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Spiced beef

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  • 15-12-2015 7:38pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 922 ✭✭✭


    OMG! Cooked one last night......steeped it in cooking liquid (guiness and veg mix) overnight.....its supposed to be for sister and her family who arrive from Canada tomorrow but I've almost eaten the whole thing already........it is delicious especially sliced really thinly with mustard. Yum, yum.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭lenscap


    Yep , you can't beat spiced beef. I do mine in the pressure cooker and then it's pick at it when cold, that and a home cooked ham.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,040 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Good with mustard, even better with horse radish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    What is it? FXB had a few in the window


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,040 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    RasTa wrote: »
    What is it? FXB had a few in the window

    It's wet cured beef which is then left in a dry spice mixture to infuse and become spiced beef. Usually boiled like bacon or ham and served cold, sliced thinly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    It's utterly delicious. I cook mine in the pressure cooker with white wine, brown sugar, bay leaves & water. Leave to cool in the cooking water for extra tenderness.

    I love mine in sandwiches with a hard cheese (like Coolea) and some mustard. Delicious


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    Sounds like a thing for Cork people, I'll leave them at it. Might catch some of their diseases.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,429 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    What's the Christmas connection with this, if any?


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,467 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    I've bought one this year for the first time ever as I've never had it before (I'm English!) I haven't cooked it yet, but I have a vague idea it might be a bit like pastrami, would that be anything close?


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    RasTa wrote: »
    Sounds like a thing for Cork people, I'll leave them at it. Might catch some of their diseases.

    Cork and Dublin thing. Don't know how widespread it is elsewhere.
    Alun wrote:
    I've bought one this year for the first time ever as I've never had it before (I'm English!) I haven't cooked it yet, but I have a vague idea it might be a bit like pastrami, would that be anything close?

    Good comparison, not dissimilar


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,040 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    What's the Christmas connection with this, if any?

    Dunno why but it was always consumed at and associated with Christmas. In recent years, it's available all year round.

    I distinctly remember BBC's Food and Drink show doing a recipe for it back in the late 80s or early 90s so it's not unknown in the UK.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,657 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    RasTa wrote: »
    Sounds like a thing for Cork people, I'll leave them at it. Might catch some of their diseases.

    You may only be joking, but that sort of post is not welcome in this forum. Don't post like that again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,449 ✭✭✭✭pwurple


    What's the Christmas connection with this, if any?

    I don't know... I've a few guesses though!

    Spices are always traditional and readily available around christmas, in cakes, cloves stuck in oranges, cinnamon all over the place. Why not on meat!

    It's very close to the recipe for pastrami. Beef with a wet brine, followed by dry spices. Pastrami was brought around the world by jewish people, as a way of preserving meat before refridgeration. It would be eaten during hanukka, which is very near christmas. I'm guessing there was some cultural integration with the jewish quarter in Cork.

    Anyway, wherever it came from, it's flipping delicious and always makes up our christmas brekkie. Thinly sliced Spiced beef on toasted malt bread. NOMS!


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Finished our first piece last night. Must see where I can get another one today.


  • Registered Users Posts: 464 ✭✭pugwall


    I think it became popular in Cork and Dublin after a Darina Allen cookery show in the mid 1990's.
    My family cooked it for the last few years and its delicious. We just boil it in water for 90 mins (1.7 KG).
    Must try some other liquid recipes next year like the above recommended.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,040 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    pugwall wrote: »
    I think it became popular in Cork and Dublin after a Darina Allen cookery show in the mid 1990's.
    My family cooked it for the last few years and its delicious. We just boil it in water for 90 mins (1.7 KG).
    Must try some other liquid recipes next year like the above recommended.

    Nope.
    It was popular in Cork (I can't speak for elsewhere) long before the 90s.
    Certainly in the 70s.
    Before that, ask someone older!


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭mneylon


    It's traditional in Cork and Waterford.
    It's become a lot more commercialised over the last few years, so you can often find packs of cold slices in some of the larger supermarkets around the country,

    Personally I prefer having spiced beef to turkey :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭Taboola


    I tried some of this for the first time over Christmas. Wasn't a fan. I prefer my beef in steak form.


  • Registered Users Posts: 397 ✭✭Red Wolf


    My mother said they used to do it in parts of Belfast a long time ago


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,712 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tree


    The mother picks it up sliced from the deli in the local supervalu on Xmas Eve, every year, as the rest of us aren't keen on it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 401 ✭✭iora_rua


    To me it sounds like ham, full of additives and/or sugar/salt? Can't imagine more than a couple of slices would be a good idea?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭RentDayBlues


    I just can't stomach it at all, my mother in law does it every year, bleh!


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,777 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    It is brined beef with spices - Water & salt being the main additives, so I can't see what the issue is on that point.

    That said, it is very highly flavoured, so you probably wouldn't eat huge amounts in one sitting.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭Miaireland


    I wasn't a fan until a family member made their own this year. It was really lovely. I know our local butcher used to only make it at Christmas but in the last couple of years they supply it all year round. It seems to be more and more to see it on sandwich menus around here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,657 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    In the Cork area, it is traditionally available as a general thing: in the rest of the country, Christmas only. Just one of those things!

    And it's not well known really outside Dublin or Northern Ireland: when butchers used to always spice their own and display it with holly or - more recently - holly printed plastic, LOL!
    Even Tesco usually have it at Christmas. F X Buckley do a great one, too: but be aware that there are 2 qualities: Brisket (that's the one that would be more like pastrami) and Silverside (lightly marbled)

    Theodora Fitzgibbon gave a recipe for making your own in a book called A Taste of Ireland, published in 1968.
    I actually made my own, as a beginner bride, from a Katie Stewart recipe in a book that I bought about 1970 in England: and Elizabeth David mentions it too, as a Christmas dish, in "Spices, salt and aromatics in the English kitchen" : and she also informs us that it may be bought in Harrods. (But, of course!)

    It is the BEST thing, slowly simmered and pressed and sliced thin: hot with chicken, or cold, with mustard, in sandwiches - one of the glories of an Irish Christmas.

    If you haven't tried it, do.


  • Registered Users Posts: 850 ✭✭✭tickingclock


    Theodora Fitzgibbon gave a recipe for making your own in a book called A Taste of Ireland, published in 1968.

    I'm a massive Theodora fan. She was such a talented lady. I have numerous newspaper clippings from her recipes in the paper. I've never tried her spiced beef recipie. When you have a chance could you post it please?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,657 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    @tickingclock - yes, sure.
    I've never made hers, mind: but I've made another, several times; and it was always delicious.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭Mike Litoris


    McLaughlans in Ballyfermot used to sell it. I used to be a butcher there many moons ago. Not sure if they still do but it was always in stock and really sold well at xmas and easter.

    IIRC it was basically standard corned beef rolled in a spice mix that reeked of cloves. The boss always made it himself so I've no idea what exactly went into it. He always used the Eye of the Round as it gave a nice cylindrical joint. I tried it once and didn't really like it.


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