Pedestrian killed

billie1b

ciaran76 wrote: »

Just jogged through Hartstown there and the Garda are measuring the roads with lasers etc. From the corner at Topaz down as far as the turn for Oakview.
Not sure what it's for but maybe someone here knows?

Its supposedly part of the investigation for what happened, the driver of the car and his friends are saying that they weren't speeding and that the 2 ladies walked out in front of them causing the accident.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

billie1b wrote: »

Its supposedly part of the investigation for what happened, the driver of the car and his friends are saying that they weren't speeding and that the 2 ladies walked out in front of them causing the accident.

I thought they were hit on the footpath. That's what was said at the time anyway.

billie1b

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

I thought they were hit on the footpath. That's what was said at the time anyway.

Yeah thats what I thought too but there is a story/rumour going around (im trying my best to not be insensitive as I dont know the truth either and I know the ladies were someones Mother, Wife, sister etc..) that they were struck on the road, with the impact and due to jamming on the brakes the car mounted the verge and dragged them along. Its a terrible situation for the family as the driver is really contesting the case. Thats why the lady in questions remains were not released for burial as the were performing toxicology tests as evidence for the driver

ejabrod

billie1b wrote: »

Its supposedly part of the investigation for what happened, the driver of the car and his friends are saying that they weren't speeding and that the 2 ladies walked out in front of them causing the accident.

Driver should have been in enough control of the car to avoid/stop.

Judging by the tyre marks and on the grass verge, it would appear that the driver was traveling at speed.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Does anyone know what happened to the other lady? Never heard anymore about her other than she was taken to hospital.

fletch

ejabrod wrote: »

Driver should have been in enough control of the car to avoid/stop.

If somebody was walking along the kerb and just as you were driving by stepped out on to the road, you can guarantee that you would always miss them?

billie1b

2 weeks ago was the last I heard about her, she was still in a critical condition in Intensive Care with crushed legs and other serious injuries. I'll ask my friend today and let you know

ejabrod

fletch wrote: »

If somebody was walking along the kerb and just as you were driving by stepped out on to the road, you can guarantee that you would always miss them?

If I was adhering to the speed limit (on that road), I would not have driven them across the road, into the oncoming lane, up on the kerb and uproot a tree stump in the process.

fletch

ejabrod wrote: »

If I was adhering to the speed limit (on that road), I would not have driven them across the road, into the oncoming lane, up on the kerb and uproot a tree stump in the process.

Fair dues to you although I think it's unfair to judge until the outcome of the investigation is known.

ejabrod

fletch wrote: »

Fair dues to you although I think it's unfair to judge until the outcome of the investigation is known.

Not judging.

If the two padestrians stepped off the kerb 'as I (or any other driver adhering to the speed limit (50k)) was passing', it would not result in crossing two lanes, mounting the kerb and plowing into a tree stump (and uprooting same).

The reality of the stretch of road in question is that it is used regularly by idiots without driving talent trying to be big men. (I live on that stretch of road and see/hear it regularly)

For the record - I drive a high powered car and have done for over 15 years - there is a time and place for driving at speed - it is called Mondello on a track day.

dodzy

fletch wrote: »

Fair dues to you although I think it's unfair to judge until the outcome of the investigation is known.

Honda civic. young lads. 3am. 2 lanes crossed and tree uprooted. Unfair you say ? Get real. Of course they were flying.

ongarboy

Just on an earlier post where someone suggested ramps to slow down traffic on this route,it was mentioned that it was not practical as it is heavily trafficked bus route also. I was just driving from Castleknock to Clonsilla today via Carpenterstown and noticed the main arterial route through the area that all the housing estates feed off of (possibly called Diswelltown road??) had ramps and is a bus route. Its not too unlike the main route through Hartstown/Huntstown/Blakestown and I noticed the ramps really controlled speed. Maybe it's something worth considering if speeding is a regular problem.

Larbre34

They're bus friendly ramps alright. Also car friendly. Waste of money. The electronic speed warning signs are the best thing along there.

Seanie_H

ongarboy wrote: »

Just on an earlier post where someone suggested ramps to slow down traffic on this route,it was mentioned that it was not practical as it is heavily trafficked bus route also. I was just driving from Castleknock to Clonsilla today via Carpenterstown and noticed the main arterial route through the area that all the housing estates feed off of (possibly called Diswelltown road??) had ramps and is a bus route. Its not too unlike the main route through Hartstown/Huntstown/Blakestown and I noticed the ramps really controlled speed. Maybe it's something worth considering if speeding is a regular problem.

I live off the Diswellstown Road. Those ramps are decent on the smaller cars but the large saloons and jeeps just fly past unhindered.

I'm actually reasonably new to the area and I'd say the general standard of driving is pretty aggressive, particularly on the roundabouts. The bus lanes are mostly used for undertaking! Only yesterday I saw an Audi - must've been close to 70kph, high revs, down the bus lane on Carpenterstown Rd right outside a creche 5pm. Outrageous stuff.

Anyways, my point I suppose is that Dublin 15 probably needs an area wide traffic management plan, the whole works... Ramps, chicanes, cameras. The Huntstown accident was a tragedy and probably is the most pressing road but more needs to be done. I'd say it's a cultural thing too. People need to accept that the inconveniences are necessary because of lack of care from others.

daymobrew

Seanie_H wrote: »

Anyways, my point I suppose is that Dublin 15 probably needs an area wide traffic management plan, the whole works... Ramps, chicanes, cameras.

Or aggressive enforcement by the Gardai. I've reported red light running, texting while driving (even one where a guy nearly crashed into a parked car), children without seat belts and Blanchardstown Gardai have done ..... nothing. They rarely even call you back :rolleyes:

Ramps punish the majority that obey the law and add extra wear to vehicles (and bicycles). That is unfair.

fletch

Just got an email from Leo Varadkar

Traffic Management - €250k

Pedestrian Crossings:
· On Old Navan Road at Blakestown Road, Mulhuddart - €50,000
· Ladyswell Road, Mulhuddart - €45,000

Traffic Calming Measures and Ramp Installation and repairs:
· Hartstown Distributor Road - Eurospar to School Traffic Calming Measures - €40,000
· Phibblestown Road Ramps Installation - €25,000
· Waterville Distributor Road Traffic Calming Measures - €25,000
· Sycamore Avenue, Carpenterstown Ramps Installation - €16,000
· Ramor Park, Blanchardstown -Ramp repair - €4,000
· Castlecurragh Distributor Road 1 ramp installation only - €4,000

Traffic Safety:
· Ongar roundabout /Allendale Anti-skid installation - €12,000
· Huntstown/Hartstown Ring Road – 4 Solar Flashing Signs - €8,000
· Porterstown Church and Playing Fields – 2 Solar Flashing Signs - €6,000

January

fletch wrote: »

Just got an email from Leo Varadkar

He's a bit behind... this info was published on david mcGuinness facebook and Paul donnolly asked people to email him if they wanted the info a few days after the election.

ejabrod

fletch wrote: »

Just got an email from Leo Varadkar

These are outrageous figures. No wonder the public finances are in shambles