LOI Talk, Rumours, Gossip, Transfers etc 2018

Ronan|Raven

Bateman wrote: »

Hard to know with the Cousins thing. I was kind of surprised he was sacked. Why wait til Wexford beat them? They're more or less down now. Giving a new man a few months in the top division won't be great preparation for the first division IMO. Sometimes teams should give these things more thought than they do.

He wasn't sacked, he stepped down, he should have been sacked weeks ago.

JoeyJJ

Keano will be signed by Dundalk on Monday

CSF

Ronan|Raven wrote: »

Farewell Tony Cousins, thanks for promotion and everything over the years but it had run its course.
Alan Matthews to take over until the end of the season?

Surely it's time for clubs to start seeing sense and stop employing Alan Matthews?

doncarlos

JoeyJJ wrote: »

Keano will be signed by Dundalk on Monday

Badly needed. Hopefully his fitness up to scratch as we need cover and increased competition for places. Could use another 2/3 players also

UnleashTheBeast

doncarlos wrote: »

Badly needed. Hopefully his fitness up to scratch as we need cover and increased competition for places. Could use another 2/3 players also

Bizarre signing by Kenny, if true.

Alright, Keane will provide cover for right back and centre half and he's got vast experience, but he's finished as a player. Surely there are better options available?

Only a few seasons ago he was by far the best right full in the country, almost played like a second winger, but his conditioning deteriorated so rapidly it was scary. His legs are totally gone. Glad he never returned to GUFC.

White Horse

UnleashTheBeast wrote: »

Bizarre signing by Kenny, if true.

Not if you've seen Gannon's performances in the last two games.

joeysoap

doncarlos wrote: »

Badly needed. Hopefully his fitness up to scratch as we need cover and increased competition for places. Could use another 2/3 players

Missing Gartland obviously. Dundalk do have 3/4 players capable of stepping up to first team (Michael O'Connor played brilliantly for Derry when was on loan last year) but how to break them in? Up to now the first 14/15 picked themselves so no room for the likes of Poynton, the OConnors or even Maguire. Probably after the Wexford match (first alarm bells) small changes were needed but that was the Cork match and Gannon didn't play that night. Barrett caught for speed for the city goal. A more committed or talented bunch of players have never played for Dundalk. And to be fair Kenny has been building this particular team for Europe. I have and am continuing to enjoy the ride so whoever King Kenny decides to sign Or not to sign is good for me.

dundalkfc10

Kenny has already said Keane won't be signing

AgileMyth

White Horse wrote: »

Not if you've seen Gannon's performances in the last two games.

Gannon was going to keep Seamie out of the ireland team a few weeks back. Where did it all go wrong?

Hardly a bizzare signing. Has Kenny ever signed anyone from outside the country? Not too much available here at this time of year is there?

NIMAN

Derry sign a Spanish CB, Christian Castells, 31, until the end of the season.

http://www.derrycityfc.net/2016/08/defender-castells-joins-city/

Bateman

Maybe Gannon suffering from fatigue, not the end of the world, a terrific defender and great going forward too, Cork incapable of taking advantage so Dundalk will continue to get away with minor dips in form,

monkey9

JoeyJJ wrote: »

Keano will be signed by Dundalk on Monday

What a strange signing.

wadacrack

Hopefully the Dundalk game is a good as this occasion back in 2002.

SteelyDanJalapeno

Bateman wrote: »

Maybe Gannon suffering from fatigue, not the end of the world, a terrific defender and great going forward too, Cork incapable of taking advantage so Dundalk will continue to get away with minor dips in form,

Not exactly, We've gained a point on Dundalk, the goal difference that everybody said is worth another point to Dundalk is negated at least if we win the 2 games in hand

ben.schlomo

TiltedBrain wrote: »

Not exactly, We've gained a point on Dundalk, the goal difference that everybody said is worth another point to Dundalk is negated at least if we win the 2 games in hand

If, being the operative word.

Wilberto

TiltedBrain wrote: »

Not exactly, We've gained a point on Dundalk, the goal difference that everybody said is worth another point to Dundalk is negated at least if we win the 2 games in hand

We only have one game in hand.

joeysoap

TiltedBrain wrote: »

Not exactly, We've gained a point on Dundalk, the goal difference that everybody said is worth another point to Dundalk is negated at least if we win the 2 games in hand

Dundalk lost two away games, City didn't take advantage with two home games. I know over the season it balances out but City are usually strong at home. And as Wilberto posts its 1 match.

CHealy

As expected City bottle it again in the space of a week, bit earlier than expected this year but I suppose with Dundalk losing two in a row the lads wanted to forget about winning the league asap. Absolute disgusting performance again last Friday, Bohs are muck and we were worse, a team of bottlers bar 1 or 2.

At least we have Derry away tonight.................

White Horse

CHealy wrote: »

As expected City bottle it again in the space of a week, bit earlier than expected this year but I suppose with Dundalk losing two in a row the lads wanted to forget about winning the league asap. Absolute disgusting performance again last Friday, Bohs are muck and we were worse, a team of bottlers bar 1 or 2.

At least we have Derry away tonight.................

Cork will find it difficult in the Brandywell. This is the game for Cork to show that they have the bottle to win a league.

A big part of Corks difficulties is the lack of a cutting edge up front. I can't remember the last goal they scored from open play. It may even be the winner against Dundalk months ago. Maguire is playing like the lad we grew frustrated with in Oriel last year.

gimmick

White Horse wrote: »

Cork will find it difficult in the Brandywell. This is the game for Cork to show that they have the bottle to win a league.

A big part of Corks difficulties is the lack of a cutting edge up front. I can't remember the last goal they scored from open play. It may even be the winner against Dundalk months ago. Maguire is playing like the lad we grew frustrated with in Oriel last year.

Of course we will. Derry are in good form, we are not.

We showed in the last 2 home games we do not have the mentality to win the league.

Derry are at 9/4 to win tonight. Free money tbh.

CHealy

White Horse wrote: »

Cork will find it difficult in the Brandywell. This is the game for Cork to show that they have the bottle to win a league.

A big part of Corks difficulties is the lack of a cutting edge up front. I can't remember the last goal they scored from open play. It may even be the winner against Dundalk months ago. Maguire is playing like the lad we grew frustrated with in Oriel last year.

If Cork City win up there tonight I'll present Soccer Republic in my underpants.

We are not a club that wins things, the history of senior football in Cork is like a gruesome murder scene, and the current club (unless of course you think we are only 6 years old), have only won the league twice, the last time being 11 years ago. We dont have the mentality of winning down here no matter how much we think we should be entitled to.

Corholio

White Horse wrote: »

Cork will find it difficult in the Brandywell. This is the game for Cork to show that they have the bottle to win a league.

A big part of Corks difficulties is the lack of a cutting edge up front. I can't remember the last goal they scored from open play. It may even be the winner against Dundalk months ago. Maguire is playing like the lad we grew frustrated with in Oriel last year.

I feel sorry for Maguire to be honest, yes he has missed some chances but most of his play is being forced into dropping deep holding up the ball, pass it off and repeat. He's a striker who we don't use AS a striker in general play, I can't remember the last time we played a through ball to him to run onto. Our other strikers have suffered that fate in recent years too then bundled off to play on the right wing instead.

A_Sober_Paddy

Corholio wrote: »

I feel sorry for Maguire to be honest, yes he has missed some chances but most of his play is being forced into dropping deep holding up the ball, pass it off and repeat. He's a striker who we don't use AS a striker in general play, I can't remember the last time we played a through ball to him to run onto. Our other strikers have suffered that fate in recent years too then bundled off to play on the right wing instead.

That's all on caulfield and the year before, long balls up to the front players bypassing the midfield which the invested money in. Think it was miller and Healy spent most of that season watching the ball passing over them

9de5q7tsr8u2im

Cork city are a joke

dfx-

Third time I've seen Wexford in Tallaght, still don't know what to make of them, they looked very dis-spirited at the end and the defenders were walking red cards late on.

Rovers should've been 0-2 down and yet should've won 7-1.

Darkglasses

dfx- wrote: »

Third time I've seen Wexford in Tallaght, still don't know what to make of them, they looked very dis-spirited at the end and the defenders were walking red cards late on.

Rovers should've been 0-2 down and yet should've won 7-1.

The lads are shattered at the moment, and our squad is seriously depleted. No fit right winger of any description, and just loads of semi-fit lads on the bench. Hope we rest absolutely everyone for the cup game versus Sligo.

Corholio

A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »

That's all on caulfield and the year before, long balls up to the front players bypassing the midfield which the invested money in. Think it was miller and Healy spent most of that season watching the ball passing over them

The thing is this season it hasn't been like that at all, except where we've been losing or needing to score with 20 minutes to go. The play from the start has been of good quality until it gets to the strikers.

CHealy

Maliah Fresh Witticism wrote: »

Cork city are a joke

You can say that again,

Cork City havnt scored from open play since we scored against Dundalk in early June, including Europe, I think its 10 games. We are in deep trouble now. John Caulfield will always be a legend to me, having grown up watching him bang them in infront of the Shed End, but I cant see how he can bring us any further as is, if/when we finish second again this year, I think that should be that.

pablomakaveli

CHealy wrote: »

You can say that again,

Cork City havnt scored from open play since we scored against Dundalk in early June, including Europe, I think its 10 games. We are in deep trouble now. John Caulfield will always be a legend to me, having grown up watching him bang them in infront of the Shed End, but I cant see how he can bring us any further as is, if/when we finish second again this year, I think that should be that.

I agree that Caulfield needs to go. Tommy Dunne before him had to go because he'd taken us as far as he was capable of. Now its the same with Caulfield. He's done a good job getting us to where we are now but I think he's taken us as far as he can.

Captain Havoc

I think, be careful what you wish for.

White Horse

Corholio wrote: »

I feel sorry for Maguire to be honest, yes he has missed some chances but most of his play is being forced into dropping deep holding up the ball, pass it off and repeat. He's a striker who we don't use AS a striker in general play, I can't remember the last time we played a through ball to him to run onto. Our other strikers have suffered that fate in recent years too then bundled off to play on the right wing instead.

Caulfield needs to get a creative player in midfield. Someone like Finn or McEleney. However, that is probably the difference between Caulfield and Kenny. Caulfield doesn't trust that type of player, while Kenny loves them.

CHealy

White Horse wrote: »

Caulfield needs to get a creative player in midfield. Someone like Finn or McEleney. However, that is probably the difference between Caulfield and Kenny. Caulfield doesn't trust that type of player, while Kenny loves them.

What are you basing this on?

justshane

Is Hoolohan the most similar player at cork? Doesn't play much, lack of trust?

joeysoap

CHealy wrote: »

What are you basing this on?

Finn was brought in to replace Towell one creative player for another - Brucie Bonus- Towell didn't leave for a year , both played on same team = most goals scored in a season, breaking the previous total which stood for nearly 100 years. (Think it was 1923 the previous record was set)

McEleney was then bought to replace Towell and he is very very good but a little bit injury prone. Hopefully Dundalk can get him right for rest of season. Kenny loves creative midfield players.

Maybe JC does too but according to CC supporters on here there are no goals being created from midfield. That's White Horse sees on here.

White Horse

CHealy wrote: »

What are you basing this on?

In Caulfield's case, from the players he signs and then the one's he plays consistently.

Kenny started the away game against BATE with Finn, McEleney, and Horgan on the pitch. That bordered on recklessness but is typical of his desire of his team to be creative.

ShamoBuc

White Horse wrote: »

In Caulfield's case, from the players he signs and then the one's he plays consistently.

Kenny started the away game against BATE with Finn, McEleney, and Horgan on the pitch. That bordered on recklessness but is typical of his desire of his team to be creative.

Whereas Caulfield sets up with a thou shall not score against us type attitude.
Reckon he will go at the end of the season.

9de5q7tsr8u2im

Reading a few pages back certainly looks like cork city won't be sacking caulfield at all, and who the hell are foras, and why do they own cork city? never knew they are owned by them, and yeah i honestly don't think the board will make that decision as certainly they're after a great profit this year..

CHealy

White Horse wrote: »

In Caulfield's case, from the players he signs and then the one's he plays consistently.

Kenny started the away game against BATE with Finn, McEleney, and Horgan on the pitch. That bordered on recklessness but is typical of his desire of his team to be creative.

How is that reckless? Horgan and Finn are the first names on the sheet, McEleney is coming back from injury but he's still one of the best players in the league. If we had those players at City, Caulfield would have started them the same as Kenny, every manager in the league would have. You are overestimating Kennys confidence.

Corholio

White Horse wrote: »

Caulfield needs to get a creative player in midfield. Someone like Finn or McEleney. However, that is probably the difference between Caulfield and Kenny. Caulfield doesn't trust that type of player, while Kenny loves them.

I agree with you there definitely. I remember when Caulfield signed Holohan it was all bluster about our attacking intent, then when Holohan came into the team and played well, he dropped him and didn't play him game after game. Holohan hasn't taken any of his chances this season but from that initial season he came in, you could see the type of midfield JC wants and it wasn't creative.

I'm a big fan of Gearoid but he has stagnated this season and has performed poorly, Buckley hasn't improved in 4 years in and out of the team and should not be starting at all, the amount he brings to games is minimal. The focus has been more on an 'athletic' midfield rather than a creative one, which affects the strikers too.

gimmick

Maliah Fresh Witticism wrote: »

Reading a few pages back certainly looks like cork city won't be sacking caulfield at all, and who the hell are foras, and why do they own cork city? never knew they are owned by them, and yeah i honestly don't think the board will make that decision as certainly they're after a great profit this year..

Out of interest, who do you support?

9de5q7tsr8u2im

gimmick wrote: »

Out of interest, who do you support?

Cork

gimmick

Maliah Fresh Witticism wrote: »

Cork

And you do not know who FORAS are?

CHealy

Maliah Fresh Witticism wrote: »

Cork

I dont think you do.

ShamoBuc

Maliah Fresh Witticism wrote: »

Cork

A city fan not knowing who foras are? Never met one of them before.

JoeyJJ

In fairness he might be a young enough buck, wouldn't be overly critical. Lets be inclusive of people interested in learning and discussing.

CHealy

ShamoBuc wrote: »

A city fan not knowing who foras are? Never met one of them before.

Iv also never heard any City fan say "Cork" in response to who they follow, its always "Cork City" or more commonly "City"..............grab the pitchforks lads.

Darkglasses

Friends of the rebel army society. Good explanation of the ownership situation on Wikipedia.

AgileMyth

Is it humane to have Anthony Buttimer put down?

If last night puts a stop to our late push for Europe thats a lot of money he's cost us.

I distinctly remember him giving bohs a win against us a few years back too. Penalties that time, red cards and dodgy frees this time.

johnnyryan89

AgileMyth wrote: »

Is it humane to have Anthony Buttimer put down?

If last night puts a stop to our late push for Europe thats a lot of money he's cost us.

I distinctly remember him giving bohs a win against us a few years back too. Penalties that time, red cards and dodgy frees this time.

Yes and I'll pay the vets fees for you too if you want. I've seen junior refs who are better than him.

Oat23

AgileMyth wrote: »

Is it humane to have Anthony Buttimer put down?

If last night puts a stop to our late push for Europe thats a lot of money he's cost us.

I distinctly remember him giving bohs a win against us a few years back too. Penalties that time, red cards and dodgy frees this time.

Were you at the game? RTE didn't show the foul leading to the freekick Bohs scored, but some of our fans are saying Wearen dived?

I'm not convinced that was a straight red on Peers either as Akinade kicked the ball towards the corner flag. Not sure how it was a goalscoring opportunity.