Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015 Mod Note Post #2331

Quandary

Same problems that we have been having since LVG has taken over. Far too conservative and rigid. Plenty possession but no freedom of movement for the players up front.

Utd are moving the ball around a bit quicker but thats about it.

It wasn't good enough before Christmas and its not good enough now.

Giggsy11

ScummyMan wrote: »

Two defensive midfielders at home to a League 1 side, this is fcuking pathetic.

Defensive midfielder who was ahead of our striker just now and missed easy chance?

There are enough reasons to blame Van Gaal. No need to make up new ones.

ScummyMan

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Defensive midfielder who was ahead of our striker just now and missed easy chance?

There are enough reasons to blame Van Gaal. No need to make up new ones.

The fact that Fellaini is running around like a headless chicken doesn't hide the fact that LVG has set up in his usual conservative 4-2-3-1.

Giggsy11

ScummyMan wrote: »

The fact that Fellaini is running around like a headless chicken doesn't hide the fact that LVG has set up in his usual conservative 4-2-3-1.

I wasn't even talking about Fellaini.

Giggsy11

https://twitter.com/AdamCrafton_/status/685887031285792769

ElChe32

Sideways putrid football.

fatherted1969

Seriously how much longer will this type of performance be tolerated. David Motes didn't get anywhere near thus patience.

Blind seemingly the only one who can make a killer pass think he is our top assister this year.. move him into midfield to ****

Quandary

Sheffield are not even having to work hard to keep us out. This performance is just more proof that LVG and his philosophy are not working. The longer he stays, the greater our chances of missing out on champions league football.

StringerBell

This kind of cup performance against lower league opposition has been a trademark of United for a hell of a long time (yes, going back to Fergie days), I actually hate cup ties against lower league teams for that reason.

Giggsy11

This team is shambles, or at least made to look like one by Van Gaal. Need more pace outwide and more overlapping runs from fullbacks. Our wing play combination is horrible.

Flint Fredstone

What are the alternatives to this when there's 10 men behind the ball?

Giggsy11

StringerBell wrote: »

This kind of cup performance against lower league opposition has been a trademark of United for a hell of a long time (yes, going back to Fergie days), I actually hate cup ties against minnows for this reason.

Would have been a valid point had we played good against other opponents. So at this moment, this type of performance is common from this United irrespective of opponents.

Quandary

StringerBell wrote: »

This kind of cup performance against lower league opposition has been a trademark of United for a hell of a long time (yes, going back to Fergie days), I actually hate cup ties against lower league teams for that reason.

But this is the same type of performance we have been seeing LVGs Utd produce in almost every other game this season. What we are seeing tonight is not unusual for us. This is the philosophy in action and its failing

bangkok

no shots on target in that half. shocking

StringerBell

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Would have been a valid point had we played good against other opponents. So at this moment, this type of performance is common from this United irrespective of opponents.

No point to it other then to say its not simply a Van Gaal thing, this has been United against lower league lads a lot of the time.

This type of performance is all too common under LVG, there has to come a point where you decide **** it, if they are going to sit with 10 behind the ball and frustrate everybody I may aswell go balls out. Pace out wide would help but also have to have the ability and bravery to make unselfish runs, to taake on players and stretch defences to open some space.

Passing it around waiting for them to make a mistake takes a long time when the team is drilled well enough. I have said this many a time, I see this type of game a lot for us, its either early goal or painful to watch. With the early goal teams have to come out and play a bit which helps.

When that doesn't happen it can take till 70 minutes for us to finally break through and thats when we dont concede making it even tougher to get the win!

FatherTed

Pathetic first half.

bangkok

The half-time scores in #MUFC's last 10 home games: 0-0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0-1 0-0 0-0 0-0 :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

beno619

StringerBell wrote: »

This kind of cup performance against lower league opposition has been a trademark of United for a hell of a long time (yes, going back to Fergie days), I actually hate cup ties against lower league teams for that reason.

Very weak defence.

It's not like this our first insepid performance of the season.

Winston Payne

Flint Fredstone wrote: »

What are the alternatives to this when there's 10 men behind the ball?

There's no excuse for our passing tempo. He didn't have to start Fellaini either.

StringerBell

beno619 wrote: »

Very weak defence.

It's not like this our first insepid performance of the season.

It wasn't a defence of anything.

Flint Fredstone

Piss poor performances from Mata and Herrera, deservedly hooked off.

beno619

Flint Fredstone wrote: »

What are the alternatives to this when there's 10 men behind the ball?

Ah yes the groundbreaking tactic LVG has been working to dismantle for 18 months.

Giggsy11

The feed we are getting is horrible. I mean commentary. If they can take their head out of Rooney's arse then we can listen to something.

Everyone's mistake except Rooney's for everything.

Unearthly

Remember people used to wonder how fans post on boards during a game? I'm wondering how it's possible not to be on your phone during these games

Thepoet85

Sarcastic cheering at a shot, which wasn't even on target

Headshot

LVG reign is getting to the stage of Moyes hatred for me.

Quandary

Headshot wrote: »

LVG reign is getting to the stage of Moyes hatred for me.

Its amazing how much of a chance he is being given at Utd. I can't imagine any other club would put up with this incessant bullsh1t for as long as this.

KH25

I'm not even surprised anymore. Dreadful.

hufpc8w3adnk65

Pelé me arse

Quandary

BT commentary gushing about how hard Sheffield Utd have worked to defend. What a load of ****. From what i've seen all theyve done is keep their shape, sit deep and give us the ball.

We had a very strong team out tonight and have been appalling at home to a very beatable side. He needs to go.

Headshot

Well done Depay

Paul Tergat

This cannot save his job

Giggsy11

Commentator is so annoying. He said Fellaini shouldn't have been subbed out as he was good target man for playing aerial balls and diagonal balls to him. As if we have runners to win second ball.

beno619

Memphis and CBJ slight positives.

Managers inability to extract anything from good players is a huge negative. Shocking performance.

scudzilla

We couldn't score in a brothel, pretty ironic that the only one of our players that has actually scored in a brothel has scored

10 wins in a row, 10 wins in a row
We're only 8 wins from,
10 wins in a row..

:cool::cool:

sky88

As much as van gaal is not the man for the job now the players have to take a look at themselves the majority were just bad tonight. Dreadful stuff.

I could also go a long time without hearing about the United way in a match.


At least we're through tho.

adox

Delighted to see Utd going through but seriously, don't let that late peno sugar coat another awful sterile performance. This at home against a league 1 side.

Oh how I wish the club would get rid of Van Gaal. If it didn't happen over the Christmas period I can't see it happening until the summer.

The club have contributed hugely to the post Ferguson decline. They continue to embarrass.

Adamocovic

Ive supported LVG and will hope results can improve but it's clear the tactics and playing style are not working, I don't see him changing and that will probably lead to his dismissal.

I don't buy into the idea of bringing in more in January will help. We have quality players in the squad but we aren't set up to use them efficiently. Slow safe conservative possession driven play is clearly what LVG thinks is needed but playing with no tempo isn't helping our attack. We allow teams to crowd the box and deal with us easily. Our players choose cut backs and horizontal passing in favour of taking players on and going into space. I fear even if we bring in a top quality player we won't use him to the extent of his ability.

As a generally optimistic fan who supported Moyes all the way until his dismissal I will do the same with LVG, but at this point he isn't showing any signs of trying to improve the situation by making tactically changes, rather keep sending them out and hoping it works.

Today we got lucky. A penalty to win a game when we didn't really show any signs of scoring. I don't think the result will change many fans opinions, the performance again was very poor.

Mars Bar

Props to Basti for staying on. I wonder was Hazard watching that?

bucketybuck

Anybody want to try and defend that ****e?

Quandary

adox wrote: »

Delighted to see Utd going through but seriously, don't let that late peno sugar coat another awful sterile performance. This at home against a league 1 side.

Oh how I wish the club would get rid of Van Gaal. If it didn't happen over the Christmas period I can't see it happening until the summer.

The club have contributed hugely to the post Ferguson decline. They continue to embarrass.

I could not agree with you more.

This experiment needs to end now and I cannot see us getting into the top 4 if he stays on.

Vic Vinegar

That was manky.

adox

adox wrote: »

Delighted to see Utd going through but seriously, don't let that late peno sugar coat another awful sterile performance. This at home against a league 1 side.

Oh how I wish the club would get rid of Van Gaal. If it didn't happen over the Christmas period I can't see it happening until the summer.

The club have contributed hugely to the post Ferguson decline. They continue to embarrass.

The worst in a while IMO, that was just boring and a real chore to stick with to the end.

Won't the fans who left OT early be sorry when they hear the final score? No, no they won't.

Mantis Toboggan

Paul Tergat wrote: »

This cannot save his job

Sadly it probably will, until the summer at least. He should have been sacked along time ago.

Ordinary man

Quandary wrote: »

I could not agree with you more.

This experiment needs to end now and I cannot see us getting into the top 4 if he stays on.

A new coach mightn't change anything. Look at liverpool, they're as bad under klopp as they were before him. If united are to get rid of lvg then they have to do it now when the window is open or keep til the summer

ericzeking

Working evening shift Tuesday... Woohoo!

RobbingBandit

Rooney and Mike Pele Smalling stars of The Great Escape 2016...

Professional Griefer

James Ducker wasnt happy we managed to get the peno.