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Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 2 **MOD NOTE POST 1***

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  • Registered Users Posts: 624 ✭✭✭babyjesus14


    SteJer wrote: »
    Absolutely thrilled to be proven wrong on both. Now that the league is over we are on to the serious business. Kilkenny haven't a hope of winning the All Ireland unfortunately. Galway & Tipp are clearly the two strongest teams. Kilkenny might get up to that level in the next 3-4 years. The All Ireland is a two horse race with 6-7 other teams fighting it out just to reach an All Ireland semi final. I would imagine unless Tipp win the All Ireland this year Ryan will have to go. They better win at least one All Ireland for their sake before the Kilkenny rebuilding is completed!!

    Kilkenny "haven't a hope", really? I would imagine every team in the competition has a "hope".

    I think it's the most open Championship in 20 years and i definitely don't see Tipperary and Galway "clearly " being the two strongest teams! Contenders, absolutely, "clearly " better than every other team to the point that they can all be dismissed as playing for semi final appearances, absolutely not!

    Last Sunday clearly showed up that there is flaws in Tipperary and they are going to need to get the likes of Callanan and Bubbles back fit and close to firing on all cylinders. Why do so many people seem to be giving Galway a free pass on the grounds that they were late back training? I don't ever remember Kilkenny or Tipperary needing or been given similar concessions. Has anyone entertaining the fact that maybe the the same appetite is not there and the fact that they achieved the holy grail they are happy with their lot? Let's be honest if these Galway players never win another thing they can dine out on last year's achievements for the rest of their lives because there's not very many Senior All Ireland winners in the county .

    For what it's worth i find it very difficult to call but I have gone a bit leftfield in that i collected a nice few quid from backing Kilkenny to win last Sunday at 9/4 (I promise I will stopping blowing this trumpet now 😂) and reinvested a few quid of it backing Limerick each way at 14/1. And having done that I wouldn't be too surprised if they didn't even get out of the Munster group!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,392 ✭✭✭Village87


    Kilkenny "haven't a hope", really? I would imagine every team in the competition has a "hope".

    I think it's the most open Championship in 20 years and i definitely don't see Tipperary and Galway "clearly " being the two strongest teams! Contenders, absolutely, "clearly " better than every other team to the point that they can all be dismissed as playing for semi final appearances, absolutely not!

    Last Sunday clearly showed up that there is flaws in Tipperary and they are going to need to get the likes of Callanan and Bubbles back fit and close to firing on all cylinders. Why do so many people seem to be giving Galway a free pass on the grounds that they were late back training? I don't ever remember Kilkenny or Tipperary needing or been given similar concessions. Has anyone entertaining the fact that maybe the the same appetite is not there and the fact that they achieved the holy grail they are happy with their lot? Let's be honest if these Galway players never win another thing they can dine out on last year's achievements for the rest of their lives because there's not very many Senior All Ireland winners in the county .

    For what it's worth i find it very difficult to call but I have gone a bit leftfield in that i collected a nice few quid from backing Kilkenny to win last Sunday at 9/4 (I promise I will stopping blowing this trumpet now ��) and reinvested a few quid of it backing Limerick each way at 14/1. And having done that I wouldn't be too surprised if they didn't even get out of the Munster group!

    Good shout, building a serious squad. Kevin Downes will be a great addition to the forwards. Also the Na Piarsaigh full back looked very good. Well able for Con. And we seen what Con did to Buckley that day in Parnell park. Limerick at home to Tipperary in the first round doesnt get much better


  • Registered Users Posts: 285 ✭✭Justice for the individual


    danganabu wrote: »
    Walked across it at the end and it was indeed in excellent condition considering the weather we have had and there being two games played on it.


    Dangan, it looked certainly different to the Wexford pitch which has many bumps on it. I could see it as I made my way to the stand and commented to my colleagues regarding same.

    As you probably know, the organisation by the Wexford GAA Officials and County Board was zilch, and we and many other motorists were stranded for up to two hours trying to negotiate a way out to get home.

    I quite like your posts Dangan - an alternative view - as some of us are inclined to wear our rose coloured glasses, and different viewpoints are no harm - so keep posting. You give credit where credit is due, and are not afraid to point out when Tipperary get it wrong too!


  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭suirway


    Very little comment on the absolute mess the Kilkenny club championships are in. One round of matches this weekend and then that is it for potentially 5 months if KK get to the under 21 All Ireland final. Obviously we all want the county team to be successful as they were last Sunday but surely another round of matches could have been played the weekend after this. This will then result in 4 rounds of league matches having to be played later in the year followed by the championship. So club players most of whom are back since January or before it will have trained for 9 months for 1 match! A mess if ever there was one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,392 ✭✭✭Village87


    suirway wrote: »
    Very little comment on the absolute mess the Kilkenny club championships are in. One round of matches this weekend and then that is it for potentially 5 months if KK get to the under 21 All Ireland final. Obviously we all want the county team to be successful as they were last Sunday but surely another round of matches could have been played the weekend after this. This will then result in 4 rounds of league matches having to be played later in the year followed by the championship. So club players most of whom are back since January or before it will have trained for 9 months for 1 match! A mess if ever there was one.

    Brian Cody taking no chances. Kilkenny are leaving no stone unturned, back last October, carrying a squad of near 60 for 3/4 months. Only playing one club match in April with 4 weeks to the Dublin match. Kilkenny are gone into overdrive with the professionalism and leaving clubs way behind who some clubs take as serious as intercounty. Heard Brian Cody was not having any of it when the suggestion of club matches take place next week. Something will have to change soon.

    I love club matches and terrible that from next week to August/ September i cant go to any games other than special Junior. Not great for the 40 lads not on the Kilkenny panel that have ambitions to hurl


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 157 ✭✭Hawkeye6


    Village87 wrote: »
    suirway wrote: »
    Very little comment on the absolute mess the Kilkenny club championships are in. One round of matches this weekend and then that is it for potentially 5 months if KK get to the under 21 All Ireland final. Obviously we all want the county team to be successful as they were last Sunday but surely another round of matches could have been played the weekend after this. This will then result in 4 rounds of league matches having to be played later in the year followed by the championship. So club players most of whom are back since January or before it will have trained for 9 months for 1 match! A mess if ever there was one.

    Brian Cody taking no chances. Kilkenny are leaving no stone unturned, back last October, carrying a squad of near 60 for 3/4 months. Only playing one club match in April with 4 weeks to the Dublin match. Kilkenny are gone into overdrive with the professionalism and leaving clubs way behind who some clubs take as serious as intercounty. Heard Brian Cody was not having any of it when the suggestion of club matches take place next week. Something will have to change soon.

    I love club matches and terrible that from next week to August/ September i cant go to any games other than special Junior. Not great for the 40 lads not on the Kilkenny panel that have ambitions to hurl
    You really need to stop mentioning Brian Cody in your posts to have any credibility or at least mention how well he has done with the County team over the years. It is clear you are from the Village and have a personal beef with Brian Cody. I think everyone gets it at this stage. Contrary to your hopes , he is admired and respected by the majority and Brian Cody did not have a personal vote.
    The issue for clubs was created by the counties who voted for the round robin provincial championship in hurling and super 8's in football. Kilkenny as a county represented by the board was vehemently Against, but were on the losing side of a democratic vote. The county board is working frantically to get some sort of fixture setup for the clubs, not an easy job as I have said before on this forum, which works around the national democratic decision.
    The question, I pose again and posed before on this forum (with no suggestions previously), what are the clubs proposing as a solution so that club and county can work together?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,704 ✭✭✭citykat


    The clubs looked for two league matches but are only playing one. That is down to one individual not the county board.


  • Registered Users Posts: 624 ✭✭✭babyjesus14


    citykat wrote: »
    The clubs looked for two league matches but are only playing one. That is down to one individual not the county board.

    I think the weather was the main issue. The league final was played a week later than originally scheduled and that was the reason the first round of matches need to be rescheduled.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭HughCassidy


    Some people think that hurlers mentors are like pawns on a chess table when things don't work out for them just push them aside keep going you are fecked if you do and fecked if you don't sort of effort. Walked on to Nowlan park last sunday after the match we had a recent death in our family B Cody was walking over to be interviewed by one of the stations he made time for us appologised he wasn't able to be at the funeral I had my handicapped brother with me he is still talking about meeting him it meant so much to all. As somebody else said they spent forty minutes on the pitch after the match last sunday the players were amazing I never saw anything like it last Sunday the park is special M Breheney wrote article about it during the week, I was not here in 2013 but last sunday made up for what matches I missed .


  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭suirway


    Hawkeye6 wrote: »
    You really need to stop mentioning Brian Cody in your posts to have any credibility or at least mention how well he has done with the County team over the years. It is clear you are from the Village and have a personal beef with Brian Cody. I think everyone gets it at this stage. Contrary to your hopes , he is admired and respected by the majority and Brian Cody did not have a personal vote.
    The issue for clubs was created by the counties who voted for the round robin provincial championship in hurling and super 8's in football. Kilkenny as a county represented by the board was vehemently Against, but were on the losing side of a democratic vote. The county board is working frantically to get some sort of fixture setup for the clubs, not an easy job as I have said before on this forum, which works around the national democratic decision.
    The question, I pose again and posed before on this forum (with no suggestions previously), what are the clubs proposing as a solution so that club and county can work together?

    The only way I see clubs getting certainty is to forget altogether about playing the club championship until after the All Ireland. Finish the All Ireland the first weekend in August & start club championships then. Prior to this clubs can play county leagues, Byrne cup etc. So for example clubs could go back in March/April with certainty instead of the current farce. Condense the Inter county season by condensing the league for starters.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,392 ✭✭✭Village87


    suirway wrote: »
    The only way I see clubs getting certainty is to forget altogether about playing the club championship until after the All Ireland. Finish the All Ireland the first weekend in August & start club championships then. Prior to this clubs can play county leagues, Byrne cup etc. So for example clubs could go back in March/April with certainty instead of the current farce. Condense the Inter county season by condensing the league for starters.

    Get rid of thw Walsh cup and National League Q finals for starters. Being realistic most teams are back by mid to end October now so start the league a week or 2 earlier again around the 2nd week in January.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,700 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    Village87 wrote: »
    Get rid of thw Walsh cup and National League Q finals for starters. Being realistic most teams are back by mid to end October now so start the league a week or 2 earlier again around the 2nd week in January.

    Yes, that would be a good idea.
    I don't think it will ever get sorted though , will it ? Theres always something to upset the schedule. Who'd want to have to set out Fixtures ?!

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭HughCassidy


    This mess only started this year it was decided because of the super eight in football something had to be done with the hurling so it was pushed forward that so league hurling matches were run off third level colleges matches were going to be played which was not fair on the third level colleges set up. Dads army wouldn't do it as well then they decided they would have April for the clubs which was madness before a hectic month of May players playing every weekend talk about burn out. Why don't they play a league championship this thing of starting the league in January would be a joke back in the stone ages the league didn't come back until spring time I couldn't imagine people coming out in freezing January weather they wont value for money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,392 ✭✭✭Village87


    This mess only started this year it was decided because of the super eight in football something had to be done with the hurling so it was pushed forward that so league hurling matches were run off third level colleges matches were going to be played which was not fair on the third level colleges set up. Dads army wouldn't do it as well then they decided they would have April for the clubs which was madness before a hectic month of May players playing every weekend talk about burn out. Why don't they play a league championship this thing of starting the league in January would be a joke back in the stone ages the league didn't come back until spring time I couldn't imagine people coming out in freezing January weather they wont value for money.

    I was down in Cork for the opening round of the league, great attendance there. If all other outfield sports can play in January why cant GAA , soccer, rugby, american football etc. To many fixtures and competitions at present.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 157 ✭✭Hawkeye6


    citykat wrote: »
    The clubs looked for two league matches but are only playing one. That is down to one individual not the county board.
    You do know Storm Emma is not a real person??
    To be fair to Suirway he/she has made an attempt to finally get the discussion going, but to start fleshing it out.

    With an All-Ireland series ending the first weekend in August (incidentally, a bank holiday weekend and the biggest holiday week of the year), you would in all practicality have to allow two weeks before playing club championship.
    With our current championship setup as a League/Championship, it would take 9 weeks to complete assuming no replays or club bereavements or freak weather events. That would bring you to at least the last weekend in October (Another bank holiday weekend) with a league championship game played on 8 of those 9 weeks by the finalists. All achievable if no extenuating circumstances.
    Meanwhile, if we follow that into Village87 thoughts that most county teams are back by mid October, we now have some county players playing all year round. Quite a challenge for amateur players. Even the professional players have an off season. I also note the suggestion of getting rid of the Walsh Cup. Kilkenny this year used the Walsh Cup to give the whole panel a run of some kind and develop a squad. If the Walsh Cup is gone, how does that happen?  Use the National League, I presume some will suggest. So now the National League becomes the pre-season tournament. How then does Mr. Allianz feel about that? The competition that he is putting big money into, is being demeaned. The competition that is making most money for the counties is demeaned. Is Mr. Allianz going to stay interested?
    These are just a small number of the conundrums facing national, provincial and county fixtures setters.  Before anyone asks, I don't have the answers, but nobody will come up with the answers unless groups start getting the issues into the public forum in an honest way and actually discussing them with the principle of Club and County together. This is to me why the CPA has been farcical. All I've heard from them is the term "Master Fixtures List". We all know that, but what does it consist of? Is there any poster here who is actually a member who could actually enlighten me.
    My own view is that every club in the country (not the CPA), should sit down and workshop with their members, potential aspirations and solutions, These should then feed to county and subsequently to national (provincial is debatable). The workshop is not just for hurling club members, but football, Camogie and Ladies football. We all use the same asset of pitches. We are on a three year trial of supers 8's and what not, so that is the timeframe for what would be the biggest ever root and branch review in the history of the GAA.
    In the meantime, lets be hearing thoughts and for God sake,  be mature, It's not Brian Cody's fault and Emma had to drop her flakes somewhere!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,704 ✭✭✭citykat


    Hawkeye6 wrote: »
    citykat wrote: »
    The clubs looked for two league matches but are only playing one. That is down to one individual not the county board.
    You do know Storm Emma is not a real person??
    To be fair to Suirway he/she has made an attempt to finally get the discussion going, but to start fleshing it out.

    With an All-Ireland series ending the first weekend in August (incidentally, a bank holiday weekend and the biggest holiday week of the year), you would in all practicality have to allow two weeks before playing club championship.
    With our current championship setup as a League/Championship, it would take 9 weeks to complete assuming no replays or club bereavements or freak weather events. That would bring you to at least the last weekend in October (Another bank holiday weekend) with a league championship game played on 8 of those 9 weeks by the finalists. All achievable if no extenuating circumstances.
    Meanwhile, if we follow that into Village87 thoughts that most county teams are back by mid October, we now have some county players playing all year round. Quite a challenge for amateur players. Even the professional players have an off season. I also note the suggestion of getting rid of the Walsh Cup. Kilkenny this year used the Walsh Cup to give the whole panel a run of some kind and develop a squad. If the Walsh Cup is gone, how does that happen?  Use the National League, I presume some will suggest. So now the National League becomes the pre-season tournament. How then does Mr. Allianz feel about that? The competition that he is putting big money into, is being demeaned. The competition that is making most money for the counties is demeaned. Is Mr. Allianz going to stay interested?
    These are just a small number of the conundrums facing national, provincial and county fixtures setters.  Before anyone asks, I don't have the answers, but nobody will come up with the answers unless groups start getting the issues into the public forum in an honest way and actually discussing them with the principle of Club and County together. This is to me why the CPA has been farcical. All I've heard from them is the term "Master Fixtures List". We all know that, but what does it consist of? Is there any poster here who is actually a member who could actually enlighten me.
    My own view is that every club in the country (not the CPA), should sit down and workshop with their members, potential aspirations and solutions, These should then feed to county and subsequently to national (provincial is debatable). The workshop is not just for hurling club members, but football, Camogie and Ladies football. We all use the same asset of pitches. We are on a three year trial of supers 8's and what not, so that is the timeframe for what would be the biggest ever root and branch review in the history of the GAA.
    In the meantime, lets be hearing thoughts and for God sake,  be mature, It's not Brian Cody's fault and Emma had to drop her flakes somewhere!
    Nothing to do with Storm Emma - childish post. The clubs looked for two rounds of the league to be played between the end of the league and the first round of the Leinster. They were told in no uncertain terms that wouldn't happen. Cody dictates the club league schedule and has done for a number of years.


  • Registered Users Posts: 624 ✭✭✭babyjesus14


    citykat wrote: »
    Nothing to do with Storm Emma - childish post. The clubs looked for two rounds of the league to be played between the end of the league and the first round of the Leinster. They were told in no uncertain terms that wouldn't happen. Cody dictates the club league schedule and has done for a number of years.

    Not true. First round was originally scheduled for last weekend and a few matches not involving county players were due to be played but didn't go ahead due to waterlogged pitches. And the second round is going ahead this weekend as previously scheduled, with the first round to be rescheduled at a future date.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,704 ✭✭✭citykat


    Not true. First round was originally scheduled for last weekend and a few matches not involving county players were due to be played but didn't go ahead due to waterlogged pitches. And the second round is going ahead this weekend as previously scheduled, with the first round to be rescheduled at a future date.

    The approach to county board was made in the knowledge that the first round dates would clash with the league schedule. The clubs were looking for two rounds to be played.


  • Registered Users Posts: 624 ✭✭✭babyjesus14


    citykat wrote: »
    The approach to county board was made in the knowledge that the first round dates would clash with the league schedule. The clubs were looking for two rounds to be played.

    Yes those are the rumours but since the County board never made a statement on the situation they should be treated for what they are, rumours!

    This issue only arose because of the weather which you clearly stated in your post was "nothing to do with Storm Emma "!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,704 ✭✭✭citykat


    citykat wrote: »
    The approach to county board was made in the knowledge that the first round dates would clash with the league schedule. The clubs were looking for two rounds to be played.

    Yes those are the rumours but since the County board never made a statement on the situation they should be treated for what they are, rumours!

    This issue only arose because of the weather which you clearly stated in your post was "nothing to do with Storm Emma "!
    Statement! What planet are you on? The CB didn't want this to get out. That's why the chairman of the ringleading club was called in for 'a meeting'. Instead of being listened to, he was given a bollocking.


  • Registered Users Posts: 624 ✭✭✭babyjesus14


    citykat wrote: »
    Statement! What planet are you on? The CB didn't want this to get out. That's why the chairman of the ringleading club was called in for 'a meeting'. Instead of being listened to, he was given a bollocking.

    Oh fancy that "county board didn't want it to get out ", "ringleading club ", must be a big conspiracy going on?! Keep us all updated seen as you seem to have the inside track!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭HughCassidy


    Village87 wrote: »
    I was down in Cork for the opening round of the league, great attendance there. If all other outfield sports can play in January why cant GAA , soccer, rugby, american football etc. To many fixtures and competitions at present.

    So you feel amateur players should be playing all year around we are not talking about the sports above its hurling I am talking about its a summer game. Answer me a question why did the league of Ireland change from the winter to the summer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 931 ✭✭✭Cornerback1


    I think part of the problem is the the make-up of the GAA for whatever reasons. No blame attached.

    In every other sport (I think) the league is played over X amount of games and whoever tops the league is the best team that season. They then have one or two 'seconday competiions' through the year, which are knockout only.

    The GAA do the complete opposite!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,704 ✭✭✭citykat


    Oh fancy that "county board didn't want it to get out ", "ringleading club ", must be a big conspiracy going on?! Keep us all updated seen as you seem to have the inside track!

    Grow up baby. There's a lot of pissed off hurlers in Kilkenny at the moment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 624 ✭✭✭babyjesus14


    citykat wrote: »
    Grow up baby. There's a lot of pissed off hurlers in Kilkenny at the moment.

    I don't doubt there is but it's unfortunate they way things worked out because of the weather!

    And i think it's the keyboard warriors blaming it all on one individual who need to "grow up "!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 677 ✭✭✭phkk


    Result: Mullinavat 4-18 Village 0-12
    Great win by Mullinavat


  • Registered Users Posts: 648 ✭✭✭jeff bingham


    Mvat very impressive apparently back training since November which is madness. They were strong all over the field. Village very poor but they'll probably have no interest in peaking at this time of year anyway. From a county perspective scanlon was poor, most people didn't know Browne was playing. Jackie and Larkin were quite as well. John walsh was dangerous anytime ball came near him. Mick Malone was decent. Willie dywer had his usual game at midfield. Tom alyward was solid at full back. They worked much harder than the village and made way more hooks and blocks overall.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,704 ✭✭✭citykat


    The Vat were unlucky to lose to the Boro in the semi final last year. They'll be contenders again this year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,373 ✭✭✭robwen




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭blackcard


    Bennettsbridge scored a one point win over the Rower on a scoreline of 2-14 to 19 in windy conditions. It looked like a 10 point wind to me and the Rower were doing well when 8 points up after 20 minutes. However a Sean Morrissey goal meant that the lead at half-time was only 6. When Bennettsbridge scored 1-3 within 4 minutes at the start of the second half and Sean Morrissey getting his second goal , there only looked to be one winner. However, both teams seemed intent on losing with the Bridge giving away a succession of stupid scoreable frees and the Rower missing 5 of these including a free from the 21 which went along the ground. Richie Leahy played very well into the wind and the Rower backs played well. Sean Morrissey took his goals well and I thought Jason Cleere was classy even though he clearly wasn't up to speed. There looked to be a few marginal point/wide decisions which went against the Rower. Bennettsbridge will have to improve their disclipine.
    Ballyhale played very well when easily beating Comer. Playing against a very strong wind, their forwards spread the ball around very well and they lead by six at half-time, Michael Fennelly getting sent off on the stroke of half-time, I think for kicking a player on the ground. However the result was never in doubt with Ballyhale ending up winners by well into two figures. I was very impressed by the Shamrock, both their style and attitude, the likes of Richie Reid fighting hard for the ball and Adrian Mullen passing the ball to players in better positions whilst still scoring about 4 points. TJ was classy scoring 5 points from play including one whilst lying on his back. Joey Holden did well as did Eoin Reid. Conor Fogarty and Jamie Holohan were best for Comer. Ballyhale look to be in a good space under Henry Shefflin and with Darren Mullen and Colin Fennelly to come back, they have to be strong contenders this year.
    I see Paul Murphy and Richie Hogan listed in the subs tomorrow


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 931 ✭✭✭Cornerback1


    Jason Cleere should be a good addition to the KK panel now that he's back playing with the club.


  • Registered Users Posts: 31 Kkman00


    blackcard wrote: »
    Bennettsbridge scored a one point win over the Rower on a scoreline of 2-14 to 19 in windy conditions. It looked like a 10 point wind to me and the Rower were doing well when 8 points up after 20 minutes. However a Sean Morrissey goal meant that the lead at half-time was only 6. When Bennettsbridge scored 1-3 within 4 minutes at the start of the second half and Sean Morrissey getting his second goal , there only looked to be one winner. However, both teams seemed intent on losing with the Bridge giving away a succession of stupid scoreable frees and the Rower missing 5 of these including a free from the 21 which went along the ground. Richie Leahy played very well into the wind and the Rower backs played well. Sean Morrissey took his goals well and I thought Jason Cleere was classy even though he clearly wasn't up to speed. There looked to be a few marginal point/wide decisions which went against the Rower. Bennettsbridge will have to improve their disclipine.
    Ballyhale played very well when easily beating Comer. Playing against a very strong wind, their forwards spread the ball around very well and they lead by six at half-time, Michael Fennelly getting sent off on the stroke of half-time, I think for kicking a player on the ground. However the result was never in doubt with Ballyhale ending up winners by well into two figures. I was very impressed by the Shamrock, both their style and attitude, the likes of Richie Reid fighting hard for the ball and Adrian Mullen passing the ball to players in better positions whilst still scoring about 4 points. TJ was classy scoring 5 points from play including one whilst lying on his back. Joey Holden did well as did Eoin Reid. Conor Fogarty and Jamie Holohan were best for Comer. Ballyhale look to be in a good space under Henry Shefflin and with Darren Mullen and Colin Fennelly to come back, they have to be strong contenders this year.
    I see Paul Murphy and Richie Hogan listed in the subs tomorrow

    The point/wide you feel went against the rower was clearly a wide ball from there free taker and the ref correctly overruled his umpire. I agree Jason cleere was very good even though he was understandably rusty. Your man Nicky cleere is some free taker. I felt the rower had Leahy too deep throughout the game as he looked like their most likely scorer and he could have created goal chances with his pace.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,747 ✭✭✭brookville


    I was very impressed with vegas today.they seemed to have picked up where they left off last year.very fit and strong in the tackle and they weren't as reliant on john Walsh up front but he was dangerous.Ian duggan was accurate on the frees and simon alyward scored a few long range ones.mick malone stood out I thought very good work rate.they could be dangerous opposition later in the year.
    The rower will be disappointed to not get anything from today but good to see Jason cleere in good shape


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭blackcard


    Kkman00 wrote: »
    The point/wide you feel went against the rower was clearly a wide ball from there free taker and the ref correctly overruled his umpire. I agree Jason cleere was very good even though he was understandably rusty. Your man Nicky cleere is some free taker. I felt the rower had Leahy too deep throughout the game as he looked like their most likely scorer and he could have created goal chances with his pace.

    There seemed to be a dispute over 2 points but I wasn't in a position to say one way or the other. I think Nicky Cleere is up there with TJ as being the best freetakers in the county.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭blackcard


    Jason Cleere should be a good addition to the KK panel now that he's back playing with the club.

    Jason, Tommy Walsh and Paul Murphy look like they could be could be good additions, maybe not this year


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,747 ✭✭✭brookville


    Winter conditions in gowran today.The boro were the better team.Buckley didn't play.holohan made a great save near the end of the match.bolger was quite for clara although the quality of ball coming in wasn't great but he won 2 balls out hf infairness the boro immediately moved out doheny who not only quitend him he got a long range point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭HughCassidy


    Doheny is a good solid back he reminds me of Paul Murphy he was unlucky last summer with the injury he got, against Cuala in Parnell park when heads were down he kept going . Bolger will never fight for ball if it comes handy to him fair enough.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,747 ✭✭✭brookville


    I agree bout doheny I like him his a tidy hurler unlucky last year hopefully he can have a good year with the 21s.Is shane stapleton involved with dublin this year?anyone know what's wrong wit buckley or did murphy play for danefsort earlier.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭blackcard


    brookville wrote: »
    I agree bout doheny I like him his a tidy hurler unlucky last year hopefully he can have a good year with the 21s.Is shane stapleton involved with dublin this year?anyone know what's wrong wit buckley or did murphy play for danefsort earlier.

    Paul Murphy started at full back for Danesfort, looked fit enough and played okay. Wet and windy conditions were not conducive to good hurling. Richie Hogan was in a tracksuit on the sideline, looked trim. I was told he had a procedure done last Friday relating to nerves in his back and could be back hurling in June.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭HughCassidy


    You cant beat the club matches to get the people out its terrific to see so many people at these matches long live the club the heart of the gaa.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,747 ✭✭✭brookville


    You cant beat the club matches to get the people out its terrific to see so many people at these matches long live the club the heart of the gaa.

    Good crowd in gowran today considering the bad weather.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,704 ✭✭✭citykat


    brookville wrote: »
    I agree bout doheny I like him his a tidy hurler unlucky last year hopefully he can have a good year with the 21s.Is shane stapleton involved with dublin this year?anyone know what's wrong wit buckley or did murphy play for danefsort earlier.

    Heard Doheny is going to the states in the summer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,747 ✭✭✭brookville


    citykat wrote: »
    brookville wrote: »
    I agree bout doheny I like him his a tidy hurler unlucky last year hopefully he can have a good year with the 21s.Is shane stapleton involved with dublin this year?anyone know what's wrong wit buckley or did murphy play for danefsort earlier.

    Heard Doheny is going to the states in the summer.

    I'd imagine it'll be hard hold young players all over the country and you couldn't blame them.
    Doheny would be a loss to the 21s if does go travelling along with tommy walsh who was said here is gone for the year.tadgh o dwyer didn't tog yesterday either he must be injured.
    I read that buckley has ligament injury anyone know how serious he is?
    Attention will turn to dublin now in a few weeks I was reading they got club games in to rushe,Peter kelly and few more long term injured players I don't think they put much into the league we'd want to be careful going up I'd say there planning an ambush.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭HughCassidy


    brookville wrote: »
    I'd imagine it'll be hard hold young players all over the country and you couldn't blame them.
    Doheny would be a loss to the 21s if does go travelling along with tommy walsh who was said here is gone for the year.tadgh o dwyer didn't tog yesterday either he must be injured.
    I read that buckley has ligament injury anyone know how serious he is?
    Attention will turn to dublin now in a few weeks I was reading they got club games in to rushe,Peter kelly and few more long term injured players I don't think they put much into the league we'd want to be careful going up I'd say there planning an ambush.

    Did we ever go up to parnell park just for the day out they will be ready tight pitch etc we will need everybody ready.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,458 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    robwen wrote: »

    Some team:

    1. Eoin Murphy

    2. Michael Kavanagh
    3. Noel Hickey
    4. Jackie Tyrell

    5. Tommy Walsh
    6. Brian Hogan
    7. JJ Delaney

    8. Michael Fennelly
    9. Richie Hogan

    10. TJ Reid
    11. Henry Shefflin
    12. Eoin Larkin

    13. Eddie Brennan
    14. DJ Carey
    15. Richie Power


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,392 ✭✭✭Village87


    Who played well at the club matches the weekend? Was at the village match, Luke Scanlon & Conor Browne were poor. Mvat looked very good especially 2 Malones & 2 Aylwards. Stopped off in Danesfort on the way home to watch Freshford play Tullogher, Walter Walsh looked very good as did Conor Hennessy. James Maher very poor. Darren Brennan played well he was busy throughout


  • Registered Users Posts: 700 ✭✭✭bamayang


    Conor Tobin ran the show for fenians. Very strange he hasn’t been in with county. Big quick and great to take a score. Lisdowney desperately poor and lucky enough to win it. Johnstown played last 20 with 14 men. JJ is a little slower but cute as ever.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,747 ✭✭✭brookville


    Evan cody was good for the boro and I thought kevin blanchfield was decent for the bridge and nicky cleere very good obviously frees as usual.


  • Registered Users Posts: 624 ✭✭✭babyjesus14


    Thought Conor Doheny was the stand out hurler in Gowran yesterday and Matt Kenny was very good for Clara both should have big roles to play with DJ's 21's this season. Was at John's Park Saturday evening, Carrickshock were shocking really can't see them winning a game this season. Joe Brennan was outstanding for Ballyragget, he must look at the current Kilkenny set up and wish he was 21 or 22 now rather than back '11 when he was added to the panel and was competing with some of the greatest hurlers ever to play the game. Then again he did win a couple of All Irelands, no guarantee that the current group will be so lucky.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭blackcard


    Bill Sheahan got very little possession but scored two points while Lester Ryan got on a lot of ball. TJ carried on his excellent form and Joey Holden was solid at full back. Conor Fogarty played the full 60 minutes, Conor Delaney was ok


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