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The OJ Simpson verdict and other blatant miscarriages of justice

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Simon2015


    Slab Murphy his only "crime" was that he was a "good republican".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭Azalea


    The fact that the Michael Jackson child molestation accusations actually got to court, despite the fact it was all made up and was pretty obvious.
    It was?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The fact that the Michael Jackson child molestation accusations actually got to court, despite the fact it was all made up and was pretty obvious.

    You sleep in a bed with children who are not your own?

    You kinda takes your chances.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    There was a thread about OJ Simpson in After Hours a few years back. At one point people were saying how could you defend someone like OJ Simpson if you were a lawyer. Knowing the evidence stacked up against him it was pretty obvious he did it.

    Que certain people saying that if they were a solicitor/lawyer they would defend him. Personally I think that is horrible. Like no no, doesn't matter if he is a murderer. I guess greed and morals don't mix.

    The lawyers for the Birmingham Six were wrong too. Disgusting. Back in the 1970s, everyone knew they did it. How much more did you need? You had the confessions, the science, everything. Greedy immoral pigs, no no it doesn't matter that they planted explosives to kill civilians. Hell unlike OJ, they were convicted...

    Etc. etc. etc.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,775 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    ken wrote: »
    As soon as the 'glove' happened they should have called a halt right there and then and gone to the beach.

    In years to come "If it doesn't fit you must acquit" will be up there with "I have a dream" and other famous quotes.
    I'd love to know where he got leather gloves that don't shrink when they get wet.

    Also I've heard the guy was doped to the gills with tranquillisers during the trial so the jury didn't get to see the real person.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,862 ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    Should be on trial again that OJ Simpson.
    He "gave" us the Kardashians after all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭Sheeps


    Azalea wrote: »
    It was?

    the prosecution literally argued that Michael Jackson tried to kidnap them in a hot air balloon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭maxximus


    wm3 a dodgy one , but if you trawl the net there is a lot of very hard to refute evidence that misskelly was definitely at the crime scene. Also though syed was definitely not given a fair trial he is as guilty as hell!


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,976 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Ruben Carter (The Hurricane) is an interesting one, I think. Apparently there was ample evidence that he was guilty and that's why he was convicted twice for the treble murder but was actually released from prison due to a technicality and not how it was portrayed by Hollywood. Bob Dylan won't sing the song he wrote in support of him at the time either.

    Any links worth reading on this? Wikipedia isn't giving me much.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    The Meredith Kercher murder trial....the dogs on the street could tell Knox and Sollecito were involved. How they got away with it beyond me.

    The Pistorius case was not a miscarriage of justice in my opinion....there is no concrete evidence to prove he planned to murder Reeva Steenkamp.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,954 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Clarence Moses-El, in prison for 28 years based on the victims evidence that she saw his face in a dream even after originally naming the guy who actually did it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,954 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    The fact that the Michael Jackson child molestation accusations actually got to court, despite the fact it was all made up and was pretty obvious.

    Yeah so innocent he gave the first kid $20 million to keep his mouth shut for the rest of his life.

    If someone accused me of being a nonce and I had Jacksons money I would spend every penny proving my innocence instead of giving someone money to keep quiet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    DellyBelly wrote: »
    I'm guessing you are white because most black people believe he was correctly found innocent. I think it plays out that way white people Sat he was guilty black people say hhe was innocent. So maybe not a true miscarriage of justice

    It is or it isn't. And Irish people aren't American so they wouldn't care about whatever cultural influences you are talking about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    The Meredith Kercher murder trial....the dogs on the street could tell Knox and Sollecito were involved. How they got away with it beyond me

    I really can't believe that anybody would believe any of that. Knox going to trial when another guy is already is in jail for the same murder done a different way was a miscarriage of the judicial process.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You sleep in a bed with children who are not your own?

    You kinda takes your chances.

    I think MJ was a very screwed up person, but unless there is a trial none of us can say whether or not he's a bad guy. He definitely lived on another planet and in all likeliness had an unhealthy interest in children, but its not something anyone knows beyond a reasonable doubt.
    PressRun wrote: »
    Well, everyone is entitled to be defended in court. It just so happens that OJ had the best defence attorneys money could buy.

    It also didn't help that evidence was planted by corrupt police. If you know some of the 'evidence' isn't genuine, how can you trust any evidence?

    I think he did kill them btw, but I think the verdict was correct. The prosecution proved nothing beyond a reasonable doubt.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    I believe Jackson was largely asexual.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭Azalea


    Sheeps wrote: »
    the prosecution literally argued that Michael Jackson tried to kidnap them in a hot air balloon.
    The poster I quoted said it's a "fact" it was all made up and that this was obvious though.

    I can't see how it's obvious, and it's certainly not a fact. I don't know that Michael Jackson did or didn't behave inappropriately towards children. It seems possible that he might have tbh, but of course not a definite.

    It's also not definite that Amanda Knox was involved in the killing of Meredith Kercher. I don't get why people state as fact that she was.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 369 ✭✭Ineedaname


    The Meredith Kercher murder trial....the dogs on the street could tell Knox and Sollecito were involved. How they got away with it beyond me.

    There were numerous flaws with the case. There was little evidence to back up the supposed motive that Knox was resentful of Kercher and no evidence tying them to the crime scene.

    The fact that they were found guilty, not guilty then guilty again before finally being found innocent shows how flawed the case was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,945 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Candie wrote: »
    I think MJ was a very screwed up person, but unless there is a trial none of us can say whether or not he's a bad guy. He definitely lived on another planet and in all likeliness had an unhealthy interest in children, but its not something anyone knows beyond a reasonable doubt

    I'd say Jordi Chandler knows, but a $20,000,000 payout means he'll forever hold his silence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    Andy Dufresne


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,973 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    All this hullabaloo over a Simpsons character


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭Azalea


    The kids can call you HoJu!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭Todd Gack


    The Meredith Kercher murder trial....the dogs on the street could tell Knox and Sollecito were involved. How they got away with it beyond me

    How so?, you've not read any of the evidence have you?, just the tabloid sensationalism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 811 ✭✭✭cassid


    CongoDance wrote: »
    His nephew was innocent. Steven? Im not so sure. The Netflix doc left lots out.

    Never heard of this case and now lost sleep has was glued to the 10 parts. Listening to the phone conversations between his mother and himself were awful, his IQ is low 70's and its sad to hear hear him say i said those things because I am just stupid. I don't understand how he is still in prison, he would have admitted to any crime going.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,954 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    ken wrote: »
    Harry Gleeson.

    Was just reading up on this case, doesn't look like the real killer was ever found.


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