The Tipperary GAA (Club and Intercounty) Thread

jprboy

Grats wrote: »

Is there some home and away agreement between Tipp and Dublin I wonder. Tipp had home advantage in the league quarter final when Dublin defeated them in Semple Stadium. I don't remember any moaning from Dublin at the time so perhaps there is an agreement.

Home and away agreements generally only apply to the Championship. League fixtures wouldn't be brought into the mix.

Last Championship meeting between the two was an AI qualifier in Thurles in 2017.

Ompala

No need to worry about home and away versus Dublin, Laois have dumped them out.
We should beat Laois in the quarter final, but we have to turn up. Take nothing for granted.

Xenophile

Ompala wrote: »

No need to worry about home and away versus Dublin, Laois have dumped them out.
We should beat Laois in the quarter final, but we have to turn up. Take nothing for granted.

31 Counties will be cheering on Laois.

Ompala

Xenophile wrote: »

31 Counties will be cheering on Laois.

I think thats to be expected though. Neutrals always like to see the underdogs do well.

Seadin wrote: »

You can never take any game for granted. Eddie Brennan is used of beating Tipp and I'm sure he will inspire Laois to give it a go.

Agreed, and we've seen that happen today and already multiple times in the championship. Still though, I am expecting Tipp to win. But we must turn up and take the game seriously.

Rasputin11

Seadin wrote: »

You can never take any game for granted. Eddie Brennan is used of beating Tipp and I'm sure he will inspire Laois to give it a go.

Yes, Eddie Brennan's time as a hurler on the best team of a generation has relevance to what happens next Sunday.

Mantis Toboggan

Don't think anyone thought we'd have laois is a quarter final. Draw definitely worked out for us. Having said that Laois are a fine team and we certainly can't take them lightly.
Cavanagh doesn't miss too many frees so something we need to focus on not giving soft frees. The Dunphys will also need to be shut down. Should be a belter.

digzy

Ah lads come on...::this game will be sh1t.

The spread is 15 points and were 1/80.

Lightening won’t strike twice.

Only down side is that a fair proportion of the tipp support won’t travel because it’s laois and the results a foregone conclusion

nw5iytvs0lf1uz

It is not arrogant to say tipp will win handy. If u saw the highlights last night some of the Laois hurlers looked really cack handed striking the ball.
If tipp lose this we may as will give up hurling
This could not have worked out better for tipp
Basically a prep game in Croke Park to get the team ready for Wexford.

Donadea Leo

Surely it's a chance to throw on the fringe players, all those young lads we finished with the last day need game time. I actually think it's bad for us laois won, Don t get me wrong I m delighted for them and it's good for hurling but dublin would gave given us a real rattle, I d imagine they had one eye on us yesterday.

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Donadea Leo wrote: »

Surely it's a chance to throw on the fringe players, all those young lads we finished with the last day need game time. I actually think it's bad for us laois won, Don t get me wrong I m delighted for them and it's good for hurling but dublin would gave given us a real rattle, I d imagine they had one eye on us yesterday.

dublin would give us a good rattle and given our age profile and recent thrashing we dont need that.
by the time we play wexford we will have had basically a 4 week break.
that will give us a chance of beating wexford.

Donadea Leo

Malik Sparse Okra wrote: »

dublin would give us a good rattle and given our age profile and recent thrashing we dont need that.
by the time we play wexford we will have had basically a 4 week break.
that will give us a chance of beating wexford.

Fair enough but we can t really win on Sunday, if we beat them out the gate, it's to be expected, if it's any way tight question marks remain. Hard to build any momentum off of it. A win over dublin who had just knocked out galway might have restored some belief, not that that would be a sure thing by any account. Hopefully the break will be a benefit rather than a drawback.

Joe_ Public

Donadea Leo wrote: »

Fair enough but we can t really win on Sunday, if we beat them out the gate, it's to be expected, if it's any way tight question marks remain. Hard to build any momentum off of it. A win over dublin who had just knocked out galway might have restored some belief, not that that would be a sure thing by any account. Hopefully the break will be a benefit rather than a drawback.

You're spot on about it been a no win game for us (apart from actually winning the game, that is, but you know what i mean!). Think we might see a couple of tactical changes, but nothing drastic because they simply have to maintain a professional ethic and give no impression we're taking anything for granted. People shouldnt forget Westmeath gave us a bit of bother a couple of years back and any slackness or complacency wouldnt augur well for the matches afterwards, assuming we get over this one.

Tipp 77

We have to treat this match the exact same as if we were playing Dublin. If we do then you can get lads off the bench on if we have a good lead built up. But we need to hit Laois hard early to do that.
Also regardless of who we were playing you'd expect a few changes from the Munster Final team anyway

Mantis Toboggan

Under 20's munster semi final tonight in Semple vs Waterford 19.30. Live on tg4.

Paddy Cadell, Jerome Cahill & Jake Morris all start from our senior setup.

Really need some of these young lads to step up.

Ompala

Tipp 77 wrote: »

We have to treat this match the exact same as if we were playing Dublin. If we do then you can get lads off the bench on if we have a good lead built up. But we need to hit Laois hard early to do that.
Also regardless of who we were playing you'd expect a few changes from the Munster Final team anyway

Barry Heffernan at full back be worth trying? Thought he played well there vs Clare.

Tipp 77

I could see that one coming Mick Breen might be under pressure at midfield too he has been subbed the last two games Assuming Niall O'Meara is 100% Dan McCormack or Ger Browne could go in therequote="Ompala;110646848"]Barry Heffernan at full back be worth trying? Thought he played well there vs Clare.[/quote]

Joe_ Public

2 nice goals there, great vision from Jerome Cahill, great pace from Colin Bowe.

Mantis Toboggan

Jerome Cahill off, should be starting Sunday.

Joe_ Public

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Jerome Cahill off, should be starting Sunday.

Not a bad call. Either him or Ger Browne, would like to see one of them anyway.

Bit bloodless to learn much from that, but looks a very decent side at a minimum. Loved the way Niall Heffernan took a big hit there and bounced straight up, ready to get on with it. Love to see that in young lads.

Mantis Toboggan

The blahs were terrible so its hard to know. Once we got going we played some nice stuff. Worryingly not one player south of Cashel involed. Whatever is going on down there it's not working. Population in the south is higher, if we only had half as many hurlers coming from the south compared to north tipp we'd be unstoppable.

iebamm2580

is odd seen as st marys and moyle rovers both won minor a titles recently.

Joe_ Public

Conor Whelans a southie isn't he? I was thinking he might make that team tonight, or even the bench at least, was the standout minor from last year for me.

iebamm2580

Yeah from davins, brother Michael was on panel last year would have been playing but injured most of the year.

Mantis Toboggan

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

The blahs were terrible so its hard to know. Once we got going we played some nice stuff. Worryingly not one player south of Cashel involed. Whatever is going on down there it's not working. Population in the south is higher, if we only had half as many hurlers coming from the south compared to north tipp we'd be unstoppable.

Liam picked a good few South men on that minor winning side from 16 to be fair and he scours the length and breadth of the county for talent. Strangely enough the likes of Mikey O'Shea or Conor Whelan who excelled on last years minor team havent been called up. Perhaps its a sign of intense competition. Both of those lads really stood out last year.

Xenophile

The team and panel from last Tuesdays Under 20 game.

1. Aaron Browne – Knockavilla-Donaskeigh Kickhams
2. Conor McCarthy – Nenagh Éire Óg
3. Michael Purcell – Thurles Sarsfields
4. Craig Morgan – Kilruane MacDonaghs (Capt.)
5. Eoghan Connolly – Cashel King Cormacs
6. Paddy Cadell – JK Brackens
7. Bryan O’Mara – Holycross-Ballycahill
8. Ciarán Connolly – Loughmore-Castleiney
9. Jerome Cahill – Kilruane MacDonaghs
10. Gearóid O’Connor – Moyne-Templetuohy
11. Jake Morris – Nenagh Éire Óg
12. Joe Fogarty – Moneygall
13. Seán Hayes – Kiladangan
14. Billy Seymour – Kiladanagn
15. Conor Bowe – Moyne-Templetuohy


16. Eoin Collins – Drom-Inch
17. Niall Heffernan – Golden-Kilfeacle
18. Robbie Quirke – Toomevara
19. Seán Ryan – Templederry Kenyons
20. Devon Ryan – Knockavilla-Donaskeigh Kickhams
21. Kian O’Kelly – Kilruane MacDonaghs
22. Johnny Ryan – Arravale Rovers
23. Andrew Ormond – JK Brackens
24. Ray McCormack – Borris-Ileigh

I do not see any player from the South here.

digzy

Xenophile wrote: »

The team and panel from last Tuesdays Under 20 game.

1. Aaron Browne – Knockavilla-Donaskeigh Kickhams
2. Conor McCarthy – Nenagh re
3. Michael Purcell – Thurles Sarsfields
4. Craig Morgan – Kilruane MacDonaghs (Capt.)
5. Eoghan Connolly – Cashel King Cormacs
6. Paddy Cadell – JK Brackens
7. Bryan O’Mara – Holycross-Ballycahill
8. CiarConnolly – Loughmore-Castleiney
9. Jerome Cahill – Kilruane MacDonaghs
10. GearO’Connor – Moyne-Templetuohy
11. Jake Morris – Nenagh re
12. Joe Fogarty – Moneygall
13. SeHayes – Kiladangan
14. Billy Seymour – Kiladanagn
15. Conor Bowe – Moyne-Templetuohy


16. Eoin Collins – Drom-Inch
17. Niall Heffernan – Golden-Kilfeacle
18. Robbie Quirke – Toomevara
19. SeRyan – Templederry Kenyons
20. Devon Ryan – Knockavilla-Donaskeigh Kickhams
21. Kian O’Kelly – Kilruane MacDonaghs
22. Johnny Ryan – Arravale Rovers
23. Andrew Ormond – JK Brackens
24. Ray McCormack – Borris-Ileigh

I do not see any player from the South here.

There's 3 south riders on the bench!

iebamm2580

iebamm2580 wrote: »

is odd seen as st marys and moyle rovers both won minor a titles recently.

When that group were u18 two years ago, both Joe Gunn and Niall Hoctor were on the panel and they would have been County minor winners along with Gavin Ryan who was named captain of that 2016 minor panel but was injured that year.

digzy

digzy wrote: »

There's 3 south riders on the bench!

And Eoin Connolly starting too

Xenophile

Are we talking about the 4 divisions here.

North.

Mid

West

South.

Xenophile

The Tipperary team to play Laois

1. Brian Hogan – Lorrha-Dorrha
2. Cathal Barrett – Holycross-Ballycahill
3. James Barry – Upperchurch-Drombane
4. Alan Flynn – Kiladangan
5. Brendan Maher – Borris-Ileigh
6. Padraic Maher – Thurles Sarsfields
7. Ronan Maher – Thurles Sarsfields
8. Noel McGrath – Loughmore-Castleiney
9. Ger Browne – Knockavilla-Donaskeigh Kickhams
10. Dan McCormack – Borris-Ileigh
11. John O’Dwyer – Killenaule
12. Niall O’Meara – Kilruane MacDonaghs
13. Jason Forde – Silvermines
14. Séamus Callanan (Capt.) – Drom-Inch
15. John McGrath – Loughmore-Castleiney

16. Paul Maher – Moyne-Templetuohy
17. Michael Breen – Ballina
18. Robert Byrne – Portroe
19. Jerome Cahill – Kilruane MacDonaghs
20. Willie Connors – Kiladangan
21. Barry Heffernan – Nenagh Éire Óg
22. Mark Kehoe – Kilsheelan-Kilcash
23. Séamus Kennedy – St. Mary’s
24. Brian McGrath – Loughmore-Castleiney
25. Jake Morris – Nenagh Éire Óg
26. Seán O’Brien – Newport

Mantis Toboggan

Strong team named. Think it's important to get off to a good start and not to give laois any hope of thinking they can win. Think Sheedy will want goals and to bury Laois early. Might be a good opportunity to give the younger lads a run out in the second half. Curtain raiser should be a cracker!

tipp_tipp_tipp

Good luck to Ger Browne! Hope he has a good game!

digzy

Looks like barring loosing a limb, james Barry is undroppable .....

What happened to our u21 fb from last year?

Mantis Toboggan

digzy wrote: »

Looks like barring loosing a limb, james Barry is undroppable .....

What happened to our u21 fb from last year?

He's on the bench.

digzy

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

He's on the bench.

Surely he’s worth a punt here

Mantis Toboggan

digzy wrote: »

Surely he’s worth a punt here

Possibly but it's late in the season now, he's been around the squad all year but hasn't made many match day panels suggesting that Sheedy isn't a big fan. Barry should be fine for the laois game and the Wexford game should suit him as they play a physical game but if we get to the final against Limerick or Cork I'd actually go with the 3 corner backs, O'brien, Barrett and Flynn.

Ompala

Interesting team named. I'm reading it as Sheedy giving Barry another game to try get his confidence back after the Limerick game. It is definitely a position that we need to work on, as we really have no established full back apart from Barry. Having said that, Brian McGrath, Michael Whelan or Conor Whelan are all promising player who could fill the gap in the future. Similarly we keep chopping and changing our full back line between Sean O Brien and Alan Flynn. Need to get a settled full back line. Killian O Dwyer is a promising prospect for the number jersey.

Regards the other changes, happy to see Ger Browne starting and looking to see how he gets on. Pressure will be on Michael Breen in the future to hold on to his spot. Good to see Niall starting again, didn't make any real impact off the bench against Limerick but tbf the whole team had given up trying at that point.

Ideally Sheedy will want this game put to bed early and get to empty the bench. Its an opportunity to give the likes of Jerome Cahill, Jake Morris, Brian McGrath and Mark Kehoe a good run out if things pan out this way. Looking forward to the game.

Finally, as for the Under 20s during the week, took a while to settle but as soon as they hit their stride comfortably the better team. Will be a big step up against Cork in the Final, but no reason we can't win. Cork have good forwards but a bit suspect at the back.

1373

digzy wrote: »

Looks like barring loosing a limb, james Barry is undroppable .....

What happened to our u21 fb from last year?

found nobody to replace him last year , and tought he did very well until the munster final . But if we are to go by the munster final then 13 of the team would not start on sunday

Tipp 77

James Barry will be a far better player with Cathal Barrett beside him and Brendan Maher back at 5. Like you say he hadn't done much wrong up to the Munster final and no full back will survive if the ball is coming back in him straight away after he clears it. But we definitely need to try someone new there in the league next year

1373 wrote: »

found nobody to replace him last year , and tought he did very well until the munster final . But if we are to go by the munster final then 13 of the team would not start on sunday

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Mantis Toboggan wrote:

but if we get to the final against Limerick or Cork I'd actually go with the 3 corner backs, O'brien, Barrett and Flynn.

Can't see him doing that in a final if he doesn't do it beforehand

nw5iytvs0lf1uz

if tipp do manage to get to the final, i think tipp will have to adopt a very defensive game and try keep the scoring low.
basically mob our own half of the field when we dont have the ball and make limerick/cork shoot from distance.
tipp in this scenario would also have to score from distance.
tipp just need to be alive with 20 to go.

Joe_ Public

Tipp 77 wrote: »

James Barry will be a far better player with Cathal Barrett beside him and Brendan Maher back at 5. Like you say he hadn't done much wrong up to the Munster final and no full back will survive if the ball is coming back in him straight away after he clears it. But we definitely need to try someone new there in the league next year

Agree completely with you. Sheedy backed Barry from the start of the year, put his faith in him and can't just step back now following one setback. If he was flush with options then who knows? As far as i recall, Brian McGrath was injured for quite a bit of the League so not sure about the comment re Sheedy not liking or rating him or whatever it was.

1373

Malik Sparse Okra wrote: »

if tipp do manage to get to the final, i think tipp will have to adopt a very defensive game and try keep the scoring low.
basically mob our own half of the field when we dont have the ball and make limerick/cork shoot from distance.
tipp in this scenario would also have to score from distance.
tipp just need to be alive with 20 to go.

tipps strength is in the forwards ,

digzy

1373 wrote: »

But if we are to go by the munster final then 13 of the team would not start on sunday

Yet breen seems to be the only casualty..

Mantis Toboggan

Axel Kind Suds wrote: »

Can't see him doing that in a final if he doesn't do it beforehand

I wouldn't rule it out, neither of those teams play an orthodox full forward.

Heading in now will be interesting to see the attendance. Cork v kilkenny should be a cracker.

robbiezero

digzy wrote: »

Yet breen seems to be the only casualty..

Breen has really only played well v Waterford this year. Has been in and out of it in all the other games. Forde is the same, but is too important on the frees.

robbiezero

Tipp 77 wrote: »

James Barry will be a far better player with Cathal Barrett beside him and Brendan Maher back at 5. Like you say he hadn't done much wrong up to the Munster final and no full back will survive if the ball is coming back in him straight away after he clears it. But we definitely need to try someone new there in the league next year

I don't think it would have made any difference v Limerick if Barrett had been there. If Barry gets dragged out the field or into space he is in big trouble.
In previous games we had the luxury of sitting Paudie in front of him and our corner backs were largely in place and we worked really hard to stop teams playing in good ball so he largely had a armchair ride and is actually a good full back when he can maintain his position around the square.
However Paudie was dragged out by Limerick and we couldn't stop them playing good ball in and Barry was well exposed by them. At the moment we probably don't have any other options and we will be hoping that we can hold our shape a bit better to protect him.
I would be worried about the likes of Rory O'Connor for Wexford against him in the semi-final.

digzy

robbiezero wrote: »

Breen has really only played well v Waterford this year. Has been in and out of it in all the other games. Forde is the same, but is too important on the frees.

Was referring to the limerick game. Thought breen was in good company in terms of performance. Think Sheedy should’ve wielded the axe for Laois. Would’ve liked to see 4 of the less established names start.

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digzy wrote:

Was referring to the limerick game. Thought breen was in good company in terms of performance. Think Sheedy should’ve wielded the axe for Laois. Would’ve liked to see 4 of the less established names start.

Sheedy pinned his hopes on mostly the old guard from the start and he won't change now I reckon.

1373

digzy wrote: »

Was referring to the limerick game. Thought breen was in good company in terms of performance. Think Sheedy should’ve wielded the axe for Laois. Would’ve liked to see 4 of the less established names start.

ryan wielded the axe last year after the league final and destroyed our chances