Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015 Mod Note Post #2331

bangkok

just want this season to be over now and van gaal gone. its actually depressing supporting and watching united this season.

Rossi IRL

Well this weekend will be a hard one to forget. Time to log off for the day.

bangkok

just imagine a 95th min welbeck winner next weekend!! :eek::eek:

Rayne Wooney

City to win and round off the weekend

I blame Van Gaal for everything

Adamocovic

bangkok wrote: »

just imagine a 95th min welbeck winner next weekend!! :eek::eek:

I'd rather not, I'd say this thread would implode.

bangkok

ferdinand not happy either...

"Welbeck........i aint even going to start.....happy for Welbz but how @manutd let him go"

Kerrydude1981

bangkok wrote: »

ferdinand not happy either...

"Welbeck........i aint even going to start.....happy for Welbz but how @manutd let him go"

Jesus he score's one goal and Rio is knee jerking

bangkok

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

Jesus he score's one goal and Rio is knee jerking

hes right though, was a crazy decision to sell him

Rayne Wooney

These comments only seem to pop up the rare time Welbeck actually scores a goal. I find it bizarre

He is continuing on his 1 in 4 goal scoring rate at Arsenal that he had at United and he's 26 this year

Bret Hart

bangkok wrote: »

just imagine a 95th min welbeck winner next weekend!! :eek::eek:

Poor Brucie and Hull if it comes too that.

Schwiiing

bangkok wrote: »

hes right though, was a crazy decision to sell him

Not for 16m it wasn't.

Hernandez Nani and RVP for pittance on the other hand...

Canadel

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

Jesus he score's one goal and Rio is knee jerking

It's not knee-jerk when people keep saying it, and when the player himself keeps reminding everyone that he's easily good enough to play for Man Utd.

The two most successful managers in Premier League history have had faith in Welbeck and have seen him as an integral part of their sides. As has the English international manager. I'd trust their knowledge of players and of the the game more than posters on here, or the majority of football fans.

bangkok

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

These comments only seem to pop up the rare time Welbeck actually scores a goal. I find it bizarre

He is continuing on his 1 in 4 goal scoring rate at Arsenal that he had at United and he's 26 this year

he is a good player though and played most of his games on the left. he was our quickest player and always threatened and stretched the opposition. he always gave 100% to the team. look what depay offers, he is a disgrace to the united shirt

Liam McPoyle

So, with the weekends results I predict Oranagagae2 to post at some point in the early hours of the morning to tell us how shyte we are.

Canadel will break out his Danny Wellbeck inflatable love doll and try to convince us that Danny should not have been sold because he is the best striker in the league.

I'm also pretty sure bangkok is trying to think of a way to blame Fellaini for yesterday's result too.


Think it's time to take a couple of days out from here.

RobertKK

It makes no difference that Welbeck scored, that goal was coming for Arsenal. It only seems worse because it is Welbeck.

jayo26

Canadel wrote: »

It's not knee-jerk when people keep saying it, and when the player himself keeps reminding everyone that he's easily good enough to play for Man Utd.

The two most successful managers in Premier League history have had faith in Welbeck and have seen him as an integral part of their sides. As has the English international manager. I'd trust their knowledge of players and of the the game more than posters on here, or the majority of football fans.

8 goals in 27 appearance for arsenal really does make it look like he is a top class player alright.

Welbeck is inconsistent always has been and always will be. Fergie had fait in Welbeck to do a high energy job on the wing or deeper but. He never had fait in him to play him leading the line in a massive game.

You talk him up as he is a 1 on 2 striker he will never be that.

Rayne Wooney

bangkok wrote: »

he is a good player though and played most of his games on the left. he was our quickest player and always threatened and stretched the opposition. he always gave 100% to the team. look what depay offers, he is a disgrace to the united shirt

He's a good-ish player, it's not hard to buy a better player than Danny Welbeck. I have no problem with the club trying to upgrade on players, sure it hasn't worked out so far with Depay, if Mourinho comes in I'm sure a wide player will be on his list and I'm sure he'll be better than Welbeck.

Martial is almost 6 years younger and is already a better player for me, if Arsenal had Martial and we had Welbeck I'd be extremely envious.

There are plenty of sticks to beat Van Gaal with selling Welbeck isn't one, selling Hernandez, Nani and Rafael on the other hand when we could really use all 3 now is another story

Liam McPoyle

RobertKK wrote: »

It makes no difference that Welbeck scored, that goal was coming for Arsenal. It only seems worse because it is Welbeck.

Its a nothing result to us after yesterday's dross anyway.

homerjay2005

We will go into the arsenal game in 7th place If west ham and Southampton both pick up a point each in their games.Watford beating Bournemouth puts them 2 behind us.

Lose to Arsenal and Liverpool are only 3 behind us with a game in hand. Watford will then be coming to old Trafford knowing a win puts them above us into 8th.

Quandary

Yesterday's result really was vomit inducing and watching what's happening today just drives it home even more.

mewe

Well this is wonderful.

Rayne Wooney

What score will Vila beat us in a few weeks?

Indestructable

I hate soccer, brutal weekend.

jayo26

Its their year.

irishfeen

I actually don't understand what the club is doing at all with regards LVG... how he is still there is amazing. Must be the only precieved top club who would let him there ... imagine if this was Barca, Real, Bayern, City etc..... he would have been gone months ago.

If they miss out on Pep, Ancelotti and Jose in order to continue with this ****e then I give up.

irishfeen

double post

Backstreet Moyes

Wellbeck played in from the left at United.

Martial or Wellbeck a real tough decision alright.

bangkok

Welbeck not good enough for United apparently but good enough for an arsenal team that are miles better than us..... :rolleyes:

Manutd_4life

Just curious, who do you think is our player of the season so far?

There really isn't anyone that sticks out by a country mile but it would probably be between De Gea and Martial for me.

Canadel

Smalling is in with a shout too.

I'd give it to De Gea. He's been consistently brilliant for the last few seasons. Deserves better in front of him.

Bret Hart

Now for City too win,in what would cap of a wonderful weekend of sport for us all.

bangkok

Business Cat wrote: »

So, with the weekends results I predict Oranagagae2 to post at some point in the early hours of the morning to tell us how shyte we are.

Canadel will break out his Danny Wellbeck inflatable love doll and try to convince us that Danny should not have been sold because he is the best striker in the league.

I'm also pretty sure bangkok is trying to think of a way to blame Fellaini for yesterday's result too.


Think it's time to take a couple of days out from here.

well no as he wasnt playing but he is one of the reasons we are where we are

Backstreet Moyes

bangkok wrote: »

Welbeck not good enough for United apparently but good enough for an arsenal team that are miles better than us..... :rolleyes:

Welbeck was sitting on the bench for Arsenal and then was injured for months. He came on off the bench today.

What exactly are you basing he is good enough for Arsenal from, because he came off the bench and scored.

Wellbeck plays from the left or up front, is he better than Martial or Rooney i wouldn't think so, so at United just like at Arsenal he would be sitting on the bench.

bangkok

Nuts102 wrote: »

Welbeck was sitting on the bench for Arsenal and then was injured for months. He came on off the bench today.

What exactly are you basing he is good enough for Arsenal from, because he came off the bench and scored.

Wellbeck plays from the left or up front, is he better than Martial or Rooney i wouldn't think so, so at United just like at Arsenal he would be sitting on the bench.

he was very good for them last season, played 34 games for them, ask any arsenal supporter they are extremely happy with him.

he would walk onto our team now, better than Lingard, Depay, Mata and would have been better than rooney was before christmas

Backstreet Moyes

bangkok wrote: »

he was very good for them last season, played 34 games for them, ask any arsenal supporter they are extremely happy with him.

he would walk onto our team now, better than Lingard, Depay, Mata and would have been better than rooney was before christmas

Lingard and Mata play from the right and Depay is a sub why are you mentioning them. Wellbeck was injured before christmas so again i don't know why you mentioned that.

Wellbeck plays in Martial or Rooney's place, so do you think Wellbeck would walk into the side instead of either of those.

Flint Fredstone

Welbeck doesn't feature in Arsenal's best 11. He wouldn't feature in United's either.
The lamenting is laughable, he stuck his head on a cross today and all of a sudden he's the answer to our prayers. Would he have the composure to take the chance Martial had yesterday? Probably not.
He's a bench player at a big club or a starter at a smaller club.

Mitch Connor

Flint Fredstone wrote: »

Welbeck doesn't feature in Arsenal's best 11. He wouldn't feature in United's either.
The lamenting is laughable, he stuck his head on a cross today and all of a sudden he's the answer to our prayers. Would he have the composure to take the chance Martial had yesterday? Probably not.
He's a bench player at a big club or a starter at a smaller club.

I agree - but our bench striker/forward is Will Keane. I'd prefer Welbeck.

The issue, imo, isn't the sale of Welbeck. Its the sale of Evans, Nani, Di Maria, RVP, Hernandez and RVP; with a lack of replacements coming in for those players.

Welbeck is another example of LVGs terrible squad management - which is partially why we are struggling so badly. Lack of options, lack of competition.

jayo26

Id be crying over the sale of Chicharito before id ever worry about wellbeck.

bangkok

Nuts102 wrote: »

Lingard and Mata play from the right and Depay is a sub why are you mentioning them. Wellbeck was injured before christmas so again i don't know why you mentioned that.

Wellbeck plays in Martial or Rooney's place, so do you think Wellbeck would walk into the side instead of either of those.

he can play just off striker as well. he also has played on the right and is a much better option than we have at the moment

Flint Fredstone

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I agree - but our bench striker/forward is Will Keane. I'd prefer Welbeck.

The issue, imo, isn't the sale of Welbeck. Its the sale of Evans, Nani, Di Maria, RVP, Hernandez and RVP; with a lack of replacements coming in for those players.

Welbeck is another example of LVGs terrible squad management - which is partially why we are struggling so badly. Lack of options, lack of competition.

Yeah, he would be grand to have available but at the time he was sold we had Rooney, RvP and Falcao. It didn't look so bad then, it's the start of this season that the real mistakes were made.
Can you imagine if the Martial deal had hit a snag at the last minute?

bangkok

Flint Fredstone wrote: »

Welbeck doesn't feature in Arsenal's best 11. He wouldn't feature in United's either.
The lamenting is laughable, he stuck his head on a cross today and all of a sudden he's the answer to our prayers. Would he have the composure to take the chance Martial had yesterday? Probably not.
He's a bench player at a big club or a starter at a smaller club.

he played 34 times for them last season.

he also was a first team starter for united in the previous 3 seasons before he was sold to arsenal so to say he is a bench player of a big club is simply not true.

a regular england starter as well

Flint Fredstone

bangkok wrote: »

he played 34 times for them last season.

he also was a first team starter for united in the previous 3 seasons before he was sold to arsenal so to say he is a bench player of a big club is simply not true.

a regular england starter as well

How many starts? How many of those games were Giroud or Walcott unavailable for?
Everyone fit and he doesn't start. I don't think you'll find many Arsenal fans that would pick him in their best 11.

Backstreet Moyes

bangkok wrote: »

he can play just off striker as well. he also has played on the right and is a much better option than we have at the moment

Rooney can play in cm and left wing it doesn't mean it's where his best position is.

Stop trying to move the goalposts like you always do.

You said he would walk into the United team and when asked who he would replace you start mentioning positions he doesn't play in.

bangkok

Flint Fredstone wrote: »

How many starts? How many of those games were Giroud or Walcott unavailable for?
Everyone fit and he doesn't start. I don't think you'll find many Arsenal fans that would pick him in their best 11.

walcott is not even a starter at the moment. Joel Campbell was keeping him out of the team and now oxlade chamberlain is. When welbeck is 100% fit he will be a starter

bangkok

Nuts102 wrote: »

Rooney can play in cm and left wing it doesn't mean it's where his best position is.

Stop trying to move the goalposts like you always do.

You said he would walk into the United team and when asked who he would replace you start mentioning positions he doesn't play in.

ok then, you said mata and lingard play from the right, martial from the left and rooney up top. so who plays no 10?

Kerrydude1981

jayo26 wrote: »

Id be crying over the sale of Chicharito before id ever worry about wellbeck.

Wonder has Rio ever tweeted anything about him?

Mata is apparently the latest player to be linked with a move to China

bangkok

Flint Fredstone wrote: »

How many starts? How many of those games were Giroud or Walcott unavailable for?
Everyone fit and he doesn't start. I don't think you'll find many Arsenal fans that would pick him in their best 11.

27 starts

Backstreet Moyes

bangkok wrote: »

ok then, you said mata and lingard play from the right, martial from the left and rooney up top. so who plays no 10?

Herrera who is far better technically and a better finisher.

bangkok

Nuts102 wrote: »

Herrera who is far better technically and a better finisher.

who cant even get a game and looks very unhappy?

bangkok

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-united-star-marouane-fellaini-7367365

looks like this is the reason fellaini was dropped from the squad yesterday....