LOI Talk, Rumours, Gossip, Transfers etc 2018

dan1895

Dodge wrote: »

I know, I know. But it's true. Pats wouldn't have advertised an away game so if you're caught up in the Euros and you haven't been to a game in 3 weeks it was easy to lose track of it.

I'm sure this applies to every club too. Not lads who post on forums like this who are consumed by all things related to their team but we're not representative of most LOI clubs fan bases

This happened to my auld lad a few weeks back when Shels were away to Cabinteely. Knew the game was on alright, decided he'd go on the day but went to check kick off time on aertel only to see Shels were already 3 up. Think the game started at 2 or 3 on a Saturday which is an unusual time in this league.

dfx-

andekwarhola wrote: »

This. Nor is the CEO.

Plus I don't think it's been pointed out that on top of the other provisions, RW shares will also gradually dilute again (as they have done since 2005) as the members club continues to invest (a sizable amount of) money into the club.

I think people are overestimating the extent that a wealthy businessman would view a League Of Ireland club (with no physical assets like a ground/training ground) as something they're desperate to get their hands on. There's easier ways to make money.

Plus, let's be honest , if a similar deal was extended to a tinpot, endangered outfit like Shels or indeed most LOI clubs, they'd bite his fcuking hand off.

I think people are overestimating gossip - they hear one thing off one person and another off someone else and soon enough, it becomes a hostile takeover from West Ham.

gordongekko

Just heard a whisper that west ham are interested in buying shams. Rumoured to be willing to do a hostile takeover if required

topmanamillion

MD1990 wrote: »

I think some teams might change there game to a Saturday that week.

Its been a terrible season for attendances. Even Dundalk with all the success are down nearly 1000 for there home attendances.

AidySevenfold wrote: »

Friday September 16th - There's a full LOI fixture list.

Liverpool v Chelsea has also been confirmed as being live on Sky that night...

I'd like to be optimistic and say it won't affect the attendances but it's another nail in the coffin imo..:(

I would see these things as opportunities. The leagues attendances are dropping anyway, now obviously big EPL games on Friday are not going to help but it's another nail in a well nailed coffin.
I'd be afraid people just use this as an excuse to give up on the league.
When they should really do the opposite.
There needs to be an acceptance that we've hit rock bottom or about as close to it as we want to get and start putting in place initiatives to improve things.
Blaming the EPL, GAA, Rugby or the Play station generation should be shown up for what it is. A cop out.

If you actually run down through the leagues problems a lot of them are self inflicted.

The league is poorly, run both by clubs and administrators.
There doesn't seem to be any drive to make it more attractive to sponsors or TV companies.
There are no minimum standards which clubs have to live up to in terms of administration & future planning.
Plus a lot more issues.
All of which existed before Friday night EPL games.

uch

topmanamillion wrote: »

There are no minimum standards which clubs have to live up to in terms of administration & future planning.

While I fully agree with you, If the league was based on strict minimum standards as supposedly laid out by the Licensing committee we'd have a league with about 6 clubs

joeysoap

MD1990 wrote: »

I think some teams might change there game to a Saturday that week.

Its been a terrible season for attendances. Even Dundalk with all the success are down nearly 1000 for there home attendances.

Attendances are well down, not making excuses , the standard of football is poor, most of the teams Dundalk have played in Oriel have few travelling fans - 9 matches in and I would guess less than 250 away fans in total. As Dodge posts the buzz of a wining has worn off (new fans). There is also no local derby this year. I agree home support should be better though but Dundalk now have over 1,000 season ticket holders and they might not all attend all the matches. Wexford and Longford gave it a right good lash and both will feel they could have taken a point, both matches were crackers.

joeysoap

Well done to Pats and City in Europe. Just when I thought Dundalk might have gotten a decent draw.......FH are leading the Icelandic league, KR are 10th - two points above relegation and this happens......Glenavon 0 - 6 KR. (8 - 1 overall)

Sh#t.

SantryRed

Dundalk's away league form is absolutely insane this year. Played 9, won 8, 29 goals scored and 3 conceded :eek:

The next closest in away goals is Rovers and Galway on 11.... A whole 18 goals difference. 6 teams in the league haven't scored 18 goals total so far....

Incredible statistics.

topmanamillion

uch wrote: »

While I fully agree with you, If the league was based on strict minimum standards as supposedly laid out by the Licensing committee we'd have a league with about 6 clubs

So be it. We must set a bar or nothing will change.
We start with 6 solid clubs, we build to 8, add more when we can.
We're going nowhere as it is,only stumbling to the next disaster.

I actually don't think we'd have so few clubs as 6 I'm being facetious.
If you set a bar you'll be surprised how clubs meet it when they have no other option.

I also think it would help clubs. Look at Harps and their new stadium. Theres all kinds of issues holding it up.
It could be a benefit to them to be able to say to the authorities "look we won't be allowed play in the PD if this thing isn't moved along quickly".

adaminho

AidySevenfold wrote: »

Friday September 16th - There's a full LOI fixture list.

Liverpool v Chelsea has also been confirmed as being live on Sky that night...

I'd like to be optimistic and say it won't affect the attendances but it's another nail in the coffin imo..:(

In fairness its not the Fai's fault, it's not like they sanctioned...http://www.sportsjoe.ie/football/the-fai-are-under-attack-for-the-scheduling-of-celtic-vs-inter-milan-at-thomond-park/81073

prodsc

Eir Sports showing 2 more games;

July 15 Shams v Bohs
July 22 Bohs v Derry

ko 8pm

Lovely Bloke

Athlone were 16/1 earlier today.

Shels are losing 1-0 in Athlone.

Well dodge.

CSF

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

Athlone were 16/1 earlier today.

Shels are losing 1-0 in Athlone.

Well dodge.

I was too late so I had to watch it on a stream hooked up to the telly at home with the family. Not a good feeling to have to have a conversation with people about whether your team is intentionally trying to lose or your team is just so bad that everything they do looks as though they're trying to get it wrong.

Neither is a nice thing to have to explain to anyone about your football team. This is one of those times where you'd be like 'ah I'll just stick with the English football' and then I remember that that's Aston Villa.

Lucena

@BC

Not saying it's impossible that the Shelbourne players were trying to make a few bob on the side, but how many people, as well as the players, would need to be in on it for it to work? Manager, physio, the subs?

Also it's not as if the game was a dead rubber, Shels were only five points off the promotion spots going into the game yesterday.

Maybe they were just very, very bad!

Dodge

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

Athlone were 16/1 earlier today.

Shels are losing 1-0 in Athlone.

Well dodge.

Nothing to do with me mate

Oat23

Dodge wrote: »

Nothing to do with me mate

I went back in the thread last night to look to see if you had posted something and that is what he was replying to.

I'm a bit slow

Zebra3

An embarrassing defeat last night in Athlone. Lot of players didn't seem to care....

GLaDOS

Bohs should have won about 6-0 last night. Terrible finishing, particularly from Akinade.

overshoot

poor enough game in Finn Park, 2 well organised sides basically cancelled each other out and no one could deliver that final ball. struggling to think of another shot from inside the box outside of Houstons goal, most were long range efforts and the keepers had little to do - although Galway did hit the bar shortly after our goal.
10pts from 4, maximum from the last 3... late surge for Europe! :pac:

dfx-

Harps are nearly safe already...joint fifth

overshoot

Dont let Ollie hear you saying that!!
tbh there is points to be had in the rest of this round of games too, Bray(A), Wexford (H) & Bohs(A) all below us. Cork visit Finn Park too. Of the teams we have played twice, only Dundalk & Pats have taken maximum... and that was where Ollie learned rotating your squad is a good idea...

Mushy

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Bohs should have won about 6-0 last night. Terrible finishing, particularly from Akinade.

Delighted he didn't, another clean sheet to keep some points ticking over is good

hufpc8w3adnk65

Cork City sign Matthew Conor a 19 year old keeper. Anyone any info on him?

OldMrBrennan83

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Darkglasses

MrMac84 wrote: »

Cork City sign Matthew Conor a 19 year old keeper. Anyone any info on him?

Used to play for us, and before that Waterford. Has potential, very very tall, but not ready for first team premier division action yet really.

CSF

Zebra3 wrote: »

An embarrassing defeat last night in Athlone. Lot of players didn't seem to care....

Yup, I still can't shake that feeling.

Sue Pa Key Pa

MrMac84 wrote: »

Cork City sign Matthew Conor a 19 year old keeper. Anyone any info on him?

Very confident. Right build for a keeper. Commands his area well. Some great stops followed by some you would think he should be comfortable with, but got past him

Played our cup games and was assured of the No.1 shirt next year when Graham Doyle retires, obviously Cork is a big opportunity, good luck to gim

overshoot

4 teams now on 23pts and Bohs on 22. Thought it was tight in mid table a few weeks ago!!

Oat23

Pats are very poor. They have looked stale for quite a while now.

Buckley will be replaced soon you'd think.

topmanamillion

Just back from the Sligo match.
Great 3 points for us.
Pats were poor though. Never looked like scoring and if we could have put away a few good chances there could have been a better gloss on the scoreboard.

AllGunsBlazing

If we could find a finisher we'd be destroying opposition sides in games like that.


As for Pats, they really are drifting quite a bit this season. Barring a cup win it's hard to see a way back into Europe for them next year. What kind of consequences would that bring?

topmanamillion

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

If we could find a finisher we'd be destroying opposition sides in games like that.


As for Pats, they really are drifting quite a bit this season. Barring a cup win it's hard to see a way back into Europe for them next year. What kind of consequences would that bring?

In the short term Buckleys days are numbered.

Pats have been teetering on the edge for a while now. Kelleher isn't putting in anything close to the money he had been.
Even with the success they have had in recent years the crowds are really poor. Always around the 1200 mark. Without European money it's a house of cards that's about to fall.
A Bohs or even Shels type fall is a real possibility.

White Horse

It's amazing how docile Pats fans have been while watching Buckley oversee Pats journey from champions to laughing stock.

Lovely Bloke

White Horse wrote: »

It's amazing how docile Pats fans have been while watching Buckley oversee Pats journey from champions to laughing stock.

maybe they are just accepting that they can't actually afford to be challenging, and that bucko is doing the best job he can with the resources available.

something fans of a few other clubs could do with looking at.

Dodge

White Horse wrote: »

It's amazing how docile Pats fans have been while watching Buckley oversee Pats journey from champions to laughing stock.

That's what happens when a man brings you a league title and the first FAI Cup in 5 decades within the last 3/4 years

gimmick

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

maybe they are just accepting that they can't actually afford to be challenging, and that bucko is doing the best job he can with the resources available.

something fans of a few other clubs could do with looking at.

Oh look. A shells fan pontificating about how to run a club.

Zebra3

gimmick wrote: »

Oh look. A shells fan pontificating about how to run a club.

He didn't say anything about running a club, he made a point about the fans' expectations.

A fair point that Pat's are at their level with regard to their budget after what could be perceived as overachieving in the recent past.

joeysoap

Do league of Ireland clubs actually publish budgets or is it just guesswork ? This i came up when I googled but how accurate it is I don't know. I was under the impression that Pats had the biggest budget for 2014 (they were the reigning champs) and that Dundalk's budget was 4th highest, but not according to this.

http://leagueireland.blogspot.ie/2015/02/league-of-ireland-budgets-2014-estimate.html

Note; the figures are in dollars as the poster is from Boston.

applehunter

Budget's of $400k or €400k are wrong.

Is this a fantasy football game?

joeysoap

That's what I'm asking, where do you find the actual budgets?

testaccount123

The cro

applehunter

The clubs are limited companies. Unless some club is being ultra transparent I don't see why their budgets would be available for everyone to see.

UnleashTheBeast

Sue Pa Key Pa wrote: »

Played our cup games and was assured of the No.1 shirt next year when Graham Doyle retires, obviously Cork is a big opportunity, good luck to gim

Is that 100% that Doyle is retiring after this season? If so, it's a massive blow for Wexford.

Zebra3

testaccount123 wrote: »

The cro

A club's budget and actual income/expenditure are different things.

Figures in that link above are nonsense.

Sue Pa Key Pa

UnleashTheBeast wrote: »

Is that 100% that Doyle is retiring after this season? If so, it's a massive blow for Wexford.

He's 38 and had to be persuaded to stay on last season. When his performances played a huge part in us winning the title, he earned his shot at the top league. Matt Connor was given the cup games this year with the promise of the No.1 shirt next year. The lure of Cork City proved too much, which is understandable

topmanamillion

Zebra3 wrote: »

A club's budget and actual income/expenditure are different things.

Figures in that link above are nonsense.

Surely a clubs income/expenditure are good indications of the health of a club.
A useful thing to know.

Captain Havoc

Any solid rumours about the Rover's job or is it just if you throw enough names at it, one of them will stick?

Oat23

Anyone else think Joanne Cantwell is a great host on Soccer Republic? Much better than Peter Collins I think.

dfx-

Captain Havoc wrote: »

Any solid rumours about the Rover's job or is it just if you throw enough names at it, one of them will stick?

I think Bradley will be given a chance, probably until the end of the season unless form drops dramatically. Europe is a must, fourth is not enough and if it's similar to the fractured end of the 2012/Glass/Laws season, that could be under threat.

It was an encouraging performance against RoPS in the 2nd leg in the circumstances, certainly should've won the tie. An insipid defeat to Bohs would put him under huge pressure immediately though.

Wilberto

Oat23 wrote:

Anyone else think Joanne Cantwell is a great host on Soccer Republic? Much better than Peter Collins I think.

Not taking anything from Joanne as I also think she's a great presenter, but a sick pigeon could do a better job of it than Peter Collins.