The Ultimate Fighter: Team McGregor v Team Faber Finale - Edgar v Mendes

Andersonisgod

Delighted, Frankie has earned his shot, he's the best featherweight right now aside from Also, he'll offer a massive test to Aldo again and the result this time could be different. Frankie answers every question asked of him.

Axwell

Mellor wrote: »

To be fair he's list to the divusions top 3. Doesn't mean he isn't still 4th.

He'll work back up the top ten, gate keep for a bit.

I was joking..wasnt suggesting he hang up the gloves yet.

Hes definitely still got a place in the division and assuming Conor moves up after a defence against Frankie it leaves Chad in a good position for one more run at it.

JustTheOne

Axwell wrote: »

Awww a little touchy? Maybe you should go to bed instead..

Youre been a smart arse for no reason. What's your problem?

Axwell

JustTheOne wrote: »

Youre been a smart arse for no reason. What's your problem?

Whats yours? Get up on the wrong side of the bed? If you cant take a joke then maybe its time you logged off and got some sleep or had a snickers.

JustTheOne

Axwell wrote: »

Whats yours? Get up on the wrong side of the bed? If you cant take a joke then maybe its time you logged off and got some sleep or had a snickers.

Whatever good luck.

Axwell

JustTheOne wrote: »

Whatever good luck.

Night precious.

RedemptionZ

Mendes via Submission

Going to go ahead and predict that if Conor wins he'll 'duck' Edgar and move up. Weight cut is already hell for him and Frankie would have Conor stylistically.

Amazingfun

Mendes via Submission

I feel in shock, between Artem's defeat and Frankie's KO, it's a all too much to compute, lol

JustTheOne

RedemptionZ wrote: »

Going to go ahead and predict that if Conor wins he'll 'duck' Edgar and move up. Weight cut is already hell for him and Frankie would have Conor stylistically.

Chad just isn't a natural striker.

Conor is much stronger in this area.

Axwell

RedemptionZ wrote: »

Going to go ahead and predict that if Conor wins he'll 'duck' Edgar and move up. Weight cut is already hell for him and Frankie would have Conor stylistically.

Id hope there is enough mutual respect there that he would give Frankie the shot he deserves. Dana already screwed Frankie over and he deserves a chance and for it to be against McGregor. Its also a big fight and will bring in the money so im sure Conor can be convinced to go one more if theres a chance to defend it here in Ireland and then move up.

Axwell

Frankies title shot just confirmed by Dana.

Axwell

Presser for anyone still up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CZ0fLrZL9o

Amazingfun

Mendes via Submission

Frankie just said Dana confirmed he can have the next title shot, he looks really happy

Axwell

Loser of Holloway vs Stephens get's Mendes. So thats what Chads up to next sorted!

DirkDiggly22

Wow.. Didn't expect Mendes to fold.fair enough Conor made him, but after watching replay v Aldo I'm thinking Mendes will walk through walls.. Wow. Easy. Too easy but I didn't take that punch so how do I know

shrewdness

Mendes via KO/TKO

Axwell wrote: »

Id hope there is enough mutual respect there that he would give Frankie the shot he deserves. Dana already screwed Frankie over and he deserves a chance and for it to be against McGregor. Its also a big fight and will bring in the money so im sure Conor can be convinced to go one more if theres a chance to defend it here in Ireland and then move up.

I know Conor has said different things at times about what's next for him, but I'm sure I remember him saying he'd move up to LW(assuming he wins tonight), unless Frankie does something special like finish Mendes early. Well that's his part done! You can't deny Frankie his shot now, and if Conor were to win those next two fights that will be the division "cleared out" as he says, with him beating the three big names.

You have to feel for Mendes a bit, long road back to another title shot now.

empacher

shrewdness wrote: »

I know Conor has said different things at times about what's next for him, but I'm sure I remember him saying he'd move up to LW(assuming he wins tonight), unless Frankie does something special like finish Mendes early. Well that's his part done! You can't deny Frankie his shot now, and if Conor were to win those next two fights that will be the division "cleared out" as he says, with him beating the three big names.

You have to feel for Mendes a bit, long road back to another title shot now.

Mendes the proverbial gatekeeper. Just like kenny florian before him.

DirkDiggly22

I love Frankie... But Chad didn't desrve that, Fack he fell easy...

Swashbuckler

Mendes via KO/TKO

Was it just me or was the stoppage a little early? I know he briefly went limp bit it looked like he had recovered enough to intelligently defend himself.

Lights On

Ended up crashing out before this last night and just caching up now. Shame to see Hall win over Artem, but have to give him credit where it's due, he knew what he had to do to beat Artem and he did it, didn't get himself dragged into a slugfest. Artem did well himself though, some nice defence which I'm sure Hall might have showed him when they were training together

Would really like to see himself and Marcin fight next, both lost their first fight and they both have no bother going out there and putting on a standing show, makes total sense imo.

As for the main event, can't really say anything else than what a punch

cloudatlas

Edgar via Submission

I think Saul would have beaten Artem anyway much more athletic and well rounded. Does Artem take instruction well? He strikes me as having a journey man career. I think Hall is an interesting fighter, brings something new with those heel hooks. If all of SBG's Ire fighters lose it will be v bad for the gym.

CatFromHue

shrewdness wrote: »

I know Conor has said different things at times about what's next for him, but I'm sure I remember him saying he'd move up to LW(assuming he wins tonight), unless Frankie does something special like finish Mendes early. Well that's his part done! You can't deny Frankie his shot now, and if Conor were to win those next two fights that will be the division "cleared out" as he says, with him beating the three big names.

You have to feel for Mendes a bit, long road back to another title shot now.

I think Conor's said both that he'll stay to fight Frankie and also he'd move up after beating Aldo so who knows.

If he does win and move up he'll vacate the belt so Frankie would then be fighting, I presume Aldo, for the belt.

cloudatlas

Edgar via Submission

Swashbuckler wrote: »

Was it just me or was the stoppage a little early? I know he briefly went limp bit it looked like he had recovered enough to intelligently defend himself.

Lights out for long enough, Frankie would have been on him hammering his face within seconds. Mendes was done.

Paully D

Mendes via KO/TKO

Is it just me or is this not available on Fight Pass to watch the replay of? Can't find it anywhere.

EDIT - and when I go into the event it shows backstage interviews with Frankie and Ryan Hall which clearly means they won. Cheers, Fight Pass. :rolleyes:

Wrongway1985

Mendes via KO/TKO

Paully D wrote: »

Is it just me or is this not available on Fight Pass to watch the replay of? Can't find it anywhere.

EDIT - and when I go into the event it shows backstage interviews with Frankie and Ryan Hall which clearly means they won. Cheers, Fight Pass. :rolleyes:

Ya same thing for me, no replay

clever user name

Paully D wrote: »

Is it just me or is this not available on Fight Pass to watch the replay of? Can't find it anywhere.

EDIT - and when I go into the event it shows backstage interviews with Frankie and Ryan Hall which clearly means they won. Cheers, Fight Pass. :rolleyes:

That always happens to me. I generally watch the events live on fightpass, but if I miss it I just download it. Not ideal but its the only way I can seem to watch it without seeing the result.

John_D80

Edgar via Submission

RedemptionZ wrote: »

Going to go ahead and predict that if Conor wins he'll 'duck' Edgar and move up. Weight cut is already hell for him and Frankie would have Conor stylistically.

If Connor wins and moves up it wont be because he is 'ducking' Edgar. He'll follow the money and there is a lot more money to be made with the hype that would be generated by a fight against a top 5 LW like Pettis or Cerrone (if he loses against Dos Anjos). Cerrone would stay at LW if it he got a crack at a McGregor payday.

McGregor vs. Cerrone/Pettis sells a lot more PPV's than McGregor vs. Edgar in my opinion. And if there is potential to sell a huge amount of PPV's, the matchmakers will have no problem putting him straight into the title mix against a big name lightweight.

Of course, he must win tonight for any of that to happen at all!

thewheel2.0

Mendes via KO/TKO

clever user name wrote: »

That always happens to me. I generally watch the events live on fightpass, but if I miss it I just download it. Not ideal but its the only way I can seem to watch it without seeing the result.

Pro tip for being unspoiled with fight pass:
Either Google "ufc fight pass event replays" (doesn't trigger Google news about UFC and gives you below link first result) or bookmark below link:
http://www.ufc.tv/category/event-replays

However, I noticed with Wonderboy's TUF that the replay wasn't on Fight Pass next morning, TUF cards seem to be unique like this, every other non PPV card is on Fight Pass right away.

bur

Mendes via Submission

Wow, didn't see that coming, pleased for Edgar though. In hindsight glad i dozed off during Artem/Hall.

Liam O

Shame to see Chad fold like that, thought he had the upper hand with those leg kicks. Frankie landed the big punches though I guess and that's what matters. Was looking forward to a good battle though, happy Frankie won but wouldn't have minded a couple more rounds to see where they both really are.

Paully D

Mendes via KO/TKO

A strange end to a very good season. Any other year neither Artem or Hall would have been in the finale obviously. Hall was impressive last night and Artem is nailed on to get a contract now too. Both will be good additions to the roster for different reasons.

Saul cut too as mentioned in the other thread. I'd imagine 1) mainly because he's really pissed the UFC off and 2) slightly because he'll never be let into America now so would be only be available for cards outside of the states.

Wrongway1985

Mendes via KO/TKO

John_D80 wrote: »

If Connor wins and moves up it wont be because he is 'ducking' Edgar. He'll follow the money and there is a lot more money to be made with the hype that would be generated by a fight against a top 5 LW like Pettis or Cerrone (if he loses against Dos Anjos). Cerrone would stay at LW if it he got a crack at a McGregor payday.

McGregor vs. Cerrone/Pettis sells a lot more PPV's than McGregor vs. Edgar in my opinion. And if there is potential to sell a huge amount of PPV's, the matchmakers will have no problem putting him straight into the title mix against a big name lightweight.

Of course, he must win tonight for any of that to happen at all!

Pettis? What really? Aldo Edgar generated more buys than Pettis Dos Anjos and that was with another title fight on the card also UFC 156 the "McGregor effect" wasn't bestowed on the featherweight division at that stage.

Edgar just made a huge statement, a fight with Pettis would only be an option if McGregor lost IMO.

Subcomandante Marcos

Mendes via Submission

That back take for the RNC attempt, tho...

Thing of beauty. Blinky "The Wizard" McHeelhook ladies and gentlemen!

http://gfycat.com/InconsequentialEasyEyelashpitviper

Lukker-

Mendes chin looks to be seriously bad. Edgar wouldn't be considered a heavy hitter by any stretch, I wonder does he take a break while trying to let it recover? Otherwise I see him getting dropped by either Holloway or Stephens. I knew Edgar was too wiley for him though, Chad's got no dynamism with his striking, typical wrestler with his overhands and uppercuts. His gameplan before wsa working quite well though. He has some nasty leg kicks, I really think he was slowing Edgar down before the knock out.

Depp

Mendes via Submission

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

That back take for the RNC attempt, tho...

Thing of beauty. Blinky "The Wizard" McHeelhook ladies and gentlemen!

http://gfycat.com/InconsequentialEasyEyelashpitviper

Halls Jiu Jitsu is something else...won him the fight! artems escape from the rnc was a thing of beauty though! serious heart

Subcomandante Marcos

Mendes via Submission

Depp wrote: »

Halls Jiu Jitsu is something else...won him the fight! artems escape from the rnc was a thing of beauty though! serious heart

It wasn't as escape as much as Hall just let go because he didn't think he could choke him out before his arms gave way. Artem did very well burying his chin into his chest but he was going purple in the face and looked like he wasn't long left for staying awake.

Ryan said in the post fight presser that he couldn't see/hear his corner because he was right beside and facing JK and the SBG lads so he couldn't tell if he was close or not but he knew it was around the jaw not the neck.

One of the things about last night that most pleases me is that this guarantees Hall more UFC fights which I don't know if he'd have got other wise and Artem will get fights regardless because Dana likes him.

Depp

Mendes via Submission

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

It wasn't as escape as much as Hall just let go because he didn't think he could choke him out before his arms gave way. Artem did very well burying his chin into his chest but he was going purple in the face and looked like he wasn't long left for staying awake.

Ryan said in the post fight presser that he couldn't see/hear his corner because he was right beside and facing JK and the SBG lads so he couldn't tell if he was close or not but he knew it was around the jaw not the neck.

One of the things about last night that most pleases me is that this guarantees Hall more UFC fights which I don't know if he'd have got other wise and Artem will get fights regardless because Dana likes him.

I was full sure he was going out! gutted for artem but he'll still get fights and do well and I'm absolutely delighted for hall!

mdwexford

Didn't enjoy Hall vs Artem myself. Halls BJJ is obviously super slick but I thought he could have done more. Can't take to Artem and thought he was rubbish last night.

Shocked Mendes got ko'd that early. Have the fights with Aldo and Conor weakened his chin?

Long road back to a title shot for him now.

mailburner

ferguson is made of steel, the shots he took and still kept coming forward, just plain unstoppable
cant remember ever seeing a lad with little or no regard for his safety
I can't imagine anybody will ever be calling out tony ferguson

Paully D

Mendes via KO/TKO

I was gutted Ferguson won after that illegal kick. It clearly impacted Barboza who was stunned from it. Yeah, he was deducted a point but it was well worth it and hardly looks a punishment at all now.

RedemptionZ

Mendes via Submission

I'm gonna have to disagree there, in the sense that I don't think the outcome was determined by it. I think if it affected Barboza to that degree he wouldn't have continued to outstrike Ferguson for almost the entire fight.

Ferguson is a great guy and acknowledged the illegal kick was BS post fight. He's a reckless fighter so I don't think there was any malice or intent in it. That said intent or not I do think there needs to be more severe punishments for breaking the rules like that. In rugby they say the best flankers are the ones who are the best at breaking the rules and getting away with it, you don't want that sort of environment in the Octagon. Eye pokes especially.

Foxtrol

RedemptionZ wrote: »

I'm gonna have to disagree there, in the sense that I don't think the outcome was determined by it. I think if it affected Barboza to that degree he wouldn't have continued to outstrike Ferguson for almost the entire fight.

Ferguson is a great guy and acknowledged the illegal kick was BS post fight. He's a reckless fighter so I don't think there was any malice or intent in it. That said intent or not I do think there needs to be more severe punishments for breaking the rules like that. In rugby they say the best flankers are the ones who are the best at breaking the rules and getting away with it, you don't want that sort of environment in the Octagon. Eye pokes especially.

Well if Barboza had said he couldn’t continue then Ferguson would have lost the fight. Think that’s a heavy enough punishment.

TireeTerror

Is this the same program that is shown on Fox Sports 1 in the US? Is this a continuation of the Ultimate Fighter series? My friend is trialing for Ultimate Fighter 23 in Las Vegas, just waiting to find out if he was chosen. Ive never watched the show, so wondered if its like this.

Subcomandante Marcos

Mendes via Submission

TireeTerror wrote: »

Is this the same program that is shown on Fox Sports 1 in the US? Is this a continuation of the Ultimate Fighter series? My friend is trialing for Ultimate Fighter 23 in Las Vegas, just waiting to find out if he was chosen. Ive never watched the show, so wondered if its like this.

Same thing, this was season 22.

Gamebred

season 23 is joanna v claudia ive heard.

Subcomandante Marcos

Mendes via Submission

Gamebred wrote: »

season 23 is joanna v claudia ive heard.

They trialed both women's divisions and 205 men I think?

Paully D

Mendes via KO/TKO

Gamebred wrote: »

season 23 is joanna v claudia ive heard.

I still can't believe Joanna got the decision over Gadelha in their first matchup. Crazy decision IMO.

No doubt Joanna has improved big time since then however so their upcoming bout is one of my most anticipated of 2016, though Joanna is pushing for Gadelha to have one more fight before it happens.