Where would you go next...

Cyrus

F34 wrote: »

If you’ve any questions please feel free to massage me.

nothing for nothing around here

carsfan2

F34 wrote: »

I’ve a g20 330i and had a 330e as a loan car yesterday while it was cool to drive around in electric mode I thinks it’s a novelty that would wear off very quickly for me. The 30i in sport mode seemed to be a far different animal and a hell of a lot more fun.

If you’re going for a 30i CIP msport plus package is a must for the limited slip and most importantly adaptive suspension or it’s a very very harsh ride. Technology and visibility are the packs I’d go for in that order. The comfort and premium while nice to have don’t make a huge difference to the car.

On mine I have:

Visibility,
Technology,
Premium,
Comfort and
Msport plus package

Driving assistant professional and,
Parking assistant plus

If you’ve any questions please feel free to massage me.

You have every pack going!
Did you buy in Ireland? If so 70k ish I’m guessing.
Sounds like a great car.
How is the refinement/ wind noise etc? I had a couple of f30 models and they were poor for the price point.
I assume the new model is better?

F34

carsfan2 wrote: »

You have every pack going!
Did you buy in Ireland? If so 70k ish I’m guessing.
Sounds like a great car.
How is the refinement/ wind noise etc? I had a couple of f30 models and they were poor for the price point.
I assume the new model is better?

yeah I missed the tow hitch and leather dash option lol

Purchased from same dealer I've been dealing with a number of years list was low 60's and i got a hefty discount off that. I got mine in July last year and the price has jumped a lot since then

The G20 has the acoustic glass and it really does make a difference, the quality of the cabin is a lot better and the idrive has a much better layout

In all honesty yes the G20 is better but they have also skimped on silly things like no sill protectors on the back doors anymore and the finish of the boot just doesn't reflect what it should and did in other years.

CIP4

F34 wrote: »

I’ve a g20 330i and had a 330e as a loan car yesterday while it was cool to drive around in electric mode I thinks it’s a novelty that would wear off very quickly for me. The 30i in sport mode seemed to be a far different animal and a hell of a lot more fun.

If you’re going for a 30i CIP msport plus package is a must for the limited slip and most importantly adaptive suspension or it’s a very very harsh ride. Technology and visibility are the packs I’d go for in that order. The comfort and premium while nice to have don’t make a huge difference to the car.

On mine I have:

Visibility,
Technology,
Premium,
Comfort and
Msport plus package

Driving assistant professional and,
Parking assistant plus

If you’ve any questions please feel free to massage me.

Thanks for the info I get what you are saying in the fact the Sport Plus is the best one to have but if you were to go by what's in Irish dealers at the moment. I know there is a year in the difference but that is all that is there at the minute and there is never going to be a huge selection of G20 330i.

You are at 17k of a difference its a huge amount for ultimately the same car same engine, same basic extras. If you were to keep both for 3 years I think you would do well to get 8K extra for the Msport never mind 17K I could be wrong though.

Cheapest M sport plus
201 Msport Plus 330i

Sport model
191 Sport 330i

bazz26

At the end of the day it boils down to you and which one you prefer. If you like the Sport and see no extra value in a M Sport then there is no point spending extra money on a M Sport.

vintagevrs

Anyone have any idea of what the VRT would be on an 08 M3, manual coupe with less than 60k miles?

I was going to ask an owner there on another forum but copped his is an Irish car.

Cheers

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Sport model
191 Sport 330i[/QUOTE]

You'd move from the GTi to that for a palatable enough amount I reckon.

CIP4

Augeo wrote: »

You'd move from the GTi to that for a palatable enough amount I reckon.

Well as the dealer said if we hadn’t knocked 10k of it 2 weeks ago we would of given you some trade in on your own :pac: ah we will see I might equally drive the GTI for another 6 months see what comes up then or decide to bring one in from the UK for the sake of getting a higher spec if I feel that’s needed.

F34

CIP4 wrote: »

Well as the dealer said if we hadn’t knocked 10k of it 2 weeks ago we would of given you some trade in on your own :pac: ah we will see I might equally drive the GTI for another 6 months see what comes up then or decide to bring one in from the UK for the sake of getting a higher spec if I feel that’s needed.

I’ve done sport over msport once and swore never to repeat the mistake

chalky_ie

vintagevrs wrote: »

Anyone have any idea of what the VRT would be on an 08 M3, manual coupe with less than 60k miles?

I was going to ask an owner there on another forum but copped his is an Irish car.

Cheers

Give or take 8k is what most people say, having asked the same question in
a lot of places, seems like nobody that actually brings one in is willing to ever state what they paid!

carsfan2

CIP4 wrote: »

Thanks for the info I get what you are saying in the fact the Sport Plus is the best one to have but if you were to go by what's in Irish dealers at the moment. I know there is a year in the difference but that is all that is there at the minute and there is never going to be a huge selection of G20 330i.

You are at 17k of a difference its a huge amount for ultimately the same car same engine, same basic extras. If you were to keep both for 3 years I think you would do well to get 8K extra for the Msport never mind 17K I could be wrong though.

Cheapest M sport plus
201 Msport Plus 330i

Sport model
191 Sport 330i

You’re not really comparing like with like in that the more expensive car to begin with is a year younger.
I get what you say though and agree the variation in price will have narrowed in three years.
Take a test drive and see if you like how they drive.

td2008

vintagevrs wrote: »

Anyone have any idea of what the VRT would be on an 08 M3, manual coupe with less than 60k miles?

I was going to ask an owner there on another forum but copped his is an Irish car.

Cheers

Paid 6900 for a 07 with 55K miles back in 2016, probably get charged a bit more than that now though :rolleyes:

Wailin

vintagevrs wrote: »

Anyone have any idea of what the VRT would be on an 08 M3, manual coupe with less than 60k miles?

I was going to ask an owner there on another forum but copped his is an Irish car.

Cheers

E92 m3 would be some lovely motor. I could only imagine what that v8 sounds like. Look into the rod bearings and throttle actuators if you're not aware of the issues common in that car. Lot's of owners get the rod bearings replaced for piece of mind, a pricey job too.

bazz26

Augeo wrote: »

You'd move from the GTi to that for a palatable enough amount I reckon.

It's a BMW dealer, palatable money it won't be.

carsfan2

I see on the gti thread you’re putting your car up for sale Cip4.
Are you set on a 330 or still thinking?

CIP4

carsfan2 wrote: »

I see on the gti thread you’re putting your car up for sale Cip4.
Are you set on a 330 or still thinking?

Well I think I will sell the GTI either way. Then possibly just buy a bit of a runaround to tide me over until I can find a nice well specced 330i or go to the UK to get one. While I am not that bothered about MSport spec I think everyone else looking to buy a 330i will want an MSport so I am put off the sport version as I just think it will be too difficult to sell on whenever I would sell it on. Having the GTI gone will give me more options either way. If I can’t get decent offers on the GTI I will hold onto it longer I don’t have to get rid of it or anything.

digiman

How’s the 540i going Wallin now that you have it for a week or so!

I still have the autotraders alerts coming to my email for 540is and this is a nicely specced one here:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202007171358068?fromSavedAds=true&advertising-location=at_cars

digiman

New M440i looking pretty good here I think

https://www.bmwblog.com/2020/07/17/2021-bmw-m440i-in-individual-dravit-grey-metallic/

Would still rather smaller grills but I could live with it for sure as the rest of the car is stunning and offers super performance. Looking forward to see the grand coupe version.

James Bond Junior

digiman wrote: »

New M440i looking pretty good here I think

https://www.bmwblog.com/2020/07/17/2021-bmw-m440i-in-individual-dravit-grey-metallic/

Would still rather smaller grills but I could live with it for sure as the rest of the car is stunning and offers super performance. Looking forward to see the grand coupe version.

That looks really well in fairness, the grill isn't THAT bad..

bazz26

CIP4 wrote: »

Well I think I will sell the GTI either way. Then possibly just buy a bit of a runaround to tide me over until I can find a nice well specced 330i or go to the UK to get one. While I am not that bothered about MSport spec I think everyone else looking to buy a 330i will want an MSport so I am put off the sport version as I just think it will be too difficult to sell on whenever I would sell it on. Having the GTI gone will give me more options either way. If I can’t get decent offers on the GTI I will hold onto it longer I don’t have to get rid of it or anything.

Just leaving this here:
https://www.usedcarsni.com/2019-BMW-3-Series-330i-M-Sport-Saloon-269351033?search_type=1&make=0&fuel_type=0&age_from=2019&price_from=0&user_type=0&trans_type=0&age_to=0&price_to=0&keywords=330i&location%5B%5D=0&body_style=0

VRT maybe 10k? So around 43k cleared?

Wailin bought his 540i off them recently.

Wailin

digiman wrote: »

How’s the 540i going Wallin now that you have it for a week or so!

Yeah loving the car, it's quiet different to the f10. More nimble and feels less nose heavy than the 535d. Steering is more direct and it grips well with the xdrive. Even though it's slightly bigger than the f10 it feels smaller on the move. You really notice the drop in torque compared to the 535d, but then it goes pretty much to the red line when pushed without drop off. Not as quick as my 535d, but a remap would sort that if I wanted and the b58 engine takes the remap very well.

Economy has settled around 32-34 mpg, drops a lot on city spins. I love the sports seats with adjustable bolsters and lumbar support. Very comfortable.

Things I miss from my 535d are the 360 camera, makes parking in tight spaces a breeze, and the adaptive dampers. The m sport suspension is good but it's nice to be able to switch to comfort on the less smooth roads. If I was speccing one from new I'd definitely add those options.

Wailin

A nice, well specced f30 340i with individual colour. Same price as my own from same dealer which is a bit steep when comparing like for like.

https://www.usedcarsni.com/2018-BMW-3-Series-340i-M-Sport-Shadow-Edition-Saloon-270264165?make=2&model=139959&search_type=1&age_from=0&age_to=0&body_style=0&fuel_type=1&homepage_search_attr=1&keywords=&location[]=0&location[]=0&mileage_to=0&pagepc0=2&price_from=0&price_to=0&sortby=6%7C0&tab_id=0&trans_type=0&user_type=0

bazz26

It's a nice car but that is pricey considering what you bought for similar money. I remember there was a similar 2018 F30 340i in carbon black, for sale by a non franchised dealer in Dublin about a 2 years ago and they were asking around 43k for it back then. Even at that price they had it for ages.

carsfan2

Wailin wrote: »

A nice, well specced f30 340i with individual colour. Same price as my own from same dealer which is a bit steep when comparing like for like.

https://www.usedcarsni.com/2018-BMW-3-Series-340i-M-Sport-Shadow-Edition-Saloon-270264165?make=2&model=139959&search_type=1&age_from=0&age_to=0&body_style=0&fuel_type=1&homepage_search_attr=1&keywords=&location[]=0&location[]=0&mileage_to=0&pagepc0=2&price_from=0&price_to=0&sortby=6%7C0&tab_id=0&trans_type=0&user_type=0

That’s a beautiful car and probably less than 40k when vrt included. All the additional equipment would probably increase the vrt over what the quote they have listed says.
A lot of car for the money at that.
A dealer down here would want 50k for that.

carsfan2

CIP4 wrote: »

Well I think I will sell the GTI either way. Then possibly just buy a bit of a runaround to tide me over until I can find a nice well specced 330i or go to the UK to get one. While I am not that bothered about MSport spec I think everyone else looking to buy a 330i will want an MSport so I am put off the sport version as I just think it will be too difficult to sell on whenever I would sell it on. Having the GTI gone will give me more options either way. If I can’t get decent offers on the GTI I will hold onto it longer I don’t have to get rid of it or anything.

At the right price you will sell the gti handily enough. It’s a lovely spec on it and they are rare enough.

td2008

James Bond Junior wrote: »

That looks really well in fairness, the grill isn't THAT bad..

The number plate splitting it really improves the look, where generally cars look better without it imo

Top Dog

Is it just me, or do the huge rear quarters make the wheels look too small for the car?

maddness

Top Dog wrote: »

Is it just me, or do the huge rear quarters make the wheels look too small for the car?

100% yes!
Every is giving out about the horrible grill but the rear side profile is bloody awful too. The last BMW that I liked the ew design is the current 5 series.

carsfan2

Looks like the suspension is too high also.
A lot of new cars seem to only look good with 20” plus wheels. The fact the alloys are black doesn’t help either.
I hate black alloys, must be my age.

Leonard Hofstadter

carsfan2 wrote: »

Looks like the suspension is too high also.
A lot of new cars seem to only look good with 20” plus wheels. The fact the alloys are black doesn’t help either.
I hate black alloys, must be my age.

Unfortunately, while BMW UK decided that all 4 series will come in M Sport specification as standard (which is a good thing), they also decided to remove M Sport suspension that M Sport cars always got as standard.

It's one thing to delete sports suspension on say an X3 or an X5 M Sport, but it absolutely beggars belief to not fit sports suspension on a sports trim on a Coupé - especially given how much of a deal BMW is making about the 4 series' driving dynamics over its predecessor.

Hopefully M Sport Plus cars will come with the adaptive suspension like they do in the 3 series. The 3 series M Sport continues to get sports suspension in any event.

I do agree with you on the looks, even aside from the front the side doesn't look great either; it really lacks the elegance of the outgoing 4 series, or the 3 series Coupé it superseded.

I don't like the fact that it's so big either; it's a whole foot longer than an E46 Coupé and not far off the E63/4 6 series!

Hopefully the forthcoming 2 series Coupé will look like a BMW Coupé should, and also be much more sensible size wise.

bazz26

I wouldn't hold my breath on the 2 Series coupe, it will probably still look very similar to the Gran Coupe but with 2 doors and lower roof line obviously:

bazz26

Nicely speced F30 335d here. It's been for sale for ages but not surprised at that asking price:



https://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=2549850&r=s.php%3Fm%3D10%26o%3D86%26r%3D2016%26pp%3D50%26g%3D1

carsfan2

bazz26 wrote: »

I wouldn't hold my breath on the 2 Series coupe, it will probably still look very similar to the Gran Coupe but with 2 doors and lower roof line obviously:

I read the 2 series coupe is going to stay rear wheel drive and not be derived from the same platform as regular 1/2 series so there is hope.

Leonard Hofstadter

carsfan2 wrote: »

I read the 2 series coupe is going to stay rear wheel drive and not be derived from the same platform as regular 1/2 series so there is hope.

The 2 Coupé will thankfully be based on the CLAR platform the rear wheel drive models use. There will be at least one six cylinder engine available (the M2) and most likely the M240i will return with the correct number of cylinders, too. As such, it will be the only 2 series worth buying. The spy photos I've seen are promising but one never knows with BMW these days.

vintagevrs

Leonard Hofstadter wrote: »

The 2 Coupé will thankfully be based on the CLAR platform the rear wheel drive models use. There will be at least one six cylinder engine available (the M2) and most likely the M240i will return with the correct number of cylinders, too. As such, it will be the only 2 series worth buying. The spy photos I've seen are promising but one never knows with BMW these days.

You're obsessed with 6 pots

carsfan2

vintagevrs wrote: »

You're obsessed with 6 pots

There’s worse things to be obsessed with!

I have to say since we got the x5 with the six cylinder diesel it really has impressed me with its smooth nature and effortless nature.
Makes the 2.0 diesel in my 5 series feel like a tractor in comparison.

James Bond Junior

vintagevrs wrote: »

You're obsessed with 6 pots

Never picked up on that! 😂

vintagevrs

Called the insurance company today to see what kind of hike stepping into an E92 would bring. They couldn't tell me and have to refer to underwriters. Guy said it wouldn't be good. That might be the end of that idea then...

marcos_94

vintagevrs wrote: »

Called the insurance company today to see what kind of hike stepping into an E92 would bring. They couldn't tell me and have to refer to underwriters. Guy said it wouldn't be good. That might be the end of that idea then...

I had both my e92s insured with GMHD and they were very good. Had my 325i (3L) insured fully comp for just over 800 last year

carsfan2

vintagevrs wrote: »

Called the insurance company today to see what kind of hike stepping into an E92 would bring. They couldn't tell me and have to refer to underwriters. Guy said it wouldn't be good. That might be the end of that idea then...

You replacing your 330d or is this an additional policy?

vintagevrs

Replace it potentially....

Trying to do the maths on it and figured better sort out this end before going test driving.

Wailin

vintagevrs wrote: »

Called the insurance company today to see what kind of hike stepping into an E92 would bring. They couldn't tell me and have to refer to underwriters. Guy said it wouldn't be good. That might be the end of that idea then...

Input your details into 25plus.ie and see how you get on. I'm getting quotes of €500, although I'm mid 40's if that makes a difference.

vintagevrs

Wailin wrote: »

Input your details into 25plus.ie and see how you get on. I'm getting quotes of €500, although I'm mid 40's if that makes a difference.

Ah jaysus, we're back in business now. 700 euro fully comp.

Cheers!

carsfan2

Beautiful car and all but Is the e92 M3 not a potential money pit?
The smg gearbox especially?

vintagevrs

The E92 has a dct box, which is BM's dual clutch box and I believe there is no issue with it and my indy reckons that's the one to get, but I would prefer a manual.

Biggest concern with the s65 motor is the tight tolerances the rod bearings were made with which causes premature wear and if they fail it's catastrophic for the motor. These are replaced now as preventative maintenance by most owners, and is a pricey job but essential for peace of mind. Another issue on them is throttle body actuators that can fail. These will leave you stranded if they do, no damage to engine.

Other than that, it's a 12 year old car with plenty of bits that will wear and tear no doubt.

Depends what way people look at it. You could buy something a lot fresher with higher depreciation and lower running and maintenance costs.

Still early days in the process, yet to test drive one but will hopefully get that done this week and see what kind of deal can be done.

carsfan2

I was thinking of the previous model with smg gearbox.
Best of luck with the search.

Leonard Hofstadter

The E92 M3 is an absolutely epic car. That engine is in a completely different league to anything else I've tried. The DCT box is sublime. The handing is what you'd expect from an M car.

Take care of the rod bearings and they're pretty reliable as M3s go actually. Obviously there is the M tax on everything parts wise, but you can't buy an M car and then start fretting about the running costs.

Cyrus

Someone mentioned about Irish dealers and poor photos

I was looking to see when my old car would go up on Carzone out of curiosity, it is a glc 220 with the amg styling pack , nice cavansite blue and tan interior .

It has literally never looked worse , there isn’t a mark on the car I just hadn’t bothered washing it for a few weeks as it was being traded .

Looks like they didn’t bother either before taking the pics , the pics with the background are absolutely garbage aswell.

https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/mercedes-benz/glc-class/used-2017-172-mercedes-benz-glc-class-dublin-fpa-202007151257687

carsfan2

Cyrus wrote: »

Someone mentioned about Irish dealers and poor photos

I was looking to see when my old car would go up on Carzone out of curiosity, it is a glc 220 with the amg styling pack , nice cavansite blue and tan interior .

It has literally never looked worse , there isn’t a mark on the car I just hadn’t bothered washing it for a few weeks as it was being traded .

Looks like they didn’t bother either before taking the pics , the pics with the background are absolutely garbage aswell.

https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/mercedes-benz/glc-class/used-2017-172-mercedes-benz-glc-class-dublin-fpa-202007151257687

That’s about as bad as I’ve seen for a car at that price.
Car looks like new.
You hardly drove it over three years. 6k Miles a year?

Cyrus

carsfan2 wrote: »

That’s about as bad as I’ve seen for a car at that price.
Car looks like new.
You hardly drove it over three years. 6k Miles a year?

Yeah about that , we live near the dart in Dublin so most of the driving is local as I take that to work and my wife is just bringing the kids around , odd trip to wexico to see the folks and odd trip to Kerry and that’s it

It’s literally as new anyone in the market for one would be getting a clean car.

But the ad depressed me .

This is what it actually looked like



And this is what I changed it for (ev made sense given the mileage !)