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I hit someone last night

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 390 ✭✭VisibleGorilla


    Yes you could get yourself in a pile of trouble over this, depending if the guy is seriously injured or not you could be looking at 5 years.

    It's a very, very stupid move to punch someone like that so what that he pinched your girlfriends ass, move on from it.

    You could kill the man or leave him paralyzed while you're locked up ruining two lives for what? Pride?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭SAMTALK


    Grayditch wrote: »
    Not very many, it's rare. You're not going to hear mass reports on guys getting punched and then going home and eating a pot noodle with a sore nose. I see creeps being hit about once every two/ three months in clubs as a result of their actions, like this. Can't remember one death.

    How many times have I heard that girls are constantly in fear of being sexually touched in clubs? All the time. That has a huge psychological toll, one that's being ignored largely in this thread by 'after the fact' moral judges.

    I wouldn't ever tell someone to hit someone. I wouldn't tell them not to. It's not my place to tell someone what to do, or what is right or wrong. It's also not black and white or "one rule", as far as I'm concerned. I'm just glad to hear someone got what was coming to them, in this case. Sounds about right, and I hope the OP doesn't feel too bad about his instincts.

    Should he keep an eye on that instinct? That's up to him.

    Not trying to be argumentative but just because you didnt see anything doesnt mean it cant happen or doesnt happen. As a parent of a teen boy I do worry about this kind of behaviour and yes I have a girl as well and would be just as worried about the kind of thing that happened to OP's girl. I remember a few years ago a lad passed a horrible remark to me and my partner wanted to have a go at him. I told him to leave it because your man was full of drink and wouldnt even remember he said anything. Sometimes it takes a bigger person to walk away


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    A remark wouldn't draw any physical response from me anyway. I just know if I saw my girlfriend being assaulted and I had a few drinks on me, I know that reason and would go out the window. It's not always about 'defending a females honour'. I guess it's sometimes good to see a molestor get instant karma.

    I can't help feeling glad that creep got punched.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭SAMTALK


    Grayditch we're coming at this from two different generations i think. I absoutely detest the level of violence that seems to have crept into the social scene. I know it doesnt happen everywhere every night but it has got so common.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    I understand that. I'm far more concerned about a sexually abusive culture, anyway. I only see one victim here. I'm not saying violence is always the answer, but every case is different and sometimes people shouldn't feel ashamed about their gut instincts, in cases like this one. As I said, if it's something he wants to keep in check, that's all well and good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭SAMTALK


    Grayditch wrote: »
    I understand that. I'm far more concerned about a sexually abusive culture, anyway. I only see one victim here. I'm not saying violence is always the answer, but every case is different and sometimes people shouldn't feel ashamed about their gut instincts, in cases like this one. As I said, if it's something he wants to keep in check, that's all well and good.

    I would think a violent culture is just as bad to be honest. I am by no means saying that the fella wasnt wrong in touching the girl by why is it thought that violence is the answer.
    Why not ask him why he felt it was ok to touch her like that and would he like someone doing it to his girlfriend/sister.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    That would be all fine outside the heat of the moment of seeing a loved one touched like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭SAMTALK


    Grayditch wrote: »
    That would be all fine outside the heat of the moment of seeing a loved one touched like that.

    Therein lies the problem. "The heat of the moment".
    My son was in a pub one night when his friend got a box. I asked what happened and was told that his friend was talking to a girl he knew and her boyfriend didnt like it and boxed him "in the heat of the moment".
    I wonder if this happened at 3pm the next day would he have acted "in the heat of the moment".
    I personally think that a lot of these "defending" incidents wouldnt occur if drink wasnt involved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    I'd like to comment, but we cant talk about other incidents.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    SAMTALK wrote: »
    Therein lies the problem. "The heat of the moment".
    My son was in a pub one night when his friend got a box. I asked what happened and was told that his friend was talking to a girl he knew and her boyfriend didnt like it and boxed him "in the heat of the moment".
    I wonder if this happened at 3pm the next day would he have acted "in the heat of the moment".
    I personally think that a lot of these "defending" incidents wouldnt occur if drink wasnt involved.

    Incomparable incidents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭pookie82


    It's a very, very stupid move to punch someone like that so what that he pinched your girlfriends ass, move on from it.

    He didn't pinch her ass. Read the facts. It was a deliberate, two-handed grope. Would that be acceptable at a bus stop or in the workplace? Why is it acceptable in a night club? Would you "move on from it" if someone did it to your mother in her local Spar?

    I'm delighted he got a smack for his trouble, too few men do. Maybe he'll think twice about reaching out again when he figures he's entitled to grope a female for pleasure without her consent.

    OP, don't contact the venue, and don't go to the guards. Sit tight for now and assume if you hear nothing, nothing came of it. You've possibly done lots of girls on future nights out around this scumbag a massive favour. I wish someone had been there to do similar to the man who put his hand up my skirt and into my underwear at a bar a few years ago "for the laugh".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭SAMTALK


    Incomparable incidents.

    We were talking about in the heat of the moment so i used this as an example of "in the heat of the moment"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    SAMTALK wrote: »
    We were talking about in the heat of the moment so i used this as an example of "in the heat of the moment"

    Someone who can punches someone for talking to their girlfriend would probably do it at 3pm.

    The OP regrets what he did, hence the thread.

    But they're not comparable just because both happened 'in the heat of the moment'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,022 ✭✭✭skallywag


    Although a fair debate I feel that we are moving away from the OP's original reason for posting, i.e. he's not looking for a discussion on the wrongs or rights of this situation but is rather concerned on how this may now come back to bite him.

    The answer here is clear, i.e. one can indeed certainly get in very serious trouble if the injury caused turns out to be quite serious. E.g. take the case where this person's nose has been badly broken and he decides to push the issue. Depending on how things then pan out one could very easily be looking at a (criminal) conviction for anything from assault to GBH in the case that he break is serious. This is a tag which is going to stay with you forever and is going to play havoc with many potential career paths.

    OP, I get the feeling that you are now quite contrite, and have very likely taken a lesson away yourself from the whole unfortunate mess. Take no notice whatsoever of the clowns on this thread who you are trying to convince you that you did the right thing, where will these guys be should you end up suffering the consequences ...

    Try and keep a cooler head in the future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭SAMTALK


    Someone who can punches someone for talking to their girlfriend would probably do it at 3pm.

    The OP regrets what he did, hence the thread.

    But they're not comparable just because both happened 'in the heat of the moment'

    As i would imagine the lad who punched lad talking to his girl was!!
    And you cant be sure he would do it at 3pm either. As i said i was talking about the heat of the moment and not the incident that caused it!.
    I am glad to see that he regrets it and would hope that he learned his lesson from it as it would be him that would have been in more trouble if caught in my opinion


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    SAMTALK wrote: »
    As i would imagine the lad who punched lad talking to his girl was!!
    And you cant be sure he would do it at 3pm either. As i said i was talking about the heat of the moment and not the incident that caused it!.
    I am glad to see that he regrets it and would hope that he learned his lesson from it as it would be him that would have been in more trouble if caught in my opinion

    There's a level of provocation that results in incidents in the heat of the moment.

    Anyway, the OP regrets it and I don't think anything will come of it.

    I just don't think he needed to be cast as a thug (not saying you did).

    Hope the person that was punched learned a lesson too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    OP do nothing. Worry about solicitors if the arse grabber decides to press charges. I'd be surprised if he did though. He knows exactly why he got hit and will know that what he did will be brought up against him in court. If he has any common sense at all he'll nurse his broken nose in silence and keep his hands to himself in the future. The proprietors of the venue itself won't want to be bothered chasing this up either. It's nothing but hassle for them.


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