The Tipperary GAA (Club and Intercounty) Thread

digzy

matthewmurdock wrote: »

Whispers (yes I know, might be absolutely nothing in them) of going back to the old knockout format for this year.

Very hard to see any gaa back before August. Listening to Leo last night, things will get worse before they get better. I’d say the seasons over before it starts

Joe_ Public

Cant predict anything i dont think. You could be off till november and still theoretically run off a championship by end of year. Thats a good distance off.

If not, the silver lining is that tipp will not have failed in the back to back attempt so that monkey would be off our backs forever.

Joe_ Public

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Cant predict anything i dont think. You could be off till november and still theoretically run off a championship by end of year. Thats a good distance off.

If not, the silver lining is that tipp will not have failed in the back to back attempt so that monkey would be off our backs forever.

Back to back isnt two consecutive years though, its two consecutive championships. Sorry to burst your bubble

Joe_ Public

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Back to back isnt two consecutive years though, its two consecutive championships. Sorry to burst your bubble

Ah well, i thought it was worth a try anyway 😔

robbiezero

Joe_ Public wrote: »

I think the whole point of them is to have the entire panel there to work on bonding and tactics, among the usual other things, so i doubt anyone is excused within reason. I'm sure they're given plenty of notice so cant imagine its too difficult to make the necessary arrangements or adjustments. Making sacrifices is par for the course for these lads, after all. Tipp do carton house quite a bit, or used to anyway. Most of the top counties do I'd imagine.

I think Tipp set aside a lot of the hurling work to be done in this camp.
Last years league went fairly similarly to this years. Rusty looking, inaccurate, sloppy at times, all pointing to not a whole lot of stick work done.
Last year in the space of two months, they went from that to playing the best hurling of any team in the country. I imagine a huge amount of stick work is done in that week of a camp.
If championship is significantly delayed, then it probably is a bit of a waste, but at the time, they had no way of knowing what was coming.

Joe_ Public

robbiezero wrote: »

I think Tipp set aside a lot of the hurling work to be done in this camp.
Last years league went fairly similarly to this years. Rusty looking, inaccurate, sloppy at times, all pointing to not a whole lot of stick work done.
Last year in the space of two months, they went from that to playing the best hurling of any team in the country. I imagine a huge amount of stick work is done in that week of a camp.
If championship is significantly delayed, then it probably is a bit of a waste, but at the time, they had no way of knowing what was coming.

I'd agree a lot of emphasis will be on stick and ball work from this point of the season on. I think the point of camps abroad is just to have everybody away together, none of the distractions of home, so they can work on everything and that would include some heavy lifting, though nothing like boot camp proportions. I'd imagine a lot of talking sessions, bonding exercises, psychology stuff, players opening up etc. I've no idea really, just pure guesswork on my part.

joeguevara

I wonder did their club doctor give advice on whether to travel or not. Around the same time, we had relations going to the canaries and my brother told them in no uncertain terms not to go. While this was before the whole thing blew up, medical practitioners had been informed of what was coming.

digzy

What’s done is done. Criticism of the county’s support staff is completely pointless at this stage. Most of us are practically self isolated now anyway.
Can’t believe this is an issue for posters here.

joeguevara

Have been watching the two johnnies posts over the last few days and much needed comic relief. Glad they are not socially distancing from each other.

Also when needing a bit of a boost I blare out this.

https://youtu.be/Clrk9L6Cc5U

The Dublin neighbours must think I’m nuts.

ProudDUB

Not necessarily. Big fan of listening to the podcast when out on the bike. Dunno how many times I've nearly fallen off during Noel's News, I was laughing so hard.

mahoney_j

mahoney_j wrote: »

It was reckless and unnesecarry money shouldn’t come into it are they any better than the crowd that went to Cheltenham ????trip shouldn’t of went ahead end of

Im not sure whether the flight was private or public but in Tipps defence, they were in relative privacy over the two week period. Fair to say that the world changed dramatically from the time they left Ireland to the time they came back. Although Ireland had some cases at that point, it was assumed the situation could be controlled. They probably should have held off but its possible they had a few grand of Declan Kellys money spent at that stage and felt under pressure to justify it.

seligehgit

Deleted User wrote: »

Sorry to hear that Digsy.

Best of luck to all contributors on this page and please stay safe in this time of uncertainty. We will prevail in the end.

Just like to echo those sentiments.

So sorry to hear that Digsy.

Xenophile

Tipperary All-Ireland-winning hurler Tom Larkin has passed away.

He was part of the Premier team that lifted the Liam MacCarthy Cup in 1958, thanks to a 4-09 to 2-05 victory over Galway.

Larkin, born in 1931, was also a talented footballer, representing Tipp's seniors and coaching his native Kilsheelan-Kilcash to county football titles in 1968 and 1972.

His club described him as "a star in every sense of the word".

"His homecoming as an All-Ireland medal winner... was one of the greatest events the parish has ever seen and the celebration that took place is part of the folklore of the area," Kilsheelan-Kilcash posted in a tribute on Facebook.

"Tom was a star at club level in every sense of the word. His role as team trainer with many club teams over the years was highly successful. His contribution as a team trainer was recognised and hugely appreciated by all the players of that era."

Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam.

Xenophile

TIPPERARY GAA INSIST their Semple Stadium redevelopment plan is ‘a long-term project’ and accept that they will have to wait for the funding to help finance the upgrade which is envisaged to cost €8-9 million.

The Tipperary county board have been planning a major refurbishment of the Kinane Stand at their Thurles venue over the past couple of years.
Planning permission has been granted for the project which will involve an extra tier aimed at putting in place corporate facilities and the installation of a gym to complement the county’s existing training facilities at the nearby Dr Morris Park.

Major constraints in GAA funding are now likely with all playing activity currently shut down and the 2020 championships set to impacted by the ongoing Covid-19 crisis.

But Tipperary secretary Tim Floyd insists they were always planning on playing a waiting game before the current public health crisis emerged with other stadium projects around the country a bigger priority for the GAA.

“This has been a project for two years really, all the design work and getting it ready for planning. It wasn’t an immediate project, it’s a long term project. It’ll probably be longer now in the present climate. We have planning permission now for five years and we’ve an opportunity to get the ball rolling within that five years. We’ve invested a few pound now in the design and everything so we hope it’ll eventually happen anyway.

The main thing is that we’ve a project ready to go now in the event of funding coming in. We know it’ll be slow enough now coming back from Croke Park and Government funding as well with everything that’s going on. We have it there now for when everything is right.

“We knew that anyway, when we did do a presentation to Croke Park last year, we were well down the pecking order because they had their designated projects, the likes of Walsh Park and Páirc Tailteann and Newbridge. But at least we wanted to get in there.

“It’ll take a year and a half to two years I’d say from the time you start. It’s all a second tier so there’s none of it actually on the ground floor. The existing structure is there so you’re building within it.”

Floyd felt there was a need to make improvements to compete with other major national stadia.

“We’re probably falling behind when you see a new stadium coming on stream like Páirc Uí Chaoimh and the developments that have gone on in Croke Park. It’s getting more difficult to maintain stadiums because it’s a costly exercise so we just wanted to have a plan and vision in place.

“Especially in the corporate side of it, we’ve a corporate area in the planning for 200-250 people with bar and kitchen facilities. That’s a big part of it because we’ve never really had that in Semple Stadium. It was lacking that.”

Tipperary had considered developing further their setup at Dr Morris Park with the lack of a gym owned by the county board proving a challenge in recent years for the training of their teams.

We in the county board don’t really have a gym and Semple Stadium doesn’t have a gym. We’re constantly hiring facilities like across the way in the LIT Campus. So we just needed to be self-sufficient and that was all part of the plan. The benefit of having the gym on that side of the stadium is it’ll be right next door to our training facilities in Dr Morris Park.

“We originally intended building a Centre of Excellence in Dr Morris Park. We had actually a plan drawn up and all, then we sat back and said, ‘Where’s the point in us building another new building?’

“We said we’d build it within the confines of Semple Stadium. That was the thinking behind it, we said we’d change our direction completely and decided to just build it within the stadium. We’d have access to the dressing-rooms there as well.”

Xenophile

Xenophile wrote: »

Tipperary All-Ireland-winning hurler Tom Larkin has passed away.

He was part of the Premier team that lifted the Liam MacCarthy Cup in 1958, thanks to a 4-09 to 2-05 victory over Galway.

Larkin, born in 1931, was also a talented footballer, representing Tipp's seniors and coaching his native Kilsheelan-Kilcash to county football titles in 1968 and 1972.

His club described him as "a star in every sense of the word".

"His homecoming as an All-Ireland medal winner... was one of the greatest events the parish has ever seen and the celebration that took place is part of the folklore of the area," Kilsheelan-Kilcash posted in a tribute on Facebook.

"Tom was a star at club level in every sense of the word. His role as team trainer with many club teams over the years was highly successful. His contribution as a team trainer was recognised and hugely appreciated by all the players of that era."

Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam.

God rest Tom Larkin. Great to see Mark Kehoe and possibly also Paul Maher carrying the batton for the club these times.

g6fdyotp5nj2l7

RIP Tom Larkin

Happy easter fellow Tipperarians plus visitors to the page.

Has there been any artistic impression of the Kinane stand development released yet? So long as the poles are removed and the stand can be supported from the back (if possible), I honestly dont care what else they put in.

The Lost Sheep

Deleted User wrote: »

Happy easter fellow Tipperarians plus visitors to the page.

Has there been any artistic impression of the Kinane stand development released yet? So long as the poles are removed and the stand can be supported from the back (if possible), I honestly dont care what else they put in.

Wilson architecture in cork were involved in designing the plans so maybe check their website?

kala85

You can see the plans on the planning section of Tipperary County Council website but I don't think it shows the stand from the pitch view so it doesn't show if the poles are being removed.
I doubt the poles are being removed to be honest.

It looks like this development is just putting in function room into the back of the stand, gym and dressing rooms rather than changing anything in the actual stand, as far as I can see.

I think the old stand, ie this stand is the better of the two stands in thurles and would prefer that the other one was redeveloped.

It's a pity the development of pairc ui chaoimh was not done in thurles. Thurles would be better location I think for major games.

kala85

kala85 wrote: »

You can see the plans on the planning section of Tipperary County Council website but I don't think it shows the stand from the pitch view so it doesn't show if the poles are being removed.
I doubt the poles are being removed to be honest.

It looks like this development is just putting in function room into the back of the stand, gym and dressing rooms rather than changing anything in the actual stand, as far as I can see.

I think the old stand, ie this stand is the better of the two stands in thurles and would prefer that the other one was redeveloped.

It's a pity the development of pairc ui chaoimh was not done in thurles. Thurles would be better location I think for major games.

I couldnt find it on the Tipp CoCo planning site or at least not the up to date plans. Ill see if i can refine my search later.

Its disappointing if we are not modernising both roofs at least, in my view. I think the seating areas at present are decent, but in the modern age of stadium build, grounds should be completely free of viewing obstruction. I dont personally give a sh1t about bars or restaurants but in fairness i can see how such facilities can potentially generate a bit of revenue for the county board

Do we need a gym faciltity in the actual stadium? Surely this facility should be in Morris park where we train mostly at present?

kala85

http://www.eplanning.ie/TipperaryCC/AppFileRefDetails/19600399/0

Here is the link to the planning application

Scroll down on that page to view scanned files and you can see the drawings and all the planning submission and you'll get the gist of it.

OAOB

So they are basically just building an extension at the back of the stand and no changes to the existing structure or seating area. If you're not corporate you shouldn't notice any difference to your match day experience

OAOB

OAOB wrote: »

So they are basically just building an extension at the back of the stand and no changes to the existing structure or seating area. If you're not corporate you shouldn't notice any difference to your match day experience

i thought when they mentioned corporate that they were going to incorporate croke park style corporate boxes at mid level where you can watch the game and have the grub. I do fail to see why Thurles cant just go the whole hog and develop a top class stadium. They'll only end up doing it eventually when the big games eventually dry up and Cork start getting them. Im sure there would be a few big hitters willing to donate to a real ambitious project. It doesnt seem to be an overhaul but a modest extension.

OAOB

From a quick scan of the drawings i'd imagine the top few rows of blocks will be removed and replaced with glass and that will provide the corporate viewing area, it's a half arsed design really.

My own opinion is that the county board shouldn't be investing massively in a complete stadium upgrade. I love the old stand, very few bad seats in it apart from those damn poles (in reality they don't bother me much once the game is going). Better facilities in behind is what the old stand needs. Anyone i know always prefers an old stand ticket which is a clear endorsement of it.
The new stand is what i think they should develop, it's a cheap structure and doesn't maximise the area of ground it takes up. I'd knock that and build a proper stand that has a proper corporate area.

I would hate to see us going down the Cork route and building a vanity project. I would much rather invest a bit in the stadium and a lot in the clubs and county teams

OAOB

OAOB wrote: »

From a quick scan of the drawings i'd imagine the top few rows of blocks will be removed and replaced with glass and that will provide the corporate viewing area, it's a half arsed design really.

My own opinion is that the county board shouldn't be investing massively in a complete stadium upgrade. I love the old stand, very few bad seats in it apart from those damn poles (in reality they don't bother me much once the game is going). Better facilities in behind is what the old stand needs. Anyone i know always prefers an old stand ticket which is a clear endorsement of it.
The new stand is what i think they should develop, it's a cheap structure and doesn't maximise the area of ground it takes up. I'd knock that and build a proper stand that has a proper corporate area.

I would hate to see us going down the Cork route and building a vanity project. I would much rather invest a bit in the stadium and a lot in the clubs and county teams

I think if Thurles pushed the boat out a small bit though they would possibly achieve a quicker payback then say the new PuC? Thurles will always get plenty of neutral games and its the spiritual home of hurling. We dont need to create a Wembley, but I think we could create a very decent and modern stadium for a reasonable price.

The Lost Sheep

Deleted User wrote: »

I think if Thurles pushed the boat out a small bit though they would possibly achieve a quicker payback then say the new PuC? Thurles will always get plenty of neutral games and its the spiritual home of hurling. We dont need to create a Wembley, but I think we could create a very decent and modern stadium for a reasonable price.

Thurles wont get anywhere near same revenue outside matchday that PuC can. PuCwill get concerts and Semple just wont especially on back of feile last September ....
You say not to create a Wembley which means what exactly? And what kind of stadium would you be basing anew stadium on?

shmeee

Deleted User wrote: »

Do we need a gym faciltity in the actual stadium? Surely this facility should be in Morris park where we train mostly at present?

The Tipp team tog out and use the dressing rooms in the Stadium even if training in Dr. Morris most of the time. The Tipp County Board are currently paying to use a gym facility beside the Stadium. This will eliminate all that and have player access to a gym right on site.

This development is a long way off yet, planning granted but God knows when it will get completed. Like the way we are still waiting for the All Weather pitches in Thurles!

The Lost Sheep

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Thurles wont get anywhere near same revenue outside matchday that PuC can. PuCwill get concerts and Semple just wont especially on back of feile last September ....
You say not to create a Wembley which means what exactly? And what kind of stadium would you be basing anew stadium on?

Well obviously my use of Wembley was an exaggeration as in dont overrun the costs into eye-watering figures (anything over 100m). Many smart stadium designs have been created for a reasonably modest sum. In Thurles case, it doesnt have to be an immediate overhaul, it can be done in stages. Cork on the other hand needed to be knocked as the old stadium was a death trap. Kilkenny built a state of the art seated terrace for just a few million.

Thurles doesnt need concerts. It's a more neutral venue that can attract more games than Cork which tbh is a white elephant at the bottom of the country (concerts or no concerts). If Cork is such a bigger attraction than Thurles then why hasnt it hosted a Munster final yet?

Mantis Toboggan

https://twitter.com/BrophShane/status/1255162163192307717?s=09

Mantis Toboggan

Lads pick your best tipp team here as per team sheet.

I'd go with..

Cummins

Barrett
Philip Maher
Mickey Cahill

Eamon Corcoran
Ronan
Paidie

Brendan Maher
Tommy Dunne

Michael cleary
Declan Ryan
Larry corbett

Eoin Kelly
Seamie
Nickey

Can't believe I've left out Noel, John Leahy & Pat Fox.

Joe_ Public

Cummins
Barrett Ronan Maher Cahill
Conal Bobby Paidi
Tommy Brendan
Skippy Bonner Lar
God Seamie Nicky

Leaving out Noel, bubbles and deccie ryan absolute heart churning.

robbiezero

Cummins - No contest here.

Barrett - (Stapleton not too far behind, a fine Tipp career, but Barrett has been one of the best in the country over last few years.

Ronan - (largely because I have to fit in Noel and Brendan in this team. Paul Curran abit unlucky, had a great career and very solid full back and we really struggled here when he left, but Ronans best in 2016 and 2019 is better than any of the others, could be a player of a generation for Tipp if he keeps his form).

Cahill - probably the standout here in one of the weaker line ups.

Bonnar - No superstars here, tight call between Corcoran and Bonnar, but Bonnar had a very fine career from just out of minor in a Tipp jersey and just shades it for me.

Brendan - Player of a generation, though mostly not in this position.

Paudie - Easy. One of the all time greats and would make any Tipp 15 no matter the criteria.

Tommy Dunne - The stand out candidate here. Class hurler, outstanding in 2001.

Noel McGrath - One of my favourite Tipp players, A prodigy since minor, and probably never really got a lot of the credit he deserved as even on a quiet day he would almost always hit 3 or 4 from play. A revelation at midfield last year and probably the best player in the country.

Michael Cleary - Standout candidate here. A class player.

Declan Ryan - With Noel gone, he is the standout here, long and illustrious career in the Jersey with an AI in 3 decades.

Lar - Might be some recency bias but picking Lar here. Not as many good years as the likes of Leahy, but he was better than Leahy at his best and the 3 years of 2009 -> 2011, he was just different gravy and not too many Tipp forwards have had a better spell than those 3 years.

FF line just picks itself really.
Kelly, Callanan and English are 3 of the all time greats.

Joe_ Public

I'm still sick leaving Noel out, my hurler of the year last year and one of the most artful, dextrous hurlers I've seen. If i could justify putting Brendan at 6, it would free up 8 for Noel but Bobby Ryan was a colossus for us in his day, never the slickest or quickest, but a phenomenal reader of the game and towering inspiration. No way i could leave him out.

robbiezero

Joe_ Public wrote: »

I'm still sick leaving Noel out, my hurler of the year last year and one of the most artful, dextrous hurlers I've seen. If i could justify putting Brendan at 6, it would free up 8 for Noel but Bobby Ryan was a colossus for us in his day, never the slickest or quickest, but a phenomenal reader of the game and towering inspiration. No way i could leave him out.

Was young at the time, but I wouldn't remember Bobby as being one of our standouts for the period. Very solid, ferocious competitor, a real stopper and solved a problem position for us. Somewhat similar to David Kennedy. but might be some recency bias and I was young at the time, but I wouldn't have had him up there with the likes of Noel, Brendan etc.

One thing that makes it harder to pick the players from previous eras like the 90s is how much more we see of the modern players.
Like Nicky English has 35 champ appearances in 15 years. Paudie and Noel have 54 and 52 in 10. Some years we only saw them play 1 championship game.

Joe_ Public

robbiezero wrote: »

Was young at the time, but I wouldn't remember Bobby as being one of our standouts for the period. Very solid, ferocious competitor, a real stopper and solved a problem position for us. Somewhat similar to David Kennedy. but might be some recency bias and I was young at the time, but I wouldn't have had him up there with the likes of Noel, Brendan etc.

One thing that makes it harder to pick the players from previous eras like the 90s is how much more we see of the modern players.
Like Nicky English has 35 champ appearances in 15 years. Paudie and Noel have 54 and 52 in 10. Some years we only saw them play 1 championship game.

To my mind Bobby did what centre backs did that time, they stopped and held the line and provided assurance for those around and behind them. He was never going to do a Paidi, bursting clear and over the bar from 70 yards. Conal Bonnar was a far purer hurler, as was the unfortunate John Kennedy, but Bobby was the heartbeat of that team for me. Thats just my memory of it anyway.

You're right though about it being hard to compare. It's a very imperfect science. I have Bonner over Deccie and not sure i have that right at all.

Edit: it wasnt about picking Bobby over Noel per se, just the way the positions dictated. If brendan was available at 5, there'd have been no issue. Conal, though a fine lovely hurler, would have missed out.

Chalk McHugh

1 B Cummins
2 M Cahill
3 R Curran
4 C Barret
5 B Maher
6 B Ryan
7 P Maher
8 N McGrath
9 T Dunne
10 Aidan Ryan
11 D Ryan
12 J Leahy
13 N English
14 S Callanan
15 E Kelly

John Leahy my favourite Tipp players is one of the first on the team sheet. A warrior, tough as nails, a leader of men. Going to war if i have Johny Leahy by my side i'm already feeling better. A fantastic hurler too. The player the opposition feared and loved to hate. He got a lot of punishment but could handle himself and dish out twice as much. A Tipperary legend.

Joe_ Public

That's one way of solving the Bobby/Brendan dilemma anyway!

Chalk McHugh

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

1 B Cummins
2 M Cahill
3 R Curran
4 C Barret
5 B Maher
6 B Ryan
7 P Maher
8 N McGrath
9 T Dunne
10 Aidan Ryan
11 D Ryan
12 J Leahy
13 N English
14 S Callanan
15 E Kelly

John Leahy my favourite Tipp players is one of the first on the team sheet. A warrior, tough as nails, a leader of men. Going to war if i have Johny Leahy by my side i'm already feeling better. A fantastic hurler too. The player the opposition feared and loved to hate. He got a lot of punishment but could handle himself and dish out twice as much. A Tipperary legend.

A few players unlucky to miss out so a B team would be

1 K Hogan
2 P Delaney
3 P Maher
4 P Shelly
5 C Bonnar
6 E Corcoran
7 J Kennedy
8 J Woodlock
9 P Fitzelle
10 M Cleary
11 J Carroll
12 Bonnar Maher
13 P Fox
14 Lar Corbett
15 J McGrath

iebamm2580

Good to see paudie maher and cummins recognized on Sunday games team of the year public poll. Dont know how we will replace paudie when hes gone. Always plays well on the big occasion. You know a players good when other counties complain about him.

robbiezero

iebamm2580 wrote: »

Good to see paudie maher and cummins recognized on Sunday games team of the year public poll. Dont know how we will replace paudie when hes gone. Always plays well on the big occasion. You know a players good when other counties complain about him.

An absolute colossus for Tipperary and Thurles Sarsfields. In a great era for Tipperary hurling with 3 All-Ireland and some of the best players to ever wear the shirt, he has been the best of the lot of them.

Rasputin11

robbiezero wrote: »

An absolute colossus for Tipperary and Thurles Sarsfields. In a great era for Tipperary hurling with 3 All-Ireland and some of the best players to ever wear the shirt, he has been the best of the lot of them.

Few fellas on the KK thread are perplexed that he's on it. 6 All Stars must not count for much.

Chalk McHugh

Was listening to that RTE podcast and although P Maher is in the top 3 of the people's vote the two guests on the show didn't have Paudie in their team. I think it was McManus from Antrim and Ken McGrath maybe (could be wrong). Both would have had JJ Delaney instead of Paudie.

Personally i would have JJ Delaney in there also but Paudie is a better player than Tommy Walsh in my opinion so my half back line would be

5 B Whelehan
6 P Maher
7 JJ Delaney

Then again i was listening to Anthony Daly's podcast of best Munster team of last 30 years i think and Daly, Mark Landers and TJ Ryan opted for Sean Og O Hailpin ahead of Paudie Maher at 7. That was laughable as O Hailpin not in the same class as Paudie.

Then again for the num 15 position Daly opted for Sparrow O Loughlin ahead of Eoin Kelly. My god it was farcical stuff

iebamm2580

Id have jj delaney in full back line ahead of corcoran maybe or o Sullivan who was hit and miss but has a few highlight reel clips.

Charlie69

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

Was listening to that RTE podcast and although P Maher is in the top 3 of the people's vote the two guests on the show didn't have Paudie in their team. I think it was McManus from Antrim and Ken McGrath maybe (could be wrong). Both would have had JJ Delaney instead of Paudie.

Personally i would have JJ Delaney in there also but Paudie is a better player than Tommy Walsh in my opinion so my half back line would be

5 B Whelehan
6 P Maher
7 JJ Delaney

Then again i was listening to Anthony Daly's podcast of best Munster team of last 30 years i think and Daly, Mark Landers and TJ Ryan opted for Sean Og O Hailpin ahead of Paudie Maher at 7. That was laughable as O Hailpin not in the same class as Paudie.

Then again for the num 15 position Daly opted for Sparrow O Loughlin ahead of Eoin Kelly. My god it was farcical stuff

For me it would be..

5 T Walsh
6 P Maher
7 JJ delaney

Brian Whelehan was a fantastic hurler but not a great defender... an alternative would be to move JJ into FB line as iebamm2580 suggests. JJ has to be on the team though. Tommy won an allstar on almost every line on the field chalk.

Chalk McHugh

Charlie69 wrote: »

For me it would be..

5 T Walsh
6 P Maher
7 JJ delaney

Brian Whelehan was a fantastic hurler but not a great defender... an alternative would be to move JJ into FB line as iebamm2580 suggests. JJ has to be on the team though. Tommy won an allstar on almost every line on the field chalk.

The problem with this RTE poll is JJ Delaney was nominated in the half back line. Otherwise i would have him in the full back line as ibamm suggested with Tommy wing back. That wasn't an option though for this team.

I realise Tommy won All Stars at corner back, wing back and wing forward and was a great player but for me Brian Whelehan was a better player and i'm sticking with

5 B Whelehan
6 P Maher
7 JJ Delaney

Charlie69

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

The problem with this RTE poll is JJ Delaney was nominated in the half back line. Otherwise i would have him in the full back line as ibamm suggested with Tommy wing back. That wasn't an option though for this team.

I realise Tommy won All Stars at corner back, wing back and wing forward and was a great player but for me Brian Whelehan was a better player and i'm sticking with

5 B Whelehan
6 P Maher
7 JJ Delaney

You're entitled to your opinion my friend... I couldn't agree though. I think Tommy won an allstar at midfeild also and is described by Tipps Eoin Kelly as the best hurler of all time.

Joe_ Public

Jaysus that's a tough one. All compelling claims, could not in all conscience leave Brian Whelehan out of any team. One of the greats. Brian Corcoran there or thereabouts too. Why Diarmuid O'Sullivan is in the discussion I'm not sure, would have Lohan above him for starters.

Charlie69

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Jaysus that's a tough one. All compelling claims, could not in all conscience leave Brian Whelehan out of any team. One of the greats. Brian Corcoran there or thereabouts too. Why Diarmuid O'Sullivan is in the discussion I'm not sure, would have Lohan above him for starters.

I suppose a bit like P Maher on the KK thread I wouldn't expect Tommy to get too many votes around here

Joe_ Public

Charlie69 wrote: »

I suppose a bit like P Maher on the KK thread I wouldn't expect Tommy to get too many votes around here

I don't believe i said anything about not 'voting' for Tommy?

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Charlie69 wrote: »

I suppose a bit like P Maher on the KK thread I wouldn't expect Tommy to get too many votes around here

i d have tommy in in no doubt i can see past my blue and gold glasses unlike some on the kk thread im sure you would agree, i again would consider leaving whelahan out and having jj paudie and tommy.