A minutes silence please for the death of Call of Duty

Todd Toddington III

Never played bad company 2 but bf3 and 4 were/are the shiznitz. I'll sit in a tank all day shooting down helicopters. Haven't upgraded to xbox one and actually cancelled my xbox gold membership a week ago as I don't play it much these days. No intention of forking out that kinda cash either. Saving to upgrade my pc graphics card after playing some arma/h1z1 on a friends pc, that kinda sh1t I dig. It will be worth the wait.

Edit: I'm also old and grumpy, working on the grumpy bit mind

ShadowHearth

Captain Chaos wrote: »

I do play CoD for the SP, I played them all except for Ghosts, BLOPS2 and 3.
I hated BLOPS1 so much I could not bring myself to finish it, from the moment of finding the minigun hidden behind the reception deck of the prison on wards. I just avoided the BLOPS games from then on

MW3 went silly with the entire Russian fleet right in New York harbour with a sub launching ICBMs from 500 yards away, they can do that from the mid Atlantic ffs. It was just a case of how much military hardware sh1t can you fit on the screen at once no mater how silly or practical it was.

Overall though CoD has an identity issue, it does not know what it is or what it needs to be anymore. Bring back the days of the sniper mission flashback in MW.

Funny enough I did not liked Bo1 campaign at all, I never finished it. It was really me for me, bit bo2 campaign was just fantastic. Best cod campaign ever and I could put it next to some heavy hitters in story mode.
If you never played it, give it a go m8. Definitely won't be disappointed.

SterlingArcher

Todd Toddington III wrote: »

Never played bad company 2 but bf3 and 4 were/are the shiznitz. I'll sit in a tank all day shooting down helicopters. Haven't upgraded to xbox one and actually cancelled my xbox gold membership a week ago as I don't play it much these days. No intention of forking out that kinda cash either. Saving to upgrade my pc graphics card after playing some arma/h1z1 on a friends pc, that kinda sh1t I dig. It will be worth the wait.

Edit: I'm also old and grumpy, working on the grumpy bit mind

Yes forget consoles. they're just maggots Michael. Be one of us and you'll never die

When you are ready, come to the pc building forum. . And keep your eye on the bargain alerts there. Have you played squad? Even more **** for you to dig.

Todd Toddington III

SterlingArcher wrote:

When you are ready, come to the pc building forum. . And keep your eye on the bargain alerts there. Have you played squad? Even more **** for you to dig.

When I get the cash together ill pop over with my computer specs and let you guys do the dirty work!! Saw a video of squad on YouTube, looks very interesting, insurgency with better graphics. I'll be giving it a go for sure

Cuddlesworth

IvoryTower wrote: »

Is it selling well?

Yes, but downward figures per generation. Not sure where the recent one was but it's been on a downward spiral since MW3. Advanced warfare was close enough to COD4 in sales to show the decline in the series. Forbes pointed it out early this year.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2015/06/29/what-if-activision-puts-an-end-to-call-of-duty-franchise/

Skylinehead wrote: »

COD4 is probably my favourite multiplayer shooter of all time, and I've played quite a few of them. Balance was perfect, and the map designs were great.

WAW, I think people are suffering a bit from WW2 COD nostalgia here. Atmosphere was lovely, Nazi Zombies is fantastic, but it suffered from terrible hit detection and horribly flawed weapon balance (that submachine gun being more powerful than bolt-action rifles!). Still ok though.

MW2 had major flaws, but it's still a fun game if you get the right sort of players.

Black Ops was alrightish, Vietnam was something new.

MW3 jumped the shark with gimmicks. Haven't played one since. Can we please just have a normal shooter with minimal perks/killstreaks ?

COD4, helicopter tracked the top players on the other team. Few people understood the dynamic that it made.

WAW had horrific bugs when it came out, hints of the future of pc gaming right there. All I remember was playing it for maybe a week then dropping it.

MW2, teleport knifing noob tubes on crappy connections. Hilarious fun but out of order. I went 25-0 on servers just knifing and then popping off a nuke. It always sticks out in my mind how different it was to MW1, how much it rewarded camping versus constant movement with no balance in between. Because of the crappy hitboxes, it made far more sense to spam grenades at corners or pick the fast running and teleport knife with a smg and just plan strafe run at people.

Stopped playing after they started rewarding people for dying and reduced the killstreaks to pitiful amounts to appease the people who couldn't play. Think it was around black ops release. Had a go on the x-box and got bored in a few minutes.

Midkemia wrote: »

MW2 was the best cod for me, found it incredibly easy online to rack up some unbelievable scores.

Nah, MW1 always. MW2 was so unbalanced it was criminal. You're either figured out 1 of 3 strats and a handful of locations to camp or you died constantly. There were 2 types of players, those at the very top and everybody else. Looking back, I enjoyed it because I had come from a medium to high skilled CSS period and dominated the matches. I doubt the other 14-15 other people in the games had any real enjoyment. It also the beginning of the gimping of PC's for COD.

Everybody remember this?

Optimalprimerib

MW2 multiplayer was probably my favorite game of the last generation. I was never fantastic at it but enjoyed the **** out of it.

Lost the love with the yearly releases though and going to play it now, i am so far out of touch i cannot enjoy them.

I also got bored of the single player. MW1 was excellent, 2 had its moments, but i got bored during 3 and never went back to any since.

TerrorFirmer

Treyarch seemed to be elevated to "star" status and the previously poorly received World at War and Black Ops were reframed into their major series

You what? Black Ops and World at War were both major critical and commercial successes, obviously opinion's on the games are subjective but their overwhelming success in both those fields is an actual fact.

I actually play all the COD games for their single player as well as multi-player, with Ghosts and Advanced Warfare I actually reached the point where I played the campaigns, about an hour of multiplayer, and was just done. So unbelievably tired of all this future-crap, these days it's as much about gadgets, abilities, flying around the place and what-not as much as it is about shooting.

Campaign wise, I find they're all still decent enough, with the exception of Ghosts, which was pretty bad. The first Black Ops was probably the last brilliant COD campaign I played though - Treyarch outdid themselves with that game I think, in my mind it was the last truly excellent all-around COD title. Black Ops 2 was pretty decent though as well.

The market now is largely aimed towards 12-20 year olds, who seemingly can't get enough of the futuristic stuff - ironically, people whinged that the market was oversaturated with WW2 shooters.....now it's completely and utterly saturated with the future-war genre but doesn't show any sign of stopping.

I suppose we have to remember that an absolutely massive percentage of those playing COD these days would never even have played COD4, or even some of the sequels - for them a return to the roots of the franchise would be as jarring as it is for COD4 veterans to see the current condition of the game.

World at War 2, or a new 'Black Ops' style COD game set in the cold-war era would be such a breath of fresh air.....because at the end of the day I do want to make a return to the franchise, when it's good there isn't anything else like it out there - just alternatives that aren't the same no matter how good.

heroics

I seem to be different to most of you here I am also older (35) but I only started playing consoles when MW2 came out. Have to say I hated MW2/3 played campaign in Blops1/2 and haven't completed a campaign since. Think I have about 20 mins in Blops3.

I only buy them for the multiplayer. Got to Master prestige in Ghost, Grand master in AW and Prestige 7 in Blops3. I'm going to take a lot of stick for this but I liked the last 3.

Maybe its because I play mainly objective game modes and never play TDM. I like the speed of movement and the fact you can traverse around the map/get to gunfights quicker. Harder for people to camp as you can get behind them. (also thermite in Blops3)

IvoryTower

Blasphemy!

SpaceSasqwatch

Cod has consistently been going downhill since CoD4.

Dont know why they decided to pander for noobs...introducing sh1t perks and sh1t weapon attachments that only encourage camping or playstyles of douchebags.

Do I still buy them? Yes but very rarely would you see me playing them a few months later(I equate the purchasing of a game to a night out..if I get more than 8 hours of gameplay from them , they owe me nothing).The last DLC i bought was for MW2.

Enjoying blops3 for the moment even with the crappy specialist set up...getting more fed up with the muppets playing it than anything else tbh.

Overheal

I see people play this new one and I just think "Oh look they made Titanfall without robots and EMP grenades"

CiDeRmAn

World at War was solid but unimpressive, certainly in terms of single player campaign and suffered the most in comparison to the Infinity Ward Modern Warfare, it was as if, at the time, Treyarch's efforts were fillers in while we were all waiting for the next Infinity Ward title.
It was a pretty commonly held opinion at the time, that Treyarch made competent if derivative entries into the franchise whilst IW brought something new to each edition they developed.
They all still sold bucket loads, which is nice, but it was only when IW stopped being the "star developer" of the series did Treyarch step into the limelight and BLOPs become the big story arc for the franchise.
I really haven't enjoyed a CoD title since Modern Warfare 3, the series increasingly science fiction theme puts it in competition with the likes of Destiny and Halo 4/Reach/5, all of which are better, in my opinion at least.

CiDeRmAn

SpaceSasqwatch wrote: »

Cod has consistently been going downhill since CoD4.

Dont know why they decided to pander for noobs...introducing sh1t perks and sh1t weapon attachments that only encourage camping or playstyles of douchebags.

Do I still buy them? Yes but very rarely would you see me playing them a few months later(I equate the purchasing of a game to a night out..if I get more than 8 hours of gameplay from them , they owe me nothing).The last DLC i bought was for MW2.

Enjoying blops3 for the moment even with the crappy specialist set up...getting more fed up with the muppets playing it than anything else tbh.

What's the point in making a major AAA release and only gearing it towards pro players like yourself?
In my experience there are half wits everywhere who do little but attempt to ruin the game of others for the craic.

Stone Deaf 4evr

say what you will about the new game (which personally I like a lot) but theres no denying the value of the game

6 hour singleplayer game that can be played with 4 player co-op
Alternate version of said singleplayer mode
zombies mode
freerunning mode
robust online pvp with a huge playercount and a variety of modes
support for competitive gamemodes with commentator view.


It makes the content offered by the likes of titanfall and Star wars battlefront look laughably thin.

EoinHef

I own both Titanfall and BLOPs3,personally i dont think the gun play in BLOPs is anywhere near as good as it is in Titanfall. Regarding content with BLOPs,i agree there is more of it and that has to be appreciated but i think most of it is quantity over quality.

While i have liked treyarch campaigns in the past i thought BLOPs3 campaign was woeful and does not really get any better with the addition of co-op imo. Zombies i do love and is a big plus for CoD imo also,theres more innovation in that element of treyarch CoD's than the last few IW CoD's combined imo. It has a story,maps are varied and mostly well designed imo and could easily develop into a standalone game imo. MP is just what you expect from a CoD game.

I really wanted BLOP3 to be a return to form,ive only bought Treyarch CoD's since BLOPs ,but sadly it has been a let down imo.

CiDeRmAn

I would say Titanfall and SW Battlefront are hardly good comparisons, given they have no single player campaign at all.
Better to see how it compares to Destiny, currently selling with several campaigns and well tuned multiplayer.

SpaceSasqwatch

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

What's the point in making a major AAA release and only gearing it towards pro players like yourself?

Listen here scrub im not a pro player by any stretch of the imagination but I dont see why they have to make the quality of the game worse to pander to clowns that cant string 3 kills together.

In my experience there are half wits everywhere who do little but attempt to ruin the game of others for the craic.

Yep and the CoD community is famous for it but again why give the douchebags more help to play like douchebags?

Liam O

The problem with the 2/3 team development cycle is that everytime something revolutionary happens in one game, it is replaced in the next game for some gimmick. COD 4, WAW and MW2 and BO all had something unique about them that made them enjoyable but less than perfect shooters

BO2 is probably my favourite shooter, it was at the tail end of all my friends liking COD but I just couldn't get enough of it, every perk seemed to have a counter and equipment and killstreaks could be easily done away with for a reward. Snipers very satisfying to use.

Then Ghosts comes and it's awful, no redeeming qualities and utterly unenjoyable. Advanced Warfare was good for something different, not my favourite by any means but once you adapt to the thrusters could be a good bit of fun.

The current iteration had potential but was ruined by some silly design flaws. The specialist system would have been fine if they were all defensive and used to help players but the unstoppable kill element that some of them possess is infuriating. Kept some of the good elements of BO2 and after playing it a bit I can get on board with the thrusters and wall running even if they do annoy me a bit but at the same time they've made sniping incredibly difficult by adding it. Shame as a proper sequel to BO2 could have been unreal.

CiDeRmAn

SpaceSasqwatch wrote: »

Listen here scrub im not a pro player by any stretch of the imagination but I dont see why they have to make the quality of the game worse to pander to clowns that cant string 3 kills together.


Yep and the CoD community is famous for it but again why give the douchebags more help to play like douchebags?

We have to accept that games for everyone and, if you are going to be a mainstream game you are going to have to cater for the mainstream, that means people like me, you and everyone else, from those who play hours and hours of online shooters to those like me who finish the single player campaign and move onto the next game going wanting.
@rseholes are everywhere, you go online, find yourself nice and anonymous people just become even bigger @rseholes, if that is their bent, last and only time I played PGR4 on the 360 some numpty decided it was the best of fun to lash around the course backwards, and we had no way to kick him from the server.

I suppose the only thing for you is to move to games that are unattractive to such half wits. Older CoD titles perhaps, ARMA, Operation Flashpoint, that sort of thing, even the hardcore of Counterstrike.
If you play the popular stuff you are going to find crowded hubs full of potential team-mates and opponents but you are also going to find large numbers of game spoilers and cheap ass players that are just going to make your experience miserable.


I think I'll play some Quake 3 on my DC, online, via dial-up... it's only been 16 years, I'm sure it still works...

ScumLord

I loved the first CoD, it was an amazing game at the time. Pretty much lost interest in it when it started to focus on multiplayer. Online didn't have any value for me at the time, I remember thinking these are just half a game.

Moved onto the likes of ARMA (Well operation flashpoint) and never looked back. The franchise doesn't interest me at all now.

I think a minutes screaming would be more appropriate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF8KkuAXzvI

Generic Dreadhead

They have managers :pac:

That guy in the white suit @1:30....

I'm crying here :pac:

Mal-Adjusted

Jesus, screaming man-children like those above are the reason games still have a certain stigma in places.

kunst nugget

Mal-Adjusted wrote: »

Jesus, screaming man-children like those above are the reason games still have a certain stigma in places.

That's what happens to people if they're continually picked last when you're playing football in the playground.

CiDeRmAn

Cormac... wrote: »

They have managers :pac:

That guy in the white suit @1:30....

I'm crying here :pac:

Looks like he nicked his dad's clothes for the occasion!

SpaceSasqwatch

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

We have to accept that games for everyone and, if you are going to be a mainstream game you are going to have to cater for the mainstream, that means people like me, you and everyone else, from those who play hours and hours of online shooters to those like me who finish the single player campaign and move onto the next game going wanting.
@rseholes are everywhere, you go online, find yourself nice and anonymous people just become even bigger @rseholes, if that is their bent, last and only time I played PGR4 on the 360 some numpty decided it was the best of fun to lash around the course backwards, and we had no way to kick him from the server.

I suppose the only thing for you is to move to games that are unattractive to such half wits. Older CoD titles perhaps, ARMA, Operation Flashpoint, that sort of thing, even the hardcore of Counterstrike.
If you play the popular stuff you are going to find crowded hubs full of potential team-mates and opponents but you are also going to find large numbers of game spoilers and cheap ass players that are just going to make your experience miserable.

Youre missing my point..The developers of cod actively support sh1thead gameplay with the perks and weapon attachments.

Not sure what your doing with all the name dropping I've played them all pretty much since they were released(albeit on pc).Although the ones I probably still play with any regularity are CoD,Battlefield,Counterstrike,counterstrike:Global Offensive and tf2.

I think I'll play some Quake 3 on my DC, online, via dial-up... it's only been 16 years, I'm sure it still works...

Im not sure myself ,doubt there's many dreamcast console peasants around to make it worth while but its still played on pc.