Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 2 **MOD NOTE POST 1***

HughCassidy

Village87 wrote: »

Who played well at the club matches the weekend? Was at the village match, Luke Scanlon & Conor Browne were poor. Mvat looked very good especially 2 Malones & 2 Aylwards. Stopped off in Danesfort on the way home to watch Freshford play Tullogher, Walter Walsh looked very good as did Conor Hennessy. James Maher very poor. Darren Brennan played well he was busy throughout

Maher hurled very well in the first half he sort of ran out of steam in the second half.

Cornerback1

Are the U21's training by themselves these days or have they taken a break? Or will they just join up a few weeks out and go hard at it?

babyjesus14

Cornerback1 wrote: »

Are the U21's training by themselves these days or have they taken a break? Or will they just join up a few weeks out and go hard at it?

Playing Limerick in a challenge match on Wednesday night.

HughCassidy

babyjesus14 wrote: »

Playing Limerick in a challenge match on Wednesday night.

Any chance that match would be played in Dunmore.

babyjesus14

HughCassidy wrote: »

Any chance that match would be played in Dunmore.

Don't know where it's on.

brookville

What kinda team will the u 21s be this year?dunphy in goal.
Defenders michael cody,doheny,mullen, hennessy,matt kenny,bergin,Tommy walsh injured it's being said.
We should have options from mf up.
Leahy,donnelly,mossy,sheehan,tadgh dwyer,andy gaffney,conor hennessy,Sean carey,I'm probably missing a few.I don't know if Adrian mullen will be an option probably not with his leaving cert.

babyjesus14

brookville wrote: »

What kinda team will the u 21s be this year?dunphy in goal.
Defenders michael cody,doheny,mullen, hennessy,matt kenny,bergin,Tommy walsh injured it's being said.
We should have options from mf up.
Leahy,donnelly,mossy,sheehan,tadgh dwyer,andy gaffney,conor hennessy,Sean carey,I'm probably missing a few.I don't know if Adrian mullen will be an option probably not with his leaving cert.

First game not till June 20th so Leaving Cert will pretty much be near over. Would fully expect Adrian Mullen to make the team.

Niall Brassil, Cathal McGrath, Shane Murphy, Sean Bolger, Sean Buggy, Ed Delaney, James Bergin, Colum Prenderville would be other contenders.

brookville

babyjesus14 wrote: »

brookville wrote: »

What kinda team will the u 21s be this year?dunphy in goal.
Defenders michael cody,doheny,mullen, hennessy,matt kenny,bergin,Tommy walsh injured it's being said.
We should have options from mf up.
Leahy,donnelly,mossy,sheehan,tadgh dwyer,andy gaffney,conor hennessy,Sean carey,I'm probably missing a few.I don't know if Adrian mullen will be an option probably not with his leaving cert.

First game not till June 20th so Leaving Cert will pretty much be near over. Would fully expect Adrian Mullen to make the team.

Niall Brassil, Cathal McGrath, Shane Murphy, Sean Bolger, Sean Buggy, Ed Delaney, James Bergin, Colum Prenderville would be other contenders.

babyjesus14 wrote: »

brookville wrote: »

What kinda team will the u 21s be this year?dunphy in goal.
Defenders michael cody,doheny,mullen, hennessy,matt kenny,bergin,Tommy walsh injured it's being said.
We should have options from mf up.
Leahy,donnelly,mossy,sheehan,tadgh dwyer,andy gaffney,conor hennessy,Sean carey,I'm probably missing a few.I don't know if Adrian mullen will be an option probably not with his leaving cert.

First game not till June 20th so Leaving Cert will pretty much be near over. Would fully expect Adrian Mullen to make the team.

Niall Brassil, Cathal McGrath, Shane Murphy, Sean Bolger, Sean Buggy, Ed Delaney, James Bergin, Colum Prenderville would be other contenders.

I don't know if joey cuddihy made the cut but he impressed me at times last year although got subbed near the end of most matches.Hopefully he'll benefit from henry managing and hurling alongside tj and company.
I know the u21 play Galway first is that game knock out yea?

babyjesus14

brookville wrote: »

I don't know if joey cuddihy made the cut but he impressed me at times last year although got subbed near the end of most matches.Hopefully he'll benefit from henry managing and hurling alongside tj and company.
I know the u21 play Galway first is that game knock out yea?

Yep. Very nasty draw considering Galway will have a game under their belt assuming the beat Offaly. Galway will also be very strong, won the corresponding Minor All-Ireland and another one since.

Kilkenny have been training since the beginning of December and could very well have one game. I know fixtures are a very contentious minefield at the moment but this doesn't seem very fair particularly when you consider that the majority of them are in 3rd level college and are probably passing up opportunities to go abroad.

Village87

babyjesus14 wrote: »

Yep. Very nasty draw considering Galway will have a game under their belt assuming the beat Offaly. Galway will also be very strong, won the corresponding Minor All-Ireland and another one since.

Kilkenny have been training since the beginning of December and could very well have one game. I know fixtures are a very contentious minefield at the moment but this doesn't seem very fair particularly when you consider that the majority of them are in 3rd level college and are probably passing up opportunities to go abroad.

Great competition, no second chance every team knows whats at stake.

On the issue of fixtures i see, Cork Tipp, Dublin, Wexford are still playing club fixtures and aside from Tipperary were all finished before Kilkenny in the Inter county scene.

When Kilkenny had the run of the system and the winning All Irelands every year Brian Cody and the county board always stated that clubs come first in the fixtures calendar. Some s*ite talk

Now Kilkenny are one of the worst county boards for looking after club fixtures in the country and we dont even have football to deal with

babyjesus14

Village87 wrote: »

Great competition, no second chance every team knows whats at stake.

On the issue of fixtures i see, Cork Tipp, Dublin, Wexford are still playing club fixtures and aside from Tipperary were all finished before Kilkenny in the Inter county scene.

When Kilkenny had the run of the system and the winning All Irelands every year Brian Cody and the county board always stated that clubs come first in the fixtures calendar. Some s*ite talk

Now Kilkenny are one of the worst county boards for looking after club fixtures in the country and we dont even have football to deal with

While the club v county issue is very decisive, this season was always going to be a learning experience for everyone which was further complicated by losing two weekends to weather. I would imagine that the situation will be better managed next year.

You are conveniently ignoring the fact that Cork, Tipperary and Wexford's first Championship match is the weekend after ours and will have a the same 4 week run in uninterrupted by club matches(which is the minimum stipulated by central council) as ourselves!

danganabu

babyjesus14 wrote: »

While the club v county issue is very decisive, this season was always going to be a learning experience for everyone which was further complicated by losing two weekends to weather. I would imagine that the situation will be better managed next year.

You are conveniently ignoring the fact that Cork, Tipperary and Wexford's first Championship match is the weekend after ours and will have a the same 4 week run in uninterrupted by club matches(which is the minimum stipulated by central council) as ourselves!

Can't speak for Cork or Wexford but Tipperary most certainly wont have a 4 week gap from club to county, there will be a round of club games played on the w/e 6th May leaving two weeks to the Limerick game.

HughCassidy

babyjesus14 wrote: »

While the club v county issue is very decisive, this season was always going to be a learning experience for everyone which was further complicated by losing two weekends to weather. I would imagine that the situation will be better managed next year.

You are conveniently ignoring the fact that Cork, Tipperary and Wexford's first Championship match is the weekend after ours and will have a the same 4 week run in uninterrupted by club matches(which is the minimum stipulated by central council) as ourselves!

He does not seem to have the ability to understand these things.

HughCassidy

Village87 wrote: »

Great competition, no second chance every team knows whats at stake.

On the issue of fixtures i see, Cork Tipp, Dublin, Wexford are still playing club fixtures and aside from Tipperary were all finished before Kilkenny in the Inter county scene.

When Kilkenny had the run of the system and the winning All Irelands every year Brian Cody and the county board always stated that clubs come first in the fixtures calendar. Some s*ite talk

Now Kilkenny are one of the worst county boards for looking after club fixtures in the country and we dont even have football to deal with

Did your county board vote in this situation no you seem to have a grudge with Brian Cody , my opinion is like what Colm o Rourke said in his article the clubs should march on Croke park. People like you seem to think players should be used and abused this whole thing is a farce but blaming your Co board for a thing they didn't vote in they are fecked if they do they are fecked if they don't. Don't make me laugh.

minty81

Any update on Buckleys injury?

babyjesus14

minty81 wrote: »

Any update on Buckleys injury?

Four weeks according to the Kilkenny People which makes him a doubt for the Dublin match. This would be a worry, only player who is more important than him at the moment is TJ, but also who's his replacement? Jason Cleere after playing just one club match in the last six months?

brookville

Mark dowling said it was more of a precaution that it was a bruised knee but the kk people said different.I think I read matt o hanlon from wex has the same injury but he also should be ready for the first round.I'm sure cillian will get the best treatment to have him ready as he is so important to us.Buckley settled things after the clare match at 6 and we have no real replacement with joe lyng away and conor o shea unfortunately not able to nail down a spot.Cillian is very intelligent and has everything you need in a number 6.
Better news on richie hogan who's hoping to step up training it'd be a huge boost to have him back on the panel.
Ger aylward didn't tog out for glenmore at the weekend either.

Billy Ocean

babyjesus14 wrote: »

While the club v county issue is very decisive, this season was always going to be a learning experience for everyone which was further complicated by losing two weekends to weather. I would imagine that the situation will be better managed next year.

You are conveniently ignoring the fact that Cork, Tipperary and Wexford's first Championship match is the weekend after ours and will have a the same 4 week run in uninterrupted by club matches(which is the minimum stipulated by central council) as ourselves!

In Wexford we played football league/championship the last 2 weekends and hurling this coming weekend, was initially meant to be 2 rounds of each but lost 2 weekends in March due to snow.

That's a 4 week gap to our 1st hurling game on may 20th and 3 week gap for football on May12th. Most of our hurlers play both codes with there clubs same applies to the footballers

HughCassidy

babyjesus14 wrote: »

Playing Limerick in a challenge match on Wednesday night.

Any word on the u21 match this night.

babyjesus14

HughCassidy wrote: »

Any word on the u21 match this night.

Should find out this evening. Going to a Minor match, the father of one of the Under 21 players should be there.

The 21's are also playing Tipp in a challenge match on the May bank holiday Monday in Gortnahoe, think this is an annual charity gig so a chance to kill two birds with the one stone. Unfortunately I am away with work that week.

Village87

HughCassidy wrote: »

Did your county board vote in this situation no you seem to have a grudge with Brian Cody , my opinion is like what Colm o Rourke said in his article the clubs should march on Croke park. People like you seem to think players should be used and abused this whole thing is a farce but blaming your Co board for a thing they didn't vote in they are fecked if they do they are fecked if they don't. Don't make me laugh.

Ok the county board voted against it. But why is every other hurling county out this week and some next and Kilkenny only released there county players for 7 days after having them for 5 months already, with one club match last week. What a shambles!!

Why is there not more club fixtures this weekend or next. Dublin, Wexford and Galway are out this weekend with the Clubs and had club fixtures the last 2/3 weeks. Kilkenny county board are a disgrace they way they are treating club fixtures and players at present, few clubs tried to voice the opinion of all the clubs recently that we would like to see another round of fixtures but this was shot down immediately and told to stay quiet on the matter.

Fair play to all the other hurling county boards & managers for releasing there club players for 3/4 weeks to show that Club fixtures are what makes the GAA as strong as it is. Kilkenny county board take note!!

conor05

Lads does anyone know if Kilkenny are training this Saturday in Nowlan Park and what time?
I’d like to go and see them train.

Village87

conor05 wrote: »

Lads does anyone know if Kilkenny are training this Saturday in Nowlan Park and what time?
I’d like to go and see them train.

Doors are shut for training as far as i know

brookville

conor05 wrote: »

Lads does anyone know if Kilkenny are training this Saturday in Nowlan Park and what time?
I’d like to go and see them train.

They've being shut for a few years I doubt any spectators would be allowed in it was great a few years ago but that's the way most teams are gone now

dastardly00

If Buckley misses any match then we are are in serious trouble

brookville

Our four central players are hugely important for us but if buckley doesn't make it i wouldn't mind fogarty at 6.

Justice for the individual

randd1 wrote: »

Unbelievably talented hurler, one of the greats.

Two images come to mind, the third goal against Waterford in 2008 that put the cherry on top of the most awesome performance in an AI final, and that catch, turn and score to seal the AI against Tipp in 2011. His iconic images in the black and amber for me.

That said, his greatest performance for me was in the replay of the 2011 county final against the Shamrocks, it was pure mastery and poetry, and probably the finest individual display Nowlan Park has ever seen.

Yes, I was at that match (2011 County Final) and I have always said to people that it was the best display of skill and accuracy in scoring points from long range that I have ever seen - absolutely brilliant - and a very humble and unassuming guy.

HughCassidy

Village87 wrote: »

Ok the county board voted against it. But why is every other hurling county out this week and some next and Kilkenny only released there county players for 7 days after having them for 5 months already, with one club match last week. What a shambles!!

Why is there not more club fixtures this weekend or next. Dublin, Wexford and Galway are out this weekend with the Clubs and had club fixtures the last 2/3 weeks. Kilkenny county board are a disgrace they way they are treating club fixtures and players at present, few clubs tried to voice the opinion of all the clubs recently that we would like to see another round of fixtures but this was shot down immediately and told to stay quiet on the matter.

Fair play to all the other hurling county boards & managers for releasing there club players for 3/4 weeks to show that Club fixtures are what makes the GAA as strong as it is. Kilkenny county board take note!!

Were you at the meeting where this was shot down or is it street gossip I say if the league final had not come that was another weekend lost are a lot of these teams not out until the weekend after we play . March on Nowlan park

brookville

I wonder will there be any more cuts to the senior panel after the league?there usually is before the championship.
joe lyng is due back soon he was one of our better performer's against waterford last year.
Hogan should be back training soon and the 2 army men are due in a few weeks.Jason cleere should be linking back up with the panel while it'll be a few weeks before Kevin kelly is back.
Hopefully ger alyward and cillian can get the injuries cleared up before the round robin begins.

blackcard

Presuming that Aylward, Fennelly, Murphy and Hogan will not be involved, the team that I would pick is:
Eoin Murphy
Joey Holden
Padraig Walsh
Conor Delaney
Cillian Buckley
Enda Morrissey
Richie Leahy
Conor Fogarty
Martin Keoghan
TJ Reid
John Donnelly
Alan Murphy
Walter Walsh
Liam Blanchfield.
Dublin at home with the Cuala lads back is going to be tough. A loss would probably mean that we make an early exit from the championship. A win would probably mean that the four lads mentioned above along with Kevin Kelly have a chance of being involved

HughCassidy

brookville wrote: »

I wonder will there be any more cuts to the senior panel after the league?there usually is before the championship.
joe lyng is due back soon he was one of our better performer's against waterford last year.
Hogan should be back training soon and the 2 army men are due in a few weeks.Jason cleere should be linking back up with the panel while it'll be a few weeks before Kevin kelly is back.
Hopefully ger alyward and cillian can get the injuries cleared up before the round robin begins.

You wonder about C Martin.

brookville

blackcard wrote: »

Presuming that Aylward, Fennelly, Murphy and Hogan will not be involved, the team that I would pick is:
Eoin Murphy
Joey Holden
Padraig Walsh
Conor Delaney
Cillian Buckley
Enda Morrissey
Richie Leahy
Conor Fogarty
Martin Keoghan
TJ Reid
John Donnelly
Alan Murphy
Walter Walsh
Liam Blanchfield.
Dublin at home with the Cuala lads back is going to be tough. A loss would probably mean that we make an early exit from the championship. A win would probably mean that the four lads mentioned above along with Kevin Kelly have a chance of being involved

Intresting that only 4 cuala lads have committed.Cronin and o connell and mark schutte haven't joined up they'll be a loss.liam rushe has very little hurling done but I agree this will be a huge match if we get up and running with a win over the dubs we could have a decent summer.

jeff bingham

blackcard wrote:

Presuming that Aylward, Fennelly, Murphy and Hogan will not be involved, the team that I would pick is: Eoin Murphy Joey Holden Padraig Walsh Conor Delaney Cillian Buckley Enda Morrissey Richie Leahy Conor Fogarty Martin Keoghan TJ Reid John Donnelly Alan Murphy Walter Walsh Liam Blanchfield. Dublin at home with the Cuala lads back is going to be tough. A loss would probably mean that we make an early exit from the championship. A win would probably mean that the four lads mentioned above along with Kevin Kelly have a chance of being involved

Presume you have Deegen as the missing corner back. James Maher unlucky but I would have Fogarty in all day once fit and Richie leahy is now Def a first choice player.

blackcard

jeff bingham wrote: »

Presume you have Deegen as the missing corner back. James Maher unlucky but I would have Fogarty in all day once fit and Richie leahy is now Def a first choice player.

Yeah, I should have included Deegan. Leahy has come on a ton in the last year, very impressive for the Rower in his last match. I think the only places up for grabs are the corner forward spots. For me, Bill Sheahan is still a bit light and I am not sure about the fitness yet of Ger Aylward

brookville

The new lads have being immense but leahy looks very exciting.His good in the air,knows where the posts are and has pace.He does take a bit too much out of the ball at times but his learning his trade at the moment.

HughCassidy

brookville wrote: »

The new lads have being immense but leahy looks very exciting.His good in the air,knows where the posts are and has pace.He does take a bit too much out of the ball at times but his learning his trade at the moment.

Michael Fennelly and himself would have been a great combination together may be C Fogarty might be the man there with him down through the years in kilkenny you had the grafter the stylist, Frank Cummins, v Liam o Brien , joe Hennessy.

Realt Dearg Sec

HughCassidy wrote: »

Michael Fennelly and himself would have been a great combination together may be C Fogarty might be the man there with him down through the years in kilkenny you had the grafter the stylist, Frank Cummins, v Liam o Brien , joe Hennessy.

Same with Lyng and Cha.

Have enjoyed watching Leahy play this year. What Brookville says about him could probably all apply to Keoghan as well. Good man for going looking for tough ball, and if he was a bit bigger he'd be nearly the full package for a wing forward, no bother on him going for scores either.

suirway

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Same with Lyng and Cha.

Have enjoyed watching Leahy play this year. What Brookville says about him could probably all apply to Keoghan as well. Good man for going looking for tough ball, and if he was a bit bigger he'd be nearly the full package for a wing forward, no bother on him going for scores either.

Keoghan is plenty big enough. He definitely must be 6 foot and a build very similar to likes of Eoin Larkin in his day.

brookville

I was told colin is back in the country and has already linked back up with the county set up.

Realt Dearg Sec

suirway wrote: »

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Same with Lyng and Cha.

Have enjoyed watching Leahy play this year. What Brookville says about him could probably all apply to Keoghan as well. Good man for going looking for tough ball, and if he was a bit bigger he'd be nearly the full package for a wing forward, no bother on him going for scores either.

Keoghan is plenty big enough. He definitely must be 6 foot and a build very similar to likes of Eoin Larkin in his day.

I meant big in terms of strength, rather than height, it's not a criticism, he's just very young. I've no doubt he'll have a great career

brookville

babyjesus14 wrote: »

HughCassidy wrote: »

Any word on the u21 match this night.

Should find out this evening. Going to a Minor match, the father of one of the Under 21 players should be there.

The 21's are also playing Tipp in a challenge match on the May bank holiday Monday in Gortnahoe, think this is an annual charity gig so a chance to kill two birds with the one stone. Unfortunately I am away with work that week.

Any idea how that u21 match went or how are they going with challenge matches?I know they wont see much of the 5 or 6 lads with the seniors hopefully they can integrate into the team later in year and challenge matches can be misleading but they can give teams an idea how there going.

davidx40

Blackcard ....are you seriously saying all Alan Murphy should start ....what in name of god has he ever done at minor for 2 years , u 21 2 years

Topcat32

davidx40 wrote: »

Blackcard ....are you seriously saying all Alan Murphy should start ....what in name of god has he ever done at minor for 2 years , u 21 2 years

Was a good minor in my opinion, nothing earth shattering but good on the frees and dangerous from general play, contributed well to the all Ireland win. Like most of the younger Kilkenny players was underwhelming at under 21 level

brookville

davidx40 wrote: »

Blackcard ....are you seriously saying all Alan Murphy should start ....what in name of god has he ever done at minor for 2 years , u 21 2 years

To be honest I wouldn't be starting him during the summer yet but from what I remember he was a good minor the semi final against waterford which went to extra time he was very good.I know he was on and off the u21 last year but I'd persist with him on the panel he should of got 2 points in early stages of the league final and given time I think he could be a dangerous player.He might be better coming on when a game opens up.
I think blanchfield will also be used as an impact sub this year I know he gets his criticism here but cody is working on him and obviously is a better judge than we are here hopefully he will come good we all forget his only 21 look at jason forde only coming good now after 3 or 4 years on the tipp panel.looking at liam against the rower match up close his a huge man now if he tidies up his hurling he could be a handful.

blackcard

davidx40 wrote: »

Blackcard ....are you seriously saying all Alan Murphy should start ....what in name of god has he ever done at minor for 2 years , u 21 2 years

Cody started him in the League Final so I wouldn't be surprised if he started him against Dublin. I think Bill Sheahan and Luke Scanlon are too light, Conor Martin has had his chances, I am assuming Ger Aylward will not be fully fit. Pat Lyng is not a corner forward so who does that leave?

brookville

Hopefully ger will be ready for the round robin he hasn't played since the wexford match which will be 5 or 6 weeks weeks till the first round.
It's a shame kevin kelly has being injured because he'd be an option corner forward.
Cody tried richie reid corner forward against offally that didn't work.
His now trying to convert scanlon into a corner foward and it might work but he still looks light.
Started leahy against clare corner forward but leahy came out mf in the 2nd half and really is only a mf or maybe wing forward.
I like sheehan he'll give you everything he has but like a few others he could be a bit away from senior.
Conor martin is on the panel 3 years now he should be closer to that team but his a good bit down the pecking order I'd nearly have someone like billy ryan in there instead.

citykat

Fair play to the Galway county board. Less than 3 weeks out from the first round of the Leinster but playing club games.

blackcard

brookville wrote: »

To be honest I wouldn't be starting him during the summer yet but from what I remember he was a good minor the semi final against waterford which went to extra time he was very good.I know he was on and off the u21 last year but I'd persist with him on the panel he should of got 2 points in early stages of the league final and given time I think he could be a dangerous player.He might be better coming on when a game opens up.
I think blanchfield will also be used as an impact sub this year I know he gets his criticism here but cody is working on him and obviously is a better judge than we are here hopefully he will come good we all forget his only 21 look at jason forde only coming good now after 3 or 4 years on the tipp panel.looking at liam against the rower match up close his a huge man now if he tidies up his hurling he could be a handful.

Who do you think should start?

brookville

It's hard to know who'll be fit or going well in a few weeks time.We could see fogarty join maher or leahy in mf or we could see leahy wing foward with tj and mossy.
Maybe his going to keep some strength on the bench.
Id say mossy is ahead of the other newcomers in attack although the others have done well mossy has being the most impressive imo.
If alyward is fit he'll probably start with wally and there'll be a spot up for grabs in the other corner who ever is going well in training we won't know till the friday before the match when the team is announced.

laneykin

Just trying to work out how many man of the match awards TJ got in the League, am I right in saying 5?

Against Waterford, Wexford, Offaly, Wexford in the semi final and against Tipperary in the final too?