Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 2 **MOD NOTE POST 1***

brookville

http://www.newstalk.com/podcasts/Off_The_Ball/The_Panel_on_Off_the_Ball/189898/JJ_Taggy_and_Tommy_Walsh_on_Kilkenny_memories

Definitely worth a listen for anyone that missed it

Comerman

brookville wrote: »

Padraig walsh picked up a foot injury in training this week and is a race to be fit for june the 10th,management are confident he'll be ok but he'll miss the next two rounds of club.Hopefully he'll be ok he done well full back and we haven't many options for that position

http://www.kilkennypeople.ie/news/sport/247514/tullaroan-shocked-by-injury-to-kilkenny-star-walsh.html

brookville

Comerman wrote: »

http://www.kilkennypeople.ie/news/sport/247514/tullaroan-shocked-by-injury-to-kilkenny-star-walsh.html

Reports yesterday was 6 weeks but either way it's a huge concern for us in a position we're limited in but padraigs such an important player for us at 3 or 5 hopefully he'll recover but with a leg/foot injury training is restricted and any flaw will be exposed in championship.
If his not right he shouldn't be risked and management have learned from playing lads who aren't right.
It'll give someone else an opportunity in the backs but full back is such a difficult position. I doubt conor delaney or evan cody are ready yet so it looks like joey or joyce personally I'd go with joyce but we're definitely tight on backs and I've said it here before a few more defenders should of being brought in for a look
Hopefully no1 else gets injured over the next few weeks and the few injured lads return for the round of clubs next weekend.

Cornerback1

brookville wrote: »

Padraig walsh picked up a foot injury in training this week and is a race to be fit for june the 10th,management are confident he'll be ok but he'll miss the next two rounds of club.Hopefully he'll be ok he done well full back and we haven't many options for that position

Hopefully he'll be ready for action on the 10th. Just over a month away really. He's a player, like his elder sibling can play anywhere and still do a job!

Cornerback1

Only good thing I suppose is that the injury has happened 5+ weeks out from the Wexford game. If he's not right he shouldn't be risked. I'd go for K. Joyce also at No. 3.

brookville

If we were to pick a team now what would we like to see?granted 6 weeks is a long time injuries form etc.
Will he continue with buckley and fogarty swapping?obviously padraig could be out so we might need a new number 3,conor o shea had a good league at 4 he should hang onto the number 4 jersey.
Will any of the newcomers make the breakthrough?deegan could be tried at wing back his pacey,hard working but maybe not tidy enough yet.
Joe lyng back from injury could he be an option somewhere?pat lyng could slot in somewhere likewise Jason cleere but Id like to see buckley tried at especially if joyce has to go back to 3
Murphy
Murphy,joyce,shea
Cleere,buckley,deegan
Fogarty,lester
Tj,richie,wally
Blanchfield,colin,aylward
Hopefully kevin kelly gets back soon or a few lads come into a bit of form and put their hands up

PlayByTheRules

What ever happened to John Power? Has he dropped off the radar?

brookville wrote: »

If we were to pick a team now what would we like to see?granted 6 weeks is a long time injuries form etc.
Will he continue with buckley and fogarty swapping?obviously padraig could be out so we might need a new number 3,conor o shea had a good league at 4 he should hang onto the number 4 jersey.
Will any of the newcomers make the breakthrough?deegan could be tried at wing back his pacey,hard working but maybe not tidy enough yet.
Joe lyng back from injury could he be an option somewhere?pat lyng could slot in somewhere likewise Jason cleere but Id like to see buckley tried at especially if joyce has to go back to 3
Murphy
Murphy,joyce,shea
Cleere,buckley,deegan
Fogarty,lester
Tj,richie,wally
Blanchfield,colin,aylward
Hopefully kevin kelly gets back soon or a few lads come into a bit of form and put their hands up

randd1

Any word on any challenge matches played?

brookville

PlayByTheRules wrote: »

What ever happened to John Power? Has he dropped off the radar?

Cody likes him he definitely has the ability but seems to casual.He was injured during the league he played against the rower and scored a great point but wasn't really in the game

Village87

Heard a rumour in the club over the weekend that Cody is trying to call off last round of club matches weekend 20-21 May. Dont think the county board will allow it, there would be uproar in the Clubs especially with the good weather and players preparing for months for these 3 matches.

tbiggertycome

Village87 wrote: »

Heard a rumour in the club over the weekend that Cody is trying to call off last round of club matches weekend 20-21 May. Dont think the county board will allow it, there would be uproar in the Clubs especially with the good weather and players preparing for months for these 3 matches.

In fairness "The Club"/Da Village is not the most pro Cody spot in the county right now after the Coup in November. I would take most things you hear there about him with a large grain of salt.

Either way if somehow it was true I couldn't​ see the CB willing to acquiesce to that demand for a none knock out game in mid June plus it goes against everything Cody has ever done or said regarding the club game.

Village87

Ah yeah 100% tbiggertycome. I agree with what you say.

It would be very strange if they called it them off, Kilkenny could potentially lose in Leinster this year(Galway & Wexford are 2 tough matches) and could make the All Ireland semi final or finals through the back door(calling off club fixtures in July & August) so there could potentially be no club matches until September after the 20/21st May, leaving a congestion of fixtures in September already without calling off the matches on the 20/21st May. Crazy System for club players

brookville

tbiggertycome wrote: »

In fairness "The Club"/Da Village is not the most pro Cody spot in the county right now after the Coup in November. I would take most things you hear there about him with a large grain of salt.

Either way if somehow it was true I couldn't​ see the CB willing to acquiesce to that demand for a none knock out game in mid June plus it goes against everything Cody has ever done or said regarding the club game.

Cody is all for club games and the club fixtures have being done up a long time now I'd be surprised if he wanted them changed at this late stage. We all knew we had an important game on june 10th.the county lads will probably go back in next week then another round of clubs then 3 weeks to prepare for the Wexford game

Noddy33

brookville wrote: »

Noddy33 wrote: »

I am open to correction but I heard Michael Malone and John Walsh. I know Walsh didnt see any league action with seniors due to injury etc but believe he has been sent back to the U21's. Walshs form has slipped from some exceptional scoring form last year but time is definitely on his side. Malone just doesnt have enough hurling in him to make senior standard. He is a unit of man and typical of the physical features Cody loves but unfortunetly never made much impression in the few opportunities he got.Im not sure people even know if he a back/midfielder/forward let alone his best position.
There was about 7/8 Under 21 players in making up numbers for senior training during league and these have all been sent back to train with rest of U21 group and this makes sense given they out in championship in 5 weeks

Id say your right plus it makes sense that the u21s are all together training.im sure cody will know who's going well with the u21s or if someone puts their hand up during the summer they'll be back in.any update on kevin kelly,alyward or leahy?

Alyward due to tog out this weekend for Glenmore but dont see him starting more than likely will come off the bench. I wasnt at the last Ballyragget match but I thought I heard that Kevin Kelly had came on as sub in that came. I havnt heard anything about Leahy but at the time the hamstring injury looked sore so wouldnt expect him to see any action this weekend given that this is a reoccurring injury and the long term risk not worth it. I happend to be standing near Cody for this match and straight away when Leahy goes to ground holding the leg Cody slammed his match programme off his arm in frustration!!

brookville

Noddy33 wrote: »

Alyward due to tog out this weekend for Glenmore but dont see him starting more than likely will come off the bench. I wasnt at the last Ballyragget match but I thought I heard that Kevin Kelly had came on as sub in that came. I havnt heard anything about Leahy but at the time the hamstring injury looked sore so wouldnt expect him to see any action this weekend given that this is a reoccurring injury and the long term risk not worth it. I happend to be standing near Cody for this match and straight away when Leahy goes to ground holding the leg Cody slammed his match programme off his arm in frustration!!

I read somewhere the other day leahys injury isn't to bad he'll hopefully be back for the u21match at the end of the month.conor o shea should be back for clara this weekend

brookville

John knox has ruled padraig walsh out of June 10th.cody said last week he was confident he would make it back but i was told he was going to see a specialist yesterday.As some1 else said at least it's a bit out and gives management time to try have someone else ready.it's not worth risking him if his not right but hopefully he'll make a quicker recovery than expected I'm sure the doctors will do everything in their power to get him back if it's possible.
If his ruled out and someone else does well it would be great.

Hawkeye6

Noddy33 wrote: »

straight away when Leahy goes to ground holding the leg Cody slammed his match programme off his arm in frustration!!

I'm sure Leahy wasn't impressed getting a slap of a programme across the arm immediately after getting injured.:D

DickoHara

Hawkeye6 wrote: »

I'm sure Leahy wasn't impressed getting a slap of a programme across the arm immediately after getting injured.:D

He could have getting one hundred lines.

robwen

Shocks v Martin's moved from Fri evening to 2pm Sat same venue, due to bereavement

brookville

Brian cody said yesterday at the launch of the leinster championship that his confident padraig walsh will be fit for june 10th and ger alwyard will be back for Glenmore in the coming weeks so that's good news. He also said theres no time on mick fennelly

suirway

brookville wrote: »

Brian cody said yesterday at the launch of the leinster championship that his confident padraig walsh will be fit for june 10th and ger alwyard will be back for Glenmore in the coming weeks so that's good news. He also said theres no time on mick fennelly

Padraig Walsh seemingly has a broken bone in his heel, very hard to see how that will be right in time to allow him be fully fit with enough training behind him for Wexford in 5 weeks. Obviously Cody is going to say he will be fit at this stage.

tbiggertycome

Was talking to Padraigs next door neighbour today and she said they seem confident he'll be ok for the 10th of June.

unrealtime

She would say that, would'nt she.

Village87

He will be fine, Most players who are touch and go 5 weeks out always make it

Noddy33

brookville wrote: »

Brian cody said yesterday at the launch of the leinster championship that his confident padraig walsh will be fit for june 10th and ger alwyard will be back for Glenmore in the coming weeks so that's good news. He also said theres no time on mick fennelly

Alyward originally due to tog out tonight but Iv heard he be pulled from playing tonight now and the hope now is he plays the in the round of games in two weeks time instead. Will surely need to see some kind of action in that round if to have any hope of making the Wexford game. I expect to see Walsh back in time for June 10th

Mankbag

unrealtime wrote: »

She would say that, would'nt she.

Why would she? What a silly comment.

suirway

Lot of Interesting club games again the weekend with second rounds of League. Most of them very hard to call and could go either way.

Senior
Clara V Shamrocks - Shamrocks
James Stephens V Boro - James Stephens
Danesfort V Bridge - Bridge
St. Martins v Carrickshock - C'Shock
Rower V Erins Own - Rower
Mullinavat V O'Loughlins - O'Loughlins

Intermediate
Glenmore V Graigueballycallan - Glenmore
Fenians V Tullaroan - Fenians
Tullogher v Dunamaggin - Tullogher
St. Lachtains v Thomastown - Thomastown
Mooncoin v Young Irelands - Mooncoin
St. Patricks v Lisdowney - St. Patricks

brookville

Noddy33 wrote: »

Alyward originally due to tog out tonight but Iv heard he be pulled from playing tonight now and the hope now is he plays the in the round of games in two weeks time instead. Will surely need to see some kind of action in that round if to have any hope of making the Wexford game. I expect to see Walsh back in time for June 10th

Why isn't he involved this weekend or who's decision is that?any word on any of the other injured lads?kelly or leahy?

phkk

Senior
Clara V Shamrocks - Shamrocks
James Stephens V Boro - Boro
Danesfort V Bridge - Bridge
St. Martins v Carrickshock - C'Shock
Rower V Erins Own - Comer
Mullinavat V O'Loughlins - O'Loughlins

Intermediate
Glenmore V Graigueballycallan - G/Ballycallan
Fenians V Tullaroan - Tullaroan
Tullogher v Dunamaggin - Tullogher
St. Lachtains v Thomastown - Thomastown
Mooncoin v Young Irelands - Mooncoin
St. Patricks v Lisdowney - St. Patricks

phkk

Good fixtures in store, looking forward to seeing afew good hurling matches hopefully

blackcard

Deserved win by Clara against Ballyhale with a scoreline of 2-16 to 0-17. Ballyhale were highly dependent on TJ to win frees and convert them, he caught a lot of good ball. No one back from injury. Joey Holden had another decent game, seems to be more confident. Chris Bolger got four points from play for Clara and was good. Conor O'Shea started for Clara, did ok. Lester Ryan came on as a sub in the second half. Overall, Clara had a better balance and a greater spread of scorers.
Ger Aylward is not on the Glenmore panel this weekend but Kevin Kelly is listed to start at full forward.
Good wins for Tullaroan against Fenians and Graig Ballycallan against Glenmore

brookville

blackcard wrote: »

Deserved win by Clara against Ballyhale with a scoreline of 2-16 to 0-17. Ballyhale were highly dependent on TJ to win frees and convert them, he caught a lot of good ball. No one back from injury. Joey Holden had another decent game, seems to be more confident. Chris Bolger got four points from play for Clara and was good. Conor O'Shea started for Clara, did ok. Lester Ryan came on as a sub in the second half. Overall, Clara had a better balance and a greater spread of scorers.
Ger Aylward is not on the Glenmore panel this weekend but Kevin Kelly is listed to start at full forward.
Good wins for Tullaroan against Fenians and Graig Ballycallan against Glenmore

Agreed with above clara deserving winners over ballyhale who seem to be down a lot of regulars granted clara also missing a few.tj was carrying the can up front on his own and his fielding and touch was top drawer. Dissapointed with colin but joey was steady. Bolger was lively for clara
Just on the programme thing there was a few changes on both sides tonight especially clara so teams could be different again the matches are played.Someone else here said ger wasn't playing till round 3.Richie leahy not listed either I did c him at the match tonight hopefully himself alwyard and kelly get some gametime soon

dobbs2210

brookville wrote: »

Agreed with above clara deserving winners over ballyhale who seem to be down a lot of regulars granted clara also missing a few.tj was carrying the can up front on his own and his fielding and touch was top drawer. Dissapointed with colin but joey was steady. Bolger was lively for clara
Just on the programme thing there was a few changes on both sides tonight especially clara so teams could be different again the matches are played.Someone else here said ger wasn't playing till round 3.Richie leahy not listed either I did c him at the match tonight hopefully himself alwyard and kelly get some gametime soon

Attitude, effort and body language of Colin Fennelly was extremely poor tonight and wasn't much better in the previous round against Dicksboro.

citykat

dobbs2210 wrote: »

Attitude, effort and body language of Colin Fennelly was extremely poor tonight and wasn't much better in the previous round against Dicksboro.

Is he still recovering from injury?

citykat

Just in from Boro Rower. Lively game that could've gone either way. At half-time it looked like Comer were in the driving seat having played into the breeze and only 1 pt down. The Rower didn't lie down and Comer weren't as clinical as they should've been up front in the second half. For Comer Fogarty, Eoin Brennan and Conor Delaney stood out at the back. Aidan Moran, Michael Murphy and Daly were the pick up front. For Rower Joe Lyng gave a display of catching at LHB. Ryan at corner and Joyce were solid at the back. Joyce looks slimmer. Motm for me was Ciaran Ryan at MF. Pat Lyng was full of running and gave Fogarty plenty to think about. No sign of Richie Leahy.

barneygumble99

citykat wrote: »

Just in from Boro Rower. Lively game that could've gone either way. At half-time it looked like Comer were in the driving seat having played into the breeze and only 1 pt down. The Rower didn't lie down and Comer weren't as clinical as they should've been up front in the second half. For Comer Fogarty, Eoin Brennan and Conor Delaney stood out at the back. Aidan Moran, Michael Murphy and Daly were the pick up front. For Rower Joe Lyng gave a display of catching at LHB. Ryan at corner and Joyce were solid at the back. Joyce looks slimmer. Motm for me was Ciaran Ryan at MF. Pat Lyng was full of running and gave Fogarty plenty to think about. No sign of Richie Leahy.

A draw in that match wasn't it??

Carrickshock beat St Martins 0-18 to 1-14

brookville

citykat wrote: »

Just in from Boro Rower. Lively game that could've gone either way. At half-time it looked like Comer were in the driving seat having played into the breeze and only 1 pt down. The Rower didn't lie down and Comer weren't as clinical as they should've been up front in the second half. For Comer Fogarty, Eoin Brennan and Conor Delaney stood out at the back. Aidan Moran, Michael Murphy and Daly were the pick up front. For Rower Joe Lyng gave a display of catching at LHB. Ryan at corner and Joyce were solid at the back. Joyce looks slimmer. Motm for me was Ciaran Ryan at MF. Pat Lyng was full of running and gave Fogarty plenty to think about. No sign of Richie Leahy.

Thanks for the report..comer seemed to have improved a bit.how did ciarian wallace go for comer?I wasn't at the match but ciarian ryan finished very strong for the rower the last day against cshock he seems to be hurling well at the moment his move to mf seems to be working for them

jeff bingham

Was at the shocks Martins game. Shocks started terribly and were 4 or 5 down before their 1st score but they got back level to lead before half time. Looked like they would finish off Martins midway through 2nd half but mcgrath launched a long range free which broke in the square and mulhall(I think) finished off the ground. Fairly tit for tat last few mins for shocks to scrape it by a point. Muckalee definitely missed more chances during game.

I didn't have a program so not 100% percent sure of some of the names for Muckalee but Shore half forward looked OK. Tom Breen was dangerous in spells. Mulhall wasn't good at all and missed 2 handy scores at an important stage.maher still tipping away at corner forward wasn't bad Fullback (paddy Nolan?) Was solid.
For shocks Dalton solid as usual. Eanna martin had another good game as did Mark o dywer. Mick rice was top class some of the flicks and touches were outrageous. John power pulled the hamstring early in 1st half and limped off he's having no luck this year.

blackcard

John Power limped off after 15 minutes as Carrickshock beat Martin's by 0-18 to 1-14. It looked like it was going to be an easy victory for Shock as they took a 6 point lead in the second half but Martin's came back with a goal and had chances to draw or even win the game. Kevin Farrell scored 11 points including 3 from play. Michael Rice may be a bit slower but he made good use of the ball.

citykat

brookville wrote: »

how did ciarian wallace go for comer?

According to the programme he was no. 5. He wouldn't have caught my eye as much as those mentioned.

blackcard

suirway wrote: »

Lot of Interesting club games again the weekend with second rounds of League. Most of them very hard to call and could go either way.

Senior
Clara V Shamrocks - Shamrocks
James Stephens V Boro - James Stephens
Danesfort V Bridge - Bridge
St. Martins v Carrickshock - C'Shock
Rower V Erins Own - Rower
Mullinavat V O'Loughlins - O'Loughlins

Intermediate
Glenmore V Graigueballycallan - Glenmore
Fenians V Tullaroan - Fenians
Tullogher v Dunamaggin - Tullogher
St. Lachtains v Thomastown - Thomastown
Mooncoin v Young Irelands - Mooncoin
St. Patricks v Lisdowney - St. Patricks

Shows how tight things are. 1 out of 8 so far.

jeff bingham

I would have went with most of those predictions aswell. So tight in both grades. If shamrocks lose to the village next week there's a good chance they'll be in a relegation semi.

brookville

jeff bingham wrote: »

I would have went with most of those predictions aswell. So tight in both grades. If shamrocks lose to the village next week there's a good chance they'll be in a relegation semi.

The Shamrocks have very inexperienced players out so far they seem to be missing a good few they obviously have their eye on the bigger picture.good result from mullinavat against olg after a poor performance in the first round

jeff bingham

brookville wrote:

The Shamrocks have very inexperienced players out so far they seem to be missing a good few they obviously have their eye on the bigger picture.good result from mullinavat against olg after a poor performance in the first round

Even with a full team there backs aren't great. But clearly have quality forwards. They were always such a huge goal threat at all times but this year so far and even the times I seen them last year they seem to have lost that.

citykat

Boro steal it at the death to win. Village only have themselves to blame having squandered several goal chances during the game. They lead for practically the whole game and looked comfortable. With probably their only goal chance of the game Ollie Walsh kicked it to the net late on. That score spurred them on to an unlikely looking victory. Buckley, Walsh, Cody were strong at the back and MF for the Boro. Up front it was subs Gough and Flynn who augmented a line lead by Stapleton.
For the Village Scanlon was my Motm. Very quick and eager to take on the Boro defence at every opportunity. Gave Buckley plenty of trouble in the second half. Jackie and Larks lead their lines as usual. Special mention to Brassil who came on and scored three quickfire pts.

Noddy33

brookville wrote: »

Noddy33 wrote: »

Alyward originally due to tog out tonight but Iv heard he be pulled from playing tonight now and the hope now is he plays the in the round of games in two weeks time instead. Will surely need to see some kind of action in that round if to have any hope of making the Wexford game. I expect to see Walsh back in time for June 10th

Why isn't he involved this weekend or who's decision is that?any word on any of the other injured lads?kelly or leahy?

It was Cody decisions to pull the plug on Aylward and Kelly from this weekends action which in my opinion is quite hard on the clubs.The two lads along with Mick Fennelly and Darren Mullen did a fitness training session with Dempsey on Saturday morning

brookville

Noddy33 wrote: »

It was Cody decisions to pull the plug on Aylward and Kelly from this weekends action which in my opinion is quite hard on the clubs.The two lads along with Mick Fennelly and Darren Mullen did a fitness training session with Dempsey on Saturday morning

Any idea how it went?is darren mullen in with the seniors?I was thinking it was codys decision when he said during the week that ger will hopefully see gametime in round 3.I presume the players are back with the county next week

Noddy33

brookville wrote: »

Noddy33 wrote: »

It was Cody decisions to pull the plug on Aylward and Kelly from this weekends action which in my opinion is quite hard on the clubs.The two lads along with Mick Fennelly and Darren Mullen did a fitness training session with Dempsey on Saturday morning

Any idea how it went?is darren mullen in with the seniors?I was thinking it was codys decision when he said during the week that ger will hopefully see gametime in round 3.I presume the players are back with the county next week

By all accounts it was a very tough running session.Mullen not on senior panel as such but has been injured last while and with U21's out in 3 weeks time I believe that the reason why he was in doing the session. He and Eoin Reid will be available next day for Ballyhale. Yes players back training with county tonight and as far as I know Kelly and Aylward to play for clubs in the next round

Village87

Was in at the Danesfort v Bennetsbridge game yesterday. Goals proved the decisive factor yesterday. Danesfort coudnt get back in the game yesterday after conceding 3 goals. Paul Murphy was poor again yesterday, was hoping to see an improvement in form from him. Other county players did ok

droppingball

Thoughts on how few of county players played at the weekend:

TJ hurled well, touch was top class as always, ballyhale were very reliant on him

Joey looked more comfortable at centre back and half back and hurled well

Colin Fennelly seemed to be floating around and wasn't massively involved

Lester came on and played well, worked hard as always and picked off a lovely score

Conor o Shea hurled half back and was solid without tearing it up

Shane Pender was also solid and was marking tj for most of game

Jonjo Farrell was double marked by Freshford but still hurled well, scored an excellent goal but if striking was better could have scored about 2-5

James Maher looked Of the pace, ran into contact a lot and got turned over a good bit, seems selfish on the ball

Cillian Buckley had a tough battle with Larkin in the first half and Luke scanlon in the second but probably broke even overall. Scanlon caused a good few problems travelling down the middle.

Evan Cody did OK but will need to improve to get in the shake up

Richie Hogan got some great scores but overall Enda Morrissey won that battle for me, is he in the senior panel if not he should be as he was very impressive.

Jason cleere looks great on the ball and uses it extremely well just hope he can command the game more.

Liam Blanchfield didn't get on much ball and had little influence

Rob Lennon seemed sharper coming out to the ball than I had seen him before but I would be worried about him being turned against top class full forwards.

Paul Murphy first touch seemed very poor and that is not the first time lately.

Other notable mentions from games I attended for Liam Ryan from Clara, John Donnelly for ttown, Simon Rafter from freshford, Cathal o Neill second half for danesfort who all hurled well.