Black Monday - Head Coach changes 2016

Rock Lesnar

Eagles looking to talk to Tom Coughlin

helimachoptor

Titans interviewing Doug Marone :eek:

Itssoeasy

helimachoptor wrote: »

Titans interviewing Doug Marone :eek:

Ha.

Itssoeasy

Rock Lesnar wrote: »

Eagles looking to talk to Tom Coughlin

Imagine if that came about. Tom ignored john Mara at the press conference. You don't think he'd like to play the Giants twice a year and stick it to the mara family ?

SameOleJay

Miami hire Gase.

glued

Rock Lesnar wrote: »

Eagles looking to talk to Tom Coughlin

Don't do it Tom! TC done a lot of good with a pretty poor GM. Also, he's the only multiple winning SB coach active outside of BB! I'm not surprised the Eagles are talking to him.

Jolly Red Giant

SameOleJay wrote: »

Miami hire Gase.

Flagged this one a couple of days ago - and I suspect that it wasn't a case of Miami picking Gase but Gase picking Miami.

Gase has the potential to be a very good HC and I will be looking forward with interest to see what happens.

Wouldn't mind seeing him back in Denver some day.

tripperman

Jolly Red Giant wrote: »

Flagged this one a couple of days ago - and I suspect that it wasn't a case of Miami picking Gase but Gase picking Miami.

Gase has the potential to be a very good HC and I will be looking forward with interest to see what happens.

Wouldn't mind seeing him back in Denver some day.

I think this could be a good choice for his first HC job, he has a QB in tannehill who can produce IMO better numbers then he got with Cutler this season and a receiver corps which needs one or may be two more receivers and they good be very well equipped on offence to challenge for a wild card spot maybe more, all depends on what way he decides to go with defensive coaches

adrian522

Sky seem to be reporting Hue Jackson to 49ers as a done deal but I've not seen confirmation elsewhere which is strange

Paully D

adrian522 wrote: »

Sky seem to be reporting Hue Jackson to 49ers as a done deal but I've not seen confirmation elsewhere which is strange

Happy for Jackson if it's true. I hope it works out for him. A really nice guy who didn't deserve to be treated the way he was in Oakland. Though it seems a rough situation for him to be going into.

adrian522

He could wind up as HC if he hangs around Cinci, however if he gets an offer from SF he'll probably take it. OC and DC appointments would be important, particularly DC.

adrian522

https://twitter.com/MikeSilver/status/686266890201731073

Paully D

Browns or 49ers - like being asked if you want to be shot or stabbed.

adrian522

I think he''ll end up in SF. Cleveland's habit of sacking a coach every year wont help, plus where would you rather live?

https://twitter.com/MaioccoCSN/status/686272732636385280

adrian522

49ers have not made an offer to Jackson as of yet.

adrian522

adrian522 wrote: »

49ers have not made an offer to Jackson as of yet.

Or maybe they have

https://twitter.com/Kyle_McLorgBASG/status/686319864202461185

Jolly Red Giant

Rex has hired his twin brother to run the defence in Buffalo

kennyb3

Jolly Red Giant wrote: »

Rex has hired his twin brother to run the defence in Buffalo

Yeah he really earned it after last season with the Saints :pac:

jack presley

kennyb3 wrote: »

Yeah he really earned it after last season with the Saints :pac:

Or any year, with any team where he's been been the DC.

LuckyLloyd

Seem like Rex is choosing next year as the hill to potentially have his head coaching career die on. I do think that - even if the Bills fail to make the playoffs next year - there will always be a market for his services as a Defensive coordinator. Not so sure about his brother though!

kennyb3

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Seem like Rex is choosing next year as the hill to potentially have his head coaching career die on. I do think that - even if the Bills fail to make the playoffs next year - there will always be a market for his services as a Defensive coordinator. Not so sure about his brother though!

Yeah hire your brother (an awful DC) and have a bad season and it's Sayōnara. Unnecessary risk to take.

I was surprised the bills defence was so bad this year. With Rob it might end up historically bad.

adrian522

Giants want to interview Hue Jackson...apparently

HigginsJ

adrian522 wrote: »

Giants want to interview Hue Jackson...apparently

We really appear to be in no hurry with this appointment. Jackson wouldn't be a bad hire.

adrian522

Surprised at them coming in at this stage, if the Bengals had won they wouldn't have been able to interview him until after the Bengals were knocked out.

adrian522

Just wish we would hire someone at this stage.

https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/686642581384515584

jack presley

Might be a stupid question but why is permission needed from the Giants now that they've relieved him of his duties? Once you don't retain him, does his contract not become void?

paulie21

jack presley wrote: »

Might be a stupid question but why is permission needed from the Giants now that they've relieved him of his duties? Once you don't retain him, does his contract not become void?

He technically resigned and since he had one year left on his contract teams need Giants permission to speak with him

jack presley

paulie21 wrote: »

He technically resigned and since he had one year left on his contract teams need Giants permission to speak with him

I'm surprised they let him talk to the Eagles then.

HigginsJ

You'd imagine TC would easily impress in a HC interview, obviously wouldn't like to see him with the Eagles (not that I'd be overly bothered) but would be interesting to see him with the 49ers.

adrian522

The 49ers thought they had deal all but agreed with Jackson, that now does not seem to be the case so they seem to be scrambling for other options.

Nothing will happen, in terms of an announcement until Thursday/Friday at least as Jed is at NFL meetings until then.

adrian522

Hue Jackson saga continues apace.

Re: the #Giants HC interview, I’m told the plan is for Hue Jackson to arrive in NYC Wed nite & interview Thurs am at t/ latest, at this time

— Josina Anderson (@JosinaAnderson) January 12, 2016


Giants are "serious" about Hue Jackson, source says. 49ers, Browns are very interested, but Jackson really wants to talk to Giants first.

— Ralph Vacchiano (@RVacchianoNYDN) January 12, 2016

Doesn't seem like much will happen until after these NFL meetings in Houston anyway.

helimachoptor

Do head coaches have agents?

jack presley

helimachoptor wrote: »

Do head coaches have agents?

I'd imagine so. And not just head coaches. I'd say anyone signing a contract in the NFL has one so assistant coaches too.

adrian522

adrian522 wrote: »

Giants are "serious" about Hue Jackson, source says. 49ers, Browns are very interested, but Jackson really wants to talk to Giants first.

— Ralph Vacchiano (@RVacchianoNYDN) January 12, 2016

I'm trying to work out if it is better to be "serious" or "very interested". "Very serious" would probably be better than either.

glued

adrian522 wrote: »

I'm trying to work out if it is better to be "serious" or "very interested". "Very serious" would probably be better than either.

I think it's just an indication that the Giants aren't just interviewing him to be compliant with the Rooney rule.

49ers are meeting with TC today.

adrian522

So, according the usual suspects on twitter, the browns are making a big push for Jackson and for now it seems the 49ers are looking elsewhere.

The reason for this may be that the Browns are willing to give Jackson some control over personnel decisions whereas the 49ers are not. All rumour at this stage but doesn't look like Jackson is going to SF.

In a rather worrying twist the Chargers LB coach Mike Nolan has stepped down "to pursue other opportunities".

Hopefully just coincidence but if he was to be re-hired I feel the 49ers fan base would literally explode. Literally.

This is what a 49ers beat reporter (who is very friendly with management) had to say about Nolan:

Don't laugh: He remains a favorite of 49ers management.

The Yorks love nothing more than familiarity and yes they're very familiar with-and fond of-Nolan from his three-plus seasons coaching the 49ers. (Before Mike Singletary who was before Harbaugh who was before Tomsula.)

OK, those weren't very good 49ers years, but the Yorks enjoy grading on a curve, and at this point, after 4-10 with Tomsula, Nolan's rebuild (alongside McCloughan) seems like a positively uplifting experience.

Nolan is 56, rarin' for another head coaching job, and I know Jed York still thinks wistfully of the image-conscious, babbling, PR-driven Nolan era.

Problem: Nolan is wholly 100% only defense, as he proved during his 49ers stint. He is clueless about the QB.

But Nolan has good NFL connections-his first 49ers OC was Mike McCarthy, his second one was Norv Turner. It's possible Nolan could hook up with another strong OC and sell himself to the Yorks again.

I can say this: The more York wearied of Harbaugh, the more he pined for the Nolan days, and that's what led to Tomsula the last search. Also remember: York reportedly cried when he had to fire Nolan in 2008.

Hey, maybe the 49ers can hire Nolan, then use their first-round pick on a QB that Nolan can totally screw up (and pass on a Cal QB along the way).

Color me concerned.

LuckyLloyd

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14549971/study-nfl-coaching-diversity-crisis

woof :mad:

LuckyLloyd

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14549971/study-nfl-coaching-diversity-crisis

woof :mad:

really dislike these hate mongering articles Stephen a. Smith would be proud

Realt Dearg Sec

Livia Delicious Beagle wrote: »

really dislike these hate mongering articles Stephen a. Smith would be proud

How is it hate mongering?

Realt Dearg Sec

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

How is it hate mongering?

Hate mongering is the wrong phrase but It's like the whole chip jelly is a racist thing there are black head coaches in the league and there are more being hired every year this kind of article creates anger and controversy where there is no need for it

Realt Dearg Sec

Livia Delicious Beagle wrote: »

Hate mongering is the wrong phrase but It's like the whole chip jelly is a racist thing there are black head coaches in the league and there are more being hired every year this kind of article creates anger and controversy where there is no need for it

I disagree. The article just points out that, when other factors are allowed for, there is evidence of discrimination in hiring coaches at all levels based on race. There's only no need for it if you think it's incorrect (which the statistics apparently don't support) or if you think it doesn't matter. Otherwise there is a need for it.

adrian522

https://twitter.com/ChrisBiderman/status/687051897652445184

Giants up next....

LuckyLloyd

Livia Delicious Beagle wrote: »

really dislike these hate mongering articles Stephen a. Smith would be proud

Livia Delicious Beagle wrote: »

Hate mongering is the wrong phrase but It's like the whole chip jelly is a racist thing there are black head coaches in the league and there are more being hired every year this kind of article creates anger and controversy where there is no need for it

The statistics discussed say there is a need for it.

LuckyLloyd

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

The statistics discussed say there is a need for it.

Stats are not everything there are few male nurses that statistically is an issue but really it's not there are other careers that are dominated by one race look at nba players or nfl receivers both black dominated look at nfl qbs White dominated that does not automatically mean there is an issue

LuckyLloyd

Livia Delicious Beagle wrote: »

Stats are not everything there are few male nurses that statistically is an issue but really it's not there are other careers that are dominated by one race look at nba players or nfl receivers both black dominated look at nfl qbs White dominated that does not automatically mean there is an issue

Eh...you're in a strange wonderland on this I think!!

LuckyLloyd

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Eh...you're in a strange wonderland on this I think!!

Could well be I suppose

adrian522

The 49ers interview with Tom Coughlin is over. As far as I can see no further interviews are planned.

I'd guess they will schedule a second interview with any candidates they want to proceed with. The next big one though is Hue Jackson interviewing with the Giants tomorrow morning.

After that things should be a bit more clear as to where he will end up then things may start to fall into place.

One other name I've heard mention of is Mike Shula, the OC of Carolina but as they are still involved in the playoffs he can't be interviewed until next week I think.

adrian522

Well this is a bit of a kick in the balls, he'd rather go to Cleveland...


Hue Jackson will become the next head coach of the Cleveland Browns. "They made me feel comfortable," he just told me.

— Michael Silver (@MikeSilver) January 13, 2016

49ers lost the candidate they wanted to the Cleveland Browns. Just run that one around your head. Whew.

— Tim Kawakami (@timkawakami) January 13, 2016

glued

I think Baalke and Jed are a big problem in San Fran. I remember hearing on Ross Tucker's podcast how Baalke leaked a lot of things to the press about Harbaugh. Although it must be worse than that if Jackson picked the Browns over the 49ers.

KrustyUCC

Disappointed Jackson didn't even interview with the Giants

Would have thought that is a better job than the Browns