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"Bomb" clock kid wants $15 million

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Could they just not quote anti terror laws on that.

    I don't know if they could have, but they didn't anyway so it's moot

    Police said they knew at an early stage that he had no malicious intent, yet they still decided to ignore his rights and interrogate him illegally. His principal threatened to expel him from school unless he signed a written statement, all without any legal rep.

    They fcuked up big time. The kid is dead right to sue.

    It's funny that so many are having a go at him and his parents for doing so. I guess if their own rights were trampled on they'd be happy to just bend over and accept it, like the pathetic servile runts they are


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    Here's what can happen when you set off an alarm clock in school.
    Senior prank lands two behind bars

    TROUTMAN, N.C. -- South Iredell High School was evacuated Tuesday morning after police say a senior prank prompted a bomb search.

    Dan Farrell's daughter Shannon Farrell is one of two students arrested.

    He said, "I was called by my younger daughter saying my older daughter was taken away by the cops."

    Farrell says his daughter told him about the prank to put alarm clocks in the unused locker and have them go off at different times. He said he thought it was harmless.

    Troutman Police Chief Matthew Selves said, "We take this pretty seriously."

    Seniors Shannon Farrell and Lekia Hall now face a felony charge of hoax by use of a false bomb in a public building, a "Class H" felony and obstruction of justice.

    http://www.wcnc.com/story/news/local/2015/05/26/s-iredell-high-school-evacuated/27955409/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    I don't know if they could have, but they didn't anyway so it's moot

    Police said they knew at an early stage that he had no malicious intent, yet they still decided to ignore his rights and interrogate him illegally. His principal threatened to expel him from school unless he signed a written statement, all without any legal rep.

    They fcuked up big time. The kid is dead right to sue.

    It's funny that so many are having a go at him and his parents for doing so. I guess if their own rights were trampled on they'd be happy to just bend over and accept it, like the pathetic servile runts they are

    I would not have taken a clock apart put it in a different package and said I invented something. And after being told not to show it around plug it in and let it go off in another class his colour religion has zero to do with anything. The whole premise is whether the teacher thought it was the intent to look like a bomb. Hoax bombs are illegal in that state.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I would not have taken a clock apart put it in a different package and said I invented something. And after being told not to show it around plug it in and let it go off in another class his colour religion has zero to do with anything. The whole premise is whether the teacher thought it was the intent to look like a bomb. Hoax bombs are illegal in that state.

    Good for you I guess, but none of that changes the fact that the kid in this case was illegally questioned and coerced into signing a statement by way of threats.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Good for you I guess, but none of that changes the fact that the kid in this case was illegally questioned and coerced into signing a statement by way of threats.

    Don't the courts decide that ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    meepins wrote: »
    From all we know now about him, his father and his sister we can clearly see that this incident was set up deliberately to provoke this type of reaction.
    .

    .....for all we know about him, it wasn't. For all we know about him he may be an Alien, for all we know about him, he may not be, and so on..
    meepins wrote: »
    They knew they could count on the leftie media and sjws to do exactly what they always do at the drop of a hat...

    So we've moved from "maybe" to using definite terms.
    meepins wrote: »
    This never would have happened with a white kid ............

    God no. The "leftie media" and "sjws" are out for whiteys blood, so they are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭meepins


    God no. The "leftie media" and "sjws" are out for whiteys blood, so they are.

    Of course. This is great Nodin, you're finally making some progress.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭meepins


    Saadyst wrote: »
    A white kid would be expelled for bringing a homemade clock into school? :rolleyes:

    That narrative, that it was homemade and was innocently brought to school, was torn apart quite quickly after the story came out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭saintsaltynuts


    Get the RA to make a bomb and stick it up the little bollox'is arse.The ungrateful bastid.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    meepins wrote: »
    That narrative, that it was homemade and was innocently brought to school, was torn apart quite quickly after the story came out

    It was? News to quite a few of us. You have some source?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    All the little creep deserves is a slap round the head and so do his parents, the grasping chancers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,136 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    Aim high

    Ask for 15 million and they settle for 4 or 5, ask for 1 million and in all likelihood he would have got a couple of hundred thousand. I'd like to see how quickly the high horses in here would be Shergar-ed if those people were put in the same situation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    All the little creep deserves is a slap round the head and so do his parents, the grasping chancers.

    I'm sure you'd be the one to give it to them too, eh? Tough guy that you are :pac:

    The little 'creep' will do better in his life than most here I bet


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    I guess if their own rights were trampled on they'd be happy to just bend over and accept it, like the pathetic servile runts they are

    Easy up man.

    Maybe you can explain how he incurred $15 million worth of injury/distress. I assume the parents had to be called away from work, so that would add up to a couple of hundred in lost earnings. And the clock was confiscated, so say maybe $30 worth of kit. I'll let you take it from there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    They fcuked up big time.
    They did indeed, quite foolish of them to fall for this goading little cunt's scheme. The moment I read about it I figured there was something more to it. As I said before it was sad to see Dawkins back away from it.

    People say it wouldn't have happened it he was white, it probably would if it was in the times of the troubles over here. I could imagine police giving the some little runt a good scare -bit nowadays they should be more aware of the whole sue & media culture.

    He was a bit stupid that he did not actually make a convincing effort of making a clock, would have been far more believable, but probably did not expect it to all blow up like it did -pardon the pun. Probably kicking himself now.
    wes wrote: »
    As for the various accusations people are making about this being planned, well if such claims are true, then the law suit will be thrown out on that basis.
    This may be very hard to prove in law, even if it's completely obvious to a judge who is not as naive as many appear seem to be, or make out to be. It'd be like if some smart arse little shit made a blatant double entendre to embarass a female teacher and was saying "what, what, I never meant that, that's your filthy mind thinking that" and them all thinking "the little bollix made a prick of us, we have to give the fecker the benefit of the doubt". Just like many criminals have to let off when the judge knows exactly what they were up to.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    What is it about suing that seems to bring out such vitriol on boards? This case, the aer lingus woman and that blind guy etc, people don't agree with it fair enough but so many comments are full of venom and abuse


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    What is it about suing that seems to bring out such vitriol on boards? This case, the aer lingus woman and that blind guy etc, people don't agree with it fair enough but so many comments are full of venom and abuse

    Have you ever sued anyone?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    rubadub wrote: »
    They did indeed, quite foolish of them to fall for this goading little cunt's scheme. The moment I read about it I figured there was something more to it. As I said before it was sad to see Dawkins back away from it.

    People say it wouldn't have happened it he was white, it probably would if it was in the times of the troubles over here. I could imagine police giving the some little runt a good scare -bit nowadays they should be more aware of the whole sue & media culture.

    He was a bit stupid that he did not actually make a convincing effort of making a clock, would have been far more believable, but probably did not expect it to all blow up like it did -pardon the pun. Probably kicking himself now.

    This may be very hard to prove in law, even if it's completely obvious to a judge who is not as naive as many appear seem to be, or make out to be. It'd be like if some smart arse little shit made a blatant double entendre to embarass a female teacher and was saying "what, what, I never meant that, that's your filthy mind thinking that" and them all thinking "the little bollix made a prick of us, we have to give the fecker the benefit of the doubt". Just like many criminals have to let off when the judge knows exactly what they were up to.

    My o my. Not only is the fifteen year old worthy of such abuse, he's also a prodigious evil genius.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 650 ✭✭✭csallmighty


    A gamestop voucher will do him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    What is it about suing that seems to bring out such vitriol on boards?
    If scammers & chancers like these take advantage and get away with it it usually leads to unnecessarily high insurance premiums. Some insurance is obligatory so some would view it as a form of indirect personal theft. The money has to come from somewhere, someone is losing out so even if someone never avails of insurance they might view them in a highly negative way -just like anyone "cheating the system" where there is a victim who loses out.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Nodin wrote: »
    It was? News to quite a few of us. You have some source?

    For a start it was proven to be an alarm clock pretty fast due to the printed circuit board. Having screen printed part numbers. Having a battery backup. And using a mains transformer. Nothing ever suggested it was home made I'm surprised he did not electrocute himself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    rubadub wrote: »
    This may be very hard to prove in law, even if it's completely obvious to a judge who is not as naive as many appear seem to be, or make out to be. It'd be like if some smart arse little shit made a blatant double entendre to embarass a female teacher and was saying "what, what, I never meant that, that's your filthy mind thinking that" and them all thinking "the little bollix made a prick of us, we have to give the fecker the benefit of the doubt". Just like many criminals have to let off when the judge knows exactly what they were up to.

    Yeah the law is inconvenient in that they need stuff like evidence etc to convict someone......

    The lack of proof in regards to claims of this lad planning all this is imho rather telling, and honestly its also rather far fetched, that he could have predicted the over reaction from the school.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    For a start it was proven to be an alarm clock pretty fast due to the printed circuit board. Having screen printed part numbers. Having a battery backup. And using a mains transformer. Nothing ever suggested it was home made I'm surprised he did not electrocute himself.

    "innocently brought to school" is a part of what I was replying to that you seem to have missed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Nodin wrote: »
    "innocently brought to school" is a part of what I was replying to that you seem to have missed.

    I'm sure the American Courts will decide that matter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    I'm sure the American Courts will decide that matter.


    You might take that message to the fellow who seems to think its already been decided.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    I suppose his family can't just live off sand out in Quatar !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭Giruilla


    I would not have taken a clock apart put it in a different package and said I invented something. And after being told not to show it around plug it in and let it go off in another class his colour religion has zero to do with anything. The whole premise is whether the teacher thought it was the intent to look like a bomb. Hoax bombs are illegal in that state.

    This. I for one would not believe he innocently brought it to school.. if I had to guess I'd say it was brought in with the purpose of causing disruption.. especially after his teacher told him not to show it around. He rearranged a mass produced household clock in a manner that clearly looks like a homemade bomb you'd see in a B-movie. The cheek that that family are now telling him to sue.

    I mean - why is the media even still referring to this as a 'homemade' clock... is everyone insane?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭orubiru


    Giruilla wrote: »
    This. I for one would not believe he innocently brought it to school.. if I had to guess I'd say it was brought in with the purpose of causing disruption.. especially after his teacher told him not to show it around. He rearranged a mass produced household clock in a manner that clearly looks like a homemade bomb you'd see in a B-movie. The cheek that that family are now telling him to sue.

    I mean - why is the media even still referring to this as a 'homemade' clock... is everyone insane?!

    He definitely knew it would cause a reaction. I don't think it's fair to say things like "he's not exactly innocent" as he's just a kid and I think we can all agree that kids like to push boundaries and/or play the clown.

    I'm sure he knew he was making a "fake bomb" but I don't think there was malicious intent there. Probably he just wanted to get attention and see how people would react.

    Apparently his older sister had been previously suspended from school over a hoax bomb threat?

    I'm not buying into the idea that this kid had some kind of masterplan to become rich or famous here.

    It seems more like a case of a prank gone wrong (or right, I suppose, if he gets 15 million) and then being twisted and sensationalized by media. Sure, you read stories about kids being suspended over toy guns or knives or whatever. The media have just decided to run with this case.

    If the US courts decide he is due 15 million dollars then fair enough. I don't personally agree with it but it's not my money they are giving away so no big deal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 488 ✭✭The Sun King


    Myself and my girlfriend were stopped in Shannon airport a while back. The fella couldn't tell if it was really her in her passport photo (it very obviously waa her).

    Little did I know I missed out on 15 million! I should have told the guy that not all Asians look the same and called a lawyer. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,733 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    orubiru wrote: »
    He definitely knew it would cause a reaction. I don't think it's fair to say things like "he's not exactly innocent" as he's just a kid and I think we can all agree that kids like to push boundaries and/or play the clown.

    I'm sure he knew he was making a "fake bomb" but I don't think there was malicious intent there. Probably he just wanted to get attention and see how people would react.
    Boyd described Mohamed as "not forthcoming" during an interrogation, stating the teen was "taken into custody for possession of a hoax bomb." However, Boyd said that further investigation "revealed the device apparently was a homemade experiment" and that there was "no evidence to support the perception he intended to create alarm"
    http://www.snopes.com/2015/09/16/ahmed-mohamed/
    orubiru wrote: »

    Apparently his older sister had been previously suspended from school over a hoax bomb threat?
    After the MSNBC segment, Eyman and I sit down in the hallway where she says the same thing happened to her as Ahmed.
    “I got suspended from school for three days from this stupid same district, from this girl saying I wanted to blow up the school, something I had nothing to do with.”
    Eyman talks with the slightest lisp, almost imperceptible, but it becomes stronger as she gets emotional.
    “I got suspended and I didn’t do anything about it and so when I heard about Ahmed, I was so mad because it happened to me and I didn’t get to stand up, so I’m making sure he’s standing up because it’s not right. So I’m not jealous, I’m kinda like—it’s like he’s standing for me.”
    Eyman said her suspension was in her first year of middle school, “my first year of attempting middle school in America. I knew English, but the culture was different, the people were different.”
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/17/man-i-went-viral-my-day-with-ahmed-moahmed-the-most-famous-boy-on-earth.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭Arbiter of Good Taste




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