Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 2 **MOD NOTE POST 1***

KevIRL

Thought Padraig Walsh was the best on the field for KK today. Poor game overall, no doubt affected by a shockingly bad pitch.

deadybai

Wouldn't be worried at all as a Kilkenny fan. Thought that our intensity was half of what Waterford had which is down to fitness levels. Waterford were clearly sharper fitness wise.

Waterford were excellent today yet only won by four points. I thought young cody was the standout performer for us.

catseye2

disappointing day.. thought field was shocking and ball couldnt move. not sure if a ball rolled out of play all day. great work out for our back 7 who coped well. richie couldnt get moving and there was some strange ref calls. i thought we lost most of the rucks and mauls. might ne worth trying padraid walsh in midfield

on a side note. whats with all the green helmets in defence. the commentator gave paul murphy credit for every catch but i think it was well shared out. joyce was in good shape and decent start for cody. definitely not conditions for mark kelly and colin fenn. i think we got 2 shots on goal all day

brookville

Both sets of backs were very good I thought cody hurled well for his first day out,ya wouldn't put cows out in that field.Waterford were fully deserving of the victory but that game will bring us on.i would have a slight concern bout our fowards if one one or two were to get injured we would be in trouble.Next weekends match should be more open.

PlayByTheRules

JonJo Farrell & Mark Kelly have been given many chances for ye at this stage and keep failing to deliver. Hard to understand. I would think their chances are almost up. Walter Walsh would not make most county teams either - very unskilled but I suppose he serves one of Cody's needs.

I was very impressed with Joey Holden though, starting to look like the real deal.

brookville

John joe and kelly very poor today but they weren't alone, colin and walter also very poor.It was impossible to find any space so credit to waterford.john joe and kelly are usually good league hurlers but it was impossible to find space today.i thought joey was excellent along with his other defenders today but tipp will bring a much stiffer test next weekend

Cornerback1

Just back in house at 9:30pm after 4hrs in car. Firstly, as alluded to, pitch was very poor. At times, itwas more like rugby. Our fowards with the exception of T.J. were poor. W'ford should have been 6 or 7pts up at half time. In first half, ball into our forwards always came back out. It's early days yet as we looked off pace - other teams 1mth ahead in terms of fitness etc.

One point, Padraig was pushed up into forwards in 2nd half. Is that asign the forwards on the bench aren't up to it or was Padraig the spareman and just pushed up on their spare man?

droppingball

It really was a day for backs due to the conditions, watched highlights of other games last night and the ball was bouncing and rolling where as in Walsh Park it was plugging causing rucks. Waterfords handpassing game meant most passes were going to hand whereas when we moved the ball if it hit the ground attacks just broke down.

Thought all forwards struggled, like others thought Joey was excellent, he is an extremely tight marker and maintains contact with the man at all times making it hard for his man to win the ball even if Joey doesn't win it himself.

Waterford seemed well ahead in preparation but every week is different in the league and training levels depend on what is in the legs for the players. Thought it was strange that Austin Gleeson got man of the match, was on mountains of ball but he is a very wasteful player, long pointless solo runs and pot shots. He has all the ability and skill but very frustrating to watch, should model himself of Tony Kelly (although different positions, I mean when in possession of the ball) from Clare who is similar type of player but more effective.

All that said Waterford were the better team by far and should have won pulling up if they had taken Maurice of the frees earlier after all the skyscraper frees on a windy day. Waterford will be hard team to beat in the league but the hardening of the ground and better fitness will bring us on.

tbiggertycome

I was out of the country for the game and haven't got a chance to see the recording yet but the score or performance doesn't surprise me too much if the pitch was that bad. I met two of the hurlers the week before last and they looked shattered and said they were as well. They're obviously getting plenty of hard slog one of them told me his legs were just dead he was wore out completely.

Still no excuse by the sounds of it Waterford could have won by a cricket score if they could have hit the target. A question on Waterford's wides, were many of the attempts from beyond 50yards (from play) or beyond 65 (from frees)?

droppingball

Maurice missed a few frees from around 70/80 yards and they had 11 wides in total during first half, most were hail marys, they had 7 wides in second half. Austin Gleeson had 6 wides alone, mostly pot shots.

Cornerback1

tbiggertycome wrote: »

I was out of the country for the game and haven't got a chance to see the recording yet but the score or performance doesn't surprise me too much if the pitch was that bad. I met two of the hurlers the week before last and they looked shattered and said they were as well. They're obviously getting plenty of hard slog one of them told me his legs were just dead he was wore out completely.

Still no excuse by the sounds of it Waterford could have won by a cricket score if they could have hit the target. A question on Waterford's wides, were many of the attempts from beyond 50yards (from play) or beyond 65 (from frees)?

Maurice Shanahan hit 4 or 5 from distance with angled breeze. He hit them very high and they went off and went wide. He scored 1 free from 30 yards in front of goals.

TJ must have scored 3 ,i think, in the first half against breeze. His were 'passed' over the bar..lowish trajectory but accurate. Although he had 1 that was too low in 2nd half and was saved.

In 2nd half, Waterford must have tried 2 or 3 other free takers and if they'd hit their frees they'd have won by 15pts.

Re; Austin Gleeson. Super talent but takes too much out of it. Mc Grath needs to tell him to do the simple thing. Twice, if I remember, he went on 2 lung busting solo runs and had 2 men outside him on both occasions but opted to take the man on and lost possession. He gets loads of possession but his decision making needs to be worked on but has loads of ability.

Topcat32

Richie Power getting some abuse on twitter and the independent today, pretty funny but its a bit ridiculous that a journalist trawls twitter looking for a comment thats really being shared with his friends.

JimboJones99

Cornerback1 wrote: »

Re; Austin Gleeson. Super talent but takes too much out of it. Mc Grath needs to tell him to do the simple thing. Twice, if I remember, he went on 2 lung busting solo runs and had 2 men outside him on both occasions but opted to take the man on and lost possession. He gets loads of possession but his decision making needs to be worked on but has loads of ability.

Yeah I agree, Gleeson has all the skills to be one of the best players in the game but he is doing himself or his team no favours with his selfishness in every game. He must be very frustrating to play with. If I was an inside forward I would be fuming with him. He scores some breath-taking scores but they usually only come after 4 or 5 aimless pot shots whereby he would be better off laying it off to someone else.

Waterford people will claim that he is an entertainer and a fella with his skill and talent should be allowed to express himself whatever way he likes but ultimately he will let the team down. The way he plays at the minute he wouldn't be on the KK team despite probably having more talent than a lot of our players

dastardly00

Topcat32 wrote: »

Richie Power getting some abuse on twitter and the independent today, pretty funny but its a bit ridiculous that a journalist trawls twitter looking for a comment thats really being shared with his friends.

Yet again it's one of those times when I wonder how the editor allowed such a non-story like that to be published.

babyjesus14

tbiggertycome wrote: »

I was out of the country for the game and haven't got a chance to see the recording yet but the score or performance doesn't surprise me too much if the pitch was that bad. I met two of the hurlers the week before last and they looked shattered and said they were as well. They're obviously getting plenty of hard slog one of them told me his legs were just dead he was wore out completely.

Still no excuse by the sounds of it Waterford could have won by a cricket score if they could have hit the target. A question on Waterford's wides, were many of the attempts from beyond 50yards (from play) or beyond 65 (from frees)?

Yeah, the majority of the wides were from distance. They hit 12 in the first half and at least 8 or 9 were at the same post.

babyjesus14

I was very surprised when they announced Austin Gleeson as the tg4 MOTM as we made our way out. He hit 6 wides and on another two occasions he ran straight into traffic when he had support runners. There is no doubt that he is a great athlete and potentially a super hurler but he really need to develop a team ethic. I was very surprised to read a quote from Derek McGrath in the Sunday Times where he "allows (Gleeson) to go for it on the pitch". That sort of individualism would never be condoned let alone encouraged by BC. My choice for MOTM would have been Colin Dunford.

Canadel

PlayByTheRules wrote: »

JonJo Farrell & Mark Kelly have been given many chances for ye at this stage and keep failing to deliver. Hard to understand. I would think their chances are almost up. Walter Walsh would not make most county teams either - very unskilled but I suppose he serves one of Cody's needs.

I was very impressed with Joey Holden though, starting to look like the real deal.

Whenever I see him I always think he is amongst the most skilful players on the KK team. I think he suffers more from mobility issues due to his size. Fabulous hurler imo.

Cornerback1

Canadel wrote: »

Whenever I see him I always think he is amongst the most skilful players on the KK team. I think he suffers more from mobility issues due to his size. Fabulous hurler imo.

He only came into game in last 5min yesterday!! I think he's a physical presence in middle third when the dry sod comes. Target for puck outs at half forward or can switch into full forward during games.

Who else is there to take his place at the minute is the bigger question?

Canadel

Cornerback1 wrote: »

He only came into game in last 5min yesterday!! I think he's a physical presence in middle third when the dry sod comes. Target for puck outs at half forward or can switch into full forward during games.

Who else is there to take his place at the minute is the bigger question?

Haha I only saw the last few minutes of the game but I meant in general. Anyway, he's a gifted hurler I think, and similar to Colin Fennelly, he's due a stand out season. Both tremendously talented players who need to take some of the strain off Reid and Hogan. I don't know much about KK hurling other than from what I see in the Summer sorry. My opinions are based solely on that.

brookville

Wally isn't everyone's cup of tea but he does a job for kk, he can mix the very good with the very poor.just on yesterday's performance I'd be confident there'll be a reaction especially from the fowards next weekend hopefully there'll be a few changes up front.i think any foward would of struggled against that defence and in those conditions

dastardly00

Canadel wrote: »

Whenever I see him I always think he is amongst the most skilful players on the KK team. I think he suffers more from mobility issues due to his size. Fabulous hurler imo.

:eek: :eek: :eek:

I can't believe you think Wally is one of the most skilful players on the KK team. His ball striking is shockingly poor. Have a look at the Leinster final from last year against Dublin.

(I am quite critical of Wally I know).

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dastardly00 wrote: »

:eek: :eek: :eek:

I can't believe you think Wally is one of the most skilful players on the KK team. His ball striking is shockingly poor. Have a look at the Leinster final from last year against Dublin.

(I am quite critical of Wally I know).

You might be critical of him, but by any measure he is a fairly awkward hurler. He has his advantages, but being notably skilful wouldn't be one of them for me.

droppingball

Watched the match back, team was blowing very hard in the second half, however they fought for everything and showed good heart. One thing that was noticeable was the amount of ball we drove down the centre of the field in the second half, come the summer if faced by the 7 man defence we need to spray the ball a little better.

Interesting to see what changes will be made come the weekend, hopefully Kevin Kelly, John Power and maybe Conor O Shea would see some game time. I would also love to know if Michael Rice is back with the panel.

Cornerback1

droppingball wrote: »

Watched the match back, team was blowing very hard in the second half, however they fought for everything and showed good heart. One thing that was noticeable was the amount of ball we drove down the centre of the field in the second half, come the summer if faced by the 7 man defence we need to spray the ball a little better.

Interesting to see what changes will be made come the weekend, hopefully Kevin Kelly, John Power and maybe Conor O Shea would see some game time. I would also love to know if Michael Rice is back with the panel.

True, there was a lot of ball battered out to midfield area, by both teams, with no one there but the opposition. Game became very open in 2nd and players playing everywhere.

They hung there and i was surprised BC didn't make another few changes. Pitch was very heavy and Nowlan Park will be far better this week. Walsh Park is tight and will always suit defenders.

Game will bring on the Cats better than 5 training sessions. C Dunford had article today saying they have 5 involved with Fitzgibbon teams and that they were battle hardened for this time of year.

KKCATDownUnder

Any team yet for Sunday ???

me89

KKCATDownUnder wrote: »

Any team yet for Sunday ???

Team will be announced tonight at about 9

tbiggertycome

From talking to one of the lads on Tuesday while they were dissapointed with last Sunday it didn't surprise them for a number of reasons.
1) The state of the pitch-muddy and long grass after they've been training on all weather pitches in Dunmore.
2) Waterford had at least 7 games behind them in terms of playing together and match fitness
3) The Kilkenny lads have only been training together since 12th of January where as most other teams have been together since at least the start of December and some have even been at it since early November.
4) They haven't hurled together in training yet and probably won't for another few weeks.

The first two he said, the second two I've picked up from other conversations with players over the last few weeks.

After seeing the game Waterford totally deserved to win however I think all the talk that they could have won by a lot more is quite misleading. While they were very dominant in defence they really offered very little going forward and were taking potshots which almost all went wide in the conditions and from the distances they were attempted. I think Waterford won by about the right amount given how they lined out and approached the game. They will struggle to beat Tipp and Galway playing like that.

We will be up against it with Tipp looking very strong but against a very poor Dublin. As an ould lad said to me Tipp are great to hurl with the wind at their back but how will they handle it in their face?

Deep down I think the Waterford game will have brought us on a lot and with the better pitch we will be a lot more competitive but if Tipp can hold their nerve they can take us. If we keep it tight which I think we will it'll be very close and we could sneak a win. However I'd be happy to just see the lads not get pushed off the ball.

babyjesus14

When was the last time Tipp beat us in a League match (group stages) in Nowlan Park? Was it the day Redser O'Grady roasted Noel Hickey? Which i reckon was '02 or '03. I know they beat us in a semi in '08.

Xenophile

Eddie is adding a little more cream to make Sunday's game a little more appetising/tasty or is it testy ?

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/hurling/...-to-beat-cats/

Realt Dearg Sec

Xenophile wrote: »

Eddie is adding a little more cream to make Sunday's game a little more appetising/tasty or is it testy ?

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/hurling/...-to-beat-cats/

I'd say Cody was only delighted when he read that!

citykat

Xenophile wrote: »

Eddie is adding a little more cream to make Sunday's game a little more appetising/tasty or is it testy ?

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/hurling/...-to-beat-cats/

Looks like Eddie needs a holiday...

mountgomery burns

tbiggertycome wrote: »

From talking to one of the lads on Tuesday while they were dissapointed with last Sunday it didn't surprise them for a number of reasons.
1) The state of the pitch-muddy and long grass after they've been training on all weather pitches in Dunmore.
2) Waterford had at least 7 games behind them in terms of playing together and match fitness
3) The Kilkenny lads have only been training together since 12th of January where as most other teams have been together since at least the start of December and some have even been at it since early November.
4) They haven't hurled together in training yet and probably won't for another few weeks.

After seeing the game Waterford totally deserved to win however I think all the talk that they could have won by a lot more is quite misleading. While they were very dominant in defence they really offered very little going forward and were taking potshots which almost all went wide in the conditions and from the distances they were attempted. I think Waterford won by about the right amount given how they lined out and approached the game. They will struggle to beat Tipp and Galway playing like that.

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Very skeptical on what your friend had to offer this conversation to be honest. Waterford are training in Carriganore where the surface would be a lot better than Walsh Park. I've heard a lot of talk about it suits a team playing defensively more, but sure when you've six backs who have to mark less forwards I don't exactly see how it differs greatly from any other game.

Waterford had at least 7 games behind them, where did he pull that out of? The lads that played Sunday had played 2 games prior to last weekend together.

Of course Kilkenny were undercooked, and in the merits of the game I think it was just important for Waterford to take the pressure off and keep the impetus of last year going.

One thing that does frustrate me a little bit is the bias towards attack people seem to have with regards talking about Waterford at least. Probably the dame people that were saying defense wins games in the mid naughties and that Waterford had none.

Let me put this to you, you say Waterford would struggle to beat Tipp or Galway playing the way they do, but do you think they'd win easily or something if they played another way? I think if it transpires that we are better than them then it is unlikely to be by much anyway so I think we would 'struggle', or more appropriately put find it difficult to beat them in any game.

But the important thing about how Waterford setup is that they are very difficult to beat. And when teams find you hard to beat, you always have a chance of winning.

pmy.murphy

We need to unearth forwards so Id like to see a bit of a shake up in that department this weekend. No use using Mark Kelly and Farrell as both were beyond useless last weekend and neither are going to be serious options this summer. Id like to see 2/3 of Kevin Kelly, Conor Martin, Chris Bolger, Michael Malone, James Maher, Conor O Shea are just the few names that come to mind. Maybe give young Cody another game too although Id like to see Rob Lennon given a shot at some stage during the league

Charlie69

Xenophile wrote: »

Eddie is adding a little more cream to make Sunday's game a little more appetising/tasty or is it testy ?

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/hurling/...-to-beat-cats/

I think Jackie Cahill must ring Eddie for a quote before every KK v Tipp encounter. There's certainly a sense of deja vu here anyway.

blackcard

Robert Lennon, Lester Ryan, James Maher and Kevin Kelly in for Kieran Joyce, Cillian Buckley, JonJo Farrell and Mark Kelly

robwen

Kilkenny Team v Tipperary - Allianz League Round 2

1 Eoin Murphy Glenmore
2 Paul Murphy Danesfort
3 Joey Holden Ballyhale Shamrocks
4 Shane Prendergast Clara
5 Padraig Walsh Tullaroan
6 Robert Lennon Bennettsbridge
7 Diarmuid Cody James Stephens
8 Lester Ryan Clara
9 Conor Fogarty Erins Own
10 Colin Fennelly Ballyhale Shamrocks
11 T J Reid Ballyhale Shamrocks
12 James Maher St Lachtains
13 Walter Walsh Tullogher Rosbercon
14 Kevin Kelly St Patricks
15 Richie Hogan Danesfort

16 Richie Reid Ballyhale Shamrocks
17 Jackie Tyrrell James Stephens
18 Kieran Joyce Rower Inistioge
19 Cillian Buckley Dicksboro
20 Brian Kennedy St Lachtains
21 Conor O Shea Clara
22 Jonjo Farrell Thomastown
23 Mark Kelly O'Loughlin Gaels
24 Conor Martin Emeralds
25 John Power Carrickshock
26 Michael Malone Mullinavat

robwen

1. Darren Gleeson – Portroe
2. Cathal Barrett – Holycross-Ballycahill
3. Tomás Hamill – Moyne-Templetuohy
4. Michael Cahill – Thurles Sarsfields
5. Brendan Maher (Capt.) – Borris Ileigh
6. James Barry – Upperchurch-Drombane
7. Padraic Maher – Thurles Sarsfields
8. Michael Breen – Ballina
9. Daire Quinn – Nenagh Éire Óg
10. Dan McCormack – Borris-Ileigh
11. Patrick Maher – Lorrha-Dorrha
12. Jason Forde – Silvermines
13. Noel McGrath – Loughmore-Castleiney
14. Conor Kenny – Borris-Ileigh
15. John McGrath – Loughmore-Castleiney

Subs:
16. Darragh Mooney – Éire Óg Anacarty
17. Dylan Fitzelle – Cashel King Cormacs
18. Joe Gallagher – Kiladangan
19. Ronan Maher – Thurles Sarsfields
20. John Meagher – Loughmore-Castleiney
21. Conor O’Brien – Éire Óg Anacarty
22. John O’Dwyer – Killenaule
23. Niall O’Meara – Kilruane MacDonaghs
24. Liam Ryan – Drom & Inch
25. Sean Ryan – Sean Treacy’s
26. Willie Ryan – Clonakenny

brookville

I think everyone is happy there's changes for the weekend especially in the fowards. James maher is a good talent and is good form with ucd but this will be a big step up for him.id expect tipp to shade this they look to be building a panel for the summer and have the bench which should get them over the line on sunday although hopefully our attack will be in better form

pmy.murphy

robwen wrote: »

Kilkenny Team v Tipperary - Allianz League Round 2

1 Eoin Murphy Glenmore
2 Paul Murphy Danesfort
3 Joey Holden Ballyhale Shamrocks
4 Shane Prendergast Clara
5 Padraig Walsh Tullaroan
6 Robert Lennon Bennettsbridge
7 Diarmuid Cody James Stephens
8 Lester Ryan Clara
9 Conor Fogarty Erins Own
10 Colin Fennelly Ballyhale Shamrocks
11 T J Reid Ballyhale Shamrocks
12 James Maher St Lachtains
13 Walter Walsh Tullogher Rosbercon
14 Kevin Kelly St Patricks
15 Richie Hogan Danesfort

16 Richie Reid Ballyhale Shamrocks
17 Jackie Tyrrell James Stephens
18 Kieran Joyce Rower Inistioge
19 Cillian Buckley Dicksboro
20 Brian Kennedy St Lachtains
21 Conor O Shea Clara
22 Jonjo Farrell Thomastown
23 Mark Kelly O'Loughlin Gaels
24 Conor Martin Emeralds
25 John Power Carrickshock
26 Michael Malone Mullinavat

Pretty happy with that team to be honest. Enough of a balance between changes and Senior campaigners. Think Brian has got it spot on this week

Cornerback1

pmy.murphy wrote: »

Pretty happy with that team to be honest. Enough of a balance between changes and Senior campaigners. Think Brian has got it spot on this week

Yeah, we were all wanting a few changes and that's what we got. Forwards needed a shake up with Maher and Kelly in. Up to them now as places are available.

Good surface in NP which will help also and there'll not be as many rucks. Tipp have a mixture of youth and no Seamie C either.

Should be a good game. Hard to know how good Tipp were last week in regards who they were playing. This Sunday will be a better guide.

Hopefully we can create a few goal chances this week.

citykat

robwen wrote: »

Kilkenny Team v Tipperary - Allianz League Round 2

1 Eoin Murphy Glenmore
2 Paul Murphy Danesfort
3 Joey Holden Ballyhale Shamrocks
4 Shane Prendergast Clara
5 Padraig Walsh Tullaroan
6 Robert Lennon Bennettsbridge
7 Diarmuid Cody James Stephens
8 Lester Ryan Clara
9 Conor Fogarty Erins Own
10 Colin Fennelly Ballyhale Shamrocks
11 T J Reid Ballyhale Shamrocks
12 James Maher St Lachtains
13 Walter Walsh Tullogher Rosbercon
14 Kevin Kelly St Patricks
15 Richie Hogan Danesfort

16 Richie Reid Ballyhale Shamrocks
17 Jackie Tyrrell James Stephens
18 Kieran Joyce Rower Inistioge
19 Cillian Buckley Dicksboro
20 Brian Kennedy St Lachtains
21 Conor O Shea Clara
22 Jonjo Farrell Thomastown
23 Mark Kelly O'Loughlin Gaels
24 Conor Martin Emeralds
25 John Power Carrickshock
26 Michael Malone Mullinavat

Given this is a home game and it's Tipp, I would class this game as a must win. Therefore how is the two time all star and one of our consistently outsanding players of the last couple of years, Cillian Buckley, on the bench? He's not injured. He's not a newbie. He's hardly to blame for the poor show last week.

kk1970

Cornerback1 wrote: »

Yeah, we were all wanting a few changes and that's what we got. Forwards needed a shake up with Maher and Kelly in. Up to them now as places are available.

Good surface in NP which will help also and there'll not be as many rucks. Tipp have a mixture of youth and no Seamie C either.

Should be a good game. Hard to know how good Tipp were last week in regards who they were playing. This Sunday will be a better guide.

Hopefully we can create a few goal chances this week.

Yeah, happy with that team. At least the younger lads are getting a chance , and the experience of tipp in nolan park will stand to them. We look to have more scoring forwards then last week.

PáircLife

Great to see young blood getting a chance, Maher and Kelly playing well with their respective Fitzgibbon squads so their place on this team is justified. Would also like to see Conor Martin and Conor O' Shea get a run, I'm sure they will before the league is out!

Huge test tomorrow though, from what I hear Tipp are flying it. Playing 15 v 15 intense training matches already! Wouldn't read too much into last Sat night though, that Dublin team was very poor.

There is something bothering me that nobody has brought up here for some reason and it's Diarmuid Cody. I'm not downing a player and never would but he's a good, strong hurler at best, nothing great. How does BC get away with this? How does Lyng, Dempsey and McGarry let him do this? He's not playing Fitzgibbon hurling although eligible with CIT. I know for a fact that no other panelist would get away with that. Starting against WF was nothing short of scandalous. Althought Diarmuid played well, that's not my point. There were players on form playing Fitzgibbon sitting on the bench and I just don't think it's fair. BC does what he wants though, always has, always will!!

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PáircLife wrote: »

There is something bothering me that nobody has brought up here for some reason!

Did you read the thread?

PáircLife

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Did you read the thread?

I did.
98% of posters here had no issue which is crazy! Some even saying the team against WF was picked on form. I know DC gets unfair chances, he will until he retires but I feel the fact he has chosen not to play Fitzgibbon is scandalous as I know senior panelists are forced to play this competition.. Believe it or not but not all panelists want to play Fitzgibbon are are forced as they know the consequences, no such consequences for DC. Instead, 'here you go take this no. 5 shirt'

pat 22

PáircLife wrote: »

I did.
98% of posters here had no issue which is crazy! Some even saying the team against WF was picked on form. I know DC gets unfair chances, he will until he retires but I feel the fact he has chosen not to play Fitzgibbon is scandalous as I know senior panelists are forced to play this competition.. Believe it or not but not all panelists want to play Fitzgibbon are are forced as they know the consequences, no such consequences for DC. Instead, 'here you go take this no. 5 shirt'

Get over it man!! I think Brian is entitled to pick him and from all accounts he had a fine game against waterford. I'm sure he'll be dropped if he doesn't step up.

That was a funny line you had in there, (how does BC get away with it ) who are you to question a man that's won 10 all Ireland?

PáircLife

pat 22 wrote: »

Get over it man!!

Very presumptuous !!

Anyway, I don't care what he has , he's picking his son ahead of better players and it's not fair! And that's not opinion, that is fact. He is getting better chances because of who he is and it shouldn't happen with a hurling stronghold like Kilkenny.

Cornerback1

robwen wrote: »

Kilkenny Team v Tipperary - Allianz League Round 2

1 Eoin Murphy Glenmore
2 Paul Murphy Danesfort
3 Joey Holden Ballyhale Shamrocks
4 Shane Prendergast Clara
5 Padraig Walsh Tullaroan
6 Robert Lennon Bennettsbridge
7 Diarmuid Cody James Stephens
8 Lester Ryan Clara
9 Conor Fogarty Erins Own
10 Colin Fennelly Ballyhale Shamrocks
11 T J Reid Ballyhale Shamrocks
12 James Maher St Lachtains
13 Walter Walsh Tullogher Rosbercon
14 Kevin Kelly St Patricks
15 Richie Hogan Danesfort

16 Richie Reid Ballyhale Shamrocks
17 Jackie Tyrrell James Stephens
18 Kieran Joyce Rower Inistioge
19 Cillian Buckley Dicksboro
20 Brian Kennedy St Lachtains
21 Conor O Shea Clara
22 Jonjo Farrell Thomastown
23 Mark Kelly O'Loughlin Gaels
24 Conor Martin Emeralds
25 John Power Carrickshock
26 Michael Malone Mullinavat

I wonder what way they'll settle after 10 minutes position wise?

Walter or TJ at full forward with KK in the corner?
Or Colin Fennelly in at full forward?

Glad to see Lester getting a run out at midfield.

All green helmets in the full back line - a commentator's nightmare!!!!

Realt Dearg Sec

Cornerback1 wrote: »

I wonder what way they'll settle after 10 minutes position wise?

Walter or TJ at full forward with KK in the corner?
Or Colin Fennelly in at full forward?

Glad to see Lester getting a run out at midfield.

All green helmets in the full back line - a commentator's nightmare!!!!

I was listening on kclr last week and it sounded like Paul Murphy was having an absolute stormer, he was doing the work of three men.

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I was listening on kclr last week and it sounded like Paul Murphy was having an absolute stormer, he was doing the work of three men.

Maybe this week, Joey will be doing the work of three men!!!!!!!