Great Limerick Run Marathon

opus

No real predictions from me as going to decide on the day based on how I'm feeling.

Best of luck to everyone!

Limerick91

ger664 wrote: »

Looks like a few of yeah will be joining me on the day. I will have a colored balloon with 4:00 wrote on it. Make yourself known at the start

How do you plan to pace ger664
Is it a steady about 9:05 per mile pace or do you start off slower and pick up pace after a few miles

donutheadhomer

El Caballo wrote: »

How did you feel after those 20 milers at 8:30 pace? Were you flat out? What was your last race time and when?

Last race was county 4 mile in 28:50mins but that was flat out lol. Did local 20k few weeks ago in 46:40. My 20 miles both started too fast with first 13 miles at 8min pace and then slowed down

El Caballo

donutheadhomer wrote: »

Last race was county 4 mile in 28:50mins but that was flat out lol. Did local 20k few weeks ago in 46:40. My 20 miles both started too fast with first 13 miles at 8min pace and then slowed down

That's a huge drop-off on the pace of the long runs, Averaging around 9:30 for the last 6 miles. Just a tip for the next time, run your long runs at least a minute per mile slower than goal marathon pace, preferably even slower than that and the same goes for normal everyday runs. Just for reference, when I was targeting sub-3, my long runs and easy runs were around 8-8.20 per mile.

Your long runs would tell me that you need to very careful. Personally, if it was me, I wouldn't target 3:45. Your weekly mileage is around 38mpw and while ok, would still mean your endurance at the marathon distance is lacking to really nail a perfect marathon time wise. You were overestimating your ability on the long runs so that would also lead me to believe you are doing the same with the marathon (believe me, I've experience with that). The jump from the 4 hour pacers to the 3:45 pacers(don't go with the 3:45 pacers just because they are a pace group) is huge as well. It would probably be a better idea to go out slower and see if you can pick it up later in the race, running a fast 20 miles is not much use if you can't hold it for the last 10k. The odds in the marathon favour the cautious approach big time. It's up to you but that would be my take off the limited info I can see from here.

kiloecho15

its my first ever marathon.Have done 8 halfs .2 this year so far. PB in half is 1:41 with 1:48 being my average time. Happy with the training have done 4 20mile+ runs in training but just recovering from a nasty head cold. was hoping for 3:59:59 but will have to wait and see.

kiloecho15

Going to go with the 4:00 pacers. So I will see ger664 on the starting line.

ger664

donutheadhomer wrote: »

Last race was county 4 mile in 28:50mins but that was flat out lol. Did local 20k few weeks ago in 46:40. My 20 miles both started too fast with first 13 miles at 8min pace and then slowed down

Agree El Caballo here. Your time is most likely between 3:50 and 3:55. If you go with the 3:45 pacers please dont swear or throw profanities my way If I pass you late on.

kiloecho15

rom wrote: »

Username|Distance|Current PB|Predicted Time|Actual Time
El Caballo|Half|1:26:26|1:38:36|
diego_b|Half|1:48:39|1:45:00|
neilthefunkeone|Full|4:30:00|3:59:00|
Limerick91|Full|4:09:58|3:59:00|
overthebridge|Half|1:44:41|1:39:59|
donutheadhomer|Full|4:07:20|3:59:59|
TFBubendorfer|Full|2:55:07|3:10:00|
Ocditsme|Full|3:49:00|3:45:00|
kevin7|Full|3:54:42|3:50:00|
ger664|Full|3:18:12|3:59:30|
rom|Full|2:54:21|2:49:59|

kiloecho15|Full|First|3:59:59|

El Caballo

Username|Distance|Current PB|Predicted Time|Actual Time
El Caballo|Half|1:26:26|1:38:36|
diego_b|Half|1:48:39|1:45:00|
neilthefunkeone|Full|4:30:00|3:59:00|
Limerick91|Full|4:09:58|3:59:00|
overthebridge|Half|1:44:41|1:39:59|
donutheadhomer|Full|4:07:20|3:59:59|
TFBubendorfer|Full|2:55:07|3:10:00|
Ocditsme|Full|3:49:00|3:45:00|
kevin7|Full|3:54:42|3:50:00|
ger664|Full|3:18:12|3:59:30|
rom|Full|2:54:21|2:49:59|
kiloecho15|Full|First|3:59:59|

Wise Old Elf

Username|Distance|Current PB|Predicted Time|Actual Time
El Caballo|Half|1:26:26|1:38:36|
diego_b|Half|1:48:39|1:45:00|
neilthefunkeone|Full|4:30:00|3:59:00|
Limerick91|Full|4:09:58|3:59:00|
overthebridge|Half|1:44:41|1:39:59|
donutheadhomer|Full|4:07:20|3:59:59|
TFBubendorfer|Full|2:55:07|3:10:00|
Ocditsme|Full|3:49:00|3:45:00|
kevin7|Full|3:54:42|3:50:00|
ger664|Full|3:18:12|3:59:30|
rom|Full|2:54:21|2:49:59|
kiloecho15|Full|First|3:59:59|
WiseOldElf|Half|First|1:55:00|


Throwing my name in here, going for my first ever half.

kookiebrew

Can someone put me into the list, I don't wanna break it...

Second ever full, did the same one last year... Gonna go with the 3:15 pacers for a while and see if I can keep up, ran all my training runs faster than 3:20 pace so hoping for a small miracle...

Distance full
Current pb 3:51:51
Predicted 3:20

Thanks and best of luck to everyone on Sunday...

donutheadhomer

El Caballo wrote: »

That's a huge drop-off on the pace of the long runs, Averaging around 9:30 for the last 6 miles. Just a tip for the next time, run your long runs at least a minute per mile slower than goal marathon pace, preferably even slower than that and the same goes for normal everyday runs. Just for reference, when I was targeting sub-3, my long runs and easy runs were around 8-8.20 per mile.

Your long runs would tell me that you need to very careful. Personally, if it was me, I wouldn't target 3:45. Your weekly mileage is around 38mpw and while ok, would still mean your endurance at the marathon distance is lacking to really nail a perfect marathon time wise. You were overestimating your ability on the long runs so that would also lead me to believe you are doing the same with the marathon (believe me, I've experience with that). The jump from the 4 hour pacers to the 3:45 pacers(don't go with the 3:45 pacers just because they are a pace group) is huge as well. It would probably be a better idea to go out slower and see if you can pick it up later in the race, running a fast 20 miles is not much use if you can't hold it for the last 10k. The odds in the marathon favour the cautious approach big time. It's up to you but that would be my take off the limited info I can see from here.

just had another look on the 20 milers on Strava again - average pace 8.34. Started too fast by the look of it as was much nearer an 8 min mile for quite a bit of it but ran out of steam. Thanks for the advice - I'll see how I get on.

Whereisgalway

My last months training should be attached should I pace with ger n the 4 hour or aim a little quicker?

ger664

Username|Distance|Current PB|Predicted Time|Actual Time
El Caballo|Half|1:26:26|1:38:36|
diego_b|Half|1:48:39|1:45:00|
neilthefunkeone|Full|4:30:00|3:59:00|
Limerick91|Full|4:09:58|3:59:00|
overthebridge|Half|1:44:41|1:39:59|
donutheadhomer|Full|4:07:20|3:59:59|
TFBubendorfer|Full|2:55:07|3:10:00|
Ocditsme|Full|3:49:00|3:45:00|
kevin7|Full|3:54:42|3:50:00|
ger664|Full|3:18:12|3:59:30|
rom|Full|2:54:21|2:49:59|
kiloecho15|Full|First|3:59:59|
WiseOldElf|Half|First|1:55:00|
Kookiebrew|Full|3:51:51|3:19:59|

ger664

Limerick91 wrote: »

How do you plan to pace ger664
Is it a steady about 9:05 per mile pace or do you start off slower and pick up pace after a few miles

The instructions are even splits the whole way round. That said they wont be exactly 9:08 for every mile but I wont be more then +- 10 sec either way per mile.

RayCun

Whereisgalway wrote: »

My last months training should be attached should I pace with ger n the 4 hour or aim a little quicker?

training paces are not a good indication, because you could be doing your training runs too fast
what are your recent race times?

neilthefunkeone

ger664 wrote: »

The instructions are even splits the whole way round. That said they wont be exactly 9:08 for every mile but I wont be more then +- 10 sec either way per mile.

Will be hanging off this group.. Looking forward to it, hopefully weather plays ball but will see on the day!!!

Wise Old Elf

You can collect the race packs this evening in UL (I think up to 7pm).
Was out around 5 and while traffic was busy, the "expo" itself was fine. It was bedlam last year on the Saturday.

kookiebrew

Aww no wart cream this year but got a nice hand cream instead, nice few people around there about half an hr ago too, traffic was heaving coming out from town though..

kookiebrew

http://track.rtrt.me/e/TDL-GLR-2016#/tracker

Found the race tracker here if anyone is interested

Ocditsme

kookiebrew wrote:

Found the race tracker here if anyone is interested

Cheers getting the butterfly's already and it's only Fri... roll on Sunday . Looking forward to celebratory Guinness at the finish line.

kookiebrew

Ocditsme wrote: »

Cheers getting the butterfly's already and it's only Fri... roll on Sunday . Looking forward to celebratory Guinness at the finish line.

Straight to the chicken hut for a gravy chip, sure that's why the put the finish line there right lol

dexter50

Ran this last year in 4:21 really enjoyed the course, I would be hoping to target 4:15 for this year but this would be a struggle running on my own, I know there are pacers at 4 and 4:30, but is there any inbetween ?? Or anyone else in the same boat as myself and we can run as a group??

rom

https://www.facebook.com/edel.talbot/media_set?set=a.1268775193167539.1073741868.100001052117008&type=3

40 years ago Limerick Marathon starting in the doc road.

http://corkrunning.blogspot.ie/2016/04/guest-articlenational-marathon-of-1976.html

UM1

rom wrote: »

https://www.facebook.com/edel.talbot/media_set?set=a.1268775193167539.1073741868.100001052117008&type=3

40 years ago Limerick Marathon starting in the doc road.

http://corkrunning.blogspot.ie/2016/04/guest-articlenational-marathon-of-1976.html

Brilliant article,..shud be on main forum page
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El Caballo

Just picked up my bib there. Quiet enough now, in and out in 5 minutes. No manic traffic like last year.

Nialler73

El Caballo wrote: »

Just picked up my bib there. Quiet enough now, in and out in 5 minutes. No manic traffic like last year.

Hi. Anyone know if there's a bag drop near the start? Can't see if there is in the map.

El Caballo

Nialler73 wrote: »

Hi. Anyone know if there's a bag drop near the start? Can't see if there is in the map.

Yep, there's a bag drop on O'Connell street just a little up from where the finish line is on the same street.

Spirogyra

Can someone add me to the list please? Doing the 'half', personal best is 2'04'35, I'm predicting 1'59'59.....hope everyone has a great day ☺
Baggage area, project school I assume?☺

Wise Old Elf

Nialler73 wrote: »

Hi. Anyone know if there's a bag drop near the start? Can't see if there is in the map.

They've just posted on their Facebook page. It's at the "Project" school, at the junction of Wolfe Tone St and O'Connell avenue, opposite bobby byrne's pub (in case you're not familiar with the area).
Good luck to all tomorrow.