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Star Wars Episode VIII - The Last Jedi *spoilers from Post 2857*
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The whole casino scene shouldnt have been in the movie.
I hate to repeat myself, but I feel this is an unfair criticism and underestimates the very key role that whole subplot plays in the movie. Again, I have no problem with complaints about the execution and suggestions it disrupts the pacing, but any suggestion it is without purpose IMO neglects what it's there for
Like many Star Wars films, this film is largely about the idea of legacy and heroes. In fact, it goes considerably further than any of the other films in that respect. It very determinedly deconstructs some of the mythologising of the Jedi, for example, and through Luke's story examines a more complex, dare I even say human side of a character who has, in the story's fiction - and arguably in our own cultural sphere - become a one-dimensional legend.
In the context of the Resistance story, there's little question the narrative is all about their rapidly dwindling numbers, and the need for a spark to ignite enthusiasm again. Luke Skywalker, of course, is one way to do that - but IMO the film is smart enough to dive a bit deeper than that. Finn and Rose are more 'everyday' heroes: the latter in particular a technician swept up in the drama, but even with Finn it's noteworthy that he's the most faceless of grunts turned hero. Through their storyline on the casino planet and the epilogue sequence, Johnson is attempting to more directly reflect the other side of the story - away from the legendary heroes, and more the normal disenfranchised, forgotten folk making a decision to kick some ass. It's all about the little guys.
I mean, there are more purposes to the whole subplot - Finn & Rose's relationship in general serves to reflect some of the themes Sad Professor alluded to in a post above, and in its climax ultimately looks to somewhat challenge our expectations of what traditional Star Wars heroism has been. There's plenty to be said for a film with the space to show another side of the Star Wars galaxy: in the most basic of terms, casino planet adds depth and colour to the universe. And I for one am not complaining about a touch of animal rights & anti-capitalist messaging being included in a Star Wars film.
But purely in terms of the story's overarching narrative... as I said before, Johnson's decision to end with a callback to the slave kids is very obviously not accidental, and I think that's because it sums up some of the key things the writer/director was trying to articulate in his film.
I know it's cheesy as ****, but to sum it up: those kids are the new hope 0 -
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johnny_ultimate wrote: »I hate to repeat myself, but I feel this is an unfair criticism and underestimates the very key role that whole subplot plays in the movie. Again, I have no problem with complaints about the execution and suggestions it disrupts the pacing, but any suggestion it is without purpose IMO neglects what it's there forLike many Star Wars films, this film is largely about the idea of legacy and heroes. In fact, it goes considerably further than any of the other films in that respect. It very determinedly deconstructs some of the mythologising of the Jedi, for example, and through Luke's story examines a more complex, dare I even say human side of a character who has, in the story's fiction - and arguably in our own cultural sphere - become a one-dimensional legend.
In the context of the Resistance story, there's little question the narrative is all about their rapidly dwindling numbers, and the need for a spark to ignite enthusiasm again. Luke Skywalker, of course, is one way to do that - but IMO the film is smart enough to dive a bit deeper than that. Finn and Rose are more 'everyday' heroes: the latter in particular a technician swept up in the drama, but even with Finn it's noteworthy that he's the most faceless of grunts turned hero. Through their storyline on the casino planet and the epilogue sequence, Johnson is attempting to more directly reflect the other side of the story - away from the legendary heroes, and more the normal disenfranchised, forgotten folk making a decision to kick some ass. It's all about the little guys.
I mean, there are more purposes to the whole subplot - Finn & Rose's relationship in general serves to reflect some of the themes Sad Professor alluded to in a post above, and in its climax ultimately looks to somewhat challenge our expectations of what traditional Star Wars heroism has been. There's plenty to be said for a film with the space to show another side of the Star Wars galaxy: in the most basic of terms, casino planet adds depth and colour to the universe. And I for one am not complaining about a touch of animal rights & anti-capitalist messaging being included in a Star Wars film.
But purely in terms of the story's overarching narrative... as I said before, Johnson's decision to end with a callback to the slave kids is very obviously not accidental, and I think that's because it sums up some of the key things the writer/director was trying to articulate in his film.
I know it's cheesy as ****, but to sum it up: those kids are the new hope
What utter tosh how dare you give the film a fair review.;)
Just joking I really enjoyed this film and Rogue One last year however I hated TFA.
Only six months to Solo A Star Wars Story I think I will be with the haters for that one.:D0 -
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Osmosis Jones wrote: »You don't have to find an excuse for every off-moment in the movie
wasnt an excuse..it was a very direct call back..of which there are many in this film no?0 -
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I said it seconds after the credits rolled. Worst film since phantom menace.
I still think it's better than any of the prequels but doesn't touch the original trilogy or the first two Disney efforts.
It's abysmal but Jesus the phantom menace or the two that came after it were absolute abominations.0 -
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