Shooting in California

tomwaterford

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

Maybe with a few hundred cops about they feel safe enough.

Despite the fact bullets can travel miles?

darkpagandeath

Why no comments on what the meeting was about in the conference room.

RobertKK

FBI:don't know if it is terrorism.

Jim Bob Scratcher

Jinonatron wrote: »

I would just like to point out this to those who will inevitably bash America's gun policy and call for gun control.

France was a gun free zone 3 weeks ago during the attacks. Food for thought.

Yes, but Mass shootings in America seem to be a weekly occurrence.

A vehicle in the golf course with multiple weapons inside being reported over the police scanner.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Why no comments on what the meeting was about in the conference room.

Oh, for goodness sake. Let them sort out the live situation before pandering to voyeuristic curiosity.

darkpagandeath

Lilith Rhythmic Racism wrote: »

Oh, for goodness sake. Let them sort out the live situation before pandering to voyeuristic curiosity.

So, One thinks the meeting that was the target has no bearing on this ? Nothing voyeuristic about it at all.

tomwaterford

darkpagandeath wrote: »

So, One thinks the meeting that was the target has no bearing on this ? Nothing voyeuristic about it at all.

Maybe tracking down gunmen on the loose is more important....though I do hope they capture them alive....as there has to be more than wanting to go down famous as a reason for mass shootings

darkpagandeath

darkpagandeath wrote: »

So, One thinks the meeting that was the target has no bearing on this ? Nothing voyeuristic about it at all.

No motive is known. The shooters said nothing throughout, according to witnesses.

Wompa1

Manic Moran wrote: »

This is unpossible. California already has some of the most restrictive gun laws, and only tightened them even more a couple of weeks ago.

Restrictive is a relative term. Also, the US is made up of 50 states with differing gun policies. I live in Arizona...I've driven to CA lots of times. Pretty easy for me to get a gun and drive over to CA. Ditto for somebody to drive over from CA and drive back with a gun.

People like to point to Chicago and say, look at that homicide rate and they have the most restrictive gun laws. Yeah and Michigan and Wisconsin have pretty lax gun laws. CA is by Nevada and Arizona, both of which have lax gun laws.

And again it's all relative because even the restrictive places aren't restrictive enough, in my opinion.

deaddonkey15

Jinonatron wrote: »

I would just like to point out this to those who will inevitably bash America's gun policy and call for gun control.

France was a gun free zone 3 weeks ago during the attacks. Food for thought.

That's why mass shootings are considerably less frequent in France.

darkpagandeath

Deleted User wrote: »

No motive is known. The shooters said nothing throughout, according to witnesses.

Ok, Can we get an update if one is reported from other sources I'm only looking at this hate Reddit.

SEPT 23 1989

Copper is very rattled

Hazys

The reporters at the Press Conference are ridiculously annoying.

The questions they are asking are in a tone that the Police Chief is lying and supposedly withholding information. He is obviously being careful with what he is saying to avoid causing unnecessary panic.

Also one reporter for some small network basically asked the police chief "Hey i'm from KGBL4 blah blah, we're late, we only set up our live stream now, can you just repeat all the things you said about the thing cos we missed it?"

darkpagandeath

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Ok, Can we get an update if one is reported from other sources I'm only looking at this hate Reddit.

The Reddit Live thread is different though. This is a screenshot of what you see there, so it's a lot less cluttered than the normal Reddit.

I'll continue posting updates here too.

SharpshooterTom

On the City-data forums nice to know the gun control debate once again has begun enthusiastically.

I'll tell the leftist liberals right now that we will NEVER give up our guns. It just is NOT going to happen. The majority of military, veterans, and police feel the same way.

To my fellow patriots: Lock and load!!!

http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/2490980-mass-shooting-san-bernardino-reportedly-20-a-24.html

Think that guy could only be a Trump supporter.

Whosthis

Michael Moore just posted on Twitter that there's another shooting incident underway at a women's clinic in Houston, Texas. Not seen it from a traditional news source yet.

SEPT 23 1989

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

On the City-data forums nice to know the gun control debate once again has begun enthusiastically.



http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/2490980-mass-shooting-san-bernardino-reportedly-20-a-24.html

Think that guy could only be a Trump supporter.

But they will never give up their guns try and take them off them and there will be civil war

Pointless debate

Penn

Nothing will be done.
Nothing will change.
Best get yourself down
To the ol' Gun Range.

tomwaterford

Whosthis wrote: »

Michael Moore just posted on Twitter that there's another shooting incident underway at a women's clinic in Houston, Texas. Not seen it from a traditional news source yet.

Jesus...hope there not related

Whosthis

Whosthis wrote: »

Michael Moore just posted on Twitter that there's another shooting incident underway at a women's clinic in Houston, Texas. Not seen it from a traditional news source yet.

Can't find anything else about that, but there is reports of another shooting at a military base in Albuquerque in New Mexico.

keano_afc

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Ah Christian terrorists on the rampage. The only type the USA has. Lucky them eh?

jaykay74 wrote: »

Could be christian terrorists again. Didn't they shoot up an abortion clinic a few days back?

Seen this phrase pop up quite a bit over the past few days. Some people seem to be genuinely happy they can bring Christianity into this despite no evidence at all to the motives of these shooters.

My name is URL

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

On the City-data forums nice to know the gun control debate once again has begun enthusiastically.



http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/2490980-mass-shooting-san-bernardino-reportedly-20-a-24.html

Think that guy could only be a Trump supporter.

A Breitbart reader too, no doubt

"People are not being told to stay indoors, just to be vigilant. We have suspects at large but we have absolutely no idea where they are." - Sgt. Vicki Cervantes, a San Bernardino City Police spokeswoman

Reuters

Wow, they really have no idea where they've gone.

Whosthis

Deleted User wrote: »

Can't find anything else about that, but there is reports of another shooting at a military base in Albuquerque in New Mexico.

One dead, two detained, no other info. http://abc13.com/1107084/

Unsurprisingly it may have been Michael Moore making it out to be something more than it was.

Manic Moran

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Hang on. People who are a threat and identified by authorities can still buy guns ?

Yep.

Here's the thing, though. If they had actually done anything illegal, they'd be arrested. They are on the 'pay attention to' list. One does not lose Constitutional rights because you cause people concern.

Wompa1 wrote: »

Restrictive is a relative term. Also, the US is made up of 50 states with differing gun policies. I live in Arizona...I've driven to CA lots of times. Pretty easy for me to get a gun and drive over to CA. Ditto for somebody to drive over from CA and drive back with a gun.

People like to point to Chicago and say, look at that homicide rate and they have the most restrictive gun laws. Yeah and Michigan and Wisconsin have pretty lax gun laws. CA is by Nevada and Arizona, both of which have lax gun laws.

And again it's all relative because even the restrictive places aren't restrictive enough, in my opinion.

Well, that's it, really, isn't it? A matter of opinion.

The guns are out there. In restrictive states or not. What, 220 million or so of them? Even if they went Australian and told everyone to hand them in and there was equivalent compliance, that's still over 50million out and about (And no chance of that happening anyway). Policy needs to be undertaken with the knowledge that the firearms are available and will be encountered.

Given I live in the California Bay Area, I may not be armed courtesy of the policies of the local Sheriff. I am unsure as to how this makes me any safer in the US than someone in Arizona (Or Modesto County) who may be, given the proliferation of weapons, and people willing to break plenty of laws to use them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRNJNlCGduM

Video of police storming original site of incident.

JCX BXC

RIP to all the innocent people who lost their lives in yet another shocking attack in America. Devastating.

One thing that strikes me is how people are scared now to travel to places like France and Belgium, while America is somehow perceived to be safer despite the continuous mass muders. I don't know how many times a month I get a news alert stating "10 killed in US" or "15 killed in US murders". How many of these do I get about France and Belgium?

JP Liz V1

14 dead - RIP

darkpagandeath

Carnacalla wrote: »

RIP to all the innocent people who lost their lives in yet another shocking attack in America. Devastating.

One thing that strikes me is how people are scared now to travel to places like France and Belgium, while America is somehow perceived to be safer despite the continuous mass muders. I don't know how many times a month I get a news alert stating "10 killed in US" or "15 killed in US murders". How many of these do I get about France and Belgium?

The Tragedy is An American in America is infinitely more lightly to be shot by another American rather than any terrorist. Via law enforcement criminals or random mass shootings.

PressRun

Cops saying the suspects could be in the building or miles away, they have no idea. Sounds like a bit of a mess, tbh.

Individual armed with a rifle & wearing camo pants spotted

Orangebrigade

ISIS attack.

darkpagandeath

Orangebrigade wrote: »

ISIS attack.

I'm sure one has proof ?

JCX BXC

Orangebrigade wrote: »

ISIS attack.

Proof? Link?

Or just the usual racism?

Whosthis

darkpagandeath wrote: »

The Tragedy is An American in America is infinitely more lightly to be shot by another American rather than any terrorist. Via law enforcement criminals or random mass shootings.

Have a look at this, http://shootingtracker.com/ , its nuts.

La Fenetre

Deleted User wrote: »

Individual armed with a rifle & wearing camo pants spotted

That narrows it down to about half of America

robbiezero

Carnacalla wrote: »

Proof? Link?

Or just the usual racism?

Why is that racist?

"Group using conference center was San Bernardino County Department of Public Health; holding a holiday event" - Reuters

MonkeyTennis

Orangebrigade wrote: »

ISIS attack.

No


No its not

Whosthis

Carnacalla wrote: »

Proof? Link?

Or just the usual racism?

I don't think racism means what you think it means.

darkpagandeath

Whosthis wrote: »

I don't think racism means what you think it means.

Why ? Is ISIL a white majority Christian terrorist group or ...

MonkeyTennis

Whosthis wrote: »

I don't think racism means what you think it means.

weird.. Thats kind spot on

Pursuit of black SUV underway.

BorneTobyWilde

Pointless killing of innocent people
The motives are never justified

darkpagandeath

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

weird.. Thats kind spot on

See my problem is just jumping to ISIL, Now if the people were shouting Religious slogans then fair enough.

Speeds being reported of up to 80mph in the pursuit.

Cops involved in pursuit are discussing over the dispatch.

I think they may have just said that there are gunshots. Yep. Gunshots out back window. You can hear the gunshots now.

Fleawuss

Deleted User wrote: »

Pursuit of black SUV underway.

Careful now. You could be accused of racism.
Or vehicleism.
Or somethingism.

Letree

Carnacalla wrote: »

Proof? Link?

Or just the usual racism?

Are you defending ISIS's honour. Are you upset that he could suspect ISIS of carrying out a mass shooting. Very strange position to take.

Specialun

Fleawuss wrote: »

Careful now. You could be accused of racism.
Or vehicleism.
Or somethingism.

Vehicleism