National reserve

cattle man

Nettleman wrote: »

okay wool, afaik, theres no greening or YF topup in that. Greening should bring it to 250, and 25% YF would bring it to 312...

Did you get talking to department recently nettleman nothing here yet and no answer on phones

Nettleman

cattle man wrote: »

Did you get talking to department recently nettleman nothing here yet and no answer on phones

Nothing here either, couldnt get through. Only thing i can think of now is to phone the two local FG politicians and telling them we are pulling the parents and our votes away from FG and telling them its down to this farce. Fckg fed up of this shyte :mad:

Nettleman

Nettleman wrote: »

Nothing here either, couldnt get through. Only thing i can think of now is to phone the two local FG politicians and telling them we are pulling the parents and our votes away from FG and telling them its down to this farce. Fckg fed up of this shyte :mad:

OH just spoke to the first politician who suggested going to the Public Service Ombudsman and raise a complaint when payment date of 1 December was promised.

wool521

my bps,greening and young farmer all updated now and showing in amount due in financial services,payment date today but not in bank but at least progress being made:)

Nettleman

wool521 wrote: »

my bps,greening and young farmer all updated now and showing in amount due in financial services,payment date today but not in bank but at least progress being made:)

Does your entitlement screen reflect all of that and is there anything new showing in your correspondance section?
You mentioned before that you had a small overclaim, and you still managed to get fully sorted out. Well Done-whats your secret?

ganmo

Nettleman wrote: »

OH just spoke to the first politician who suggested going to the Public Service Ombudsman and raise a complaint when payment date of 1 December was promised.

I think that would be a good idea.
We were promised an approval letter too which hasn't being materialised

Sami23

Any update for anyone 2day, nothing for myself anyway ?

Nettleman

Sami23 wrote: »

Any update for anyone 2day, nothing for myself anyway ?

no change on agfood for me today.

Jb1989

Sami23 wrote: »

Any update for anyone 2day, nothing for myself anyway ?

Nope

wool521

Nettleman wrote: »

Does your entitlement screen reflect all of that and is there anything new showing in your correspondance section?
You mentioned before that you had a small overclaim, and you still managed to get fully sorted out. Well Done-whats your secret?

entitlement screen showing bps and greening no young farmer for some reason but it showing in payments summary,had problems with application alright but got it sorted after about 20 phone calls the first of which I was told there was no problems and thereafter I was told something different every time I got through

mayota

Nothing here either. I'm in for BPS with a PCC and NR/YFS. Spoke to a girl in Dept and she recommended complaining to 057 8694331.

bmw1bmw1

I was talking to a lad on the 076 number and he said my problems were already sorted but that he didnt know when payment would be but that it would be in January. My agfood page says natin new though. Hope that helps some bit

Limofarmer

Anyone have any luck making progress .
Can't get through by phone.

mayota

Limofarmer wrote: »

Anyone have any luck making progress .
Can't get through by phone.

No. They should make a statement to the press.

viztopia

was just talking to some one who has a contact in the dept and they reckon dairy farmers are been prioritised - worth asking, has any applicants who happen to be dairy farmers not been paid yet?

mayota

viztopia wrote: »

was just talking to some one who has a contact in the dept and they reckon dairy farmers are been prioritised - worth asking, has any applicants who happen to be dairy farmers not been paid yet?

I would'nt believe that.

viztopia

mayota wrote: »

I would'nt believe that.

Well they are already getting top ups which I can't understand so I wouldn't be surprised

Sami23

mayota wrote: »

I would'nt believe that.

Let's wait and see from responses here

Nettleman

Sami23 wrote: »

Let's wait and see from responses here

Anythings possible on runup to election, but if the NR/YFS fund was robbed in 2015 to match the EU €13m to pay dairy farmers their 1300 hardship topup, that would definitely cross the line. we are now in 2016, being a new budget year and possibly 2 ministers of ag, so its all fair game in 2016. They've never said how lads who got paid NR 2015 got prioritised over the rest of us, which may involve a freedom of information request

viztopia

Nettleman wrote: »

Anythings possible on runup to election, but if the NR/YFS fund was robbed in 2015 to match the EU €13m to pay dairy farmers their 1300 hardship topup, that would definitely cross the line. we are now in 2016, being a new budget year and possibly 2 ministers of ag, so its all fair game in 2016. They've never said how lads who got paid NR 2015 got prioritised over the rest of us, which may involve a freedom of information request

It may help to explain the lack of response from any of the farming bodies?

Sami23

Nettleman wrote: »

Anythings possible on runup to election, but if the NR/YFS fund was robbed in 2015 to match the EU €13m to pay dairy farmers their 1300 hardship topup, that would definitely cross the line. we are now in 2016, being a new budget year and possibly 2 ministers of ag, so its all fair game in 2016. They've never said how lads who got paid NR 2015 got prioritised over the rest of us, which may involve a freedom of information request

Exactly, it could be dairy farmers that were prioritised or maby it was big farmers.
As a matter of interest did any small farmer who applied for say 5 to 6 hectares get paid yet ?

Nettleman

Sami23 wrote: »

Exactly, it could be dairy farmers that were prioritised or maby it was big farmers.
As a matter of interest did any small farmer who applied for say 5 to 6 hectares get paid yet ?

mines above 25ha and im not dairy-still no movement on agfood today

FarmerDougal

Sami23 wrote: »

Exactly, it could be dairy farmers that were prioritised or maby it was big farmers.
As a matter of interest did any small farmer who applied for say 5 to 6 hectares get paid yet ?

5ha here sheep..no pay yet

Limofarmer

Just got through to them .

National reserve rejected no reason why yet as we have to "wait for a letter to issue in the next few weeks "

YFS is cleared but don't no when it will be paid "payment will issue in the next few weeks "

basically nothing can be done only sit and wait to see when payment issues and then wait for national reserve rejection letter to issue . Hopefully we can appeal it as advisor could see no reason why we would not qualify

Spoke to advisor and he said even he can't get through or get any info either .

Unchopped

Dairy farmer, 38Ha, no sign of any decision or payment either.

Jb1989

Limofarmer wrote: »

Just got through to them .

National reserve rejected no reason why yet as we have to "wait for a letter to issue in the next few weeks "

YFS is cleared but don't no when it will be paid "payment will issue in the next few weeks "

basically nothing can be done only sit and wait to see when payment issues and then wait for national reserve rejection letter to issue . Hopefully we can appeal it as advisor could see no reason why we would not qualify

Spoke to advisor and he said even he can't get through or get any info either .

Your a small bit the wiser so
Hard luck on the national reserve
Jasus these 'letters to be issued' are some joke,
Wasn't late payment farmers due to get correspondence in early December, still waiting for them.!

Toplink

Limofarmer wrote: »

Just got through to them .

National reserve rejected no reason why yet as we have to "wait for a letter to issue in the next few weeks "

YFS is cleared but don't no when it will be paid "payment will issue in the next few weeks "

basically nothing can be done only sit and wait to see when payment issues and then wait for national reserve rejection letter to issue . Hopefully we can appeal it as advisor could see no reason why we would not qualify

Spoke to advisor and he said even he can't get through or get any info either .

The rules for the National Reserve application were pretty clear so it would be interesting to see why you have been unsuccesfull.

Will they change the criteria I wonder?

Limofarmer

Guy on phone was as helpful as he could but could only tell me what he seen on the screen in front of him .
Frustrating to have to wait now to see the reason with no clear timeline on when the letters are being issued.

ganmo

Limofarmer wrote: »

Guy on phone was as helpful as he could but could only tell me what he seen on the screen in front of him .
Frustrating to have to wait now to see the reason with no clear timeline on when the letters are being issued.

well there was a timeframe...that has long since past

Freejin

viztopia wrote: »

was just talking to some one who has a contact in the dept and they reckon dairy farmers are been prioritised - worth asking, has any applicants who happen to be dairy farmers not been paid yet?

Dairy here, no word yet

Greengrass1

bmw1bmw1 wrote: »

I was talking to a lad on the 076 number and he said my problems were already sorted but that he didnt know when payment would be but that it would be in January. My agfood page says natin new though. Hope that helps some bit

What was your issue?

Toplink

Must have rang 20 times today and no success getting through.

Nettleman

Toplink wrote: »

Must have rang 20 times today and no success getting through.

http://www.farmersjournal.ie/farmer-writes-frustration-from-lack-of-communication-and-understanding-197532/

Extract below..

"Most young farmers have not received any notification regarding the top-up they have applied for, or any information on whether they have been successful in their application to the National Reserve. Given that both the Young Farmers Scheme and the National Reserve had to be applied for online, it is inexcusable for the Department not to have systems in place to process these applications promptly and issue payments on time"

barnaman

Nettleman wrote: »

http://www.farmersjournal.ie/farmer-writes-frustration-from-lack-of-communication-and-understanding-197532/

Extract below..

"Most young farmers have not received any notification regarding the top-up they have applied for, or any information on whether they have been successful in their application to the National Reserve. Given that both the Young Farmers Scheme and the National Reserve had to be applied for online, it is inexcusable for the Department not to have systems in place to process these applications promptly and issue payments on time"

Checked my application and all my stuff was in and with the Dept by March so it is a poor show. I got zero correspondence from the Dept.

bmw1bmw1

Greengrass1 wrote: »

What was your issue?

he didnt say but i recently looked over the application and there was couple extra h/a applied for by ag advisor. stuff i didnt rent this year.. I assume that to be it.

Toplink

barnaman wrote: »

Checked my application and all my stuff was in and with the Dept by March so it is a poor show. I got zero correspondence from the Dept.

Zero communication. I have dealth with quite a few gov departments over the years but this is the worst experience ever.

Nettleman

Toplink wrote: »

Zero communication. I have dealth with quite a few gov departments over the years but this is the worst experience ever.

Nobody seems to care which is what really gets up my nose. It must be past time for a YF protest outside Ag house without farm organisations. Whyat about next week before calving and milking season kicks off.

Toplink

Nettleman wrote: »

Nobody seems to care which is what really gets up my nose. It must be past time for a YF protest outside Ag house without farm organisations. Whyat about next week before calving and milking season kicks off.

Im a part timer Nettleman and I am away with work all next week. I have a good friend who is a full time farmer and is in the same situation so i'll see what he's at.

ganmo

Nettleman wrote: »

Nobody seems to care which is what really gets up my nose. It must be past time for a YF protest outside Ag house without farm organisations. Whyat about next week before calving and milking season kicks off.

I'd see ya there

6480

Toplink wrote: »

Must have rang 20 times today and no success getting through.

I got through to them today and I was told there were no issues but couldn't tell me when I get paid nearly forgot take the call as I am a month getting through and I nearly hung up waiting on them . heard from a friend in the north that up there they started1st December and finished all payments to 95% of the farmers in 3 weeks so wat are our monkeys doing they are getting slower every year

barnaman

Slurry spreading opens next week Ganmo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-RVg-25z40

Greengrass1

Nettleman wrote: »

http://www.farmersjournal.ie/farmer-writes-frustration-from-lack-of-communication-and-understanding-197532/

Extract below..

"Most young farmers have not received any notification regarding the top-up they have applied for, or any information on whether they have been successful in their application to the National Reserve. Given that both the Young Farmers Scheme and the National Reserve had to be applied for online, it is inexcusable for the Department not to have systems in place to process these applications promptly and issue payments on time"

And what happens if the plonkers loose your online application. You've no proof you applied for it 😡😡😡

ganmo

I've no slurry to bring
and the sheep are still out so no dung either

L1985

We got paid for young farmer yesterday-it hit the bank account yest morn and got letter in post as well.Nothing on national reserve I'll call them Monday and speak to their lovely answering machine ðŸ˜Â

ormondeboy3

Lads, how soon are lads seeing an actual payment after receiving the text? Got a text today saying payment issued.

My Agfood view has had a payment date of 15 DEC for the past month...

Nettleman

ormondeboy3 wrote: »

Lads, how soon are lads seeing an actual payment after receiving the text? Got a text today saying payment issued.

My Agfood view has had a payment date of 15 DEC for the past month...

got through this morning and was told that all done, but cant tell me how much and cant tell me when the loolua is likely to be seen. Nothing on agfood either- entitlements under YFS still zero.

Sami23

Nothing here yet but question about Agfood Direct Payments main screen.
For past few months the entitlements section at the bottom had 2 sections, the first was Entitlement Position 2015-2019 and the 2nd had Outstanding issues with application for NR and when you clicked on that one it said it was pending and gave numbers to ring for NR and YF.
Just wondering did the 2nd one disappear on others b4 getting paid. ?
Just clutching at straws now but........

cattle man

Sami23 wrote: »

Nothing here yet but question about Agfood Direct Payments main screen.
For past few months the entitlements section at the bottom had 2 sections, the first was Entitlement Position 2015-2019 and the 2nd had Outstanding issues with application for NR and when you clicked on that one it said it was pending and gave numbers to ring for NR and YF.
Just wondering did the 2nd one disappear on others b4 getting paid. ?


Just clutching at straws now but........

My second one is gone now to but still no money

Sami23

Same as me so.
Hopefully someone who got paid can tell us if this happened them.

3611

I was one of the first paid and my entitlement position 2015-2019 has disappeared also.