Tenant feeding stray cats

intheclouds

Terrible situation, the humane response is TNR.

I am appalled by some of the posts on this thread.

Dr Strange

How boring, this thread has turned into a cat-haters vs. cat-lovers thread instead of dealing with the issue regardless of what animals are fed or kept.

OldNotWIse

FebruaryStars wrote: »

FYI there is no difference between a feral cat and a domestic cat. Feral cats are simply homeless (strayed from home or born outdoors). I'm disgusted by some of the inhumane attitudes here, especially from the landlord, not just toward cats but toward other human beings too! Cats are not vermin. They actually bury their waste, unlike dogs. There is an organisation called Feral Cats Ireland who will trap and neuter these cats. They may rehome them too, but as other posters have tried to tell you more homeless cats will replace them.

Indeed. Suggested violence towards cats is one thing, but towards another human being (who is clearly not in her right mind no matter how well meaning she might be), is something else entirely. There is so much hatred here, and the irony is that strays and ferals exist because of people's failure to fix their own cats, leaving them behind, dumping kittens etc. TNR aims to tackle the problem by reducing numbers. Short of nuking the place, it will never be cat free. Neutering will cut down on territorial aggression, spraying, fighting etc, though by the sounds of it, these are highly-charged, joyriding, anti-social zombie cats so perhaps this may not work! :P

OldNotWIse

Dr Strange wrote: »

How boring, this thread has turned into a cat-haters vs. cat-lovers thread instead of dealing with the issue regardless of what animals are fed or kept.

Humane suggestions were put to OP and met with suggestions of violence towards both cats and tenant. What do you expect?

intheclouds

OldNotWIse wrote: »

TNR aims to tackle the problem by reducing numbers.

And by leaving a stable, non reproducing colony in place to prevent new cats moving in. Usually best achieved with the co-operation of a caretaker who will feed the cats and keep an eye on them for injury/disease - plus arrange TNR for any new ones that do happen to appear. This lady would probably be well willing to perform such a role.

steddyeddy

Kaliyah Deafening Trial wrote: »

She is basically keeping pets, allowing them to destroy the garden (which is a health hazard), damaging cars which they are jumping on, carrying disease etc etc. If it was rats people would have a totally different tune and feral cats are vermin too (though obviously not as bad as rats) I don't know why some people cant see that.

An odd feral cat passing through every now and again is not a problem (once its not being fed) and isn't a big deal but when you have them in double figures its a different ball game and its just cant be allowed to continue.

Please give your meaning of vermin? There's no accepted scientific meaning.

They're nor pets. I feed foxes in my back garden but they're certainly not pets.

intheclouds

intheclouds wrote: »

And by leaving a stable, non reproducing colony in place to prevent new cats moving in. Usually best achieved with the co-operation of a caretaker who will feed the cats and keep an eye on them for injury/disease - plus arrange TNR for any new ones that do happen to appear. This lady would probably be well willing to perform such a role.

The op nor the other tenants want any cats around the place, covering place in s*hit, possibly damaging cars and creating a health hazard and a nuisance.

If people aren't feeding them more cats (or certainly only an odd one passing though) won't move in to replace as they have no reason to be around if they aren't getting food.

Feeding stray cats is a sure way to keep them hanging around and draw more.

steddyeddy wrote: »

Please give your meaning of vermin? There's no accepted scientific meaning.

They're nor pets. I feed foxes in my back garden but they're certainly not pets.

A lot of people would consider foxes vermin also certainly farmers etc and I wouldn't be feeding them either drawing them around the house they carry diseases and are a danger to anyone with small animals or hens etc along with new born lambs.

sillysmiles

Who knew people were so delicate and were so susceptible to the ravages of diseases carried through our towns and cities.
Maybe the foxes and feral cats will band together into a joyriding, anti-social zombie apocalypse foretelling coterie.

Rubberchikken

op you could be a little more helpful towards this tenant.
in truth, what harm is she doing. if she has mental health issues, maybe feeding the cats is a pleasdure for her.
speaking about what you'd like to do to her is unfair and unnecessary.
have you tried speaking to her? you're willing to take her rent. what would it cost to be humane?

intheclouds

Kaliyah Deafening Trial wrote: »

The op nor the other tenants want any cats around the place, covering place in s*hit, possibly damaging cars and creating a health hazard and a nuisance.

If people aren't feeding them more cats (or certainly only an odd one passing though) won't move in to replace as they have no reason to be around if they aren't getting food.

Feeding stray cats is a sure way to keep them hanging around and draw more.

Clearly you have little understanding of feral cat colonies.

steddyeddy

Kaliyah Deafening Trial wrote: »

The op nor the other tenants want any cats around the place, covering place in s*hit, possibly damaging cars and creating a health hazard and a nuisance.

If people aren't feeding them more cats (or certainly only an odd one passing though) won't move in to replace as they have no reason to be around if they aren't getting food.

Feeding stray cats is a sure way to keep them hanging around and draw more.



A lot of people would consider foxes vermin also certainly farmers etc and I wouldn't be feeding them either drawing them around the house they carry diseases and are a danger to anyone with small animals or hens etc along with new born lambs.

Name an animal that doesn't carry pathogens? I live near London currently. Farmers use of the phrase vermin does not make it more legitimate unfortunately.

meeeeh

Rubberchikken wrote: »

op you could be a little more helpful towards this tenant.
in truth, what harm is she doing. if she has mental health issues, maybe feeding the cats is a pleasdure for her.
speaking about what you'd like to do to her is unfair and unnecessary.
have you tried speaking to her? you're willing to take her rent. what would it cost to be humane?

If there are other people in the building they might not be prepared to rent in the middle of cat colony. I'm sure OP wouldn't be complaining if she rented a cottage in the middle of nowhere.

I do wonder how many of people advocating humane approach here are prepared to adopt a cat?

intheclouds

meeeeh wrote: »

If there are other people in the building they might not be prepared to rent in the middle of cat colony. I'm sure OP wouldn't be complaining if she rented a cottage in the middle of nowhere.

I do wonder how many of people advocating humane approach here are prepared to adopt a cat?

Ive already taken 2 in off the street myself and rehomed a number of kittens. Theyre great!

meeeeh

intheclouds wrote: »

Ive already taken 2 in off the street myself and rehomed a number of kittens. Theyre great!

Well only 6 more and then you will catch up with the number OP has to deal with.

And btw I when living with my parents we always took in stray cats and took care of them (more than two I might add). We can't at the moment because our dog kills them but seven or eight cats around apartment building is completely different issue.

Dr Strange

OldNotWIse wrote: »

Humane suggestions were put to OP and met with suggestions of violence towards both cats and tenant. What do you expect?

I probably expect more from a sensible discussion than some people.

intheclouds

meeeeh wrote: »

Well only 6 more and then you will catch up with the number OP has to deal with.

And btw I when living with my parents we always took in stray cats and took care of them (more than two I might add). We can't at the moment because our dog kills them but seven or eight cats around apartment building is completely different issue.

Ive rehomed way more than 6 kittens

But how many cats I have rehomed is irrelevant. People can have an opinion regardless of how many animals they themselves have rescued.

The humane solution here is TNR, it doesnt matter whether I have rehomed cats or not - I am still entitled to assert that. TNR does not involve adopting the cats. It means Trap Neuter Release.

There is a lot of scaremongering and nonsense being suggested on this thread. Youd swear the cats were vicious mountain lions the way some are going on.

Eric Cartman

I dont see anyone in this thread hating cats. The OP is well within his rights to discourage cats from being on his property and not wanting tennants to feed cats.

People suggesting its a good thing to have a cat colony really need to understand that not everyone loves cats that much and its not a good thing.

This woman obviously is mentally ill but id be getting those cats trapped and removed permanently or put down for both their sake and yours op.

the_syco

Rubberchikken wrote: »

op you could be a little more helpful towards this tenant.
in truth, what harm is she doing.

Cat poo everywhere, and cats are damaging the cars.

Rubberchikken wrote: »

if she has mental health issues, maybe feeding the cats is a pleasdure for her.

The landlord is not her friend, and thus doesn't need to care about her mental issues. He's running a business.

Rubberchikken wrote: »

have you tried speaking to her?

As per the first post, if the they talk to her, she screams;

rossmores wrote: »

i have ask her to stop on several occasions her mental state is not great as she starts shouting and crying when confronted

Mrs OBumble

the_syco wrote: »

The landlord is not her friend, and thus doesn't need to care about her mental issues. He's running a business.

Discrimination on the basis of mental disability is illegal, AFAIK. Treading carefully is recommended. An unhinged tenant can do a lot of damage to a property, especially if s/he feels victimized by the landlord.

intheclouds

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I dont see anyone in this thread hating cats. The OP is well within his rights to discourage cats from being on his property and not wanting tennants to feed cats.

People suggesting its a good thing to have a cat colony really need to understand that not everyone loves cats that much and its not a good thing.

This woman obviously is mentally ill but id be getting those cats trapped and removed permanently or put down for both their sake and yours op.

No one is saying a cat colony is a good thing but the fact is, it exists, it's not going to go away by evicting the tenant or threatening her to stop feeding them. TNR will prevent further breeding so that will resolve the problem over time.

There is no service to trap and permanently remove cats and even if there was, cat colonies do not exist in isolation so there would be a new one there in no time.

The suggestion that someone is mentally ill because they feed cats is laughable. All that can be deduced is that the person is an animal lover.

The OP feels ok to criticise the tenant for choosing to help animals, to criticise her life style, where she gets her money, to cast aspersions on her property ownership elsewhere, to claim he would commit violence towards her if she weren't female, if the tenant found this thread her solicitor would have a field day.

athtrasna

As some posters seem incapable of following moderator requests this thread is now being closed. Sorry OP. If you want to add an update please pm me or one of the other forum mods

athtrasna wrote: »

Mod note

Can we lay off the cat science please. Regardless of the pros and cons of having cats on the property the OP's issue is with the tenant effectively enticing them onto the property.