STORM FRANK, Tuesday 29th-Wednesday 30th. Heavy Rain, Flooding and strong winds.

maquiladora

The Slaney has now peaked in Enniscorthy.

http://waterlevel.ie/0000012002/0001/day/

Gael23

maquiladora wrote: »

The Slaney has now peaked in Enniscorthy.

http://waterlevel.ie/0000012002/0001/day/

Is that good?

Jpmarn

I just like to thank Boards.ie the moderators and the posters for giving great coverage for stormy weather. Especially for Storm Frank which caused flooding to several towns and villages to mainly the southern half of Ireland. In my location near Limerick city we weren't the badly affected by that 24 hours of bad weather.

For Friday, New Year's Day it looks like there is another rather deep depression approaching us. I don't think it would be bad enough to get the name Gertrude. But it probably generate south easterly gale force winds.

pedigree 6

Water level is gone down an inch in enniscorthy. Hopefully the worst is over.
Although to see people bucketing water out of the bus stop shop over a wall of sandbags, I'm not sure it could.
I see the army going into town in one of their lorries.

maquiladora

Gael23 wrote: »

Is that good?

Yes, it's dropping instead of rising...

piuswal

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

Gusts currently up to 50 knots or more at Cork Apt, Valentia and Roches point as the gradient tightens in the SW.

What is the link to the Harmonie analysis?

noah45

cyclops999 wrote: »

Athlone is open for business and your sure to have a good time ringing in the New Year.

Athlone town is fine. No floods near either of the two shopping centers. Its around the outskirts that are flooded.

downwiththatsor

piuswal wrote: »

What is the link to the Harmonie analysis?

http://www.met.ie/latest/marine-analysis.asp

WheatenBriar

squarecircles wrote: »

14,000 people without power at one stage,properties flooded,yep,just a typical winter gale.

Well he does have a bit of a point
A lot of the problem today is the combination of 8 weeks of 5 days out of 7 being wet with no where left for the water to go only flood
No single event was particularly exceptional hurricane Charlie style
Its the water level in the rivers and reservoirs thats getting exceptional at this stage caused of course by that nearly every day of rain thats happened

Coles

squarecircles wrote: »

Yesterday's rainfall totals.

What is really striking is how much devastation has been caused by relatively low rainfall totals. The reason for this is that the ground has been saturated by the previous month's rainfall.

I posted this image a few days ago of the '7 day accumulated totals' from my rain gauge to illustrate the point.



The circled area was the start of the flooding events in the midlands while the jagged line was my projection for Storm 'Frank'. These conditions look set to continue with the next couple of storms already queuing up in the Atlantic.

Very difficult times for all.

Malcolm600f

squarecircles wrote: »

14,000 people without power at one stage,properties flooded,yep,just a typical winter gale.its a
Great insight into the peculiar oddness of the irish mindset though,in that naming a storm creates such turbulence within people,wouldn't bat an eyelid in the rest of the world.

Thats what makes storms and sever weather conditions .What we had last night is just a normal ****ty winter gale , only reason there is flooding is due to a back up of water from constant **** weather ,, Nothing to do with a storm.. its an accumulation of bad weather from the past 6 months to be honest..

Wind Records
Highest wind speed in a gust: 98kts (181 km/h) at Malin Head, Co. Donegal on 16th September 1961.
Highest 10-minute mean wind speed: 71kts at Foynes, Co. Limerick on 18th January 1945.

Rainfall Records
Highest annual total: 3964.9mm at Ballaghbeama Gap in 1960.
Highest monthly total: 790.0mm at Cummeragh Mtns in October 1996.
Highest daily total: 243.5mm at Cloone Lake, Co. Kerry on 18 September 1993.
Highest hourly total: 52.2mm at Clonroche, Co. Wexford on 27th June 1986.

Gavlor

Pretty cool pic from tramore this afternoon

https://twitter.com/noelbrowne5/status/682188449244405760

Special Circumstances

WheatenBriar wrote: »

Well he does have a bit of a point
A lot of the problem today is the combination of 8 weeks of 5 days out of 7 being wet with no where left for the water to go only flood
No single event was particularly exceptional hurricane Charlie style
Its the water level in the rivers and reservoirs thats getting exceptional at this stage caused of course by that nearly every day of rain thats happened

So... the fact that we had a lot of yellow and orange warnings is wrong or right? The way I see it we had weather consistent with the warning levels, no single red event.

Lotta roads closed in mid cork all the same.

I'm guessing Malcolm600f could be the neighbour that was helping legomaniac with the roofing / bridge building yesterday.

Malcolm600f

Gavlor wrote: »

Pretty cool pic from tramore this afternoon

Thats a real cool picture

squarecircles

Malcolm600f wrote: »

Thats what makes storms and sever weather conditions .What we had last night is just a normal ****ty winter gale , only reason there is flooding is due to a back up of water from constant **** weather ,, Nothing to do with a storm.. its an accumulation of bad weather from the past 6 months to be honest..

Wind Records
Highest wind speed in a gust: 98kts (181 km/h) at Malin Head, Co. Donegal on 16th September 1961.
Highest 10-minute mean wind speed: 71kts at Foynes, Co. Limerick on 18th January 1945.

Rainfall Records
Highest annual total: 3964.9mm at Ballaghbeama Gap in 1960.
Highest monthly total: 790.0mm at Cummeragh Mtns in October 1996.
Highest daily total: 243.5mm at Cloone Lake, Co. Kerry on 18 September 1993.
Highest hourly total: 52.2mm at Clonroche, Co. Wexford on 27th June 1986.

So we had bad weather that brought about storm like conditions because of previous bad weather,which warranted the issuing of warnings,which led to a naming of the bad conditions but it wasn't a storm. Ah,ok,I got it.

Malcolm600f

Special Circumstances wrote: »

I'm guessing Malcolm600f could be the neighbour that was helping legomaniac with the roofing / bridge building yesterday.

No i was outside painting the boat getting it ready to go back into the water to get some fishing done yesterday ..I tend to leave the lego to when the weather is bad..

Malcolm600f

squarecircles wrote: »

So we had bad weather that brought about storm like conditions because of previous bad weather,which warranted the issuing of warnings,which led to a naming of the bad conditions but it wasn't a storm. Ah,ok,I got it.

What bad conditions ,, People think this is all the result of ONE storm.. That was not a storm last night and this morning , all the flooding is a build up of water this past months ..

circadian

Malcolm600f wrote: »

No i was outside painting the boat getting it ready to go back into the water to get some fishing done yesterday ..I tend to leave the lego to when the weather is bad..

You are a total badass.

All hail King Malcolm!

pedigree 6

The slaney is going down again. The only good thing about the river is that it's a fast flowing river, it floods fast and goes down fast.

RobertKK

A child had to be rescued from the floods in Thomastown.

https://twitter.com/emergencytimes/status/682236793383682048

https://twitter.com/FireIreland/status/682237753279537153

Lumi

Malcolm600f wrote: »

What bad conditions ,, People think this is all the result of ONE storm.. That was not a storm last night and this morning , all the flooding is a build up of water this past months ..

I can see that it's the use of the term 'Storm' that irritates you and yes Frank was not technically a storm on the Beaufort Scale. Met Eireann acknowledge this

'Technically, in the Beaufort Scale, the term ‘Storm’ is reserved for wind events of mean speeds between 89 and 102 km/h. These are rare enough events overland in Ireland, occurring every couple of years or so on average; somewhat more frequently in the coastal waters around Ireland.'

and that under this new scheme, names may be assigned at substantially lower thresholds.

The whole idea is to name all wind events given status Orange or status Red weather warnings as Storm Desmond etc in order to raise public awareness and to at least try to mitigate potential damage to property, homes and people.
If using the name 'Storm Frank' did that in any small way overnight then they've achieved their objective.

Malcolm600f

Lumi wrote: »

I can see that it's the use of the term 'Storm' that irritates you and yes Frank was not technically a storm on the Beaufort Scale. Met Eireann acknowledge this



and that under this new scheme, names may be assigned at substantially lower thresholds.

The whole idea is to name all wind events given status Orange or status Red weather warnings as Storm Desmond etc in order to raise public awareness and to at least try to mitigate potential damage to property, homes and people.
If using the name 'Storm Frank' did that in any small way overnight then they've achieved their objective.

To be honest Lumi the part thats really pissing me off with the whole storm naming is all you hear people speak about now is storms storms storms and as you already pointed out they are not storms, its just typical Irish winter gales..I live on a very exposed part of the NW coast where we know all about storms and harsh weather, and to be fair warning of real storms are taken serious here.. All these silly little blows been deemed storms are going to be a little like the boy crying wolf some day,, A real storm will be over looked by people and real damage will be done..
I am all for giving weather warning but to name every little breeze a storm is a bloody joke..

squarecircles

Malcolm600f wrote: »

To be honest Lumi the part thats really pissing me off with the whole storm naming is all you hear people speak about now is storms storms storms and as you already pointed out they are not storms, its just typical Irish winter gales..I live on a very exposed part of the NW coast where we know all about storms and harsh weather, and to be fair warning of real storms are taken serious here.. All these silly little blows been deemed storms are going to be a little like the boy crying wolf some day,, A real storm will be over looked by people and real damage will be done..
I am all for giving weather warning but to name every little breeze a storm is a bloody joke..

Sadly,These little blows we've been having,have already been over looked by people,like the man who was swept away and drowned a few weeks ago during 'storm' Desmond,I mean winter gale.

pedigree 6

Malcolm600f wrote: »

To be honest Lumi the part thats really pissing me off with the whole storm naming is all you hear people speak about now is storms storms storms and as you already pointed out they are not storms, its just typical Irish winter gales..I live on a very exposed part of the NW coast where we know all about storms and harsh weather, and to be fair warning of real storms are taken serious here.. All these silly little blows been deemed storms are going to be a little like the boy crying wolf some day,, A real storm will be over looked by people and real damage will be done..
I am all for giving weather warning but to name every little breeze a storm is a bloody joke..

Come down to wexford.

Duff

Have a hotel booked in Cork City centre for tomorrow night. Traveling from Louth. Yay or nay?

Villain

Quick post with photos and video from Drone footage over River Slaney in Tullow this afternoon
http://www.oreilly.ie/storm-frank-30th-december-2015/

WheatenBriar

squarecircles wrote: »

So we had bad weather that brought about storm like conditions because of previous bad weather,which warranted the issuing of warnings,which led to a naming of the bad conditions but it wasn't a storm. Ah,ok,I got it.

If we had last nights event mid summer with the same rainfall would there be rivers bursting banks all over the shop and widescale urban floods? After a singular event in isolation equivalent to last nights?
No is the answer
Rainfall totals that meet warning thresholds will trigger the warning alerts,of course
They'd do so in summer also
My point is hills are saturated so events like last night are an accumulated problem at this stage far exceeding what those warnings are designed for
To diss comments suggesting such is to mis understand weather
It's basic geography
We need standardised flood level warning systems like those in the UK

WheatenBriar

Duff wrote: »

Have a hotel booked in Cork City centre for tomorrow night. Traveling from Louth. Yay or nay?

Yay
Take the motorway the whole way down
If Gertrude packs a punch it won't be while you are on the road

Malcolm600f

squarecircles wrote: »

Sadly,These little blows we've been having,have already been over looked by people,like the man who was swept away and drowned a few weeks ago during 'storm' Desmond,I mean winter gale.

Are you referring to the man who drowned when he left his car when it got stranded in flood water ..

Special Circumstances

circadian wrote: »

You are a total badass.

All hail King Malcolm!

Everything is awesome ha????? ;-)