Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 2 **MOD NOTE POST 1***

brookville

Buckley was a bit off in the first half but grew into it.these lads will be a bit rusty.great match to be getting at home next weekend before the league.
https://www.kilkennypeople.ie/news/sport/291609/walsh-cup-final-nowlan-park-will-be-opened-for-what-should-be-big-crowd-puller.html

Village87

Cork were well beat by Kerry yesterday, i know they were probably trying out few new lads but still encouraging for Kilkenny going into the first league game. It will put pressure on Kilkenny if they lose the opening league match

brookville

I suppose cork will look at kk scraping past ofally and think the same but cork had a very experimental team out last sunday.We had more experience in our team but when it's a different 15 every week it's harder.

JJs Left Hand

http://www.kilkennygaa.ie/news/read/id/2146

12 senior football teams. Wonder how many games will be played...........

brookville

The Walsh cup is now on saturday at 2.I heard Cody saying lads like wally are fit enough to start getting matches but hogan is working on his back problems so the break will do him no harm he played most of last year injured.he also said he'll be mixing the team up again which is no surprise the full back line needs attention I'm sure they won't be happy to concede 3 goals last weekend.

Cornerback1

With a couple of weeks to go to the start of the league, we need a settled No. 3 and No. 6 for league. It's crucial. Players to be played in their proper positions i.e. Walsh at No. 5 and Fogarty at mid-field.

Most important thing is we need centre of defence sorted. Spine of the team is crucial.

Cornerback1

brookville wrote: »

The Walsh cup is now on saturday at 2.I heard Cody saying lads like wally are fit enough to start getting matches but hogan is working on his back problems so the break will do him no harm he played most of last year injured.he also said he'll be mixing the team up again which is no surprise the full back line needs attention I'm sure they won't be happy to concede 3 goals last weekend.

T.J. was to be at full forward but never started. Maybe he'll get a run out.

brookville

Cornerback1 wrote: »

brookville wrote: »

The Walsh cup is now on saturday at 2.I heard Cody saying lads like wally are fit enough to start getting matches but hogan is working on his back problems so the break will do him no harm he played most of last year injured.he also said he'll be mixing the team up again which is no surprise the full back line needs attention I'm sure they won't be happy to concede 3 goals last weekend.

T.J. was to be at full forward but never started. Maybe he'll get a run out.

Hopefully richie reid can continue his good form he'd be a welcome addition to the forwards,leahy could be better on the wing than mf.I'd like to get another look at conor browne his still raw but I think he might have something.

Rebelside

PeterCasey wrote: »

He said on one of the papers during the week that the qualifiers game in2013 between Tipp V kilkenny was one game he enjoyed refereeing . One thing about him he wouldn't have let Padraig Maher away with what he did in 2012 all Ireland semi final.

so maybe he wouldnt have let Hickey or Brennan awy with what they did in the 2008 All Ireland either

PeterCasey

Rebelside wrote: »

so maybe he wouldnt have let Hickey or Brennan awy with what they did in the 2008 All Ireland either

Notice you didn't mention Tom Kenny from Cork what happened in the semi final .You also didn't mention about the two kilkenny players that were targeted by Waterford at the start of that all Ireland.

greenspurs

Rebelside wrote: »

so maybe he wouldnt have let Hickey or Brennan awy with what they did in the 2008 All Ireland either

You opened an account , I presume you are from Cork given the name, and your first post is in a KK GAA forum to whinge about a match in 2008 !?! :eek::rolleyes:
Wow....

Village87

This Saturday sees the first of 3 matches against Wexford in Nowlan park this year. Kilkenny really need to set down a marker Saturday after getting well beaten by Wexford in the league & Championship last year. 2 very important matches against Wexford later in the year and will be very disappointing if Kilkenny lose 3 in a row against Wexford

Hawkeye6

Village87 wrote: »

This Saturday sees the first of 3 matches against Wexford in Nowlan park this year.

Potentially first of 6 matches between Kilkenny and Wexford this year in total.
Add league and league final
leinster and Leinster final
All-Ireland final
New system has the "potential" to be hugely exciting and repetitive.
Kilkenny could lose 5 of them and still be All-Ireland Champions.

Village87

Hawkeye6 wrote: »

Potentially first of 6 matches between Kilkenny and Wexford this year in total.
Add league and league final
leinster and Leinster final
All-Ireland final
New system has the "potential" to be hugely exciting and repetitive.
Kilkenny could lose 5 of them and still be All-Ireland Champions.

Not the biggest fan of it. But i am looking forward to championship matches in Galway and Dublin.

Gone are the days when about 7-8 years from the mid noughties onward i remember Kilkenny were guaranteed to win Leinster and were in the All Ireland Semi Final every year, the year was based on peaking for those 2 matches the semi and final.

How times have changed

bruschi

Hawkeye6 wrote: »

Potentially first of 6 matches between Kilkenny and Wexford this year in total.
Add league and league final
leinster and Leinster final
All-Ireland final
New system has the "potential" to be hugely exciting and repetitive.
Kilkenny could lose 5 of them and still be All-Ireland Champions.

If Kilkenny lose 5 times to Wexford this year, I can absolutely 100% guarantee you they will not be All Ireland Champions.

Village87

bruschi wrote: »

If Kilkenny lose 5 times to Wexford this year, I can absolutely 100% guarantee you they will not be All Ireland Champions.

robwen

Team & subs for Waterford match last July anyone know who is actually retired/gone from this 26?

Michael Fennelly, Kieran Joyce, Shane Prendergast retired anyone else?

1 Eoin Murphy Glenmore
2 Paul Murphy Danesfort
3 Padraig Walsh Tullaroan
4 Joey Holden Ballyhale Shamrocks
5 Conor Fogarty Erins Own
6 Cillian Buckley Dicksboro
7 Joe Lyng Rower Inistioge
8 Michael Fennelly Ballyhale Shamrocks
9 Paddy Deegan O'Loughlin Gaels
10 Chris Bolger Clara
11 Walter Walsh Tullogher Rosbercon
12 T J Reid Ballyhale Shamrocks
13 Richie Hogan Danesfort
14 Colin Fennelly Ballyhale Shamrocks
15 Ger Aylward Glenmore

16 Richie Reid Ballyhale Shamrocks
17 Kieran Joyce Rower Inistioge
18 Shane Prendergast Clara
19 Robert Lennon Bennettsbridge
20 Lester Ryan Clara
21 Ollie Walsh Dicksboro
22 Kevin Kelly St Patricks
23 Jonjo Farrell Thomastown
24 Mark Bergin O'Loughlin Gaels
25 Liam Blanchfield Bennettsbridge
26 Richie Leahy Rower Inistioge

babyjesus14

robwen wrote: »

Team & subs for Waterford match last July anyone know who is actually retired/gone from this 26?

Michael Fennelly, Kieran Joyce, Shane Prendergast retired anyone else?

1 Eoin Murphy Glenmore
2 Paul Murphy Danesfort
3 Padraig Walsh Tullaroan
4 Joey Holden Ballyhale Shamrocks
5 Conor Fogarty Erins Own
6 Cillian Buckley Dicksboro
7 Joe Lyng Rower Inistioge
8 Michael Fennelly Ballyhale Shamrocks
9 Paddy Deegan O'Loughlin Gaels
10 Chris Bolger Clara
11 Walter Walsh Tullogher Rosbercon
12 T J Reid Ballyhale Shamrocks
13 Richie Hogan Danesfort
14 Colin Fennelly Ballyhale Shamrocks
15 Ger Aylward Glenmore

16 Richie Reid Ballyhale Shamrocks
17 Kieran Joyce Rower Inistioge
18 Shane Prendergast Clara
19 Robert Lennon Bennettsbridge
20 Lester Ryan Clara
21 Ollie Walsh Dicksboro
22 Kevin Kelly St Patricks
23 Jonjo Farrell Thomastown
24 Mark Bergin O'Loughlin Gaels
25 Liam Blanchfield Bennettsbridge
26 Richie Leahy Rower Inistioge

Farrell (opted out), Bergin (released) and also heard that Ryan was no longer part of the set up but stand to be corrected on that.

JJs Left Hand

Lester?

That's a pity. A warrior who gave us everything and who I personally think should've been a more consistent starter. The decision not to start him in 2016 is still one that confuses the **** out of me.

brookville

He was involved late last year anyway unless he dropped himself off since then

PeterCasey

May be things are busy on the farm.

kk1970

robwen wrote: »

Team & subs for Waterford match last July anyone know who is actually retired/gone from this 26?

Michael Fennelly, Kieran Joyce, Shane Prendergast retired anyone else?

1 Eoin Murphy Glenmore
2 Paul Murphy Danesfort
3 Padraig Walsh Tullaroan
4 Joey Holden Ballyhale Shamrocks
5 Conor Fogarty Erins Own
6 Cillian Buckley Dicksboro
7 Joe Lyng Rower Inistioge
8 Michael Fennelly Ballyhale Shamrocks
9 Paddy Deegan O'Loughlin Gaels
10 Chris Bolger Clara
11 Walter Walsh Tullogher Rosbercon
12 T J Reid Ballyhale Shamrocks
13 Richie Hogan Danesfort
14 Colin Fennelly Ballyhale Shamrocks
15 Ger Aylward Glenmore

16 Richie Reid Ballyhale Shamrocks
17 Kieran Joyce Rower Inistioge
18 Shane Prendergast Clara
19 Robert Lennon Bennettsbridge
20 Lester Ryan Clara
21 Ollie Walsh Dicksboro
22 Kevin Kelly St Patricks
23 Jonjo Farrell Thomastown
24 Mark Bergin O'Loughlin Gaels
25 Liam Blanchfield Bennettsbridge
26 Richie Leahy Rower Inistioge

I don't think ger and Chris actually started Kevin and John Joe did

Village87

kk1970 wrote: »

I don't think ger and Chris actually started Kevin and John Joe did

Paul Murphy and Colin Fennnelly over seas until mid May, prob forget about them until July. Id play Colin at some stage.We badly need a replacement for Paul Murphy, has been very poor last last couple of years.

What is the story with Ger Aylward , if still on the panel really needs to hit the ground running in the league.

Robert Lennon place on the panel must be in jeopardy after the weekend,

babyjesus14

brookville wrote: »

He was involved late last year anyway unless he dropped himself off since then

I heard that he opted out due to his teaching and farming commitments but as I said I stand to be corrected as it was 3rd hand information from someone involved with Clara. On a related note why is a Kilkenny panel never published ( like it seems to be in a lot of other counties)? It's easier to get information out of North Korea!

brookville

babyjesus14 wrote: »

brookville wrote: »

He was involved late last year anyway unless he dropped himself off since then

I heard that he opted out due to his teaching and farming commitments but as I said I stand to be corrected as it was 3rd hand information from someone involved with Clara. On a related note why is a Kilkenny panel never published ( like it seems to be in a lot of other counties)? It's easier to get information out of North Korea!

He could of had but I was talking to a player around Christmas and he said he was still there.You'd imagine it would of got an article in the local paper if he did like shane pender.
I agree about the panel never published but I suppose this year there's over 50 lads in we'll know next week for the cork match what kind of squad he has in mind

danganabu

Village87 in Paul Murphy dig shocker At least you are consistent man!

Village87

danganabu wrote: »

Village87 in Paul Murphy dig shocker At least you are consistent man!

I know, still irate over his performance last year v Waterford, he makes the sweeper system work for other teams with his clearances. had a sweeper on his own team and Shane Bennett still took him to the cleaners. I hope he brought a hurl to Syria with him

danganabu

Village87 wrote: »

I know, still irate over his performance last year v Waterford, he makes the sweeper system work for other teams with his clearances. had a sweeper on his own team and Shane Bennett still took him to the cleaners. I hope he brought a hurl to Syria with him

KK corner back with a hurl, that might be considered as a weapon of mass destruction

Butterbeans

Village87 wrote: »

I know, still irate over his performance last year v Waterford, he makes the sweeper system work for other teams with his clearances. had a sweeper on his own team and Shane Bennett still took him to the cleaners. I hope he brought a hurl to Syria with him

It won't do him any good in Syria, he's in The Lebanon Paul Murphy definitely hasn't had his best 2 years by his standards, which in fairness are well above average anyway. You'd be confident in himself and Colin coming back as fit as fiddles and raring to go, but it's the lack of matches that'll be telling.
Here's hoping we're not praying for their return come the early stages of Championship. But you'd be confident that if we are in the latter stages of the Championship that both Colin and Paul will be vital cogs in the team

danganabu

Butterbeans wrote: »

Paul Murphy definitely hasn't had his best 2 years by his standards, which in fairness are well above average anyway.

I think that's the crux of it really, a victim of his own success if you like, was the best corner back in the country between 2011 and 2016. Droped off those levels recently but would be amazed if KK have 6 better backs than Murphy.

Village87

danganabu wrote: »

I think that's the crux of it really, a victim of his own success if you like, was the best corner back in the country between 2011 and 2016. Droped off those levels recently but would be amazed if KK have 6 better backs than Murphy.

Maybe, but Kilkenny had great hurlers around him during those years, retirements are an incalculable loss. Never stepped up to the leadership that JJ Brian Hogan & Tommy Walsh provided in their late 20s. Anyway hopefully he can have a better year this year.

babyjesus14

brookville wrote: »

He could of had but I was talking to a player around Christmas and he said he was still there.You'd imagine it would of got an article in the local paper if he did like shane pender.
I agree about the panel never published but I suppose this year there's over 50 lads in we'll know next week for the cork match what kind of squad he has in mind

Well I would trust your source ahead of mine as I said it was 3rd hand information.

robwen

Former Kilkenny minor hurling team manager, Richie Mulrooney has returned to the post.
The Dicksboro clubman was appointed to take over from Pat O’Grady (Blacks and Whites), who served last season.
The Clara national school principal enjoyed a very successful run when he last managed the minors between 2008 and 2010.
The Cats made three appearances in the All-Ireland final, and won the title in 2008 and 2010.
Before that Mr Mulrooney coached the Clara minors and served as a Kilkenny under-21 selector in 2004 and 2005.
He was manager of the Dicksboro senior team for three seasons up to 2016. The appointment was ratified at Monday’s meeting of the County Board.
Mr Mulrooney will be joined on the Selection Committee by Sean Kelly (St Martin’s), Adrian Finan (James Stephens) and Martin Carey (Young Irelands).

Meanwhile, the County Board has confirmed that there will be only two teams involved in the All-Ireland intermediate championship this season.
Kilkenny and Cork are the only counties who entered teams.
The pair contested the final last season on the weekend of the official opening of Pairc Ui Chaoimh when the Noresiders won.
Kilkenny are to ask Cork to play the final in Nowlan Park this time.

The Kilkenny junior football management team to look after affairs in the British championship has been confirmed.
Christy Walsh (Bennettsbridge) will continue as manager. He will be joined by J.J. Grace (trainer), John Dowd (Railyard) and Noel Prendergast (James Stephens).

https://www.kilkennypeople.ie/news/sport/291979/kilkenny-hurling-richie-mulrooney-back-as-minor-team-manager.html

downthemiddle

How do KK people feel about Richie Mul getting the minor job again?

dobbs2210

downthemiddle wrote: »

How do KK people feel about Richie Mul getting the minor job again?

Happy to be manager when there is a decent side, gone for the hills when an average side is there. Simple as.

brookville

dobbs2210 wrote: »

downthemiddle wrote: »

How do KK people feel about Richie Mul getting the minor job again?

Happy to be manager when there is a decent side, gone for the hills when an average side is there. Simple as.

He worked with this crop and had success with them last year.best of luck to all involved

Realt Dearg Sec

He told me to shut up once when we were on a bus on a school tour when I was 11. Not management material IMO.

brookville

Village87 wrote: »

kk1970 wrote: »

I don't think ger and Chris actually started Kevin and John Joe did

Paul Murphy and Colin Fennnelly over seas until mid May, prob forget about them until July. Id play Colin at some stage.We badly need a replacement for Paul Murphy, has been very poor last last couple of years.

What is the story with Ger Aylward , if still on the panel really needs to hit the ground running in the league.

Robert Lennon place on the panel must be in jeopardy after the weekend,

I don't think lennon is the answer to be honest.He might be ok this time of the year but lacks pace I'd much prefer to see delaney or tom aylward tried although both aren't the quickest either.
I see aylward has a hand injury that's why we haven't seen him yet.
According to the paper we should see a few more regulars this weekend especially with the cork match next weekend lads will be rusty it'll be interesting to see what the full back line will be because I'm sure they'll be disappointed to concede 3 goals last week.
The forwards have being scoring in fairness but miss a bit of experience wally and tj should add to it.

Rebelside

PeterCasey wrote: »

Notice you didn't mention Tom Kenny from Cork what happened in the semi final .You also didn't mention about the two kilkenny players that were targeted by Waterford at the start of that all Ireland.

no and I notice you didnt mention the tackles on McCarthy & Fraggy or Lyng hitting the Dub over the head. We could go on all day & thats the point. All counties are guilty so picking out one incident as an example is just self serving.

Rebelside

greenspurs wrote: »

You opened an account , I presume you are from Cork given the name, and your first post is in a KK GAA forum to whinge about a match in 2008 !?! :eek::rolleyes:
Wow....

A post about a match in 2012 isnt a 'whinge' but mine is? as you say, Wow....

laneykin

Trying to plan my trip down to Cork for the match next week. Just wondering if anyone has been in Pairc Ui Chaoimh since the upgrade, do you know what kind of food and drink stalls are there? And what drinks, like beer etc do they sell?

babyjesus14

Rebelside wrote: »

no and I notice you didnt mention the tackles on McCarthy & Fraggy or Lyng hitting the Dub over the head. We could go on all day & thats the point. All counties are guilty so picking out one incident as an example is just self serving.

Dude if you only came on here to troll and have nothing constructive to say, I suggest you toddle off back to the peoples republic forum where you can bitch away about what Brennan, Hickey and Lyng supposedly did 10 years ago and i am sure you'll have plenty queuing to agree with you!

downthemiddle

dobbs2210 wrote: »

Happy to be manager when there is a decent side, gone for the hills when an average side is there. Simple as.

I thought Dicksboro were in relegation playoffs for a number of years before he took over. From the outside it looked like he steadied the ship and laid the foundations for this years success.

brookville

I see john power was playing for ucc tonight.I take it he hasn't rejoined the county which is a shame.he probably done his best hurling when richie was beside him.the 14 final replay springs to mind.i still think he might have something to offer.
Good to see conor browne coming on for ucc he has a bit of fire in his belly he looks like a good prospect I'd like to see him get some gametime
With the fitzgibbon starting will college lads be available the next few weekends?

BORO BILL

I doubt if conor delaney or john donnelly will be on the panel this weekend as DCU are playing on monday.It will be interesting to see the full back line on saturday.It is the line that gives me the biggest concerns for the year ahead.

greenspurs

Rebelside wrote: »

A post about a match in 2012 isnt a 'whinge' but mine is? as you say, Wow....

I didn't whinge about any incident.
My main point was, You opened an account and your first (3) posts have been in the GAA forum ?
Bitter Cork man ? Or another account for someone under cover? :rolleyes:

Village87

BORO BILL wrote: »

I doubt if conor delaney or john donnelly will be on the panel this weekend as DCU are playing on monday.It will be interesting to see the full back line on saturday.It is the line that gives me the biggest concerns for the year ahead.

Do Kilkenny have many involved in the Fitzgibbon ?
If there is near 60 lads on the panel there must be at least 15-20 involved in fitzgibbon as the ages 22-23 to 19 mostly play.

Last year Cork and Waterford, limerick and Tipperary players seemed to do really well in the Fitzgibbon cup.

When Kilkenny were the best team in the country many of the best players dominated in this competition when they were younger. We really need to start seeing this again, hopefully some of they players involved really step up

babyjesus14

BORO BILL wrote: »

I doubt if conor delaney or john donnelly will be on the panel this weekend as DCU are playing on monday.It will be interesting to see the full back line on saturday.It is the line that gives me the biggest concerns for the year ahead.

The reason the game was switched from Sunday to Saturday was because of the Fitzgibbon so I very much doubt BC will be leaving off Delaney and Donnelly because of their college commitments on Monday and ditto Richie Leahy and Jason Cleere who will be involved with Carlow IT on Sunday. Though Cleere hasn't appeared in any of the 3 matches so far,does anyone know if he's injured?

Village87

babyjesus14 wrote: »

The reason the game was switched from Sunday to Saturday was because of the Fitzgibbon so I very much doubt BC will be leaving off Delaney and Donnelly because of their college commitments on Monday and ditto Richie Leahy and Jason Cleere who will be involved with Carlow IT on Sunday. Though Cleere hasn't appeared in any of the 3 matches so far,does anyone know if he's injured?

The lads should be left alone to play Fitzgibbon for the college, there is 60 lads on the panel, surely they can field a strong team without them. Issues like this cause burn out and injury

babyjesus14

Village87 wrote: »

Do Kilkenny have many involved in the Fitzgibbon ?
If there is near 60 lads on the panel there must be at least 15-20 involved in fitzgibbon as the ages 22-23 to 19 mostly play.

Last year Cork and Waterford, limerick and Tipperary players seemed to do really well in the Fitzgibbon cup.

When Kilkenny were the best team in the country many of the best players dominated in this competition when they were younger. We really need to start seeing this again, hopefully some of they players involved really step up

Off the top of my head Delaney,Donnelly and Mullen (though he's off the panel atm for disciplinary reasons) with DCU, Leahy and Cleere with Carlow IT , Lawlor and Scanlon with UCD, Browne and McGrath with UCC, Deegan with Maynooth, S Morrissey and B Ryan with St Pats, Blanchfield and J Walsh DIT, Cody with UL.