Blues (a) Zebre (h) Glasgow (a) Connacht (h) Zebre (a) Leinster (h) Ospreys (a)
4 Ulster 46 4 4 1 4 4 4 1 68
Scarlets (h) Connacht (h) Dragons (a) Zebre(h) Leinster (a) Munster (a) Blues (h)
5 Edinburgh 38 1 1 1 5 0 1 4 51
Connacht (a) Leinster (a) Scarlets (h) Dragons (a) Treviso (h) Blues (a) Ulster (h)
6 Ospreys 38 4 1 4 5 5 4 4 65
Treviso (a) Dragons (h) Zebre (h) Leinster (a) Connacht (a) Edin (h) Scarlets (h) Blues (a)
7 Munster 38 4 4 5 1 1 4 4 4 65
Dragons (a) Blues (h) Ulster (h) Treviso (a) Scarlets (a) Zebre (h) Connacht (a) Leinster(h) Zebre(a)
8 Glasgow 35 4 4 4 5 4 5 4 1 5 69


I have gone for the slightly pessimistic side of my actual opinion. For example I think we will win one of the Edinburgh or Ospreys but picked the worst way around.