Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015 Mod Note Post #2331

homerjay2005

bucketybuck wrote: »

The story doesn't add up.

of course it does, it makes perfect sense. Woodward sees this as a blip and thinks LVG can turn this around.

its not so long ago he was saying everything was ok, the fans were happy and those who complained about the football should feel guilty for doing so.

Lord TSC

homerjay2005 wrote: »

of course it does, it makes perfect sense. Woodward sees this as a blip and thinks LVG can turn this around.

its not so long ago he was saying everything was ok, the fans were happy and those who complained about the football should feel guilty for doing so.

According to the same sources he is calling BS on, right?

homerjay2005

Liam O wrote: »

When Rooney and Martial have played up front that has been how it is and the team struggle because of it. Problem is there is no Ozil or Silva there to play that role.

eh? Rooney and Martial have played no more than 1 or 2 games "up front" together this season, anytime the two have been central, Rooney normally has been playing much deeper, in this 10 role. normally he shifts Martial out wide left lately.

i recall one game when it was tried and we actually played really well, then he reverted to Martial out wide again and a #10 off Rooney such as Fellaini. He also tried Memphis in there, Adnan earlier in the season, mata in 3 or 4 games, Herrera in a few also.

to say that playing two strikers has lead to struggles is complete and utter nonsense as its not even been allowed to become a problem. put 2 goal scorers into that team, play two pacey wide players off them with Morgan and Herrera sitting behind them and you will notice a huge improvement in our goal scoring ratio.

problem is, right now we dont have any goal scorers in the team as we shipped them out during the summer and left them with a 19 year old who as yet has not become a top class scorer and a player who once was, but no longer is.

Rossi IRL

Watching Valencia on SS1.

They had a poor first half but are playing some nice stuff now in the 2nd half.

This Andre Gomes guy looks the part for Valencia.

SlickRic

It doesn't make sense.

Woodward is not going to keep LVG because he's scared of being labelled as hiring a second failure. That's ludicrous.

Surely it's a bigger risk, if he knows LVG isn't the right manager, to keep him and set the club back even further? Surely it's worse to be labelled as the guy who did that?

it's BS.

Flint Fredstone

People put too much stock in what these "sources" say. Red Issue is a crass rag.

Pro. F

Hurler85 wrote: »

Any chance Gill might come back?!

Just in case it wasn't clear, I doubt that Woodward is any less qualified for - or skilled at - the job than Gill was.

Lord TSC

Pro. F wrote: »

Just in case it wasn't clear, I doubt that Woodward is any less qualified for - or skilled at - the job than Gill was.

That's the joys of being sarcastic in text. Need a smilie face to make it obvious :P

newballsplease

Anyone see the press conf ?

LVG said something along the lines of, if you dont count December, we had a good year.

The man has lost it.

October lost 3-0 to Arsenal. 3-0 win against Everton and 4 draws(0-0 x3) and lost on penalties to be Knocked out of a cup in one of those draws !

homerjay2005

Pro. F wrote: »

Just in case it wasn't clear, I doubt that Woodward is any less qualified for - or skilled at - the job than Gill was.

theres a huge difference between Gills rise to the CE job and Woodwards -

Gill was hired as director of finance and then within 3 years was promoted to deputy CE while at the same time, keeping his directorship.

he was promoted again within a year of that to group CEO and within 2 years of that, he went to overall club CEO - he earned his promotions in the normal way, going through each stage of the business and getting natural progression and time in each role.

Woodward on the other hand is purely a money man who had the responsibility of commercial and media activity before being moved to the board in 2012. he had 1 year experience at this level before becoming CEO of one of the biggest football clubs in the world.

Gill got it because he was best for the job in every since, Woodward got it because he was a glazer man and because the club had shifted from a football based business, to a financial priority.

at this stage of his CEO career, Gill was already on the board of the FA and earmarked for big things - i think we both know in the football sense, that Ed Woodward will be nowhere near this anytime soon. he may get a great job at a huge global company like Mcdonalds or Pepsi, but in the football world he is nowhere near the level Gill was at when he took the job.

StringerBell

Probably meant up being top of the league

StringerBell

homerjay2005 wrote: »

theres a huge difference between Gills rise to the CE job and Woodwards -

Gill was hired as director of finance and then within 3 years was promoted to deputy CE while at the same time, keeping his directorship.

he was promoted again within a year of that to group CEO and within 2 years of that, he went to overall club CEO - he earned his promotions in the normal way, going through each stage of the business and getting natural progression and time in each role.

Woodward on the other hand is purely a money man who had the responsibility of commercial and media activity before being moved to the board in 2012. he had 1 year experience at this level before becoming CEO of one of the biggest football clubs in the world.

Gill got it because he was best for the job in every since, Woodward got it because he was a glazer man and because the club had shifted from a football based business, to a financial priority.

at this stage of his CEO career, Gill was already on the board of the FA and earmarked for big things - i think we both know in the football sense, that Ed Woodward will be nowhere near this anytime soon. he may get a great job at a huge global company like Mcdonalds or Pepsi, but in the football world he is nowhere near the level Gill was at when he took the job.

Speculation, and conjecture for the most part, but as long as you know that I guess that's cool. I would point out though, that no matter how deluded one may be, surely you can't be under the impression Manchester United was a "football based business" whatever that means under Gill but a "financial priority" under Woodward.

Woodie got the job in large part to him being the guy that brokered the deal in large part would be a fair assumption, and proving he has great talent, ability and experience in the higher end of the financial market.

Vertigo100

Wait a minute. Don't you have to pay for access to the red issue forum? Isn't that what the "real" fans do?

Must be true.

gosplan

Never heard of it before but that Red Issue thing seems to have a longing for a Hartchester United style club.

Cantona's Collars

Will Keane has been recalled from his loan at Preston.

v3ttel

Anybody who reads the vomit that is Red Issue deserves to be lied to. They have zero credibility and no contacts within the club.

Just flick back to their timeline when Malcolm Glazer died to see what sort of classless people run it.

beno619

zerks wrote: »

Will Keane has been recalled from his loan at Preston.

Forgot he was still on our books, how did he get on this season ?

Nalz

v3ttel wrote: »

Anybody who reads the vomit that is Red Issue deserves to be lied to. They have zero credibility and no contacts within the club.

Just flick back to their timeline when Malcolm Glazer died to see what sort of classless people run it.

+1 gazillion

Utter tripe

Nalz

zerks wrote: »

Will Keane has been recalled from his loan at Preston.

Recalled or loan period ended?

StringerBell

zerks wrote: »

Will Keane has been recalled from his loan at Preston.

Did he pick up an injury? Was he getting any game time?

I love Will Keane, such a shame about the injury that stunted his development so much, doubt he is being recalled with a view to having anything to do with the first team just hope he hasn't picked up another serious injury.

Just read it, great speculation there from one of the rags, called back in search of goals. Yeah, right...

Maybe he is being brought back in for numbers? Prefer to leave Wilson on loan to develop? I dunno, just thinking out loud, he hasn't exactly set the world alight at Preston so barring injury, or the loan period ending, I don't see it of any significance.

Cantona's Collars

Nalz wrote: »

Recalled or loan period ended?

Seems like he held a meeting with LVG the other day and asked about coming back to United.

Korat

I wish you all a happy new year.

Let's hope we've something to celebrate in 2016.

Cantona's Collars

Onda cero saying Isco has submitted a transfer request.If so then we should be all over this,never mind Woody going around saying we've bid for Neymar,Bale and Messi while we end up with Naismith.

Flint Fredstone

Among all the doom and gloom of the last while, there's been some good memories in 2015.

It hasn't been all that bad, apart from December of course :pac:

This video cheered me up a bit, hopefully we can have some more of these moments sooner rather than later.

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Features/2015/Dec/2015-video-review-with-best-manchester-united-goal-result-performance-player-moment.aspx?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=ManUtd

Lord TSC

zerks wrote: »

Onda cero saying Isco has submitted a transfer request.If so then we should be all over this,never mind Woody going around saying we've bid for Neymar,Bale and Messi while we end up with Naismith.

Isco would be a great player, and if he's handed in a transfer request, should be easily gettable. Would love him.

StringerBell

zerks wrote: »

Onda cero saying Isco has submitted a transfer request.If so then we should be all over this,never mind Woody going around saying we've bid for Neymar,Bale and Messi while we end up with Naismith.

Would love Isco.

Cantona's Collars

Perez is rumoured to be turning his gaze to Courtois,might be good news for us,

http://www.donbalon.com/noticia/detalle/20238/florentino-perez-tiene-un-nuevo-objetivo-a-tiro-para-la-porteria-del-madrid

Cantona's Collars

Tell me this isn't one of us.....http://www.joe.ie/sport/video-manchester-united-fan-from-sligo-forced-to-drink-own-urine-after-losing-bet-about-louis-

Not sure if it was mentioned here but I read somewhere that Sam Johnstone is going back out on loan, I liked the look of him during preseason.

LVG and Valdes have hardly made up again more likely a loan that can be recalled?

StringerBell

He needs to be playing, insert a recall clause if needs be but a loan is definitely a good move for him.

Bleating Lamb

............our starting lineup and manager for first game of next season.....having struggled to 4th place finish under LVG

Manager -Pep G.

De Gea
Darmian Smalling Hummels Shaw
Mahrez Schneiderlin Herrera Depay
Isco
Martial




If Carlsberg could do dreams:)

jayo26

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

............our starting lineup and manager for first game of next season.....having struggled to 4th place finish under LVG

Manager -Pep G.

De Gea
Darmian Smalling Hummels Shaw
Mahrez Schneiderlin Herrera Depay
Isco
Martial




If Carlsberg could do dreams:)

Why did you leave neymar on the bench??

Bleating Lamb

jayo26 wrote: »

Why did you leave neymar on the bench??

We didn't sign him you dummy!.....Pep reckoned Messi was a better fit to the squad,unfortunately he got injured in final pre season friendly against Accrington Stanley.

jayo26

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

We didn't sign him you dummy!.....Pep reckoned Messi was a better fit to the squad,unfortunately he got injured in final pre season friendly against Accrington Stanley.

May call ronaldo back from his season long loan to Salford so,

user2011

jayo26 wrote: »

May call ronaldo back from his season long loan to Salford so,

Heard on the grape vine Rooney's form on the bench is stalling such a move.

Trigger

Isco.....




That is all....

Trigger

beno619 wrote: »

Forgot he was still on our books, how did he get on this season ?

Scored once in 20 appearances..

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(I have no life) :eek:

Thepoet85

Happy new year lads. Hopefully this is the year we can kick on and get a real challenge for the title mounted.

Enjoy your night

jayo26

Happy new year ye mad cranky fookers here's to another year of bitching.

Lord TSC

GOD! Have we not signed anyone yet? Disgrace!

:P

Thepoet85

Lord TSC wrote:

GOD! Have we not signed anyone yet? Disgrace!

Moyes out!!

Trigger

Jaysus there is some amount of us with no lives!

jayo26

Lord TSC wrote: »

GOD! Have we not signed anyone yet? Disgrace!

:P

Taking George Weahs cousin on trial he ment to be the next superstar.

jayo26

astradave wrote: »

Jaysus there is some amount of us with no lives!

The 1st is a way better night To be out I always find, tonight is too messy.

Trigger

Not heading out till Saturday myself, let the heads roll tonight and tomorrow!

Anyone reckon we will sign someone in the first week of the Transfer window.

jayo26

astradave wrote: »

Not heading out till Saturday myself, let the heads roll tonight and tomorrow!

Anyone reckon we will sign someone in the first week of the Transfer window.

Hard to know anderson is the only person been linked so unless there is a surprise

Lord TSC

astradave wrote: »

Not heading out till Saturday myself, let the heads roll tonight and tomorrow!

Anyone reckon we will sign someone in the first week of the Transfer window.

Jose, hopefully.

Flint Fredstone

astradave wrote: »

Jaysus there is some amount of us with no lives!

Worst night of the year to go out is the last one.

Trigger

Lord TSC wrote: »

Jose, hopefully.

well if we don't put in a good showing on Saturday, I'm expecting this..