Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015 Mod Note Post #2331

bucketybuck

So heres a question. Where was Varela today?

We are all about the player development are we not? I mean, thats why Varela and Jackson were chucked into the deep end for a crunch CL game, wasn't it?

Yet Varela didn't feature before that game and now once again a winger is selected ahead of him at full back, so whats the deal? Is he worth a spot or is he not?

Its decisions like this that the prove the lie of Van Gaal developing young players, there is no cohesive development plan there, instead its just a bunch of throwing players at the wall and seeing what sticks.

Also, the Schneiderlin decision is just the latest in a long long line of baffling Van Gaal selections. Stats show we are better with him in the team, yet for the tenth time he sits on the bench as an unused spectator.

adox

Van Gaal has apparently said at the post match press conference that one option may be for him to resign.

weemcd

LVG is probably gone at this point, and there probably won't be too many shedding tears about it.

However the players should be ashamed of themselves because there are too many (almost all) of them not putting in a shift.

Bad times because I actually thought I saw green shoots of growth this year, Martial and Liverpool game being the highlights.

General results, boring play, Shaw injured, Rooney and Memphis have been the real low points for me.

keeponhurling

Roy Keane said he'd like to get back into club management...

Nalz

anyone got a screenshot \ photo of this "stare"?

Alex Meier

Daroxtar wrote: »

Jose....
Bring in Jose till the end of the season to pull us out of this rut. Then get rid of him. He's too volatile, has no development policy, plays sh1te uninspiring football and he'd probably try to buy Costa and Terry. Then break the bank to get Simeone and a good translator.
LVG might have been OK for a while but he was being touted as possible Spurs manager before he came our way and tbh that's about the level I'd have left him at.

So you freely seem to admit that bringing in jose would bring short term success (maybe United in next seasons CL).

There's no way Simeone would take the job.

He was offered it already, after Fergie, and turned it down.

Mourinho is the only manager around with a reputation for winning things who is prepared to take the job.

Everyone else is steering well clear.

Smegball

Has to be Jose. I can't see Pep coming to manage a EL team next season and I don't think Giggs would bring us CL football next season.

Alex Meier

Nalz wrote: »

anyone got a screenshot \ photo of this "stare"?

https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/D2240BF4D01292550010550071296_3c6f09999aa.3.1.11773939516110836002.mp4?versionId=fIcXJk3bns.QRfh_.H4andJwZ57T0huW

deaddonkey15

bucketybuck wrote: »

So heres a question. Where was Varela today?

We are all about the player development are we not? I mean, thats why Varela and Jackson were chucked into the deep end for a crunch CL game, wasn't it?

Yet Varela didn't feature before that game and now once again a winger is selected ahead of him at full back, so whats the deal? Is he worth a spot or is he not?

Its decisions like this that the prove the lie of Van Gaal developing young players, there is no cohesive development plan there, instead its just a bunch of throwing players at the wall and seeing what sticks.

Also, the Schneiderlin decision is just the latest in a long long line of baffling Van Gaal selections. Stats show we are better with him in the team, yet for the tenth time he sits on the bench as an unused spectator.

Agreed, some of his decision making is truly bizarre. Taking off Mata against Wolfsburg for Powell of all people who hadn't played in over a year really takes the biscuit. Pereira, who has made a few appearances for United this season (and scored in one too) remained on the bench. Baffling.

Lord TSC

adox wrote: »

Van Gaal has apparently said at the post match press conference that one option may be for him to resign.

So much going round, but coupled with the comments on BBC that he feels he has the support of the board, I think we'll see a "Parting by mutual consent" situation pretty soon.

adox

Lord TSC wrote: »

So much going round, but coupled with the comments on BBC that he feels he has the support of the board, I think we'll see a "Parting by mutual consent" situation pretty soon.

Yeah I have seen some quotes allegedly from him but with no concrete reporting. Only reporting what Daniel Taylor has posted.

Mars Bar

https://vine.co/v/iAUjVT69D0D

Ice cold.

Headshot

Mars Bar wrote: »

https://vine.co/v/iAUjVT69D0D

Ice cold.

It sounds like he spat at the interviewer too lol

KH25

The team as a whole were awful. Think LVG will be gone in a matter of days now

tinofapples

Paddy Power have apparently paid out on LVG to be next manager sacked.

Nalz

Mars Bar wrote: »

https://vine.co/v/iAUjVT69D0D

Ice cold.

Cheers. What's the context here? Was he asked something or he just didn't sign off with a thanks or a goodbye? Thanks again!

Cantona's Collars

https://twitter.com/br_uk/status/680760998429634562

J. Marston

Who was the interviewer? Shreeves, I'm guessing.

Rossi IRL

He has to go, what more can be said.

Lou Macari made a point on the MUTV phone in show there that the players are not being trained hard enough. He said that he watches them train and it just inst hard training.

Not that im a fan of bankoks fallaini agenda but Fellaini is getting on my nervs now, he has missed a good few chances like the one he missed today recently and he just adds nothing to the team.

January new manager and some new signings if possible.

A proper left back would be nice for a start.

Then break the bank either in January or the summer for Kane and Mahrez and go back to playing 442.

Mars Bar

Nalz wrote: »

Cheers. What's the context here? Was he asked something or he just didn't sign off with a thanks or a goodbye? Thanks again!

I didn't see it myself so I don't know

Lord TSC

Nalz wrote: »

Cheers. What's the context here? Was he asked something or he just didn't sign off with a thanks or a goodbye? Thanks again!

The interview was pretty straight; asking him about the poor preformances, was he the right man to lead the club, did he have the support of the board. The stare seemed to be an anger with being asked those questions.

adox

From the BBC:

.@jasonmohammad reads the words of LVG: "The club doesn't have to fire/sack me, sometimes I do it for myself" #MUFC 

Alex Meier

Lord TSC wrote: »

The interview was pretty straight; asking him about the poor preformances, was he the right man to lead the club, did he have the support of the board. The stare seemed to be an anger with being asked those questions.

More contempt for the questioner (as he's media) than anger.

homerjay2005

KH25 wrote: »

The team as a whole were awful. Think LVG will be gone in a matter of days now

Probably will lose to Chelsea so, which means the club delaying getting rid of him will cost us dearly.

jonnny68

Yeah LVG will be getting his P45 sooner rather than later.

Personally id appoint Giggs on an interim basis until the end of the season and see how he gets on, if it doesn't work out id go for Pep Guardiola who will be available then.

Alex Meier

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Probably will lose to Chelsea so, which means the club delaying getting rid of him will cost us dearly.

No guarantee.

Van Gaal will be manager for the Chelsea match.

A win there and United will keep him.

IamtheWalrus

Not a hope he'll resign. Why would he? Mutual consent means the boards asks him to resign.

adox

jonnny68 wrote: »

Yeah LVG will be getting his P45 sooner rather than later.

Personally id appoint Giggs on an interim basis until the end of the season and see how he gets on, if it doesn't work out id go for Pep Guardiola who will be available then.

If Utd had intentions of moving for Pep they should have the minutes he announced he was leaving Munich. His new employer will be sorted out well before the end of the season(if it hasn't been already).

Korat

I don't see Giggs stepping in until the end of the season improving things. The players haven't down tools out of resentment for Van Gaal, there's been no suggestion of it anyway, in the way Chelsea players did with Mourinho. They're not suddenly going to start putting an effort in when he's gone and if Giggs was a talismanic inspiration we might have seen something of it by now.

I think they need a fresh face who they fear and respect.

0gac3yjefb5sv7

adox wrote: »

From the BBC:

.@jasonmohammad reads the words of LVG: "The club doesn't have to fire/sack me, sometimes I do it for myself" #MUFC 

When is it most likely he will go if we are to get rid of him?

RobertKK

I think Louis believes he can't turn it around and will resign by mutual consent. Not just the players lacking confidence.

Lord TSC

Pheonix10 wrote: »

When is it most likely he will go if we are to get rid of him?

I have a feeling he'll be gone by the Chelsea game, with Giggs taking the one game, and then announcing his replacement afterwards.

Wouldn't be shocked if they let him see out the Chelsea game and then off him though. But the quotes going round don't paint the picture of someone who thinks they'll be working at the club much longer.

0gac3yjefb5sv7

Lord TSC wrote: »

I have a feeling he'll be gone by the Chelsea game, with Giggs taking the one game, and then announcing his replacement afterwards.

Wouldn't be shocked if they let him see out the Chelsea game and then off him though. But the quotes going round don't paint the picture of someone who thinks they'll be working at the club much longer.

Would be the best Christmas present.

Jimmy Iovine

tinofapples wrote: »

Paddy Power have apparently paid out on LVG to be next manager sacked.

Means nothing, PP only want to get some attention.

glued

Lord TSC wrote: »

The interview was pretty straight; asking him about the poor preformances, was he the right man to lead the club, did he have the support of the board. The stare seemed to be an anger with being asked those questions.

They're all stupid questions and it's something that Shreves specialises in. It's a stupid scenario as there is no way a manager can be honest.

Most people would react the same under the circumstances. Post match interviews are nothing but boring nonsense.

RobertKK

Watford currently are beating Chelsea, would move us down to 7th.

Alex Meier

RobertKK wrote: »

Watford currently are beating Chelsea, would move us down to 7th.

Behind Palace, Watford & Leicester at Xmas with Chelsea having lost ten matches [If Watford win]

RobertKK

RobertKK wrote: »

Watford currently are beating Chelsea, would move us down to 7th.

Jimmy Iovine

glued wrote: »

They're all stupid questions and it's something that Shreves specialises in. It's a stupid scenario as there is no way a manager can be honest.

Most people would react the same under the circumstances. Post match interviews are nothing but boring nonsense.

What about half-time interviews?

I'd love to see van Gaal doing those.

0gac3yjefb5sv7

glued wrote: »

They're all stupid questions and it's something that Shreves specialises in. It's a stupid scenario as there is no way a manager can be honest.

Most people would react the same under the circumstances. Post match interviews are nothing but boring nonsense.

Most of the time there are boring af. But they can tell something about the situation and if the manager is under fire.

jayo26

When asked about assurances from the board by the paper press lvg said that its not always the board that has to sack the manager he says that he can quit himself it's something he will talk to Woodward about and not the press.

deaddonkey15

Spurs 3 nil up at home to Norwich. That's how it's done.

J. Marston

Costa suspended for the Chelsea game.

RobertKK

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

Spurs 3 nil up at home to Norwich. That's how it's done.

Sure some United fans didn't want Kane in the summer, not that he was leaving Spurs.

secman

J. Marston wrote: »

Costa suspended for the Chelsea game.

More bad news......

J. Marston

secman wrote: »

More bad news......

Scored twice today so not really.

Lord TSC

Well, at least we didn't lose 6th place today.



Very quiet; thought there'd have been more chatter, both by fans and media.

adox

Lord TSC wrote: »

Well, at least we didn't lose 6th place today.



Very quiet; thought there'd have been more chatter, both by fans and media.

We are in the eye of the storm

RobertKK

Lord TSC wrote: »

Well, at least we didn't lose 6th place today.



Very quiet; thought there'd have been more chatter, both by fans and media.

Holding onto 6th place, what a relief...

Robson99

Cant see how anyone can defend LVG at this stage. 18 months of spoof and not an inch of progress. If Moyes ad been given this length of time and 250m to spend he couldn't have us any worse off.