Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 2 **MOD NOTE POST 1***

dzer2

Sky's first game is the Dublin game in football

brookville

They haven't got saturday night games but They have the rights to our match and the limerick/clare match aswell.rte showing the dublin/galway match next week.
Richie hogan didn't tog tonight anyone know the story there?

blackcard

Sorry with no more matches before the Wexford game and presuming Padraig Walsh is out, I would go with the following team.
Murphy, Murphy, Holden, O'Shea, Cleere, Joyce, Buckley, Fennelly, Fogarty, Walsh,Hogan, Reid, Aylward, Fennelly,
Blanchfield.

blackcard

So with no more matches before the Wexford game and presuming Padraig Walsh is out, I would go with the following team.
Murphy, Murphy, Holden, O'Shea, Cleere, Joyce, Buckley, Fennelly, Fogarty, Walsh,Hogan, Reid, Aylward, Fennelly,
Blanchfield.

brookville

blackcard wrote: »

So with no more matches before the Wexford game and presuming Padraig Walsh is out, I would go with the following team.
Murphy, Murphy, Holden, O'Shea, Cleere, Joyce, Buckley, Fennelly, Fogarty, Walsh,Hogan, Reid, Aylward, Fennelly,
Blanchfield.

Probably won't be a million miles from the team but Ive heard different reports over the weekend bout padraig walsh I think management are very hopefull he'll be ok but weather or not he'll be fit enough we won't know for a few weeks but I'm sure the management have a plan B in place if his not ready.It'd be interesting to know who are the 2 full backs in training

citykat

Wasn't at the game but heard Richie didn't play tonight. Hamstring...

citykat

blackcard wrote: »

So with no more matches before the Wexford game and presuming Padraig Walsh is out, I would go with the following team.
Murphy, Murphy, Holden, O'Shea, Cleere, Joyce, Buckley, Fennelly, Fogarty, Walsh,Hogan, Reid, Aylward, Fennelly,
Blanchfield.

Blanchfields form at the moment doesnt justify selection imo. Nicky Cleere has been far better for the bridge so far this year.

Realt Dearg Sec

Is Holden getting on by today's performance? Honest question, wasn't​ there but heard he was roasted.

usualstripes

Tullogher had an easy win v the fenians. Fenians with 17 or 18 young subs but a poor reflection on fenians teams of old. Walter hurled v well for tullogher without actually scoring. Played very well in deep position. Pat Hartley outstanding. Conor hennessy and cian o Donohoe also v good for the southerners

Village87

usualstripes wrote: »

Tullogher had an easy win v the fenians. Fenians with 17 or 18 young subs but a poor reflection on fenians teams of old. Walter hurled v well for tullogher without actually scoring. Played very well in deep position. Pat Hartley outstanding. Conor hennessy and cian o Donohoe also v good for the southerners[/QUOTE

Shamrocks looked very good yesterday. After a promising start for us we are very under pressure now. Kilkenny is very competitive .

Seen 3 Tullogher matches the last few years. Pat Hartley is the best back in the country, but at the moment the standard is after dropping

usualstripes

Village87 wrote: »

usualstripes wrote: »

Tullogher had an easy win v the fenians. Fenians with 17 or 18 young subs but a poor reflection on fenians teams of old. Walter hurled v well for tullogher without actually scoring. Played very well in deep position. Pat Hartley outstanding. Conor hennessy and cian o Donohoe also v good for the southerners[/QUOTE

Shamrocks looked very good yesterday. After a promising start for us we are very under pressure now. Kilkenny is very competitive .

Seen 3 Tullogher matches the last few years. Pat Hartley is the best back in the country, but at the moment the standard is after dropping

Unfortunately for pat when he got his chance with kilkenny he was played midfield as we had a super half back line. He is an outstanding hurler as a defender

droppingball

Was at ballyragget v thomastown game, competitive game. Ballyragget seemed to be the better hurlers but they were out fought and ended up losing a battle.

Ballyragget led 6 point to 1 after about 10 minutes but fell in and out of the game and thomastowns bench and goals clinched this one. Ballyragget scored a goal late on and nearly scored another with last play of the game but had to settle for a point and in turn a one point loss.

They are sharp up front with Kevin Kelly hurling well but he missed a few frees and chances that could have won the game.

For thomastown John Donnelly ran the show and is a real outlet on the puckouts, Jonjo Farrell was quiet but worked very hard and won some vital possession at centre forward and laid it off.

Robbie Donnelly scored 3 goals from play and was excellent on the frees while Joe Brennan hurled well for ballyragget. Ballyragget seemed to have done a lot of gym work and seem more physical than previously.

Ballyragget will be there or thereabouts but they need a few leaders to step it up. Thomastown worked hard and have a few nice hurlers and a strong bench.

minty81

citykat wrote: »

Shamrocks get their first win with a well deserved win against the Village. Shamrocks were boosted by the return of Mick Fennelly and two of the Mullen clan. Fennelly looked fit and moving normally. Barring injury he'll be playing against Wexford. The usual suspects were prominent for both teams. Colin Fennelly caused mayhem for the Village on the edge of the square particularly in the first half when the Shamrocks were playing into the breeze and strong (at times) sun. TJ was his usual clever self. Richie Reid was dominant at CB. Joey had a good tussle with Walton at FB with both breaking even. Adrian Mullen lined out in the corner. Grew into the game. Got some nice scores and set up the third goal.
Jackie wasn't as dominant as in the previous games. Larks got some nice scores off breaking ball and was always there in support. Scanlon got a goal and had a good tussle Fennelly in MF. Talk of Shamrocks demise is premature on this afternoons showing.

I didn't think Joey and Walton came close to breaking even. Walton well on top and a few times Joey was coming out with ball he coughed up possession very easily

unrealtime

Like Blackcards posted team as probably the best we have right now save that I think Walsh will be there instead of Cleere. Joey is too loose but given that Wexford will name a FF (McDonald) but play without one, he will be without any pressure and should do fine. Later on I think we may need another FB though.

brookville

Kk u17s look to be through to the leinster final 9 points up with 7 mins remaining it was very close in the 1st half against the wind but we seemed to pull away in the 2nd half.Well done to all involved

dubcat51

Ciaran brennan played for irish q6s v northern ireland today.

brookville

dubcat51 wrote: »

Ciaran brennan played for irish q6s v northern ireland today.

When is the leinster final and is he expected to be back or has he committed to soccer for the summer?

unrealtime

Would not worry as Irish under age teams generally fail to qualify for anything

dubcat51

No date set yet.u16 tournament on just for this week so he should be available (but will they pick him now?)

dastardly00

If there was any tiny little bit of complacency in the minds of the senior players or management in the build-up to this Wexford match, then yesterday should have completely eradicated it.

kk.man

dastardly00 wrote: »

If there was any tiny little bit of complacency in the minds of the senior players or management in the build-up to this Wexford match, then yesterday should have completely eradicated it.

Tipp forwards never defended the ball...Cork backs were able to give pin point passes...don't know what all the fuss is about it being a great game.

brookville

dastardly00 wrote: »

If there was any tiny little bit of complacency in the minds of the senior players or management in the build-up to this Wexford match, then yesterday should have completely eradicated it.

http://www.kilkennypeople.ie/news/sport/251065/things-look-up-for-kilkenny-as-fennellys-and-aylward-return.html

We've had our warning I don't think we'll be complacent its great to be getting the few injured lads back they'll u21 match Wednesday week could give us a extra players or two for the senior panel on the 10th if they hurl well

danganabu

kk.man wrote: »

Tipp forwards never defended the ball...Cork backs were able to give pin point passes...don't know what all the fuss is about it being a great game.

Agree completely and it is in no way sour grapes or being a bad looser but while it may have been exciting and great viewing for the neutral the standard of hurling was very poor, it was non-existant defending from both teams and it tuned into a shoot out with the team with more pace winning.

We all agree that the sweeper is a blight on the game and something that nobody wants but jaysus their has to be a balance, a happy medium if you like.

unrealtime

Tipp are not great and currently are beatable by Galway Waterford and Cork. If we had a good fullback and another good scoring forward we'd beat them all but we haven't and there it is. We may reach the semis with what we have if we get the breaks.

kk.man

unrealtime wrote: »

Tipp are not great and currently are beatable by Galway Waterford and Cork. If we had a good fullback and another good scoring forward we'd beat them all but we haven't and there it is. We may reach the semis with what we have if we get the breaks.

+1

danganabu

unrealtime wrote: »

Tipp are not great and currently are beatable by Galway Waterford and Cork. If we had a good fullback and another good scoring forward we'd beat them all but we haven't and there it is. We may reach the semis with what we have if we get the breaks.

If me Aunty had balls......

unrealtime

If Tipp had balls

usualstripes

Any news on how leahy is now. I know he was rested last weekend. Will aylward start ahead of him in wexford park? I know it was said here also that cody is not ruling out padraig but he must be a serious doubt if he is still in the boot?

Realt Dearg Sec

usualstripes wrote: »

Any news on how leahy is now. I know he was rested last weekend. Will aylward start ahead of him in wexford park? I know it was said here also that cody is not ruling out padraig but he must be a serious doubt if he is still in the boot?

Everyone I've talked to from home (none of them particularly close to P Walsh though, so this isn't some kind of confirmation of anything) seems to be saying he's out for the Wexford match. Be interesting to see how they line up without him, if that's true. There's no good answer, really.

usualstripes

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Everyone I've talked to from home (none of them particularly close to P Walsh though, so this isn't some kind of confirmation of anything) seems to be saying he's out for the Wexford match. Be interesting to see how they line up without him, if that's true. There's no good answer, really.

I can't see him starting v wexford. I hope I am wrong and would love to see him fit. We need to be very agressive on the 10th. The possible or probable inclusion of mick fennelly and ger aylward will hopefully give us a few options we didn't have so far this year. A fit leahy will also be an option off the bench. Any news on how the panel is going? Is it being cut back shortly? Or is anyone putting their hands up for inclusion that hadn't been already?

blackcard

usualstripes wrote: »

Any news on how leahy is now. I know he was rested last weekend. Will aylward start ahead of him in wexford park? I know it was said here also that cody is not ruling out padraig but he must be a serious doubt if he is still in the boot?

I think Aylward will start, he looked good against Tullaroan. I would be amazed if Padraig plays. I expect Joey Holden will be full back.

brookville

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Everyone I've talked to from home (none of them particularly close to P Walsh though, so this isn't some kind of confirmation of anything) seems to be saying he's out for the Wexford match. Be interesting to see how they line up without him, if that's true. There's no good answer, really.

Yeah its hard to know with padraig his to see a specialist this week so maybe we'll know more then if his out will he put joey there?i doubt it but what are our options or who's being training at 3?there's still positions up for grabs and fennelly and alyward will most likely start kevin kelly will also be a help to the panel maybe he could play further out the field.If walsh is out id have joyce at 3 and cleere at six with fogarty and buckley on the wings,lester and fennelly mf.4 of the 6 forwards should pick themselves and alyward will be a help up front with the last spot between blanchfield,kelly,johnjo etc

brookville

usualstripes wrote: »

I can't see him starting v wexford. I hope I am wrong and would love to see him fit. We need to be very agressive on the 10th. The possible or probable inclusion of mick fennelly and ger aylward will hopefully give us a few options we didn't have so far this year. A fit leahy will also be an option off the bench. Any news on how the panel is going? Is it being cut back shortly? Or is anyone putting their hands up for inclusion that hadn't been already?

It was said here michael malone was dropped but I imagine a few of the fringe u21 players like morrissey,alan murphy are cut to concentrate on the u21.the match next week is absolutely huge if the likes of darren mullen,john walsh,luke scanlon or conor delaney go well they'll surely put there hand up for inclusion.
Anyone any idea the u21 team will be like?Andy gaffney scored 4 goals against danesfort last weekend,cian o donoghue has being good for tullogher likewise kevin farrell for cshock

Cornerback1

Will Mick Fennelly start in the Leinster game? If so, could he be an option at No. 6? With his experience and just protecting the 'D' instead of being flat out at mid-field.

red_diesel

Conor Delaney has been immense for Comer in the first 3 games. Realistic option at 3 for the Wexford game.

DickoHara

dastardly00 wrote: »

If there was any tiny little bit of complacency in the minds of the senior players or management in the build-up to this Wexford match, then yesterday should have completely eradicated it.

I wouldn't think that especially after the league quarter final going down there to play them in Wexford park home crowd.

Comerman

Has the U21 match been called off tomorrow night? Can't see it on the fixtures now.

dzer2

Comerman wrote: »

Has the U21 match been called off tomorrow night? Can't see it on the fixtures now.

Is it not on the 31st

brookville

red_diesel wrote: »

Conor Delaney has been immense for Comer in the first 3 games. Realistic option at 3 for the Wexford game.

I really like this lad but don't think he'll be threw in full back he could be a option in a few years

Charlie69

red_diesel wrote: »

Conor Delaney has been immense for Comer in the first 3 games. Realistic option at 3 for the Wexford game.

I was at the Comer match and was very impressed with Conor Delaney... very intelligent full back for a young fella.

I also thought Conor Fogarty was immense at number six and could certainly do a job there for the County.

Does anyone know how old the young Feehan chap playing in midfield for Comer is???, He scored four points from play and had a fantastic game in general but I notice he's not on the U21 panel.

dzer2

Charlie69 wrote: »

I was at the Comer match and was very impressed with Conor Delaney... very intelligent full back for a young fella.

I also thought Conor Fogarty was immense at number six and could certainly do a job there for the County.

Does anyone know how old the young Feehan chap playing in midfield for Comer is???, He scored four points from play and had a fantastic game in general but I notice he's not on the U21 panel.

A lad with one leg would have looked good in that match

Nedflanders02

Charlie69 wrote: »

I was at the Comer match and was very impressed with Conor Delaney... very intelligent full back for a young fella.

I also thought Conor Fogarty was immense at number six and could certainly do a job there for the County.

Does anyone know how old the young Feehan chap playing in midfield for Comer is???, He scored four points from play and had a fantastic game in general but I notice he's not on the U21 panel.

Seen the first 2 Comer games and Delaney was excellent, he did a great man marking job on John Walsh in the first game, think he's a great prospect, it's a pity he didn't get a run during the league but could be a good option at corner back.

I think Feehan was minor last year but it possibly could have been the year before definitely still U-21 this year

Village87

red_diesel wrote: »

Conor Delaney has been immense for Comer in the first 3 games. Realistic option at 3 for the Wexford game.

Is he even on the Senior panel, havnt heard much about him during the league.

Whatever about the senior, massive under 21 game next week?

How are Kilkenny fixed, looking forward to Luke playing

brookville

Village87 wrote: »

Is he even on the Senior panel, havnt heard much about him during the league.

Whatever about the senior, massive under 21 game next week?

How are Kilkenny fixed, looking forward to Luke playing

As someone else said I wouldn't be that suprised to c him close to the team for the Wexford game I think his an excellent prospect
He was on the panel for some league games but think he got injured near the end
Haven't heard much bout the 21s but it's nearly as big as the senior game there's some exciting players on our team and a few with senior experience.hopefully leahy will be back

dastardly00

Village87 wrote: »

Is he even on the Senior panel, havnt heard much about him during the league.

He was an unused sub for the Clare, Cork and Tipp League matches

citykat

red_diesel wrote: »

Conor Delaney has been immense for Comer in the first 3 games. Realistic option at 3 for the Wexford game.

+1. Haven't seen much of him but along with Fogarty he was the main man against the Rower.

Village87

Charlie69 wrote: »

I was at the Comer match and was very impressed with Conor Delaney... very intelligent full back for a young fella.

I also thought Conor Fogarty was immense at number six and could certainly do a job there for the County.

Does anyone know how old the young Feehan chap playing in midfield for Comer is???, He scored four points from play and had a fantastic game in general but I notice he's not on the U21 panel.

Fogarty was centre back last year v Waterford and was cleaned by Gleeson, didnt have the aerial presence or speed to match him there. not his biggest fan, better off as a workhorse around the middle

Topcat32

Village87 wrote: »

Fogarty was centre back last year v Waterford and was cleaned by Gleeson, didnt have the aerial presence or speed to match him there. not his biggest fan, better off as a workhorse around the middle

Your not his biggest fan? Would never have guessed that!!

dastardly00

Village87 wrote: »

Fogarty was centre back last year v Waterford and was cleaned by Gleeson, didnt have the aerial presence or speed to match him there. not his biggest fan, better off as a workhorse around the middle

I personally don't think centre-back is Fogarty's best position for the senior inter-county team... But in his defence, Gleeson was bloody unplayable that day. No matter who we had marking him, he would have been plucking those balls out of the air for fun. And Gleeson out ran a lot more our players than just Fogarty that day.

brookville

dastardly00 wrote: »

I personally don't think centre-back is Fogarty's best position for the senior inter-county team... But in his defence, Gleeson was bloody unplayable that day. No matter who we had marking him, he would have been plucking those balls out of the air for fun. And Gleeson out ran a lot more our players than just Fogarty that day.

+1 remember he out fetched tj a few times which is a very hard thing to do.I don't get the negative criticism of Fogarty his being very good since his move out from corner back.wasn't as good last year as the previous 2 years but a very important player for us.he was good in the league against cork and tipp and a loss against wexford granted he was poor the 1st day against waterford.