Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015 Mod Note Post #2331

Cona

Interesting... Below claims that Giggs would step in and SAF would provide assistance. I personally would like to see this come through at least til end of season

http://www.punditarena.com/football/english-football/jmurphy/top-journalist-makes-series-of-sensational-claims-regarding-manchester-united-situation/

martinr5232

brinty wrote:

Jesus above Mars bar there a touch of Miley Cyrus off you....

What did i miss ??

glued

Cona wrote: »

Interesting... Below claims that Giggs would step in and SAF would provide assistance. I personally would like to see this come through at least til end of season

http://www.punditarena.com/football/english-football/jmurphy/top-journalist-makes-series-of-sensational-claims-regarding-manchester-united-situation/

That would be a complete disaster. Giggs has proven nothing and I'd rather LVG than Giggs for the rest of the year.

Liam McPoyle

Pretty quiet in here for the last 24 hours or so.

That's interesting.

Professey Chin

Business Cat wrote: »

Pretty quiet in here for the last 24 hours or so.

That's interesting.

Mars Bar has brought peace to the thread. Its like an effective pope

Quandary

Cona wrote: »

Interesting... Below claims that Giggs would step in and SAF would provide assistance. I personally would like to see this come through at least til end of season

http://www.punditarena.com/football/english-football/jmurphy/top-journalist-makes-series-of-sensational-claims-regarding-manchester-united-situation/

I would much prefer if the club gave up on this romantic notion of Giggs ever taking over. There is nothing, not a single thing to suggest he should be managing one of the biggest clubs in the world. When you actually think about it, it seems more and more ludicrous. Imagine if Liverpool appointed Steven Gerrard to manage their club? It would be hilarious, because he has zero managerial experience or any type of track record apart from being a club legend.

I would be hugely underwhelmed to see Giggs get the job. Fair enough, there is a chance he might be a success but someone like Pep or Jose would have a far far higher chance of being successful than a young man with no experience.

Giggs is a risk that the club do not need to be taking at this stage. Let him go off like Neville and cut his managerial teeth somewhere else first.

bucketybuck

Quandary wrote: »

There is nothing, not a single thing to suggest he should be managing one of the biggest clubs in the world.

Its just the opposite actually. You could make a very strong case that all of our problems stem from the training field, not from some player mutiny or lack of quality, but simply from an inability to get the players gelling together and playing as a team.

Who has been heavily involved in coaching the club for the last 3 seasons? Giggs. And people want to put him in charge!!!

Lord TSC

Business Cat wrote: »

Pretty quiet in here for the last 24 hours or so.

That's interesting.

There has been a massive lack of communication from club and journalists over the last few days, since after the Stoke result.

Liam McPoyle

Dont see LVG going for the time being anyway.

With that being said, one would have to assume he will get backing for the transfer window.

Who is realistically available?

Big Rom would be the dream signing, followed by Kane but with both clubs doing well there is no reason for them to sell.

Back in for Mane?

Is there an available striker?

What about Berahino?

Sand

Mitch Connor wrote: »

So if your inferance is that Woodward/Glazers are in charge of the commercial aspects which is ok as long as they leave the football side to football people... who are the football people?

My inference is the Glazers hired Woodward to make them money from MUFC, not to run the training sessions. So, whilst fans might complain about the academy the Glazers are not fans. They could not care less where RVP or any other player places their kid.

Who is in charge of determining if the manager is doing a good enough job?
Who is in charge or negotiating transfers in and out of the club?
Who is in charge of negotiating contracts?
Who is in charge of hiring the academy staff?
Who is in charge of insuring the future direction of the academy?
Who is in charge of defining and pushing the long term vision of the club?

Answer: Ed Woodward.

So the football side of the club is not being left to football people - Woodward is the one in charge of it all. And THAT, imo, is the problem.

Well, lets remember who Woodward is. I'm not personally obsessed with the man, but I gather he is an investment banker. Not an ex-player. Not an FA insider. Not a coach or a kitman. On what grounds do you believe Woodward would determine if the manager is doing a good enough job? How would he know which academy staff to hire? Or how to setup a well running academy? Are the Glazers stupid people? Would they hire Woodward to make those decisions while being completely unqualified?

Those decisions are made at the club, no doubt, but I would wager Woodward and the Glazers rely on the advice of football people at the club - primarily the manager. *Maybe* Ferguson and Charlton.

After all, when Moyes arrived in a lot of Fergusons coaching staff at all levels and scouts were let go and replaced with Moyes people. The same happened when LVG arrived. Who made those staffing decisions? Woodward? Nope - he took direction from the manager as to who they wanted and who they did not and basically did the admin work. Same as goes for transfers and contracts. United do not have a continental director of football model. Ferguson would never have allowed it. The manager makes all those decisions, the chairman carries them out. That's the way its always worked. Bobby Charlton just acts as a figurehead and advisor.

And I find it bizarre that Woodward is being blamed for not fixing the broken academy and infrastructure handed over to him by Gill and Ferguson. He took over in the summer of 2013? The stories about RVP and Nevilles kids emerged in March 2014. So he should have fixed a problem left to fester for years in 9 months? It is an unreasonable level of criticism.

And regardless of if you agree or disagree its indisputable that Woodward is simply not being judged by the academy staff.

TheDoc wrote: »

Like, does he think he can just manage it all like Gill did for Ferguson, and just doesn't want to admit he cannot, or worse thinks he is but clearly isn't

Or does he want to implement a new structure, but is encountering resistance to change?

United are clearly behind the times with a Manager as footballing dictator model. I think they ought to go down the road of a continental director of football providing stability in squad management, infrastructure and style of football as managers change. I think it could even be a role for LVG to "move upstairs" to make way for Guardiola at the end of the season. But Woodward is definitely not a DoF candidate, and hes not being judged by that job spec because the club currently expects the manager to carry out those roles.

Quandary

Lukaku would be a dream signing alright. It's amazing that he's still only 22 :eek:

A nice pacy wide player would be great also.

Mitch Connor

Now that LVG hasn't been sacked after the norwich, stoke and chelsea run of 1 fecking point and 1 goal - he's here for the season; there is no doubt in my mind about that.

He isn't going to solve this crisis imo, and Woodward not pulling the trigger on him will go down in history as a terrible decision.

Lord TSC

I'd love Lukaku. Adore him.

But if we don't fix the issue behind the striker, there's no point getting him. We need a proper, destructive #10 in the Ozil mode, and a natural right winger capable of crossing the ball.

Mitch Connor

Sand wrote: »

My inference is the Glazers hired Woodward to make them money from MUFC, not to run the training sessions. So, whilst fans might complain about the academy the Glazers are not fans. They could not care less where RVP or any other player places their kid.



Well, lets remember who Woodward is. I'm not personally obsessed with the man, but I gather he is an investment banker. Not an ex-player. Not an FA insider. Not a coach or a kitman. On what grounds do you believe Woodward would determine if the manager is doing a good enough job? How would he know which academy staff to hire? Or how to setup a well running academy? Are the Glazers stupid people? Would they hire Woodward to make those decisions while being completely unqualified?

Those decisions are made at the club, no doubt, but I would wager Woodward and the Glazers rely on the advice of football people at the club - primarily the manager. *Maybe* Ferguson and Charlton.

After all, when Moyes arrived in a lot of Fergusons coaching staff at all levels and scouts were let go and replaced with Moyes people. The same happened when LVG arrived. Who made those staffing decisions? Woodward? Nope - he took direction from the manager as to who they wanted and who they did not and basically did the admin work. Same as goes for transfers and contracts. United do not have a continental director of football model. Ferguson would never have allowed it. The manager makes all those decisions, the chairman carries them out. That's the way its always worked. Bobby Charlton just acts as a figurehead and advisor.

And I find it bizarre that Woodward is being blamed for not fixing the broken academy and infrastructure handed over to him by Gill and Ferguson. He took over in the summer of 2013? The stories about RVP and Nevilles kids emerged in March 2014. So he should have fixed a problem left to fester for years in 9 months? It is an unreasonable level of criticism.

And regardless of if you agree or disagree its indisputable that Woodward is simply not being judged by the academy staff.



United are clearly behind the times with a Manager as footballing dictator model. I think they ought to go down the road of a continental director of football providing stability in squad management, infrastructure and style of football as managers change. I think it could even be a role for LVG to "move upstairs" to make way for Guardiola at the end of the season. But Woodward is definitely not a DoF candidate, and hes not being judged by that job spec because the club currently expects the manager to carry out those roles.

There is zero suggestions or information to back up any claim that the structures of the footballing side of the club are being directed by Fergie or Gill or anyone else who was previously involved in these decisons. ALL the information points to Woodward being the decision maker at the club. If you want to assert otherwise, please provide some proof rather than blind uninformed speculation of what you might wish it to be.

Woodward was in charge of the commerical activites prior to his promotion to CEO - why would the Glazers promote him to the same role? As I say, all information points to him being the chief person in charge of the club on a day to day basis.

I'm not saying Woodward should have solved the issue with the academy immediately - but NOW is not immediate. We are well into the third year of Woodward being the chief decision maker at the club and the academy structure has only been allowed to get worse under his stewardship - having lost the director at the start of the year and not even replaced him, never mind ordering a redesign of the antiquated structures.

I don't agree that it should be on LVG to reshape the youth structures at the club while also trying to fix the first team. There should be a specialist involved in fixing the youth system - a specialist that Woodward should have hired, but has not. He allowed the person that was in charge (and doing a bad job, imo) to leave without a replacement being found in the 10 months since it was announced.

United have no full time scouts - should it be up to LVG to hire them and organise them too? Or should the person in charge of United (woodward) take the lead in getting that sorted too?

As for remembering who woodward is - I know who he is - which is why I argue he should not be in such direct control of the footballing side of the club as he is (and that no evidence points to a different scenario). He should hire someone to take overall responsibility of the footballing vision of the club.

J. Marston

Quandary wrote: »

Lukaku would be a dream signing alright. It's amazing that he's still only 22 :eek:

A nice pacy wide player would be great also.

Got one of those last season and he was shít. Got one this season and he is shít.

We'll get one next season and guess what........he might be decent, I dunno.

tinofapples

Jesus , Mahrez playing the way he plays for Leicester would be fantastic at Old Trafford.

Sand

Mitch Connor wrote: »

There is zero suggestions or information to back up any claim that the structures of the footballing side of the club are being directed by Fergie or Gill or anyone else who was previously involved in these decisons.

That's why I said *maybe*. Its clear Fergie and Charlton have some influence. Ferguson got his man with Moyes. Charlton seems to have ruled Mourinho out. How strong or active their view is up for debate, but they have a voice.

What is very clear is that Woodward does not pick the players to sign, or the coaches to hire. He has no ability to make those decisions. The manager tells him what he needs. Woodward writes the cheques and does the admin. Just like Gill (another accountant) did before him. Unless you think Gill sat down and told Ferguson a thing or two about what players to sign, what tactics to play and how to coach youth players.

I'm not saying Woodward should have solved the issue with the academy immediately - but NOW is not immediate.

Germany decided they had a problem with their national football setup back 15 or so years ago. It took them 14 years to develop their infrastructure and bring through a world cup winning side. 14 years with clubs doing a lot of the day to day work. Chelsea have spent 10 years developing their academy. Man City have spent a similar time.

3 years is not even making a start in the level of patience and planning required. And that assumes there is a continuity to the plan - there is not at United, because like Ferguson, the manager is expected to provide that direction. There has been a lot of chop and change in the last 3 years. More chop and change is not the answer.

I don't agree that it should be on LVG to reshape the youth structures at the club while also trying to fix the first team. There should be a specialist involved in fixing the youth system - a specialist that Woodward should have hired, but has not. He allowed the person that was in charge (and doing a bad job, imo) to leave without a replacement being found in the 10 months since it was announced.

Fully agreed, there ought to be a DoF. But there never has been a DoF of that nature at United - it has always been on the manager (i.e. Ferguson) to control and direct all football matters.

United have no full time scouts - should it be up to LVG to hire them and organise them too? Or should the person in charge of United (woodward) take the lead in getting that sorted too?

Ferguson picked the scouts. His own brother was a United scout, signed after he lost his job at Hibernians. Again, you're judging Woodward in a fashion that Gill was never judged.

As for remembering who woodward is - I know who he is - which is why I argue he should not be in such direct control of the footballing side of the club as he is (and that no evidence points to a different scenario). He should hire someone to take overall responsibility of the footballing vision of the club.

Completely agree someone should be appointed to take overall responsibility of the footballing vision of the club away from the manager (not Woodward). But that again is a huge shift in how the club is organised. And I am not shocked that its not quickly introduced, especially if the football people at the club are possibly hostile to it for fear of clashes between the manager and the DoF.

homerjay2005

Lord TSC wrote: »

I'd love Lukaku. Adore him.

But if we don't fix the issue behind the striker, there's no point getting him. We need a proper, destructive #10 in the Ozil mode, and a natural right winger capable of crossing the ball.

taking into account our current run, the s*ite football, the constant stories of players unrest with the manager, the uncertainty about the managers future, the lack of champions league football, our league position and the chance of us missing out on top 4 being very realistic now, would any top player be willing to sign for United right now?

we need 3 signings, the reality is we probably wont get anything that we need and as usual the club will go out and do something stupid like sign a left back, the one position in the club we actually have plenty of players to play there.

everybody is pinning their hopes on signings, but every passing day suggests that we wont get the players we need, once again. Lukaku would be great signing and would be realistic, but i cant see us being able to get that deal done. im just not concinved that Mane would improve us to the level needed and after that, who else is there realistic that would be attainable?

Cantona's Collars

Unless Woodward has something up his sleeve,I can't see any reason why LVG should stay on.Another goalless performance against a team who for the most part played like they deserved to be 14th in the league should have been his last hurrah.
Going on form,Woodward will give it large and we'll end up with Giggs and the unveiling of a partnership with some Far Eastern bin collection service while the big guns in management take charge at our rivals.
LVG was brought in to clean up after Moyes but now has turned into a carbon copy of him,even the tactic of "get it wide,cross it in" is our default attack.The next manager shouldn't be a gamble,it should be a man who delivers success and in double quick time,2 seasons of sh1te is enough to be called transition,3 is downright bollix by those running the club.

The_Kew_Tour

I don't think we need to buy many, if any players.

We have a better squad then many suggest, its more then good enough to be reaching last 16 of CL and a title challenge, with least a decent Cup run.

bangkok

Mitch Connor wrote: »

It could simply be that the people involved in the club don't know what a proper football structure should look like - given we never looked at one under Fergie.

how do you know this?

it was fergie when he came in that built the whole club up from the academy, what was going on behind the scenes right up to the first team

homerjay2005

just heard an interesting theory -

the relationship between LVG and Giggs has deteriorated completely over the last two months, Giggs no longer has any say in tactics or training.

Giggs has been "leaking" stories to the press about LVG being 2 games away from the sack.

Giggs then did the touchline show against Norwich, just to add further pressure on LVG.

Giggs has the majority of players on his side and its causing huge moral issues in the camp and a split with some of LVG players.

LVG would want to get rid of Giggs, but cant considering the current circumstances.

could be complete b*llix of course but its certainly a possibility.

homerjay2005

bangkok wrote: »

how do you know this?

it was fergie when he came in that built the whole club up from the academy, what was going on behind the scenes right up to the first team

wasnt it Daniel Taylor that said in 2013 that the club was being run like a Sunday pub team?

The_Kew_Tour

homerjay2005 wrote: »

just heard an interesting theory -

the relationship between LVG and Giggs has deteriorated completely over the last two months, Giggs no longer has any say in tactics or training.

Giggs has been "leaking" stories to the press about LVG being 2 games away from the sack.

Giggs then did the touchline show against Norwich, just to add further pressure on LVG.

Giggs has the majority of players on his side and its causing huge moral issues in the camp and a split with some of LVG players.

LVG would want to get rid of Giggs, but cant considering the current circumstances.

could be complete b*llix of course but its certainly a possibility.

If that's true, that's Giggs acting the bolloix.

That's him looking after himself and making himself look good.

That's IF it is true

homerjay2005

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I don't think we need to buy many, if any players.

We have a better squad then many suggest, its more then good enough to be reaching last 16 of CL and a title challenge, with least a decent Cup run.

to have a title challenge, we need 3 top class players for our first 11 - a CB, a winger and a striker.

we also need another creative CM and a back up right back so at the moment, this squad needs at least 5 players in the summer and thats not even taking into account the inevitable players that will leave if LVG is still around.

and all of the above is assuming that Mata, Rooney, Darmian, Depay regain their form and Shaw comes back to his full potential.

Hococop

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

If that's true, that's Giggs acting the bolloix.

That's him looking after himself and making himself look good.

That's IF it is true

Did he do similar with Moyes?

homerjay2005

Hococop wrote: »

Did he do similar with Moyes?

to be honest, id say there was 20+ of them at it with Moyes not just Giggs. according to the likes of Mitten, Red Issue and several more, the players didnt want Moyes from day 1 and while they gave him a chance, they were acting the b*llix from October on.

the fact that about 20 of them have been thrown out, suggests that Giggs wasnt the main problem back then though its baffling how it appears that LVG was forced to take Giggs on as his assistant.

The_Kew_Tour

Hococop wrote: »

Did he do similar with Moyes?

I have no idea

StringerBell

Logged in a couple of times since the match but the internet was cat with the travelling so didn't get to read much or post.

My thoughts on the game itself, the atmosphere was excellent. It was iffy at the start and tentative/odd but once the team showed what kind of football it was going to be play, come on the front foot and take the game to Chelsea the crowd got right behind them and it was great to be part of.

Van Gaal got support, but I would say divided, I dunno how to explain it, its like I think everybody wants him to succeed, to turn the situation around, and would love to get behind that idea but some are just too damaged right now confidence wise and it will take a lot to get them on side.

Some of the chances we created, and missed were great. Courtouis was excellent in the Chelsea goal and Terry was on top form. Still no excuse to not have put at least one of them away, toward the end the very encouraging CBJ put across a lovely ball for Rooney to score one of those iconic big time winning goals of his but he made a bollix of it sadly.

Herrera should have scored too, I can't believe he didn't, hit the woodwork a couple of times and should have had at the very least 1 penalty, if it was at the bridge and the other way around I guarantee Chelsea would have been awarded a penalty for the handball for certain. Harsh or not it was a ****in peno.

Still some defensive ****eness, Blind would give you ire sometimes and when Herrera misjudged the header and Darmian forgot he was a right back I was sure Matic was gonna sicken me but thankfully he ****ed it up, De Gea made a couple of super saves to keep them out too, Terry getting a free header in the first half from a corner was absolutely criminal, Rooney it was picking him up, nowhere near him. Whether they played for the manager Monday or played out of wounded pride, it was encouraging and if that level of effort can be kept up, and intensity/desire to play forward, get on the front foot, we will have a good second half of the season.

In the second half they began to tire, which is understandable with the pace they started at and the limited time to recover from the last game on a stretched squad. I think we flew out of the traps hoping to catch Chelsea early and put the game to bed early, and really it nearly worked but in the end it was another game we failed to score and another game we failed to win. It was an improvement though of course and tactically it was different to what I have seen on telly this year, but maybe it just looked different in the flesh, I'll watch a replay of the game over the next couple of days.

That's probably enough for now

bangkok

homerjay2005 wrote: »

wasnt it Daniel Taylor that said in 2013 that the club was being run like a Sunday pub team?

if he said that he knows nothing about United

Rob Thomas

homerjay2005 wrote: »

to be honest, id say there was 20+ of them at it with Moyes not just Giggs. according to the likes of Mitten, Red Issue and several more, the players didnt want Moyes from day 1 and while they gave him a chance, they were acting the b*llix from October on.

the fact that about 20 of them have been thrown out, suggests that Giggs wasnt the main problem back then though its baffling how it appears that LVG was forced to take Giggs on as his assistant.

I think Giggs being kept on as LVGs assistant was the "building for the future" aspiration.

IIRC the brief for LVG was to steady the ship and build the squad back to competing at the top level and that over the 3 years groom Giggs as his successor. Probably suited LVG as he always said he was retiring once his contract was up and he had no interest in staying beyond that.

I think the new man, when he comes in, will move Giggs on.

Robson99

StringerBell wrote: »

Some of the chances we created, and missed were great. Courtouis was excellent in the Chelsea goal and Terry was on top form. Still no excuse to not have put at least one of them away, toward the end the very encouraging CBJ put across a lovely ball for Rooney to score one of those iconic big time winning goals of his but he made a bollix of it sadly.

Herrera should have scored too, I can't believe he didn't, hit the woodwork a couple of times and should have had at the very least 1 penalty, if it was at the bridge and the other way around I guarantee Chelsea would have been awarded a penalty for the handball for certain. Harsh or not it was a ****in peno.

Still some defensive ****eness, Blind would give you ire sometimes and when Herrera misjudged the header and Darmian forgot he was a right back I was sure Matic was gonna sicken me but thankfully he ****ed it up, De Gea made a couple of super saves to keep them out too, Terry getting a free header in the first half from a corner was absolutely criminal, Rooney it was picking him up, nowhere near him. Whether they played for the manager Monday or played out of wounded pride, it was encouraging and if that level of effort can be kept up, and intensity/desire to play forward, get on the front foot, we will have a good second half of the season.

In the second half they began to tire, which is understandable with the pace they started at and the limited time to recover from the last game on a stretched squad. I think we flew out of the traps hoping to catch Chelsea early and put the game to bed early, and really it nearly worked but in the end it was another game we failed to score and another game we failed to win. It was an improvement though of course and tactically it was different to what I have seen on telly this year, but maybe it just looked different in the flesh, I'll watch a replay of the game over the next couple of days.

That's probably enough for now

And De Gea was our man of the match. We could have been beaten just as easily against a piss poor Chelsea team

bangkok

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I don't think we need to buy many, if any players.

We have a better squad then many suggest, its more then good enough to be reaching last 16 of CL and a title challenge, with least a decent Cup run.

we need to aiming much higher that that. we need a world class/potential world class attacking midfielder and another striker at least

Lord TSC

Are we due a press conference tomorrow for the Swansea game?

StringerBell

I hear there was some twat out selling Jose Mourinho Man United scarves? That is ****ing embarrassing.

posturingpat

Anyone else heard rumours about Depays behavior off field?
I've heard from quite few people in and around Manchester thatit's an open secret that he's far from being a model pro? These stories tend to come out anytime a young player is struggling for form though so hard to know what to believe....?

IamtheWalrus

StringerBell wrote: »

I hear there was some twat out selling Jose Mourinho Man United scarves? That is ****ing embarrassing.

Is it really when he was just trying to make money? It's the people (if any) who bought them that are embarrassing.

The_Kew_Tour

3 things are a banker when your team are doing ****

1. Boardroom spilt
2. Management spilt
3. Players out till all hours riding and smoking

Repeat for any team

bangkok

posturingpat wrote: »

Anyone else heard rumours about Depays behavior off field?
I've heard from quite few people in and around Manchester thatit's an open secret that he's far from being a model pro? These stories tend to come out anytime a young player is struggling for form though so hard to know what to believe....?

that was a few months ago. giggs had a few words with him back then

newballsplease

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I don't think we need to buy many, if any players.

We have a better squad then many suggest, its more then good enough to be reaching last 16 of CL and a title challenge, with least a decent Cup run.

How can you say that? Desperate for a pacy right winger and main striker. Could add a central defender aswell.

Hococop

In this January window, what do we need? If we got a defender, mane and a cheap striker like Austin would that do us?

The_Kew_Tour

newballsplease wrote: »

How can you say that? Desperate for a pacy right winger and main striker. Could add a central defender aswell.

3 players ain't exactly a lot in all honesty

bangkok

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

3 players ain't exactly a lot in all honesty

3 class players though.

this league alone, Lukaku, Mahrez and Stones would all cost combined more than 120m

bangkok

Hococop wrote: »

In this January window, what do we need? If we got a defender, mane and a cheap striker like Austin would that do us?

charlie austin in a United jersey is actually laughable

Bleating Lamb

posturingpat wrote: »

Anyone else heard rumours about Depays behavior off field?
I've heard from quite few people in and around Manchester thatit's an open secret that he's far from being a model pro? These stories tend to come out anytime a young player is struggling for form though so hard to know what to believe....?

Article in the Sunday independent how Depay arrives at training lately with a Bentley convertible worth 240k sterling......seemingly the likes of Carrick let him know that was showboating his new found wealth.

The_Kew_Tour

Tbf you could say about Barca, Bayern, Madrid or even City.

Rayne Wooney

Half watching a documentary on sky with some ex United players from the 90s talking, ruthless winners the lot of them

It's tough listening to the likes of Mata and co talking about trying harder and luck etc, how far we have fallen

Hococop

bangkok wrote: »

charlie austin in a United jersey is actually laughable

I know we need a long term striker like Kane or lukaku, but we would have to pay £50 million and they probably wouldn't move in January, who should we go for? Only reason I mentioned Austin is I couldn't see him as a starter more a Hernandez role as an impact sub, it would stop lvg using fellaini as a plan b and he could stay more in the MF role

Rossi IRL

Hococop wrote: »

striker like Austin would that do us?

Javier Hernandez says hello, twice the player Austin will ever be and LVG just discarded him.

Just asking, how many goals does austin have in the championship this season? I feal that that is his level.

newballsplease

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

3 players ain't exactly a lot in all honesty

You said if any.... bizarre

Anyway... 3 essential players and you could add a few more.