Leicester City vs Manchester United Match Thread 28/11/15 17.30 Sky Sports.

We should have won that....

ScummyMan

gosplan wrote: »

Dear Jesus. After 10 good games or so with a very defensive midfielder in front of him?

It's been nearly a year now. Who might this very good defensive midfielder be?

gosplan

gosplan wrote: »

Dear Jesus. After 10 good games or so with a very defensive midfielder in front of him?

Lol try 12+ months before you start raving with your ten games

ankles

1st v 2nd. Sheesh :rolleyes:

Nalz

M!Ck^ wrote: »

We should have won that....

Still crap to watch and won't win anything playing like that

MightyMandarin

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Chris smalling the best defender in the league and arguably the best in Europe

I'll bite..

Smalling is not nearly the best defender in the league. LvG's tactics and having 2 DM's in front and a world class GK behind makes his job easier than most other CB's.

City's record with vs without Kompany makes me believe he is the best in the PL.

niallo27

M!Ck^ wrote: »

We should have won that....

Possibly but didnt create enough for me to deserve to win it. Leicester created one great chance in the second half.

Canadel

gosplan wrote: »

Dear Jesus. After 10 good games or so with a very defensive midfielder in front of him?

One can understand the sentiment as Smalling as been one of the few reasons for Utd fans to show any excitement this season.

Johner

Enjoyable game and a fair result.

Nib

Lovren best CB in the league and possibly Europe IMO.

Nalz

gosplan wrote: »

Dear Jesus. After 10 good games or so with a very defensive midfielder in front of him?

He's played 18 games this season and was v solid last season. I'd say that's what Jesus would reply to you with

MightyMandarin

MightyMandarin wrote: »

I'll bite..

Smalling is not nearly the best defender in the league. LvG's tactics and having 2 DM's in front and a world class GK behind makes his job easier than most other CB's.

City's record with vs without Kompany makes me believe he is the best in the PL.

You will bite at what?

He's the best in the league for well over the last year

Suddenly other players are responsible for his performances

His reading of the game has been exceptional. Nothing got to do with who plays in front of him

Polo_Mint

M!Ck^ wrote: »

You will bite at what?

He's the best in the league for well over the last year

Suddenly other players are responsible for his performances

His reading of the game has been exceptional. Nothing got to do with who plays in front of him

gosplan

ScummyMan wrote: »

It's been nearly a year now. Who might this very good defensive midfielder be?

Autocorrect, should have been 'defensive midfield'

Best in Europe is an astonishingly biased call. Anyone impartial with a clue laughs right there.

niallo27

niallo27 wrote: »

Possibly but didnt create enough for me to deserve to win it. Leicester created one great chance in the second half.

Rooney missed a simple header
And Memphis had a great chance but ****ed it up with his first touch

gosplan

gosplan wrote: »

Autocorrect, should have been 'defensive midfield'

Best in Europe is an astonishingly biased call. Anyone impartial with a clue laughs right there.

Bulssshiiittt

I said arguably

Johner

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Rooney missed a simple header
And Memphis had a great chance but ****ed it up with his first touch

And Ulloa missed the best chance of them all. United didn't create enough to win that game. Draw was fair.

I agree Smalling is the best in the league by far at the moment. Playing world class stuff.

niallo27

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Rooney missed a simple header
And Memphis had a great chance but ****ed it up with his first touch

Leicester created a few openings in the first half too. Draw was a fair result for me. Utd the better team probably but creating very little.

gosplan

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Bulssshiiittt

I said arguably

Yes because saying 'arguably best in Europe' is so different from saying 'best in Europe'. Who'd be doing the arguing out of curiosity? Smalling's mam?

gosplan

gosplan wrote: »

Yes because saying 'arguably best in Europe' is so different from saying 'best in Europe'. Who'd be doing the arguing out of curiosity?

Gosplan

So are still sticking to your 10 games theory?

And the mystical mind defender telling smalling what to do

oh yea sorry his name is Mike and it's his alter ego

Faugheen

Can't wait for everyone to go on about Martin Tyler's 'bias' towards Jamie Vardy after their embarrassing display regarding Martial.

Oh wait, it won't happen, will it?

SlickRic

Utd owned the ball.

I still never felt a goal was coming.

You can't just keep the ball endlessly, give it wide, pit in crosses to two people against 6, and say you were dominant and deserved to win.

Yet I suspect that's exactly what LVG thinks.

M!Ck^

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Chris smalling the best defender in the league and arguably the best in Europe

gosplan

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Gosplan

So are still sticking to your 10 games theory?

And the mystical mind defender telling smalling what to do

oh yea sorry his name is Mike and it's his alter ego

I'm still sticking to my 'this is ridiculously bias claptrap' theory. Discussing it with you would be a massive waste of time

Last time I had this conversation on this thread, it was when Phil Jones was being called 'the best young defender in the world' after a few dozen game for Blackburn - that was better than Hummels and Thiago Silva.

If that was pointless, so is this.

The equivalent is me saying Kos is best in league and Europe. Probably even more merit, but I know that's stretching my love of Arsenal a bit.

xabi

M!Ck^ wrote: »

We should have won that....

Bull

PhlegmyMoses

gosplan wrote: »

I'm still sticking to my 'this is ridiculously bias claptrap' theory. Discussing it with you would be a massive waste of time

Last time I had this conversation on this thread, it was when Phil Jones was being called 'the best young defender in the world' after a few dozen game for Blackburn - that was better than Hummels and Thiago Silva.

If that was pointless, so is this.

The equivalent is me saying Kos is best in league and Europe. Probably even more merit, but I know that's stretching my love of Arsenal a bit.

Smalling has been unbelievably good for the last 12 months. If you don't like the term used, we can go with one of the most in-form defenders in Europe. But we are basically all just really happy that a guy with so much talent but was a perpetual sick note has managed to get his **** together. You'll understand if Wilshere ever manages it

niallo27

Faugheen wrote: »

Can't wait for everyone to go on about Martin Tyler's 'bias' towards Jamie Vardy after their embarrassing display regarding Martial.

Oh wait, it won't happen, will it?

He just broke a premier league record, of course he is going to get excited. The Martial reaction was just a bit odd. It was like he just scored a last minute winner.

PhlegmyMoses

niallo27 wrote: »

He just broke a premier league record, of course he is going to get excited. The Martial reaction was just a bit odd. It was like he just scored a last minute winner.

Again, it is all about context and narratives, rather than bias. Tyler loves a narrative. Accept it.

gosplan

gosplan wrote: »

I'm still sticking to my 'this is ridiculously bias claptrap' theory. Discussing it with you would be a massive waste of time

Last time I had this conversation on this thread, it was when Phil Jones was being called 'the best young defender in the world' after a few dozen game for Blackburn - that was better than Hummels and Thiago Silva.

If that was pointless, so is this.

The equivalent is me saying Kos is best in league and Europe. Probably even more merit, but I know that's stretching my love of Arsenal a bit.

Good for you then
And vice versa discussing it with you and your 10+ games ****e

Nalz

niallo27 wrote: »

He just broke a premier league record, of course he is going to get excited. The Martial reaction was just a bit odd. It was like he just scored a last minute winner.

Well he was the new teenage sensation that cost a lot of money, who most people heard little OT nothing about, who came on and scored a good goal in a bit game, arguably the biggest rivalry in England. Reaction was acceptable imo.

StringerBell

More points dropped waheey!

Did Vardy always have this pace pre Leicester City?

For a 28 year old he runs like a 19 year old, unreal

Faugheen

niallo27 wrote: »

He just broke a premier league record, of course he is going to get excited. The Martial reaction was just a bit odd. It was like he just scored a last minute winner.

Yeah, but Martial wasn't well known, cost a lot of money, came on, beat a couple of players and scored on his debut, against Liverpool at Old Trafford nonetheless.

People were calling for Tyler to be sacked over that.

Once again, it's one rule for some, one for others, and your post has just demonstrated that.

I've nothing against his reaction to Vardy btw, just like nobody else does, but when you gauge how people jumped on his back for 'bias' in the past, and ignore it this time, it shows that it's just a United thing.

keeponhurling

Is the referee allowed to blow up early, when one team was in the attack ?
Seemed quite odd to me.

CSF

keeponhurling wrote: »

Is the referee allowed to blow up early, when one team was in the attack ?
Seemed quite odd to me.

Well they're not allowed blow up early, they're supposed to play 90 minutes, accounting for stoppages or whatever so it's obviously more than 90, but the fact that a team is attacking doesn't come into it. That is a rule in rugby, not football.

monkey9

Faugheen wrote: »

Yeah, but Martial wasn't well known, cost a lot of money, came on, beat a couple of players and scored on his debut, against Liverpool at Old Trafford nonetheless.

People were calling for Tyler to be sacked over that.

Once again, it's one rule for some, one for others, and your post has just demonstrated that.

I've nothing against his reaction to Vardy btw, just like nobody else does, but when you gauge how people jumped on his back for 'bias' in the past, and ignore it this time, it shows that it's just a United thing.

Strange little hang up you've got going on here, but why would people 'ignore it this time'. Are people meant to complain every time Tyler goes above a certain decible when commentating on a goal.

Everybody was waiting for that moment. It's an historical Premier League goal.

Flint Fredstone

monkey9 wrote: »

Strange little hang up you've got going on here, but why would people 'ignore it this time'. Are people meant to complain every time Tyler goes above a certain decible when commentating on a goal.

Everybody was waiting for that moment. It's an historical Premier League goal.

The only thing strange was the whinging little babies crying over it when it was Martial.

monkey9

Flint Fredstone wrote: »

The only thing strange was the whinging little babies crying over it when it was Martial.

Don't remember that. Not saying it didn't happen, but i must have missed all that.

But if you're going to compare a goal as justification of people not complaining when Tyler goes mad, Vardy's goal was not it.

Flint Fredstone

monkey9 wrote: »

Don't remember that. Not saying it didn't happen, but i must have missed all that.

But if you're going to compare a goal as justification of people not complaining when Tyler goes mad, Vardy's goal was not it.

It doesn't need justifying.

monkey9

Flint Fredstone wrote: »

It doesn't need justifying.

Why bring it up at all though. He must have been sitting on that for a good while waiting for Tyler to shout at a goal.

Kerrigooney

FutureGuy wrote: »

I'm going to guess your club loyalty based on that comment.

He does the same with Liverpool players so I don't think it was a dig at Utd tbh.

Flint Fredstone

monkey9 wrote: »

Why bring it up at all though. He must have been sitting on that for a good while waiting for Tyler to shout at a goal.

I don't think you need to be sitting on anything. Tyler loses his shít over Vardy, guy remembers the hissy fits when he did the same over Martial and mentions it in thread. You seem to be the one making the big deal out of it.

Kerrigooney

The mask is slipping.

Flint Fredstone

Faugheen

Flint Fredstone wrote: »

I don't think you need to be sitting on anything. Tyler loses his shít over Vardy, guy remembers the hissy fits when he did the same over Martial and mentions it in thread. You seem to be the one making the big deal out of it.

Exactly this.

I've no issue with the way Martin Tyler commentates. It's been part and parcel of some of the best moments we've seen in English football (and this moment is one of them).

What I do have a problem with is morons calling him biased when he does it with Martial (Search the forum for 'Tyler' and go to 'Newest first' and you'll see what I mean) and saying nothing when he does it with Vardy, or Aguero. He'll lose his **** ever so slightly with a United player in the future and the nonsense will start again.

CSF

CSF wrote: »

Well they're not allowed blow up early, they're supposed to play 90 minutes, accounting for stoppages or whatever so it's obviously more than 90, but the fact that a team is attacking doesn't come into it. That is a rule in rugby, not football.

Added time was agreed as 2 minutes but the ref still ended the match prematurely in the middle of a utd attack 30 seconds early

Oranage2

There's no justifying this, united are a joke, probably the worst I've seen them in my life time and that's including the Moyes era. You I laugh when I see Lvg as the manager, I laugh at his signings I laugh at it formation I laugh at his tactics. The guy is an out and out chancer!

Optimalprimerib

keeponhurling wrote: »

Is the referee allowed to blow up early, when one team was in the attack ?
Seemed quite odd to me.

Is it not a case of common sense though? The ref was probably thinking that allowing more of uniteds exciting "to the side, to the side, and back again, and back again" attacking style might cause alot of people to miss christmas dinner.

sabat

The one thing I gathered from watching this match is that neither of these teams will be top of the league come May.

SlickRic

Oranage2 wrote: »

There's no justifying this, united are a joke, probably the worst I've seen them in my life time and that's including the Moyes era. You I laugh when I see Lvg as the manager, I laugh at his signings I laugh at it formation I laugh at his tactics. The guy is an out and out chancer!

He's ahead of Arsenal, genius.