Battlefield 1 general discussion

FAILSAFE 00

dreamers75 wrote: »

Awesome I can stop playing with the "elite" players who prefer health regen, minimap spotting and unlimited snipers.

Odd what I call Noobcore is the opposite of what you call Noobcore.

I know what he means

A lot of players use it to get handy kills. A poor sniper can now kill with ease. Sniping the toes becomes the headshot of normal mode lol.

Dcully

No aim needed really, just click and enemy dead no such thing as tracking target.
All weapons suddenly become the same more or less, medic weapons suddenly turn into rapid firing 1 shot kill laser beams [atleast in normal every medic gun takes 3 shots to kill at any range unless its a HS] all those different weapon characteristics are thrown out the window.
Just played a game there with my favourite gun the Seblestader on hc and it was a 26 round 1 shot kill machine, absolutely stupid, please tell me whats hardcore about that?
Servers full of campers, always was always will be worse than normal for camping.

Granted the no spotting and no regen are welcome but apart from that its just silly.

Each to their own and all but this isn't something like red orchestra,arma,insurgency,squad etc designed from the ground up as realistic military shooters, this so called hardcore is a tacked on gimmick mode that IW invented for COD and its the same thing from DICE, ofcourse there are players who enjoy it but for me its a broken mode.

IvoryTower

Always preferred it for TDM in bf4.

Dcully

Yeah its probably good for a laugh in TDM

Grumpypants

Dcully wrote: »

No aim needed really, just click and enemy dead no such thing as tracking target.
All weapons suddenly become the same more or less, medic weapons suddenly turn into rapid firing 1 shot kill laser beams [atleast in normal every medic gun takes 3 shots to kill at any range unless its a HS] all those different weapon characteristics are thrown out the window.
Just played a game there with my favourite gun the Seblestader on hc and it was a 26 round 1 shot kill machine, absolutely stupid, please tell me whats hardcore about that?
Servers full of campers, always was always will be worse than normal for camping.

Granted the no spotting and no regen are welcome but apart from that its just silly.

Each to their own and all but this isn't something like red orchestra,arma,insurgency,squad etc designed from the ground up as realistic military shooters, this so called hardcore is a tacked on gimmick mode that IW invented for COD and its the same thing from DICE, ofcourse there are players who enjoy it but for me its a broken mode.

You die from getting shot once, so you know, you need to avoid getting shot even once.

The Moldy Gowl

IvoryTower wrote: »

Was one of the most annoying things about cod, that and the sniping glitch thing.

Yeah. Used to frustrate me so much when I got the jump on people and they would drop to the ground and kill me.

I learnt to do it though, and then used to carry a shotgun and ak47 with the fast hands so I was a sweaty boy back then

Have tried to do the jump to the ground a few times in bf and just got my face shot in

Dcully

Grumpypants wrote: »

You die from getting shot once, so you know, you need to avoid getting shot even once.

Yeah that's why everyone camps in that mode.

FAILSAFE 00

Hardcore mode will be good for flushing campers out of normal mode.

ktulu123

Dcully wrote: »

Your doing it wrong then and this is the stereotype we consistently see in gaming but you simply cant generalize like this.

Sniper is my most played class,let me explain.
No I don't lie prone as a sniper miles away [I'm never prone], anyone that ever played with me will see me in the thick of the action as an aggressive sniper.

Nothing comes close to this style of play in terms of difficulty and satisfaction.
You cannot beat close quarters sniper action or better still I run with no scopes and just ironsight with bolt actions.

Try it and get good at it and enjoy, cant recommend it enough.

This is how I play recon too, Martini-Henri for life!! :P Aggressive recon is great fun to play, tough at times but very rewarding.

Edit: Not a fan of hardcore mode myself, I prefer the "classic" mode that they brought back for BF4 from the older games. Hopefully they bring that in for BF1

iLikeWaffles

Jesus you can't even tell if it is your own teammate in front of you or not with the hard to spot settings. Has it always been like that in previous BF games I mean? Should at least have some indication if friendly you have to point your gun at your team member and try to spot them like they are the enemy takes a second to come up too. Spotting your team mates doesn't work when your in a tank btw. Thought I got a 5 man squad wipe but it was just a 5 man team kill.

FAILSAFE 00

iLikeWaffles wrote: »

...Thought I got a 5 man squad wipe but it was just a 5 man team kill.

LMAO.

That was my concern with hardcore in this Battlefield. Take an already intense FPS game and then add hardcore. Its a recipe for team kills.

iLikeWaffles

FAILSAFE 00 wrote: »

LMAO.

That was my concern with hardcore in this Battlefield. Take an already intense FPS game and then add hardcore. Its a recipe for team kills.

I was spamming the sh1t out of Q. was funny!

The Specialist

Is it just me or is the sentry kit a waste of time? I'll murder all around me with support class but I barely register 1 or 2 hits with the sentry, it's wildly inaccurate. I normally die with a single kill or none at all, while I can rack up kills with the flame trooper.

zl1whqvjs75cdy

Had a bit of a go of it there. Some thoughts.

Dreadnoughts. Total ****ing ****e. Get rid ASAP. Too many games now we've been winning by 70 or so and in comes ridiculous armoured train etc and wrecks you. Ridiculous stuff.

Too many scouts hanging back and not playing objectives.

People not attempting to take out vehicles. Doing it on your own and getting smashed repeatedly is no fun.

The operations game mode seems fun. But it seems very hard to win as defenders. Last night on the last leg as the attackers we got three goes at it. And on the last go we had the train and only had yo capture two flags. Seemed very unbalanced.

Notorious

donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »

Dreadnoughts. Total ****ing ****e. Get rid ASAP. Too many games now we've been winning by 70 or so and in comes ridiculous armoured train etc and wrecks you. Ridiculous stuff.

Dreadnauts are bullet magnets. I find that they rarely have an effect on the outcome of a game.

Wonda-Boy

Notorious wrote: »

Dreadnauts are bullet magnets. I find that they rarely have an effect on the outcome of a game.

Depends if you join the "Lazy Server".....I have seen the enemy blip last nearly the entire round with peeps not bothering to shoot it. Same peeps moaning in chat for "someone" to shoot the blip down coz they to retarded to change kit from sniper or whatever to do same.

Getting a bit if stuttering back now which was alot better before the patch ffs. St Quintin Scar map is a LAG FEST!

heebusjeebus

Tried a game of Hardcore Rush last night. Lasted 5 minutes and 6 deaths then ragequit.
3 of those deaths at the hand of squadmates who i spawned beside :rolleyes:
Waste of time!

Noxin

Its so funny. The people crying for hardcore servers are now crying that the hardcore servers are too hardcore. xD

I played a round of HC CQ on Amiens last night and holy crap. So funny and enraging at the same time. First round in a long time I've had a negative KD of 15/16.

We started off. Everyone ran to the first flag where our light tank proceeded to roadkill half the team. I nearly wet myself laughing at it. He gave zero fcuks. Right from there I knew it was gonna be a bad day. I think at least half of my deaths were teamkills.
I don't think I managed to TK anyone but I certainly assisted a few enemies wtih their kills.

My big issue with it is that everyone just snipes. It emphasises one of the more annoying parts of BF1 because now a snipe will insta kill no matter where you hit. People just find a tucked away little spot and camp for entire rounds. Was very annoying.

IvoryTower

once it leaves the starting point i cant imagine ill have any clue whether players are with me or not, sure in normal mode it took me a few games to cop. I imagine they'll reintroduce the thingy over their head

gimli2112

Are you not kicked after you TK a number of times? Was never a big fan of HC, so will likely steer clear.

Noxin

gimli2112 wrote: »

Are you not kicked after you TK a number of times? Was never a big fan of HC, so will likely steer clear.

Didn't seem to be happening yesterday from what I can see but I'm sure it'll be added in the future when they flesh out the server customisation options a bit more.

gimli2112

Troll heaven so.

zl1whqvjs75cdy

Is the appearance of enemy fire on the minimap a bit different this time around too? They show up as full on red squares when spoted, but they don't seem to show up as clearly when they shoot. There seems to be a red semi circle on the map that might indicate the direction they are in, but not an exact location. Is thaf right or am I missing something blindingly obvious?

gimli2112

donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »

Is the appearance of enemy fire on the minimap a bit different this time around too? They show up as full on red squares when spoted, but they don't seem to show up as clearly when they shoot. There seems to be a red semi circle on the map that might indicate the direction they are in, but not an exact location. Is thaf right or am I missing something blindingly obvious?

they don't show up at all in BF1 when they shoot afaik - no need for silencers (even if they had been invented)

Shlippery

Went back to BF4 to do the M1911 "battlefest" mini grind to get the skin / dog tag..! Now I can happily uninstall it and focus back on BF1!

Played a bit of Fog of War last night! Was bit of craic, was afraid FF was on and was extra cautious but then I just went a bit trigger happy and kept at it. Good way to get pistol practice in while running around a forest lost and confused!

Exclamation Marc

Love the rebalancing of the LMG guns for support. Much easier to rack up killstreaks and have a fair fight.

I was handy enough with the Benet-Mercie Storm before the update but now it's a pure animal.

Noxin

Yup, no appearing on minimap.

That's why spotting is so important now.

jrby

Hi, had to download a new driver for Nvidia last night.....the visuals are now worse, has this happened to anyone else and how did you improve it?

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Dcully wrote: »

No aim needed really, just click and enemy dead no such thing as tracking target.
All weapons suddenly become the same more or less, medic weapons suddenly turn into rapid firing 1 shot kill laser beams [atleast in normal every medic gun takes 3 shots to kill at any range unless its a HS] all those different weapon characteristics are thrown out the window.
Just played a game there with my favourite gun the Seblestader on hc and it was a 26 round 1 shot kill machine, absolutely stupid, please tell me whats hardcore about that?
Servers full of campers, always was always will be worse than normal for camping.

Granted the no spotting and no regen are welcome but apart from that its just silly.

Each to their own and all but this isn't something like red orchestra,arma,insurgency,squad etc designed from the ground up as realistic military shooters, this so called hardcore is a tacked on gimmick mode that IW invented for COD and its the same thing from DICE, ofcourse there are players who enjoy it but for me its a broken mode.

You are upset when somebody stereotypes snipers, yet you have no problem adding stereotypes of your own. You still have to track targets and you still have to aim. Can you be anymore wrong? Hardly.

The medic weapons are not a one hit kill in HC mode either. Biased opinions are very biased.

Dcully wrote: »

Yeah that's why everyone camps in that mode.

Overstatement. You don't like HC mode, we understand that, but avoid the generalizations and what not. There's no kill cam in HC so most of the time you have no idea who has killed you, but of course, must be a camper...

Dcully

For a start whos upset? really? lol

You don't have to track targets [as in keep your crosshair/ironsight/scope on the target for longer than a nano second] like you do in normal, why your even debating that is beyond me.

Everyone camps in hardcore is an overstatement, yeah possibly but while you and your squad run around PTFO you will see half the server camping, so yeah maybe a bit of an overstatement but I assumed gamers got my meaning.

If you enjoy that gameplay more power to you.